unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: VESTAL-D-request@rootsweb.com <VESTAL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: VESTAL-D@rootsweb.com <VESTAL-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: VESTAL-D Digest V99 #15

Hi cousin-Your cousin Harold Paul RAYNER, b. 16 Jan, 1945, Phoenix, AZ is gr grandson to Martha(Mattie) Frances VESTAL, b.ca. 1873,(we need her birthdate)Shasta Co., CA. Do you know if she too was born in Pleasant Grove, or was it Pittville? We know she d. 29 Dec, 1930, Sanger, Fresno Co., CA Mattie m. John(Jack)Samuel SYKES and they had Geneva(Nieva)Iola SYKES who m. Frank Edward RAYNER SR and they had Frank Edward RAYNER Jr, who is 73, and lives in Big Bend, Shasta Co,CA, on part of his original homestead there, and he is Harold's dad. Harold and I live in rural MT and have a small ranch and raise beef cows and hay and our own vegetables. I have a photocopy of THE VESTALS OF FALL RIVER VALLEY by Frances A. Gassaway, from Shasta Co. Library, and some other copies of the lineage and story of VESTAL's. The data enables us to go back on my husband's direct line back to Eng, with some holes in the lineages. I wondered if you had found anymore data out on the trip William A. VESTAL made on the covered wagon train in 9 Oct, 1851, and the story of the rest of the family coming in 1852 in oxen train to Yuba City CA. We are most interested in their trek west on the wagon train, and the oxen train..... Great hearing from you, and what wonderful news about descendants still farming in Pleasant Grove. Happy Trails, J Also, visit my personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3718/ -----Original Message----- From: Paul & Marianne Kepler <pmkepler@jps.net> To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com <VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 4:36 PM Subject: [VESTAL-L] Wm A Vestal >Hi Crystalwoman! We're Cousins! >Your Vestals came to Sutter County, California, not Yuba County, in a >farming community called Plesant Grove. Our family still farms our ranch >there. I am descended from William's sister, Amy, who married John Mahon >Algeo. And we are in very close contact with some of Wm's sister's Mary's, >descendants, the James family. The James' still farm in Plesant Grove also. > >Do you know about the family history "The Algeo-Vestal Story, A Pioneer >Herritage" written by Oba Algeo? > >Let me know what information you may be looking for, and I will be glad to >see if I can help. Marianne >........................................................................... .>..... >Paul and Marianne Kepler >15913 Mountain View Dr. >Nevada City, CA 95959 > >530-265-3666 > > >==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== >Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

Thanks to a very nice lady who did a lookup i think i found my Vestal Family if you have a connection to this family please let me know. Evelyn 1860 Yadkin Census - Jonesville 672 - Vestal, Alexander 35 Delany A. 33 Sally A. 15 Michael 13 Sanford 11 Lucinda 8 Cymantha C. 4 Hillery 1 Vestal, Martha 50 1870 Yadkin County - Knobs Twp. # 229 - Vestal, Alexander 49 Lany 41 Miller 22 Sarah 18 Catherine 17 Hillery 15 Ira 13 John 10 Mandy 7 Wilburn 5 Tandy V 3 Patsy 73 Surry Co. Marriages Vestal, Alexander 0 Delanah Gross 5 April 1844; James Callaway, bondsman. Yadkin County Marraiges: Brooks, C. L. - E. C. Vestal (Sandy & Landy Vestal) - 20 Aug 1871 1880 Yadkin CO. Census - Knobs Twp. # 158 Vestal, Alexander 56 Delaney 52 Ira W. 18 John 16 Miles 14 Tandy 13 Finney, Asbury 13 gs Fall Creek Baptist Church; Vestal, Alexander - 6-10-1824 - 7-18-1898 Delany 5-18-1828 - 12-4-1898

Hi Crystalwoman! We're Cousins! Your Vestals came to Sutter County, California, not Yuba County, in a farming community called Plesant Grove. Our family still farms our ranch there. I am descended from William's sister, Amy, who married John Mahon Algeo. And we are in very close contact with some of Wm's sister's Mary's, descendants, the James family. The James' still farm in Plesant Grove also. Do you know about the family history "The Algeo-Vestal Story, A Pioneer Herritage" written by Oba Algeo? Let me know what information you may be looking for, and I will be glad to see if I can help. Marianne ............................................................................ ..... Paul and Marianne Kepler 15913 Mountain View Dr. Nevada City, CA 95959 530-265-3666

Hi-I cannot find any reference to your Catherine VESTAL, but have you also tried asking on the Quaker list @rootsweb.com as they were Quakers when back in the NC time and many records were kept on them. Happy Trails, J Also, visit my personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3718/ -----Original Message----- From: Kyle & Evelyn Long <belle@mwec.com> To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com <VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 12:03 PM Subject: [VESTAL-L] Vestal >here is the vestal line I am looking for I am trying to pin down who >catherines parents were > >Catherine VESTAL > > BORN: 20 SEP 1855, North Carolina maybe Surry > DIED: 30 MAY 1931, Vernon Wilbarger County, Texas > BURIED: , > MARRIED: Columbus LaFayette BROOKS, ABT. 1872, North Carolina > CHILDREN: > 1.Axie Ann BROOKS > 2.Martha C. BROOKS > 3.Edward BROOKS > 4.Henry Newell BROOKS > 5.Nancy Delaney BROOKS > 6.Ida Lee BROOKS > 7.? BROOKS > 8.Lawrence Alexander BROOKS > > >==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== >Please post your Vestal lines! That new member just might be the link you're looking for! >

here is the vestal line I am looking for I am trying to pin down who catherines parents were Catherine VESTAL BORN: 20 SEP 1855, North Carolina maybe Surry DIED: 30 MAY 1931, Vernon Wilbarger County, Texas BURIED: , MARRIED: Columbus LaFayette BROOKS, ABT. 1872, North Carolina CHILDREN: 1.Axie Ann BROOKS 2.Martha C. BROOKS 3.Edward BROOKS 4.Henry Newell BROOKS 5.Nancy Delaney BROOKS 6.Ida Lee BROOKS 7.? BROOKS 8.Lawrence Alexander BROOKS

My husband's g grandmother was Martha Frances VESTAL, b.ca.1873(need date) in Pittville, Shasta Co., CA. She was dtr of William A. VESTAL, b. 25 Nov 1922, Surry Co., NC and he started for St. Louis MO, just 5 days after his marriage and joined a covered wagon train headed for CA 9 Oct, 1851, and the rest of family followed in 1852 in oxen train to Yuba Co., CA. They were from a long line of Quakers going back to PA, before coming over from Eng in mid-1600's. Thank you, Happy Trails, J Also, visit my personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy:(still working here, so only surnames listed) http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/3718/ -----Original Message----- From: Pat Bagwell <icezena@texas.net> To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com <VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 9:03 AM Subject: [VESTAL-L] Fwd: Re: Vestal >Hi everybody, > >Kyle/Evelyn, > >What are the birth, death, marriage dates and locations of your >ancestors. And their children, this would help our members to more >identify your ancestors. > >By the way, the VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com is only to be used for >subscribing and unsubscribing. There are no people there to read a >message, only computers, and they only understand the words, subscribe >and unsubscribe <grin> Thank you. > >Happy hunting, > >Pat Bagwell, Icezena@texas.net >Vestal Listowner > >---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- >Date: 2/10/99 9:17 AM >Received: 2/10/99 5:11 PM >From: Kyle & Evelyn Long, belle@mwec.com >To: KB/MB, jumbo@oneimage.com >CC: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com, VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com > >I only have one Vestal In Surry NC Catherine Vestal Married Columbus >Brooks and i have not been very successful with her , I am CC ing this >to the Vestal Mailing list maybe someone on it can help you > >KB/MB wrote: >> >> Hello. I am researching Mary Wheeler Vestal and William Vestal. Any >> information on ANY Vestal would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Michal > > > >----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- > >Pat Bagwell >Icezena@texas.net > >Listowner for Bagwell, Boswell, Jay, & Vestal > > > > > > > >==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== >Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

woops i should know the correct addy i own 2 mailing list of my own at rootsweb . *smile* Evelyn Pat Bagwell wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Kyle/Evelyn, > > What are the birth, death, marriage dates and locations of your > ancestors. And their children, this would help our members to more > identify your ancestors. > > By the way, the VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com is only to be used for > subscribing and unsubscribing. There are no people there to read a > message, only computers, and they only understand the words, subscribe > and unsubscribe <grin> Thank you. > > Happy hunting, > > Pat Bagwell, Icezena@texas.net > Vestal Listowner > > ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > Date: 2/10/99 9:17 AM > Received: 2/10/99 5:11 PM > From: Kyle & Evelyn Long, belle@mwec.com > To: KB/MB, jumbo@oneimage.com > CC: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com, VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com > > I only have one Vestal In Surry NC Catherine Vestal Married Columbus > Brooks and i have not been very successful with her , I am CC ing this > to the Vestal Mailing list maybe someone on it can help you > > KB/MB wrote: > > > > Hello. I am researching Mary Wheeler Vestal and William Vestal. Any > > information on ANY Vestal would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Michal > > ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- > > Pat Bagwell > Icezena@texas.net > > Listowner for Bagwell, Boswell, Jay, & Vestal > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/

Hi everybody, Kyle/Evelyn, What are the birth, death, marriage dates and locations of your ancestors. And their children, this would help our members to more identify your ancestors. By the way, the VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com is only to be used for subscribing and unsubscribing. There are no people there to read a message, only computers, and they only understand the words, subscribe and unsubscribe <grin> Thank you. Happy hunting, Pat Bagwell, Icezena@texas.net Vestal Listowner ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 2/10/99 9:17 AM Received: 2/10/99 5:11 PM From: Kyle & Evelyn Long, belle@mwec.com To: KB/MB, jumbo@oneimage.com CC: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com, VESTAL-L-request@rootsweb.com I only have one Vestal In Surry NC Catherine Vestal Married Columbus Brooks and i have not been very successful with her , I am CC ing this to the Vestal Mailing list maybe someone on it can help you KB/MB wrote: > > Hello. I am researching Mary Wheeler Vestal and William Vestal. Any > information on ANY Vestal would be greatly appreciated. > > Michal ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- Pat Bagwell Icezena@texas.net Listowner for Bagwell, Boswell, Jay, & Vestal

Hi everybody! I thought the below info about the Ellis Island records on line project is an important one for us researchers! Pat Bagwell Listowner for Bagwell, Boswell, Jay, Vestal ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 2/4/99 10:25 PM Received: 2/5/99 7:46 AM From: Carolyn R. Green, crgreen@risecom.net To: Adair List, ADAIR@rootsweb.com ARCHIVE PUTS HUDDLED MASSES ON-LINE - Volunteers scanning Ellis Island Records. (SF Examiner 2/2/99) Climbing the family tree will take a lot less clawing as soon as a nonprofit foundation finishes a more than $15 million project to post Ellis Island immigration records on the internet. By helping people to access information instantly that previously was buried in a bureaucratic quagmire, the project will revolutionize genealogicial research for many of the more than 113 million Americans who already actively pursue their family histories. Officials at the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation in NY, the same organization that gave Lady Liberty a face lift in 1986 without any public funding, estimate that more than 40% of Americans can trace their European ancestry back to Ellis Island. "This is going to be a reference point", said Vern Deubler, Pres. of the Calif. Genealogical Society, which was based in San Francisco for a century before moving to Oakland this year. "It's going to provide people with very important leads". By the end of next year, the foundation hopes, people will be able to enter any information they know about a progenitor and the program will search more than 20 million records for a match. The software will even be able to tolerate misspellings. If a match is found, the researcher can choose to print out a photo of the ship and a copy of the original manifesto that marked the immigrant's arrival. At Fisherman's Wharf on Monday, Stephen Briganti, Chairman of the foundation, said the new database would especially help Bay Area researchers. He said the Bay Area remains one of the major hubs for Eliis Island immigrants and their descendants. Tens of thousands of immigrants came here after arriving through the port, first to fuel the Industrial revolution and later to farm wine grapes. He said first generation travelers from the main Ellis Island years - 1892 to 1924 - still live in the area. Briganti added that Californians' interest in Ellis Island immigration research, based on requests for the foundation's resources, is outstripped only by New yorkers'. The database - which organizers say could be ready by the end of 2000 - will catalog records of almost 20 million immigrants who flooded the tiny NY Harbor island. Until now, those documents have been stored at the National Archives and Immigration and Naturalization Service in the clunky microfilm format. The first phase of the project was to collect and digitize records and install computers at the museum. Now, Briganti said, putting the information on the Internet has become a top goal as well. "We're pretty confident this is going to work," Briganti said. "It's not perfect, but it's light years ahead of going to the Archives." A demonstration of the system showed that a reseacher can enter information in any or all of 11 fields, which ask for personal information such as the subject's name and country of birth, and immigration, like the subject's port of entry. Foundation spokeswoman Peg Zitko said the project got off the ground when a nationwide network of Mormon volunteers agreed to digitize the microfilm information for free. Thousands of volunteers have logged more than 2 million hours; they've entered 3/5's of the data so far. A spokesman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City said the project was important to the church's mission. "We've always been involved in genealogy," said Dan Rascon, "because linking to our family helps us understand who we are and what we may become." Information on the project may be found at www.ellisisland.org on the internet. (And I just want you all to know that I typed this, not scanned, so I hope I get some appreciation out there!!!!!!!! Best, and good night! Terry in Calif.) PS, Please feel free to pass this along to other genealogy lists. ==== LITHUANIA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the Rootsweb Archives? http://www.rootsweb.com ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

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Hi David, thank you for your post and the information. I do not have the descendancy from William Vestal and Elizabeth Newby. Can you send please? Thanks, Peggy Pegleghill@aol.com

Jeff: I'm afraid I have no info on any Newbys in Colorado and none which appears to connect with your data. Nearly all of my Newby info is for North Carolina from abt. 1660 to about 1880. Happy to share what I have, but I doubt it would be useful unless you find a North Carolina connection. Best, David G. White Burlington, VT whiteknight@adelphia.net ScismGenie@aol.com wrote: > I an VERY interested in your Newby roots, Any in Colorado? > > Here is All I know about my wifes grandmother, now LIVING in Santa Paula > California, after recently celebrating er 75th wedding anniversary, and > shortly afterward losing her Husband. > > Following is the ONE other newby in my files. > > Jeff Scism > > Descendants of Lance Newby > > 1 Lance Newby b: September 29, 1876 d: February 1966 in Longmont, > Colorado > .. + d: in Colorado > .. 2 Ruth Newby b: August 24, 1907 in Longmont, Co > ...... +Thomas Gordon Berry b: November 18, 1900 in Missouri d: January 13, > 1998 in Camarillo, Ventura, Ca. > ...... 3 Louise Berry b: September 18, 1930 in Oxnard, Ca.? d: Bef. > January 1932 in Santa Paula, Ca. > ...... 3 Betty Berry b: January 21, 1932 in Oxnard, Ca.? > ........... +Philip Edward Grace b: December 1932 > ........... 4 Steven L. Grace b: May 1955 > ........... 4 Shirley L. Grace > ........... 4 Sharon L. Grace > ........... 4 Suzie L. Grace > ...... *2nd Husband of Betty Berry: > ........... +Allen Richards > ...... 3 Helen June Berry b: June 17, 1933 in Santa Paula, California > ........... +Steven Leonard Bullock b: January 17, 1927 in Richland, Texas m: > October 09, 1954 in Las Vegas, Nevada Marriage ending: November 1968 d: > January 17, 1986 in Waco, McLennan County, Texas > ........... 4 Brenda Joyce Bullock b: March 18, 1956 > ............... +Christopher Woolf > ............... 5 Micheal Alexander Woolf > ........... 4 Steven Wayne Bullock b: August 06, 1957 > ........... 4 Keith Michael Bullock b: June 30, 1959 > ........... 4 Bettina Annette Bullock b: March 03, 1961 > ........... 4 Bridget Nanette Bullock b: May 20, 1962 in Westminster, > California > ............... +Jeffery Glenn Scism b: November 14, 1956 in Glendale, > California m: April 07, 1993 in Las Vegas, Nevada > ............... 5 Steven Charles Scism b: September 23, 1993 > ............... 5 James Robert Scism b: February 13, 1995 > ............... 5 Elizabeth Ann Scism b: February 13, 1995 > ...... 3 Kathleen Berry b: March 14, 1940 > ........... +Ronald Brown d: Abt. 1996 > ........... 4 Randy Brown > ........... 4 Ricky Brown > ...... *2nd Husband of Kathleen Berry: > ........... +Alvin Michels > ...... 3 Joann Berry b: January 16, 1942 > ........... +Donald Beard > ........... 4 Jeff Beard > ............... +Sarah > ............... 5 Prudence Grace Beard b: October 01, 1998 > > Descendants of William R Newby > > 1 William R Newby > .. +Deborah Gee b: August 09, 1951 in Coffeyville, Montgomery Count, > Kansas m: August 09, 1975 in Phillipsburg, Phillips County, Kansas > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > A Vestal Family Association is forming, and we would like for you to > come and join us! Please e-mail Pat at: Icezena@texas.net

I an VERY interested in your Newby roots, Any in Colorado? Here is All I know about my wifes grandmother, now LIVING in Santa Paula California, after recently celebrating er 75th wedding anniversary, and shortly afterward losing her Husband. Following is the ONE other newby in my files. Jeff Scism Descendants of Lance Newby 1 Lance Newby b: September 29, 1876 d: February 1966 in Longmont, Colorado .. + d: in Colorado .. 2 Ruth Newby b: August 24, 1907 in Longmont, Co ...... +Thomas Gordon Berry b: November 18, 1900 in Missouri d: January 13, 1998 in Camarillo, Ventura, Ca. ...... 3 Louise Berry b: September 18, 1930 in Oxnard, Ca.? d: Bef. January 1932 in Santa Paula, Ca. ...... 3 Betty Berry b: January 21, 1932 in Oxnard, Ca.? ........... +Philip Edward Grace b: December 1932 ........... 4 Steven L. Grace b: May 1955 ........... 4 Shirley L. Grace ........... 4 Sharon L. Grace ........... 4 Suzie L. Grace ...... *2nd Husband of Betty Berry: ........... +Allen Richards ...... 3 Helen June Berry b: June 17, 1933 in Santa Paula, California ........... +Steven Leonard Bullock b: January 17, 1927 in Richland, Texas m: October 09, 1954 in Las Vegas, Nevada Marriage ending: November 1968 d: January 17, 1986 in Waco, McLennan County, Texas ........... 4 Brenda Joyce Bullock b: March 18, 1956 ............... +Christopher Woolf ............... 5 Micheal Alexander Woolf ........... 4 Steven Wayne Bullock b: August 06, 1957 ........... 4 Keith Michael Bullock b: June 30, 1959 ........... 4 Bettina Annette Bullock b: March 03, 1961 ........... 4 Bridget Nanette Bullock b: May 20, 1962 in Westminster, California ............... +Jeffery Glenn Scism b: November 14, 1956 in Glendale, California m: April 07, 1993 in Las Vegas, Nevada ............... 5 Steven Charles Scism b: September 23, 1993 ............... 5 James Robert Scism b: February 13, 1995 ............... 5 Elizabeth Ann Scism b: February 13, 1995 ...... 3 Kathleen Berry b: March 14, 1940 ........... +Ronald Brown d: Abt. 1996 ........... 4 Randy Brown ........... 4 Ricky Brown ...... *2nd Husband of Kathleen Berry: ........... +Alvin Michels ...... 3 Joann Berry b: January 16, 1942 ........... +Donald Beard ........... 4 Jeff Beard ............... +Sarah ............... 5 Prudence Grace Beard b: October 01, 1998 Descendants of William R Newby 1 William R Newby .. +Deborah Gee b: August 09, 1951 in Coffeyville, Montgomery Count, Kansas m: August 09, 1975 in Phillipsburg, Phillips County, Kansas

Hi Peggy! I too descend from John and Sarah (Hayworth) Wheeler through their daughter Mary. Mary's son William Vestal married Elizabeth Newby and I descend from their daughter, Rachel C. Vestal who married Robert Polk Petty. Anyway, in response to your questions: 1) I know nothing about John Wheeler's mother being Kesiah Manlove. To the contrary, Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. 1 on page 367 says that John Wheeler who married Elizabeth Piggott was "s. John & Mary, b. about 4-8-1746, in Md." 2) Also on pg 367 is John's death 11-7-1802. 3) The death of Sarah (Hayworth) Wheeler is shown on page 367 in the same family grouping with John and Mary (Piggott) Wheeler, as follows: "Sarah Wheeler, dt. Stephanus & Rachel Hayworth, d. 3-26-1789, in 39th yr., bur. Cane Creek." The fact that Sarah (Hayworth) Wheeler's death is given in the same grouping does not prove that she was the first wife of the same John as Married Elizabeth Piggott, bit I have taken it as such. Also, the weel known Vestal researcher, Eunice M. Vestal sent me materials in which she lists both of these women as the wives of the same John Wheeler. 4) By the way, on page 366 the complete family grouping of William and Mary (Wheeler) Vestal is given with the birth dates seven children and the deaths of both William and Mary. William and Mary's marriage is given on pages 426 and 428 as February 10, 1791 at Cane Creek MM, rather than in 1795 as you mention in your inquiry. (The birth of their first child, Thomas, is given as 11-18-1791). 5) I have info on ancestors of William Vestal and Elizabeth Piggott, if you are interested. You may already have all of the above and be looking for more, but thought I'd send it along, just in case. Best Wishes, David G. White Burlington, VT whiteknight@adelphia.net

Hello, Does anyone have records for or whatever to show that: 1. John WHEELER b April 1746 Maryland is the son of John WHEELER and Kesiah MANLOVE. 2. That this same John WHEELER was the one who married 1st Sarah HAWORTH. That this is the same man who after the death of his wife, Sarah m Elizabeth PIGGOTT. Help! I descend from John and Sarah HAWORTH WHEELER thru their only child of record, Mary b Aug 1771 NC m 1795 NC William VESTAL b Nov 1759. From William and Mary WHEELER VESTAL, I descend from their son, John VESTAL who married Elizabeth (Betsy) CROOKE HAMM. Thanks for any information :) Peggy Pegleghill@aol.com

This is my sheet for Soleman S. Vestal of Yadkin County, NC and his wife Caroline Pendry. My mother and Aunt said he picked up and went west some place. His wife Caroline and kids stayed in Yadkin County, NC. Later they moved to Leaksville NC (now called Eden,NC). Caroline and her son John is buried in the same cemetery as my father just north of Eden, NC. Dates were taken off of their tombstones. I was 9 years old when my great grandfather John Vestal died in Eden NC. He's buried near my father. Family Group Sheet ---------------------------------------- Husband: Soleman S Vestal #22 Born: in: Died: in: Buried: in: Father: Mother: (Granddaughter) Ovada Hankins Was told he went west and was never heard from again. Also that he and a Reynolds ran a brewery for the goverment in NC. The name "Swink" also enters the picture...don't know how it is connected to Soleman and Caroline. ------------------------------------------------ Wife: Caroline Pendry #23 Married: in: Born: 3 Jul 1835 in: Died: 25 Dec 1909 in: Eden,NC Buried: in: Woodlawn Cem,Eden,NC Father: Mother: ------------------------------------------------ M Child 1 John H Vestal #14 Born: 22 Dec 1862 in: Died: 7 May 1947 in: Buried in: Woodlawn Cem,Eden,NC Spouse: Angelina J Swisher #15 b. 11 Dec 1865 d. 11 Jul 1906 Married: in: ------------------------------------------------- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: SSiegrist@aol.com <------- Back to you COUSIN ********** another reply to rasberry. I looked up my info on your Vestal - here's what I have (of course subject to correction!) Solomon S Vestal born abt 1831 NC m. Mary C Pendry born abt 1836 ****** This is my gggfather *********** children: Silas H abt 1857 Jesse S abt sep 1859 Susan J abt 1861 John H abt 1862 ****** This is my great grandfather ********** William C abt 1864 Nelly E abt 1866 Sarah I abt 1869 Mary E abt 1870 Miles A abt 1871 Andrew abt 1872 Hilary B abt 1874 Martha G abt 1876 Eugene W abt 1879 I'm really hoping my Henry is also a member of this family. He was born abt 1860 so it's possible! >..born 1860 in Yadkin Co, NC. (he married Laura Seymour and some of their >.children moved to Warren Co Indiana) His marriage record to Laura listed his >.parents as Sal S and Caroline Vestal. ** You know Soleman could have went to Indiana to live with Henry or one of his kin. We know that he never wrote or came back home to NC. And no one know why he really left home to start with. rasberry@ezol.com

I would no way want to present Remus as anything other than what he was I find being hanged as a horsethief far more colorful than the stuffy man you painted a picture of Patricia Perkins at caviness@abts.net ---------- > From: ScismGenie@aol.com > To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VESTAL-L] Genealogy > Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 2:16 AM > > And throw away a distinguished membership in the International Black Sheep > Society of Genealogists? > > NO Way!! > > Jeff Scism, IBSSG Flockmaster > > > In a message dated 01/18/1999 9:29:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, > kennasmom@juno.com writes: > > << Subj: [VESTAL-L] Genealogy > Date: 01/18/1999 9:29:05 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: kennasmom@juno.com (Tori A Frandsen) > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com">VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: VESTAL-L@rootsweb.com > > Got this from another list. I hope you all enjoy it. > > Lets say that your great-great uncle Remus Starr, a fellow lacking in > character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in > 1889. > A cousin has supplied you with the only known photograph of Remus, > showing him > standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture are the words: > Remus Starr: Horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison, 1895. > Escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton > Detectives, convicted and hanged, 1889. > > Pretty grim situation, right? But let's revise things a bit. We > simply crop the picture, scan in an enlargement and edit it with image > processing software so that all that is seen is a head shot. > > Next, we rewrite the text: > > Remus Starr was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business > empire > grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and imitate > dealings > with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1885, he devoted several years > of > his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to > resume > his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital > investigation run by the renown Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, > Uncle > Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor > when > the platform upon which he was > standing collasped. > > Now we give Uncle Remus a distinguished place inside the family tree, > not hanging from it. > > >> > > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Thank you for not sending any virus warnings, FCC, spams, or any other > non-genealogy articles to the rootsweb lists. This helps to keep the > rootsweb's equipment running smoothly, and not ruin their equipment.

Thanks, I'll keep the address in the event I ever find MY black sheep. DJ

Yes THERE IS such a society. Here is our website: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/index.html