Scism, Is this family your direct ancestors? Can you connect them with William Vestal and Alice Glover? Peggy Pegleghill@aol.com

These are the Vestals in My File: Descendants of John Vestal 1 John VESTAL .. +Margaretta Mary 2 John VESTAL Jr b: March 16, 1827 in Oh ... +Lucinda HERSHBERGER b: March 26, 1831 in Montgomery, In m: September 02, 1851 in Warren, Il . 3 Ann VESTAL b: August 13, 1852 in Warren, Il ..... +Benjamin Franklin CROSBY m: December 31, 1871 in Warren, Il ... 4 Guy CROSBY ... 4 Effie CROSBY ....... +ANDERSON Descendants of Laura Alice Vestal 1 Laura Alice VESTAL b: June 29, 1856 in Pickaway, Oh d: December 13, 1935 .. +Allen HERSHBERGER b: April 23, 1846 in Warren Or Knox Co Area, Il m: February 05, 1878 d: November 06, 1916 in Knox, Il 2 Mabel HERSHBERGER b: November 08, 1878 in Knox, Il d: 1894 2 Alice HARSHBARGER b: May 06, 1881 in Knox, Il d: January 28, 1974 ... +Wislon H. HENDERSON m: June 15, 1904 in Knox, Il 2 Edgar A. HERSHBERGER b: April 03, 1883 in Knox, Il d: April 05, 1892 in Knox, Il 2 Lula Belle HERSHBERGER b: August 10, 1885 in Knox, Il d: July 17, 1928 ... +Glen ARNOLD m: September 17, 1925 in Knox, Il 2 Royal Allen HERSHBERGER b: March 15, 1888 in Knox, Il d: December 13, 1966 ... +Mildred YOUNG b: July 08, 1891 in Syracuse, Otoe, Nb m: December 28, 1921 in Omaha, Douglas, Nb d: March 24, 1967 in Greeley, Weld, Co . 3 Wayne Lee HERSHBERGER b: December 05, 1920 in Knox, Il ..... +Betty Darlene WOLL b: January 12, 1926 in Macomb, McDonough, Il m: December 23, 1944 in Knox, Il d: October 05, 1980 in Galesburg, Knox, Il . *2nd Wife of Wayne Lee Hershberger: ..... +Ellen Wadhams SAYLOR m: April 05, 1981 . 3 Alice Georgene HERSHBERGER b: March 18, 1922 in Knox, Il ..... +Robert Verne ROBERTS b: August 04, 1922 in Knox, Il m: April 26, 1941 in Kohoka, Clark, Mo . *2nd Husband of Alice Georgene Hershberger: ..... +Clyde Leroy GUENSETH b: March 16, 1922 in Quincy, Adams, Il m: April 21, 1959 in Cambridge, Henry, Il . 3 John Bruce HERSHBERGER b: October 28, 1923 in Knox, Il ..... +Ruth Ola HURLEY b: August 18, 1922 in Eldorado, Union, Ar m: December 08, 1943 in West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Fl . 3 Allen Young HERSHBERGER b: January 26, 1924 in Omaha, Douglas, Nb ..... +Maxine BOLENBAUGH b: March 10, 1923 in Greeley, Weld, Co m: September 21, 1945 in Weld, Co . 3 Robin Ray HERSHBERGER b: February 10, 1925 in Knox, Il ..... +Jeannette Jean PEDIGO b: June 23, 1930 in Knoxville, Knox, Il m: October 23, 1946 in Knox, Il . 3 Allene Patricia HERSHBERGER b: September 06, 1926 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ..... +Russell George PETERSON b: December 06, 1922 in Knox, Il m: December 12, 1948 in Knox, Il . 3 William Terrance HERSHBERGER b: April 27, 1928 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ..... +Luanna Lane BARNFIELD b: November 01, 1939 in Galesburg, Knox, Il m: May 29, 1961 in Warren, Il . 3 James Jay HERSHBERGER b: April 06, 1930 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ..... +Elizabeth A. SCALF b: March 19, 1934 in Kirkwood, Warren, Il m: December 17, 1952 in Streator, Lasalle, Il . 3 Audrey Lou HERSHBERGER b: September 19, 1932 in Knox, Il ..... +C. David RECKMAN . *2nd Husband of Audrey Lou Hershberger: ..... +Charles W. SMITH Jr. b: November 21, 1929 in Knox, Il m: March 26, 1950 in Galesburg, Knox, Il . 3 Evelyn Jane HERSHBERGER b: December 11, 1934 in Knox, Il ..... +Frank William GOULD b: January 12, 1933 in Knox, Il m: June 17, 1950 in Princeton, Bureau, Il 2 Wayne Christian HERSHBERGER b: August 12, 1893 in Knox, Il d: January 05, 1981 in Knox, Il ... +Evelyn Georgene WRIGHT b: July 01, 1901 in Clarenceville, Quebec, Canada m: September 04, 1919 in Knox, Il d: August 04, 1964 in Peoria, Peoria, Il Descendants of William Vestal 1 William VESTAL b: Abt. 1835 .. +Frances GRAHAM b: Abt. 1835 2 Laura Alice VESTAL b: June 29, 1856 in Pickaway, Oh d: December 13, 1935 ... +Allen HERSHBERGER b: April 23, 1846 in Warren Or Knox Co Area, Il m: February 05, 1878 d: November 06, 1916 in Knox, Il . 3 Mabel HERSHBERGER b: November 08, 1878 in Knox, Il d: 1894 . 3 Alice HARSHBARGER b: May 06, 1881 in Knox, Il d: January 28, 1974 ..... +Wislon H. HENDERSON m: June 15, 1904 in Knox, Il . 3 Edgar A. HERSHBERGER b: April 03, 1883 in Knox, Il d: April 05, 1892 in Knox, Il . 3 Lula Belle HERSHBERGER b: August 10, 1885 in Knox, Il d: July 17, 1928 ..... +Glen ARNOLD m: September 17, 1925 in Knox, Il . 3 Royal Allen HERSHBERGER b: March 15, 1888 in Knox, Il d: December 13, 1966 ..... +Mildred YOUNG b: July 08, 1891 in Syracuse, Otoe, Nb m: December 28, 1921 in Omaha, Douglas, Nb d: March 24, 1967 in Greeley, Weld, Co ... 4 Wayne Lee HERSHBERGER b: December 05, 1920 in Knox, Il ....... +Betty Darlene WOLL b: January 12, 1926 in Macomb, McDonough, Il m: December 23, 1944 in Knox, Il d: October 05, 1980 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ... *2nd Wife of Wayne Lee Hershberger: ....... +Ellen Wadhams SAYLOR m: April 05, 1981 ... 4 Alice Georgene HERSHBERGER b: March 18, 1922 in Knox, Il ....... +Robert Verne ROBERTS b: August 04, 1922 in Knox, Il m: April 26, 1941 in Kohoka, Clark, Mo ... *2nd Husband of Alice Georgene Hershberger: ....... +Clyde Leroy GUENSETH b: March 16, 1922 in Quincy, Adams, Il m: April 21, 1959 in Cambridge, Henry, Il ... 4 John Bruce HERSHBERGER b: October 28, 1923 in Knox, Il ....... +Ruth Ola HURLEY b: August 18, 1922 in Eldorado, Union, Ar m: December 08, 1943 in West Palm Beach, Palm Beach, Fl ... 4 Allen Young HERSHBERGER b: January 26, 1924 in Omaha, Douglas, Nb ....... +Maxine BOLENBAUGH b: March 10, 1923 in Greeley, Weld, Co m: September 21, 1945 in Weld, Co ... 4 Robin Ray HERSHBERGER b: February 10, 1925 in Knox, Il ....... +Jeannette Jean PEDIGO b: June 23, 1930 in Knoxville, Knox, Il m: October 23, 1946 in Knox, Il ... 4 Allene Patricia HERSHBERGER b: September 06, 1926 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ....... +Russell George PETERSON b: December 06, 1922 in Knox, Il m: December 12, 1948 in Knox, Il ... 4 William Terrance HERSHBERGER b: April 27, 1928 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ....... +Luanna Lane BARNFIELD b: November 01, 1939 in Galesburg, Knox, Il m: May 29, 1961 in Warren, Il ... 4 James Jay HERSHBERGER b: April 06, 1930 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ....... +Elizabeth A. SCALF b: March 19, 1934 in Kirkwood, Warren, Il m: December 17, 1952 in Streator, Lasalle, Il ... 4 Audrey Lou HERSHBERGER b: September 19, 1932 in Knox, Il ....... +C. David RECKMAN ... *2nd Husband of Audrey Lou Hershberger: ....... +Charles W. SMITH Jr. b: November 21, 1929 in Knox, Il m: March 26, 1950 in Galesburg, Knox, Il ... 4 Evelyn Jane HERSHBERGER b: December 11, 1934 in Knox, Il ....... +Frank William GOULD b: January 12, 1933 in Knox, Il m: June 17, 1950 in Princeton, Bureau, Il . 3 Wayne Christian HERSHBERGER b: August 12, 1893 in Knox, Il d: January 05, 1981 in Knox, Il ..... +Evelyn Georgene WRIGHT b: July 01, 1901 in Clarenceville, Quebec, Canada m: September 04, 1919 in Knox, Il d: August 04, 1964 in Peoria, Peoria, Il

Hello Tony James Vestal and probable first wife Mary Jay had son William Vestal born abt1760 he married his first cousin Sarah Vestal daughter of David Vestal and Sarah( Chamness )Vestal.williams wife 's middle name I believe was Chamness also the same as her mothers maiden name. I do not know all the children of this union of William and Sarah Vestal .I only know my ancestor Mary (Polly) Vestal married William Caviness Patricia Perkins at caviness@abts.net v ---------- > From: HELMSTMK@aol.com > To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VESTAL-L] William Vestal > Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 2:05 PM > > Andy > I an not a decendant of William but my wife is a Vestal that comes down a > different line. My interest in William is a part of the larger picture. I am > working on a database of the entire Vestal family from William and Alice > Glover on down. I believe there are only three real choices for the parents of > your William.However,I could be wrong. > > Lines that decend from William Vestal and Elizabeth Mercer > > 1.William Vestal (1723) had no male heirs. > > 2.John Vestal/Ann Potts had 3 sons,their lines are unknown to me at this time > so they are one possibility. > > 3.Thomas Vestal/Elizabeth Davis There lines are to well documented.I just do > not believe there is anywhere to fit William in that line. > > 4.James Vestal Sr./ Jay,Allen,Casady While William (1792) is a possibility,I > do not believe that he is the right William because Williams father was a > William (1759) > and you would not think that a William Sr. would have a William for a father. > Thomas Vestal (1766) /Ann Martin married Oct. 4,1791 in Surry Co,NC is a > likely > choice.The 2nd possibility.The time frame is right,his decendants are unknown > and William Sr. oldest son was named Thomas (from the info that I have) The > rest of James Vestal Sr. decendants are well documented and the birth dates > and marrage dates do not leave very much room to add anyone in the 1802 time > frame. > > 5.David Anthony Vestal/Sarah Chamness This line is also very well > documented,except for Nathan Vestal (1763 to 1834) spouse unknown > He is the third likely choice.All of Davids other children have wifes and > Children accounted for. > This is all the lines that decend from William Vestal and Elizabeth Mercer > and accounts for all of his male heirs.

Andy I an not a decendant of William but my wife is a Vestal that comes down a different line. My interest in William is a part of the larger picture. I am working on a database of the entire Vestal family from William and Alice Glover on down. I believe there are only three real choices for the parents of your William.However,I could be wrong. Lines that decend from William Vestal and Elizabeth Mercer 1.William Vestal (1723) had no male heirs. 2.John Vestal/Ann Potts had 3 sons,their lines are unknown to me at this time so they are one possibility. 3.Thomas Vestal/Elizabeth Davis There lines are to well documented.I just do not believe there is anywhere to fit William in that line. 4.James Vestal Sr./ Jay,Allen,Casady While William (1792) is a possibility,I do not believe that he is the right William because Williams father was a William (1759) and you would not think that a William Sr. would have a William for a father. Thomas Vestal (1766) /Ann Martin married Oct. 4,1791 in Surry Co,NC is a likely choice.The 2nd possibility.The time frame is right,his decendants are unknown and William Sr. oldest son was named Thomas (from the info that I have) The rest of James Vestal Sr. decendants are well documented and the birth dates and marrage dates do not leave very much room to add anyone in the 1802 time frame. 5.David Anthony Vestal/Sarah Chamness This line is also very well documented,except for Nathan Vestal (1763 to 1834) spouse unknown He is the third likely choice.All of Davids other children have wifes and Children accounted for. This is all the lines that decend from William Vestal and Elizabeth Mercer and accounts for all of his male heirs.

>Have had the second hard disk crash in less than a year. Had most of my >new website ready for uploading, the one with the source info I found in >Winchester, (Frederick Co), Berkeley and Jefferson counties. So, will go >shopping this weekend and start over on the website. The site is located >at >http://www.dayton.net/~gbumgarner/vestal Hi Ginny, Sorry to hear about your drive... I've had them crash and loss months of work before. Even now I don't back-up like I should. If you have a cd-rom drive in your computer, I'll make a cd for you with all of your data on it if you want me to. I'll do it for free if you will just pay the postage. rasberry@ezol.com "Lost grand-son of Mytle Vestle of Yakin County, NC"

Hello I think that you are referring to William Vestal III the dates of birth for William Vestal and Sarah Chamness Vestal are correct I do not have all their children, but my ancestor was their child also her name was Mary Vestal (Polly) born abt 1785.I think that you are trying to put all of the children of two generations of William Vestal on one William . Patricia Perkins at caviness@abts.net ---------- > From: HELMSTMK@aol.com > To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VESTAL-L] William Vestal > Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 11:45 PM > > William Vestal b.abt.1799/1802 North Carolina > wife # 1 unknown > wife # 2 Rachel Dougan > wife # 3 Rebecca Benge > While surfing Vestal websites I came across one owned by Tim Gore > ( http:/members.aol.com/fugginsg/ancst.htm ) > > He has the parents of William Vestal listed as William Vestal (1759) and Sarah > Chamness Vestal (1766). I have their son William as being born in1792.This may > or may not be the year of his birth. Even being born in 1792 he would have > been able to father all of the children that are thought to belong to > William.His last child was Susan Vestal b.1851. William would have been about > 60/61 years old.Old but not to old to father children. I have E-mailed Tim and > asked him where he found the above information but do not have an answer yet. > Anyway,I thought I pass it by the group and see if anyone had any thoughts on > this. If he has proof to back it up it would fill in a big piece of the Vestal > family tree. > > Tony

Tony, I am a desendant of William Vestal b. 1802. I am almost positive that the Wm from 1792 is not the one. He did have three wives and lived to 1894 and died in Texas. I have several cousin , who are also searching for Wm's parents. If you are also a descendant, please write and tell me how. Thanks Andy McCloskey

Have had the second hard disk crash in less than a year. Had most of my new website ready for uploading, the one with the source info I found in Winchester, (Frederick Co), Berkeley and Jefferson counties. So, will go shopping this weekend and start over on the website. The site is located at http://www.dayton.net/~gbumgarner/vestal The old site is still up, but not the new information. Guess I'll get more HTML experience this weekend! Will let everyone know when the new stuff is uploaded. .... ginny

I am not a VESTAL and am only indirectly researching them. I subscribed to VESTAL-L with the hope of finding a VESTAL with a EMREY-LLOYD-STEWART connection. They were associated in 1700/1800's in PA, VA, SC. A family heritage book for JOHN and PRUDENCE EMREY LOYD gives some early information about VESTAL families in PA, VA, NC that I would like to share with you: WILLIAM VESTAL I married ALCE (ALICE ?). He was an iron-maker and died in 1709. Maiden name for Alce may have been MENDENHALL. A Benjamin MENDENHALL of Concord Township, PA deeded to Alce in 1709 (the year William died) land which he had originally deeded to William. William and Alce raised their children as Quakers but Alce joined "7th Day Baptists" in 1697. WILLIAM VESTAL II (son of WILLIAM I and ALCE) died in 1745 in VA. He married ELIZABETH ___?___. They were Quakers. They lived in Bradford and Birmingham Townships, Chester Co, PA before moving to VA between 1729-1734. They were associated with iron-making and blacksmithing families. In 1742 William formed a company and built a "bloomery" on his land for processing iron ore into iron bars. He established a ferry from his land across the Shenandoah River and this led to the gap in the Blue Ridge Mtns. above his ferry to be named Vestal Gap (now Key's Gap). That land was in Orange Co, VA which in 1743 became Frederick Co., and in 1757 became Berkeley Co. It is now in Jefferson Co, W. VA. Elizabeth had a certificate of membership with the Concord Monthly Meeting (PA), transferred to Hopewell Monthly Meeting in Orange/Frederick Co., VA, transferred to Cane Creek Monthly Meeting in Orange/Alamance Co., NC. SONS OF WILLIAM II and ELIZABETH: 1. WILLIAM VESTAL III 2. JOHN VESTAL married ANN POTTS of Loudoun Co, VA. John was an iron-maker. He and his father WM II were closely associated with the Potts family, a blacksmithing/iron-making family. NOW---For that VESTAL-EMREY-LLOYD-STEWART connection: On Aug. 11, 1750, Elizabeth Vestal of Frederick Co., VA gave power of attorney to "my trusty friend STEPHEN EMORY". Witness: Sam'l Baldwin, John Hardin, Wm. Vestal, John Vestal. On Aug. 26, 1750, Wm. Vestal III (son/Eliz.) sold to John Hardin and George Johnson a 285-ac tract that had been granted to his father, Wm. Vestal II, on Oct. 3, 1734. Witness: Hy West, G. Washington (THE GEORGE WASHINGTON!), Sam'l Walker, Robert Worthington, STEPHEN EMMERY, William Davis. **STEPHEN EMREY was a literate, prosperous blacksmith. He was an early settler in Loudoun Co., VA. living there 1758-1800. Can anyone connect with Stephen Emrey? Do you know if Stephen is related to PRUDENCE EMREY LOYD or GEORGE EMREY?

William Vestal b.abt.1799/1802 North Carolina wife # 1 unknown wife # 2 Rachel Dougan wife # 3 Rebecca Benge While surfing Vestal websites I came across one owned by Tim Gore ( http:/members.aol.com/fugginsg/ancst.htm ) He has the parents of William Vestal listed as William Vestal (1759) and Sarah Chamness Vestal (1766). I have their son William as being born in1792.This may or may not be the year of his birth. Even being born in 1792 he would have been able to father all of the children that are thought to belong to William.His last child was Susan Vestal b.1851. William would have been about 60/61 years old.Old but not to old to father children. I have E-mailed Tim and asked him where he found the above information but do not have an answer yet. Anyway,I thought I pass it by the group and see if anyone had any thoughts on this. If he has proof to back it up it would fill in a big piece of the Vestal family tree. Tony

Sorry to hear about your drive going down, have you considered a tape drive as a back-up They are slow but cheap. Jeff

Hi all, I figured that it was about time that I posted my connection to the VESTAL family for the benefit of all on the list who dont know (and perhaps, for some who do). If you have any questions or would like to have information about living family, please email. :) All is documented. William Vestal m Elizabeth Mercer Woodward, daughter of Thomas Mercer and Mary Greenaway, widow of Joseph Woodward. Thomas Vestal m Elizabeth Davis, daughter of Charles Davis and Hannah Matson William Vestal m Mary Wheeler, dau of John Wheeler of Maryland and Sarah Haworth, daughter of Stephanas Haworth and Rachel Beeson. Children of Willam and Mary Wheeler Vestal: 1. Thomas Vestal m Mary Brower **2. John Vestal, Sr 3. William Vestal m Elizabeth Newby 4. David Vestal m Elizabeth Hodgin 5. Soloman Vestal m Esther Hodgin 6. Mary Vestal m Joab Hodgin 7. Alfred Vestal m Winnifred Staley 8. Zimri Vestal m Mary Brownfield. I would like further information on the descendanices of children 3 thru 8, if anyone has, please. **#2. John Vestal, Sr. b 30 Sept 1793 Chatham, NC d. 26 Aug 1874 Bedford, Indiana b Crown Hill, Indiana ---married 1st, 20 March 1816 Orange, NC, Elizabeth Fogelman b 4 April 1797 d 13 Jan 1860. They had one child, Simpson F. Vestal b 8 June 1860. John and Elizabeth were divorced. John wanted to go west and Elizabeth refused to leave 'civilization'. She remarried John Johnson in NC and had further family. ---married 2nd, 22 Nov 1821 Lawrence, Indiana, Elizabeth (Betsy) Crooke Hamm. Betsy b 30 April 1794 Madison, KY d. 18 Sept 1888 Bedford, Indiana, b Green Hill Cem, Bedford, Indiana, daughter of John Crooke and Ann Doggett Reeves. (Betsy was first married to Joel Hamm who died and left her with 2 young children, Alfred Hamm b 27 June 1812 d 18 Jan 1904, b Green Hill Cem, Indiana m 25 Dec 1838 Indiana Sarah A. Knight. Their child was Mary Amelia Hamm. The 2nd child of Joel and Betsy Crooke Hamm was Sally Ann Hamm m Silas Whitted.) Children of John Vestal and Betsy Crooke Hamm: 1. Paris Tillinghast Vestal b 2 March 1821 Bedford, Indiana d 21 March 1871 Bedford Indiana b Green Hill m 26 July 1842 Lawrence, Indiana Mary Emily D. Blackwell. (Further info available.) 2. Henrietta Vestal married Greenbury Owens 3. Virgil Vestal b 24 July 1824 Indiana married 7 Sept 1848 Maria Louisa Carlton, dau of Robert M and Lavinia Barlow Carlton. They had one child, Felicia Carlton Vestal (m William Lane) before his was killed in 1850. (Maria Carlton Vestal m 2nd James L. Houston. I have further info on this line.) 4. Caroline Vestal b 8 March 1826 Indiana 5. Felicia Vestal b 4 Jan 1828 Indiana 6. Mary Vestal b 16 Nov 1829 Indiana **7. John Vestal, Jr 8. William Vestal b 9 June 1833 9. Jared Vestal b 10 Sept 1834 10. Elizabeth Crooke Vestal m Noyes Ezekial Strout. (I have further info on this line) I would like further info on descendancies of #s 2,4,5,6,8, and 9, if anyone has please. **#7 John Vestal, Jr. b 9 Jan 1832 Bedford, Indiana d 13 Nov 1920 Indianapolis, Indiana buried Crown Hill, Indiana. married 1st, Eliza Ellen Baker b 2 March 1838 Vincennes, Indiana d. 25 Sept 1869 Bedford, Indiana, daughter of John Baker and Sarah Dillard (Delard?). Children of John and Ellen Baker Vestal: a. Fredrick Lawrence Vestal b 17 Jan 1861 Vincennes, Indiana d 22 June 1863, Vincennes, Indiana. ** b. Anna Richards Vestal c. Elinor Howard Vestal b 7 Aug 1865 Orleans, Indiana m Walter Parks Hanna d. Josephine Vestal b 19 Oct 1867 Orleans, Indiana d Nov 1942 Indianapolis, Indiana. "Aunt Josy" never married. **b. Anna Richards Vestal b 23 Sept 1862 Vincennes Indiana d 24 April 1917 Washington, DC., b Congressional Cemetery, Washington, DC. m John Henry von Herrmann b 28 Feb 1861 New York, New York d. 26 Jan 1922 Washington, DC, b Congressional Cemetery, Washington, DC, son of Charles John von Herrmann and Evaline Wappanhans, both born in Berlin, Brandenburg, Prussia. (After Anna Richards Vestal von Herrmann's death, John Henry m Rita Edwinetta Shroeder. John and Rita had no children.) Children of Anna Richards Vestal and John Henry von Herrmann: **a. Margaret Mortland von Herrmann b. Carl John von Herrmann b 23 Jan 1864 Washington, DC d 16 Nov 1897 Washington, DC. of diptheria, b Congressional Cemetery, Washington, DC. **a. Margaret Mortland von Herrmann b 20 June 1891 Washington, DC d 8 April 1963 Los Angeles, CA b Congressional Cemetery, Washinton, DC married 14 May 1914 Alexandria, VA John A. Ellis (birth name Lemuel Altemus Ellis) b 30 Oct 1885 Washington, DC d 11 Oct 1952 Los Angeles, CA., son of Dornin Ellis and Alice Lunn Altemus. These are my grandparents--further information available. Back to John Vestal, Jr. After the death of Eliza Ellen Baker, John married 8 Dec 1875 Indianapolis, Indiana, Eliza Jane Peay b 6 April 1843, New Albany, Indiana d 13 Aug 1927 Indianapolis, Indiana, daughter of Andrew Peay and Elizabeth Cobb. They had two children: a. John Wilfrid Vestal - descendancy available b. Allan Peay Vestal - descendancy available. This is Eunice Vestal's line. Hope this helps fill in a little more of the Vestal family for everyone. :) Peggy Hill Pegleghill@aol.com

I am looking for information on the family of a Miss Vestal (of Chatham Co, NC) who married George Fox prior to 1800. They had 7 children: George, Katy, Sarah, Margaret, John, Nancy, and Zimri. George and family resided in Chatham Co. in 1800 and in Randolph County in 1810. Any idea who this Miss Vestal might be? Thanks -- Donna Regen <lregen@onramp.net>

Harice, Most of the earlier Vestal information came from the Quaker's Meetings, and are listed in the Quaker books. Most genealogy libraries will have these books. Just ask the librarian. Some word of caution, though, I have heard that some of that could have been incorrectly translated. For a more correct info, you would have to view the actual Quaker records. Where these are located, I don't know. Have any of these Quaker records been put on a webpage now? There were two pamplets or booklets which others have written, but I don't have that info right now. One of these was retyped by one of our members, and it should be in our archives. At the beginning of this list in Jan. 1997, we did list the sources (or we tried). Other info may have come from bibles, or family knowledge. If it is family knowledge, you can take this, and try to find additional sources, like the deeds, probate, etc. Jeff, I'm here, and I'm not. It's so hard to even catch up at this point. My Mom will still need help. My aunt and uncle had 5 ft. of water in their home, and really feel for them. We saw them Sunday, and they look so tired. My in laws have a ranch in San Felipe, and the road was totally washed out. There is about a 12 ft. gape, and about that deep. We noticed that fence posts were down in several locations, especially where the road washed out. My brother video taped of all this, and the whole area looked like a large lake!!!!! I have never seen anything like that in all of my life! Harice, has sent her husband's line, we sure would like to see some of your newer folks lines, too! Or, a repost of some of our older members, too!!! Maybe you can discuss a problem we are having in finding proof of some of our older ancestors???? Or perhaps we may have some new members in locations which some of these records may be located???? And can help us out? Take care, >From a tired Pat! Listowner Harice Seeds, HariceBob@aol.com, 10/26/98 2:27 PM wrote : >Hi, Pat! > >Thank you for your quick response to my inquiry. I appreciate the >information, and we (my husband Bob, the Vestal member, and I, the more >active >genealogist) have followed virtually all the suggestions you give. I >appaarently didn't ask my question clearly. What concerns me is the lists >that sometimes appear on VESTAL-L. They often list Vestals or descendants >that we've never heard of. While we appreciate all the information we can >get, >we wonder where the information came from. Particularly the 16th, 17th, and >18th centuries have differing family members in different lists. > >I was concerned about asking those who sent in lists about their sources. I >don't want to appear critical or too doubting, but research certainly is an >important part of genealogy. That is why I asked about protocol. > snipped

Thomas Vestal b.September 8,1727 Chester Co.,Penn. d. June 12,1813 Chatham Co.,North Carolina Married Mary Unk. December 1,1751 Frederick Co.,Virginia Married 2nd Elizabeth Davis (Davies) September 7,1754 Chatham Co.,NC b.December 12,1737 Newton,Chester Co.,Penn. d.July 21,1823 Chatham,NC son of Thomas & Elizabeth William Vestal b.November 29,1759 Orange Co.,NC d.October 13,1828 Chatham Co.,NC Married Mary Wheeler February 10,1791 Chatham Co.,NC b. August 1,1771 Orange Co.,NC d. October 19,1828 Chatham Co.,NC (The above is found in Quaker records) son of William & Mary Thomas Vestal b. November 18,1791 Chatham Co.,NC d. Unk. Married Mary Brower November 9,1812 Randolf Co.,NC (North Carolina Marriages to 1825) I do not follow how William Vestal (1792-1863 ) who married Sarah Moore could be the son of Thomas Vestal and Mary Brower if William was born in 1792 and Thomas was born on November 18,1791. It is a possibility that Samuel Vestal (1817-1891) could be a son of Thomas & Mary.The birthdays would work for that. The sons that I have listed for Thomas Vestal & Mary Brower are Oliver Vestal (b.1821),Riley Vestal (b.1821),and Thomas Vestal (b.1830). There is a 9 year gap (from the date that they married to the first child that I have listed) that is missing that could hold unknown children. Tony

Thank you, Tony, for Miss Brower's first name and it's source. We also were unaware of the Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy. I must admit that I am surprised at its completeness, since the Quaker records we searched in Indiana (where Bob's immediate ancestors lived) referred to members only as "Sister _____" or "Brother _____." We didn't see Bob's 19th and 20th century ancestors on your list. If you would them, plus siblings, we'll be glad to help your list top 5,000. Thanks again--and for your list which we've printed out. Harice

Thanks for the additional Vestals--and the source! Harice & Bob Seeds

The Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy (by William Wade Hinshaw ) is found on Ancestry.com. All 6 volumes are included." It references approximately 445,000 individuals with Quaker ancestry in New Jersey,New York,the Carolinas, Ohio,Pennsylvania,Tennessee,and Virginia; and covers the years 1750-1930". It contains around 200 to 300 references to Vestals.

Thomas Vestal married Mary Brower. November 9,1812 Randolf County,North Carolina Ancestry.com Marriages--North Carolina to 1825. Tony

Harice Seeds, HariceBob@aol.com, 10/23/98 2:01 PM wrote : >Is there a regular protocol for asking for or giving sources of information, >particularly the early family members? Harice > > Hi Harice and others! It is always wise to list your source of where you obtained the information, for example, like a birth, death, marriage certificate, census records, or info from any books, or deeds or probate records. This way, you will know, hopefully, that this info should be correct, etc. Especially, if you decide to join DAR, or another type of assoc. You will need all this proof to join. If this is for yourself, instead of having piles or stacks of papers, put all this info into a lg. 3 ring binder, with top loading (acid free) clear sleeves. Then slide your certificates, copies of probate, deed records behind the family group sheet of your ancestor. Or put in tabs of each ancestral surname line, and put papers/copies in that ancestor(s). If you have lots and lots of info, then start a separate file (legal usually) folders, and put in papers there. Copies of the original census record, passenger lists, etc. Make a separate file for each direct ancestor couple. But still do your 3 ring binder. This you can take with you the genealogy library, so you will have this handy when you need to look something up, and not duplicate yours or others research. A good idea, when coping and sending info to others, put your name and address on those copies, so when it is passed on to another researcher/relative, they will know where that info came from. Harice, who are your Vestal ancestors? Pat Bagwell Listowner