Dianne, I would like the gedcom also. Barbara

I have on loan from a cousin that lives in Boonville, Yadkin County, the book listed below. Some of you may already have the information but for the ones that don't, I hope it will help. ............... Source: Section 1, page 1 of the Yadkin County Heritage--North Carolina Volume I. Published by the Yadkin County Society Yadkinville, North Carolina 27055, 1981. Frances Harding Casstevens, Editor. The Formation Of Yadkin County. Yadkin County was formed from Surry County in 1850. An act ratified on January 28, 1851, established officials and a court system for Yadkin County. Alfred W. Martin, William C. DeJournette, Solomon Vestal, John Shores, Sr., and Thomas Martin were appointed commissioners to select a location for a permanent county seat which should be laid out as a town. The courts were to be held at Dowelltown until a courthouse could be erected. ............ There is a section about the Vestal Family Origin by Eunice M. Vestal. Also The Vestal Family: Descendants of Daniel and Anna, The Joel Franklin Vestal Family, History of the Hampton Monroe Vestal Family, and Sanford and Lula Bovender Vestal Family. There is a picture of a Vestal Home, and an article about a Vestal Plantation. Under the heading of Men's Occupations in 1850, section 160, p. 154, lists: Messer A. Vestal - Merchant Bartholomew Vestal, Jr. - Carpenter Bartholomew Vestal - Iron Master Under heading of Other Tobacco Factories, section 72, p. 86: in Footville, Yadkin Co. J.H. Vestal I will enter more later. Barbara Vestal Byrd in NC, adjacent Co. to Yadkin Co., NC

The following is from another list. Karen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:03 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: deaths--1892 These are deaths as reported in a Unionville, MO newspaper. Date of issue will be on top line, followed by death information that was listed in the paper. Good luck, all. Linda Died--August 2, 1892, Mrs. Minerva VESTAL, wife of John Vestal, at her home in Wilson township. Her remains were taken to the Rose graveyard for interment. There were services at the grave by Rev. Beck. Her funeral will be preached the third Sunday in October at Hogg College in Elm township by Rev. Lipp. (written by her husband, John Vestal) Nov. 1892 The youngest child of Mr. and Mrs. J. WARD, of Mendota, died Sunday, Nov. 13. The interment took place in the cemetery at this place.---Cincinnati Review. ***The Cincinnati Review is a paper in Cincinnati, Iowa..there are two cemeteries there Evergreen Cemetery and Pleasant Hill cemetery

This is what I have on Eli and Jemina. No proof or sources. Descendants of Eli Vestal Generation No. 1 1. ELI8 VESTAL (BENJAMIN (DR.)7, DAVID ANTHONY6, WILLIAM II5 VESTALL, WILLIAM4, MAJOR WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 VASSALL, JOHN1 VESTALL) was born August 12, 1803 in Cane Creek, Alamance Co., North Carolina, and died July 18, 1875 in Hesper, KS.. He married JEMIMA HUBBARD February 17, 1829 in Guilford, North Carolina. She was born February 25, 1805 in Deep River, Guilford Co., North Carolina. Children of ELI VESTAL and JEMIMA HUBBARD are: i. SARAH (SALLY)9 VESTAL, b. November 25, 1829, Randolph Co., North Carolina; m. JEHU WILSON, October 25, 1854, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. ii. DAVID VESTAL, b. July 02, 1831, Randolph Co., North Carolina. 2. iii. BENJAMIN VESTAL, b. April 09, 1834, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana; d. May 05, 1916, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. 3. iv. NATHAN VESTAL, b. March 25, 1838, Hendricks, Indiana; d. May 30, 1917, Hendricks, Indiana. 4. v. JAMES MULLOY VESTAL, b. January 15, 1840, Mooresville, Morgan Co., Indiana. 5. vi. JOHN HINES VESTAL, b. January 15, 1840, White Lick, Morgan, Co., Indiana. Generation No. 2 2. BENJAMIN9 VESTAL (ELI8, BENJAMIN (DR.)7, DAVID ANTHONY6, WILLIAM II5 VESTALL, WILLIAM4, MAJOR WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 VASSALL, JOHN1 VESTALL) was born April 09, 1834 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana, and died May 05, 1916 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. He married ANN MOORE May 28, 1856 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. She was born November 05, 1833 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana, and died December 17, 1919 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. Children of BENJAMIN VESTAL and ANN MOORE are: i. WILLIAM H.10 VESTAL, b. May 11, 1858, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana; d. October 08, 1875, Indiana. ii. JOHN E. VESTAL, b. May 09, 1862, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana; m. ANTONETTE MOORE, December 28, 1887, Hendricks Co., Indiania. iii. ALICE M. VESTAL, b. September 04, 1866, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. iv. BENJAMIN CORYDON (COREY) VESTAL, b. December 29, 1868, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana; m. CORA MABEL BALCH, September 01, 1895, Hendricks Co., Indiania; b. September 01, 1875, Greencastle, Indiana. v. CHARLES LOWDER VESTAL, b. January 18, 1873, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. 3. NATHAN9 VESTAL (ELI8, BENJAMIN (DR.)7, DAVID ANTHONY6, WILLIAM II5 VESTALL, WILLIAM4, MAJOR WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 VASSALL, JOHN1 VESTALL) was born March 25, 1838 in Hendricks, Indiana, and died May 30, 1917 in Hendricks, Indiana. He married SARAH JANE MENDENHALL October 12, 1859 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks Co., IN. She was born May 25, 1841 in Hendricks, Indiana, and died November 28, 1910 in Hendricks, Indiana. Children of NATHAN VESTAL and SARAH MENDENHALL are: i. EVERETT J10 VESTAL, b. September 01, 1860, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. ii. REBECCA M. VESTAL, b. March 12, 1863, Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana; m. WILLIAM CHANDLER, June 30, 1920, Hendricks Co., Indiania; b. Abt. 1863. 4. JAMES MULLOY9 VESTAL (ELI8, BENJAMIN (DR.)7, DAVID ANTHONY6, WILLIAM II5 VESTALL, WILLIAM4, MAJOR WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 VASSALL, JOHN1 VESTALL) was born January 15, 1840 in Mooresville, Morgan Co., Indiana. He married MARTHA JANE LIGHTFOOT September 09, 1865 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. She was born May 25, 1838 in Malaga, Monroe, Ohio, and died May 16, 1919 in Newburg, Yamhill Co., Oregon. Children of JAMES VESTAL and MARTHA LIGHTFOOT are: i. PLUMMER10 VESTAL, b. June 18, 1866, Johnson Co., Kansas; d. October 28, 1947. ii. EMMA JANE VESTAL, b. July 14, 1868, Lawrence, Douglas Co., Kansas. iii. FRANCIS E. VESTAL, b. May 09, 1873, Johnson Co., Kansas; d. November 19, 1950. iv. WILLIAM JAMES VESTAL, b. December 04, 1877, Pumpkin Center, Johnson, Kansas; d. August 1940. 5. JOHN HINES9 VESTAL (ELI8, BENJAMIN (DR.)7, DAVID ANTHONY6, WILLIAM II5 VESTALL, WILLIAM4, MAJOR WILLIAM3, WILLIAM2 VASSALL, JOHN1 VESTALL) was born January 15, 1840 in White Lick, Morgan, Co., Indiana. He married ELIZA KING September 09, 1865 in Plainfield MM, Hendricks, Indiana. She was born 1832 in Ohio. Child of JOHN VESTAL and ELIZA KING is: i. SARAH A.10 VESTAL, b. 1875, Kansas. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Wilson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:48 PM Subject: [VESTAL-L] Eli Vestal >I am looking for decendests of Eli Vestal and Jemina Hubbord. My great grandmother was Sarah Vestal Wilson. I know she had brothers and other grandchildren. Barb > > >==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== >Thank you for not sending any attachments, virus warnings, FCC, spams, or any other non-genealogy articles to the rootsweb lists. This helps to keep the rootsweb's equipment running smoothly, and not ruin their equipment. > >

Well said! Documentation is a real pain in the ---, but without it we are wasting everybody's time. Vanessa Tom Rea wrote: > > One of the blessings of internet genealogy is the ability to > instantly share data and locate other descendants. One of the curses > is that it quickly spreads erroneous data that is self perpetuating. > I fully understand the dilemma. I have shared my work and the work I > have gathered from others only to have it resent to me years later as > someone else's work with all my early mistakes which I have since > corrected. We all need to try to put sources attached to the data > when we can or to put "no sources to corroborate" when we have no > sources. > > One bad thing about using the internet for genealogy I have found for > myself is that I no longer make that time consuming trek to the > libraries, court houses and archives as I used to before the > internet. It is so much easier to search at home on the net. But > what can happen is that mistakes are sent and resent. Once I put > unproven but suspected maiden names in brackets on something I sent > out. It showed up later without the brackets as facts and is now > firmly embedded on World Connect. I only wanted to share research > ideas and had no idea it would land there distorted from my ideas, > but too late. Right now I hold a large database of my Rea family but > I am unwillingly to let it loose on the net until I can do a better > job of including sources. I was good at researching and collecting > but the slow, tedious job of documenting wasn't my primary concern. > Now I have to go back and do it all over again. Thank goodness the > computer at least makes it easier. But that was my lesson learned > the hard way. > > One of the great things about the Vestal family is that it is a > unique family all related it seems in the USA. Gradually I began to > collect a Vestal database to use for a process of elimination as I > tried to connect my known Vestal ancestors to the larger NC family. > I am constantly printing out data sent to this list and painstakingly > going line by line to my database to add detail, etc. What I find is > lots of differing dates and even place names, etc. What I do now is > put both versions or eliminate ones that seem to be obvious mistakes > or typos. > > There is a new and I think somewhat expensive genealogy site that is > just opening which promotes a new concept. When you send in data to > share, a sophisticated new program attempts to match it up and > connect to a larger data base. It will then point out to the viewers > discrepancies and variations in the data. A great idea. I am just > leery of having to spend money for membership. BTW the site is: > > http://www.onegreatfamily.com/z/genealogybrowse > > Anyone with any experience with OneGreatFamily please share your pros > and cons. I want to join, but hesitate to spend money on an unknown > entity. I have paid membership to ancestry.com for more than a year > now and it has been very useful and worth the fee. (Ancestry.com > often offers free days to non-members and that is how I felt > confident to join) The use of its on-line census indexes alone is a > real boon to leads for further research. It searches counties and > town with soundex for a surname. So much quicker that using > countless books in a library and painfully standing in line to xerox > the data or trying every variation you can dream up. I use > ancestry.com with results well worth the low fees, but I have never > used FamilyTree because the fees seem so high. Any comments from > those who are members of Family Tree?? > > I don't know that there is correct and incorrect data in our Vestal > genealogy but we have all noticed discrepancies. Those who are > sticklers for sources have nugged us all to be aware of lack of > sources. My efforts with the Vestal family indicate that a lot of > the data originally came from LDS sources. It is well known that > many of the early LDS submitters were amateurs and many mistakes are > now in the LDS data and perpetuating the problem. LDS has since > improved and most of us now realize we can only use undocumented data > as a lead to do our own work. Most of the Vestal data we are > circulating originally came from LDS data. You can go there on the > net and find the sources, some of which is long ago and the > submitters are long dead with their sources. LDS has vast and > reliable marriage records which are very helpful on-line, but very > often you can see discrepancies in children's birthdates that are not > possible given the ages and dates of the parents, etc. > > So modern genealogy has tremendous aids and speed but one is also in > a nest of sorting out errors. My hope is that the Vestal list can > help us to compile a well documented database for the net. I think > we are doing that with our discussions and sharing. People who are > strict about sources have their place in good work, but I have also > seen people who sat on their data for years until they could move an > inch--waiting for a marriage record. Often one has to go on and jump > a generation back and try to work back. If one is too linear you can > be stymied too. So we all need each other. The right brainers to > venture out and creatively look for leads and connections based on > intuition and the left brainers documenting and demanding PROOF, > PROOF, PROOF. It all works out if we stick together and do not get > mad at each other. Patience and persistence pays off in genealogy. > > My thoughts on sources, > Tom Rea looking to prove my connections to the Vestal family > > If you have a sophisticated genealogy program it is enlightening to > go back on your pedigree and try to insert a source for every piece > of data (in other ways how you know this or that state fact: family > bible held by, marriage records, living memory, etc.) Luckily I kept > paper files and often I open a file and insert my left out sources > and type into the database paper notes. Then I can finally toss the > accumulation of paper. getting notes onto the computer and tossing > the debris is very worthwhile, but do backups the rest of your life!! > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/

I only have one child listed from this union: Sally b. Bef. 1831 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 8:29 PM Subject: [VESTAL-L] Eli Vestal > I am looking for decendests of Eli Vestal and Jemina Hubbord. My great grandmother was Sarah Vestal Wilson. I know she had brothers and other grandchildren. Barb > > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Thank you for not sending any attachments, virus warnings, FCC, spams, or any other non-genealogy articles to the rootsweb lists. This helps to keep the rootsweb's equipment running smoothly, and not ruin their equipment. > >

I am looking for decendests of Eli Vestal and Jemina Hubbord. My great grandmother was Sarah Vestal Wilson. I know she had brothers and other grandchildren. Barb

Thank you, Tom. In all the information received via this list in the last few weeks, I find myriads of discrepancies with what I have in my data base. I dont know where to begin to try to find out whether the info I have is incorrect or that other's info is incorrect. I would like to see all documentation myself. I have documentation for my own line as it goes back William VESTAL m Alice GLOVER BRUNDSEN. Because I have no proof for going back any further, nothing more is in my data base. :) I am off my soap box now. Peggy in CA

Message #1 was in regards to Thomas and Rachel G. Vestal of Lamar Co., Texas. I am descended from them through their daughter Rachel Vestal who married Jacob Newton Cook in about 1883 in Lamar Co., Tx. I knew that Thomas and Rachel were buried in the Caviness Cemetery but had no idea that her maiden name could have been Caveness. Rachel Vestal Cook was born abt 1861 in Lamar Co., Tx and died abt 1891 in Hunt County, Texas when my grandmother was abt 4-5 years old. I have Radhel's portrait and she was a very pretty lady. I would love to hear from others who may have info regarding these Vestals.

One of the blessings of internet genealogy is the ability to instantly share data and locate other descendants. One of the curses is that it quickly spreads erroneous data that is self perpetuating. I fully understand the dilemma. I have shared my work and the work I have gathered from others only to have it resent to me years later as someone else's work with all my early mistakes which I have since corrected. We all need to try to put sources attached to the data when we can or to put "no sources to corroborate" when we have no sources. One bad thing about using the internet for genealogy I have found for myself is that I no longer make that time consuming trek to the libraries, court houses and archives as I used to before the internet. It is so much easier to search at home on the net. But what can happen is that mistakes are sent and resent. Once I put unproven but suspected maiden names in brackets on something I sent out. It showed up later without the brackets as facts and is now firmly embedded on World Connect. I only wanted to share research ideas and had no idea it would land there distorted from my ideas, but too late. Right now I hold a large database of my Rea family but I am unwillingly to let it loose on the net until I can do a better job of including sources. I was good at researching and collecting but the slow, tedious job of documenting wasn't my primary concern. Now I have to go back and do it all over again. Thank goodness the computer at least makes it easier. But that was my lesson learned the hard way. One of the great things about the Vestal family is that it is a unique family all related it seems in the USA. Gradually I began to collect a Vestal database to use for a process of elimination as I tried to connect my known Vestal ancestors to the larger NC family. I am constantly printing out data sent to this list and painstakingly going line by line to my database to add detail, etc. What I find is lots of differing dates and even place names, etc. What I do now is put both versions or eliminate ones that seem to be obvious mistakes or typos. There is a new and I think somewhat expensive genealogy site that is just opening which promotes a new concept. When you send in data to share, a sophisticated new program attempts to match it up and connect to a larger data base. It will then point out to the viewers discrepancies and variations in the data. A great idea. I am just leery of having to spend money for membership. BTW the site is: http://www.onegreatfamily.com/z/genealogybrowse Anyone with any experience with OneGreatFamily please share your pros and cons. I want to join, but hesitate to spend money on an unknown entity. I have paid membership to ancestry.com for more than a year now and it has been very useful and worth the fee. (Ancestry.com often offers free days to non-members and that is how I felt confident to join) The use of its on-line census indexes alone is a real boon to leads for further research. It searches counties and town with soundex for a surname. So much quicker that using countless books in a library and painfully standing in line to xerox the data or trying every variation you can dream up. I use ancestry.com with results well worth the low fees, but I have never used FamilyTree because the fees seem so high. Any comments from those who are members of Family Tree?? I don't know that there is correct and incorrect data in our Vestal genealogy but we have all noticed discrepancies. Those who are sticklers for sources have nugged us all to be aware of lack of sources. My efforts with the Vestal family indicate that a lot of the data originally came from LDS sources. It is well known that many of the early LDS submitters were amateurs and many mistakes are now in the LDS data and perpetuating the problem. LDS has since improved and most of us now realize we can only use undocumented data as a lead to do our own work. Most of the Vestal data we are circulating originally came from LDS data. You can go there on the net and find the sources, some of which is long ago and the submitters are long dead with their sources. LDS has vast and reliable marriage records which are very helpful on-line, but very often you can see discrepancies in children's birthdates that are not possible given the ages and dates of the parents, etc. So modern genealogy has tremendous aids and speed but one is also in a nest of sorting out errors. My hope is that the Vestal list can help us to compile a well documented database for the net. I think we are doing that with our discussions and sharing. People who are strict about sources have their place in good work, but I have also seen people who sat on their data for years until they could move an inch--waiting for a marriage record. Often one has to go on and jump a generation back and try to work back. If one is too linear you can be stymied too. So we all need each other. The right brainers to venture out and creatively look for leads and connections based on intuition and the left brainers documenting and demanding PROOF, PROOF, PROOF. It all works out if we stick together and do not get mad at each other. Patience and persistence pays off in genealogy. My thoughts on sources, Tom Rea looking to prove my connections to the Vestal family If you have a sophisticated genealogy program it is enlightening to go back on your pedigree and try to insert a source for every piece of data (in other ways how you know this or that state fact: family bible held by, marriage records, living memory, etc.) Luckily I kept paper files and often I open a file and insert my left out sources and type into the database paper notes. Then I can finally toss the accumulation of paper. getting notes onto the computer and tossing the debris is very worthwhile, but do backups the rest of your life!!

So nice to see all the VESTAL cousins. Hope to meet all of you one day :)) Peggy in CA

This is also my line Joyce. Would you happen to have parents of Caroline Pendry? Thanks >From: "tom joyce" <[email protected]> > >Direct Descendants of James Vestal,Sr. >.............................. 4 Solomon Vestal II 1832 - >.................................. +Mary Caroline Pendry 1835 - 1909 m: >March 09, 1856 in Yadkin Co., NC

Caviness, was wondering if you are connected with the Caviness-Vestal in Lamar Co. Texas. My connection is Mary Ann Vestal born abt 1823 married John W. Hobbs in 1847 in Lamar Co. Tx. I belief Mary Ann was sister to Thomas Vestal who married a Rachel G.Caviness. Thomas and Rachel are both buried in Caviness Cem. in Lamar Co. caviness wrote: > > thank you Dianne Pat Perkins > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dianne <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 3:16 AM > Subject: [VESTAL-L] recent Vestal obits 1995-2000 > > > Go here and type in Vestal. gives married name of Vestal female also > > > > http://obits.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi? > > > > > > > > > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, put unsubscribe in 1st line of body & subject, turn > > automatic signatures off, & sent to: [email protected] for > > reg. mail, and to [email protected] for digest mode. > > > > > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Please post your Vestal lines! That new member just might be the link you're looking for!

Dianne, My line is William & Alice, William Jr & Elizabeth Mercer, David & Sarah, Lydia & Robert Moffitt, Lydia Moffitt & David Davis etc. and if we aren't cousins, I have a friend who has a Diehl line and he'd be glad to share info with you. Alene

-----Original Message----- From: Dianne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:56 PM Subject: Vestal/Glover >I found this, while looking around the web. Here is the addy for this > >http://www.dayton.net/~gbumgarner/ > >Descendants of William Vestal and Alice Glover Vestal > >THIS PAGE IS BEING REVISED - >PLEASE CHECK BACK LATER FOR CURRENT POSTINGS -- HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL BE >READY BY OCT 1. > > >William Vestal, born about 1667, probably in England married Mrs. Alice >Glover Brunsden in 1692 in Buck Co., PA. They had four children: >1. Sarah - born abt 1693, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA >died of drwoning May 3, 1696 (Old Style date)[Coroner's report to Court >dated 8th month, 4th day, 1698] >2. Mary - born abt 1694, Chester Co., PA >-- Nothing more is know of Mary. > >3. William, Jr. - born 16 sep 1692, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA >4. George - born abt 1698, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA >George is listed on the Brandford Twp., Chester Co. tax list in 1720 and on >the Conestoga Twp, Chester Co., PA (now Lancaster Co., PA) tax list in 1721. >Nothing more is known of him after 1721. > > >Descendants of John Vestal and Ann Potts >Descendants of Mary Vestal and William Jay >Descendants of Thomas Vestal and Elizabeth Davis >Descendants of James Vestal and Mary (Jay?) >Descendants of David Vestal and Sarah Chamness> >

I found this, while looking around the web. Here is the addy for this http://www.dayton.net/~gbumgarner/ Descendants of William Vestal and Alice Glover Vestal THIS PAGE IS BEING REVISED - PLEASE CHECK BACK LATER FOR CURRENT POSTINGS -- HOPEFULLY, THEY WILL BE READY BY OCT 1. William Vestal, born about 1667, probably in England married Mrs. Alice Glover Brunsden in 1692 in Buck Co., PA. They had four children: 1. Sarah - born abt 1693, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA died of drwoning May 3, 1696 (Old Style date)[Coroner's report to Court dated 8th month, 4th day, 1698] 2. Mary - born abt 1694, Chester Co., PA -- Nothing more is know of Mary. 3. William, Jr. - born 16 sep 1692, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA 4. George - born abt 1698, Birmingham, Chester Co., PA George is listed on the Brandford Twp., Chester Co. tax list in 1720 and on the Conestoga Twp, Chester Co., PA (now Lancaster Co., PA) tax list in 1721. Nothing more is known of him after 1721. Descendants of John Vestal and Ann Potts Descendants of Mary Vestal and William Jay Descendants of Thomas Vestal and Elizabeth Davis Descendants of James Vestal and Mary (Jay?) Descendants of David Vestal and Sarah Chamness>

Descendants of John Vestal FIRST GENERATION 1. John Vestal was born about 1718 (Eunice Vestal gives DOB asin Chester Co., PA and died in 1776 in Berkeley Co., VA. He was married to Ann Potts (daughter of David Potts and Elizabeth Lane)on 25 Dec 1748 at the Goose Creek MM, Frederick Co., VA (now Jefferson Co., WV) [Encyclopedia of Amer Quakers; William Wade Hinshaw; Goose Creek MM, page 716.] Ann (also known as Hannah )Potts was born about 1730 in Germantown, Philadelphia, PA. John and Ann, with dau Elizabeth, disowned from Hopewell MM for consenting to daughter's marrying outside of unity Col. Bealor. Birthdate also listed as 1733, Chester Co. 1 Jun 1772 John Vestal consented to his daughter's marriage out of unity [to Bealor] and made her a wedding at his house. James Steer and Richard ridgeway Jr. appointed to visit him. 6 Jul 1772 John Vestal complained of for drinking. Jonathan Perkins appointed to draw testimony against John Vestal and to assist women to draw testimony against Ann Vestal and Elizabeth Bealor. 5-3-1779 John was 'complained against for training in the military service and also has hired a man as substitute to go into the war." (Hinshaw, 1779,5,3). Disowned for marrying Ann Potts, Jr. 27 Apr 1773 - Fairfax MM, VA: Ann Potts disowned at Fairfax MM for marrying first cousin; copy of disownment papers sent to Hopewell MM for service upon her. Eunice Vestals gives John's birthdate as Jun 1725. Fairfax MM, VA; Hannah (Ann) Potts Vestal dis for marrying her first cousin; copy of disownment papers sent to Hopewell MM for service upon her. John Vestal and Ann Potts had the following children: +2 i. William Vestal. +3 ii. Elizabeth Vestal. +4 iii. Mary Vestal. 5 iv. John Vestal. Disowned by Quakers for drilling and hiring a substitute for serving in the Revolutionary War. 6 v. David Vestal. 7 vi. Jonathan Vestal. SECOND GENERATION 2. William Vestal was born about 1750 in Frederick Co., VA. He died in 1781. Married first cousin (Hopewell MM Minutes). Served in Revolutionary War, a Lt. Probably killed at Battle of Guilford C.H., NC. Hannah Potts (daughter of Jonas Potts and Mary Stroud) was born in Loudoun, VA. [Hinshaw: Fairfax, VA MM, page 575: "Hannah (formerly POTTS) who was married contrary to discipline in 2nd month last to her first cousin and removed to Hopewell MM, VA, disowned 27-4-1773, (copy of discipline paper sent to Hopewell MM for service upon her)."] William Vestal and Hannah Potts had the following children: +8 i. Mary Vestal. 9 ii. William Vestal Jr. was born about 1780. 3. Elizabeth Vestal was born about 1754 in Frederick Co., VA. Married contrary to discipline (Hopewell MM, 1773). She was married to Col. George Beeler on 3 Aug 1772 in Frederick Co., VA. Col. George Beeler was born about 1749. Elizabeth Vestal and Col. George Beeler had the following children: +10 i. Nancy Beeler. 11 ii. Margaret Beeler was born about 1777. +12 iii. Elizabeth Beeler. 13 iv. Frederick Beeler was born about 1781. 4. Mary Vestal. THIRD GENERATION 8. Mary Vestal was born on 1 Sep 1774. She died on 13 Nov 1828. She was married to John Potts (son of David Potts Jr. and Mary Thomas) on 6 Feb 1794. John Potts was born on 6 Mar 1769 in Loudoun Co., VA. He died on 16 Nov 1828. Mary Vestal and John Potts had the following children: +14 i. David Potts. 15 ii. William Potts was born on 31 Jul 1796. He died on 17 May 1872. +16 iii. Jonas Potts. 17 iv. Elizabeth Potts was born on 18 Jul 1798. She died on 14 Oct 1826. +18 v. John Edward Potts. 10. Nancy Beeler was born on 7 Aug 1775. She was married to Jesse Bane. Jesse Bane was born on 4 Sep 1772 in Chester Co., PA. 12. Elizabeth Beeler was born on 25 Nov 1779. She was married to Mordecai Bane, who was born on 22 Oct 1777 in Ryerson Station, Green, PA. Elizabeth Beeler and Mordecai Bane had the following children: +19 i. George Bane. +20 ii. Rachel Bane. +21 iii. Mary Bane. +22 iv. Frederick Bane. +23 v. Jesse Beeler Bane. +24 vi. Joseph Bane. +25 vii. Mordecai Bane. FOURTH GENERATION 14. David Potts was born on 11 Jun 1795. He died on 4 Nov 1873. He was married to Rebecca Talley (b. 25 Jul 1798-d. 13 Sep 1872, Clinton Co., IL) on 24 Feb 1818. David Potts and Rebecca Talley had the following children: 26 i. Eliza Ann Potts was born on 25 Aug 1819. 27 ii. John Potts was born on 2 Mar 1821. He died in 1872. 28 iii. Edward Potts was born on 12 Dec 1822. He died on 27 Oct 1886. 29 iv. Nathan Potts was born on 21 Mar 1825. He died in 1882. 30 v. William Potts was born on 2 Jun 1827. 31 vi. Jonas Potts was born on 30 Apr 1829. He died on 5 Feb 1833. 32 vii. David Franklin Potts was born on 19 Jul 1831. He died on 1 Feb 1833. 33 viii. Ebenezer Potts was born on 16 Aug 1833. 34 ix. Mary Margaret Potts was born on 13 May 1835. She died on 12 Oct 1864. 35 x. Cyrus Potts was born on 22 Jun 1837. He died on 16 Aug 1863. 36 xi. Henry Harrison Potts was born on 28 Jun 1840. He died on 7 Sep 1858. 16. Jonas Potts was born on 31 Jul 1796. He died on 18 Apr 1877. He was married to Mary Dowling. Jonas Potts and Mary Dowling had the following children: 37 i. Thomas William Potts was born on 29 Mar 1839. 38 ii. John Lewis Potts was born on 15 Dec 1841. He died in 1863. In Confederate Army. 18. John Edward Potts was born on 18 Aug 1806. He died on 2 Feb 1885. He was married to Ruth Talley on 22 Aug 1833. Ruth Talley died on 12 Feb 1885 in Loudoun Co., VA. John Edward Potts and Ruth Talley had the following children: 39 i. Jonathan Potts was born on 11 Sep 1834. 19. George Bane was born on 15 Mar 1804 in Greene Co., PA. He was married to Mahala Wayman. Mahala Wayman was born on 11 Mar 1806. 20. Rachel Bane was born on 2 Feb 1806 in Ryerson Station, Greene, PA. She was married to John Standiford. John Standiford was born in Aug 1798. 21. Mary Bane was born on 20 Mar 1808 in Greene Co., PA. She was married to John Wilson. John Wilson was born about 1808. 22. Frederick Bane was born on 14 Oct 1810 in Ryerson Station, Green, PA. He was married to Martha Harvey. Martha Harvey was born on 4 Jan 1813. Frederick Bane and Martha Harvey had the following children: 40 i. Alfred Bane was born on 27 Mar 1836 in Marshall, WV. 41 ii. John Bane was born on 13 Feb 1840 in Marshall, WV. 42 iii. Mary Bane was born about 1842 in Marshall, WV. 43 iv. George Bane was born about 1844 in Marshall, WV. 44 v. Charles Bane was born about 1850 in Marshall, WV. 23. Jesse Beeler Bane was born on 12 May 1812 in Ryerson Station, Green Co., PA. He was married to Rachel Strawn, b. 18 Feb 1818 in OH. Jesse Beeler Bane and Rachel Strawn had the following children: 45 i. John Bane was born about 1842 in Lacon, Marshall, IL. 46 ii. George Bane was born about 1844 in Lacon, Marshall, IL. 47 iii. Jesse Bane was born about 1846 in Lacon, Marshall, IL. 48 iv. Charles Bane was born about 1849 in Lacon, Marshall, IL. 49 v. Estelle Bane was born about 1857 in Lacon, Marshall, IL. 24. Joseph Bane was born on 9 Aug 1818 in Ryerson Station, Green, PA. He was married to Mary Foster, b. 9 Mar 1817 in PA. Joseph Bane and Mary Foster had the following children: 50 i. James Foster Bane was born on 12 Sep 1838 in Marshall, WV. 51 ii. Elizabeth Anne Bane was born on 21 Jan 1840 in Marshall, WV. 52 iii. William Morgan Bane was born on 9 Oct 1841 in Marshall, WV. 53 iv. John Albert Bane was born on 8 Aug 1843 in Marshall, WV. 54 v. Eleanor Virginia Bane was born on 17 Jan 1846 in Marshall, WV. 55 vi. Hannah Jane Bane was born on 26 Jan 1848 in Marshall, WV. 56 vii. Joseph Franklin Bane was born on 30 Jun 1850 in Marshall, WV. 57 viii. Mary Martha Bane was born on 5 Aug 1852 in Marshall, WV. 58 ix. Milton Mordecai Bane was born on 20 Feb 1855 in Proctor, Wetzel Co., West Virginia. 25. Mordecai Bane was born on 20 Sep 1820 in Greene Co., PA. He was married to Sarah Amanda Blodgett, b. on 4 Dec 1822 in Marshall, WV. Mordecai Bane and Sarah Amanda Blodgett had the following children: 59 i. Emmaline Amanda Bane was born on 11 Aug 1842 in Marshall, WV. 60 ii. Hannah Margaret Bane was born on 9 Dec 1843 in Wheeling, Marshall, WV. 61 iii. Benjamin Beeler Bane was born on 31 Aug 1845 in Marshall, WV. 62 iv. Joseph M. Bane was born on 13 Jul 1847 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 63 v. William Bane was born on 15 Aug 1849 in WV. 64 vi. Franklin B. Bane was born on 15 Aug 1849. 65 vii. Gabrielle Jane Bane was born on 15 Feb 1851 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 66 viii. Jesse Augustus Bane was born on 10 Aug 1853 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 67 ix. John W. Bane was born about 1853 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 68 x. Elizabeth M. Bane was born on 3 Aug 1857 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 69 xi. Mordecai Ensley Bane was born on 31 Mar 1859 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 70 xii. Sarah Effie Bane was born on 31 Mar 1859 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 71 xiii. Armita E. Bane was born on 6 Mar 1861 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 72 xiv. George Bane was born on 6 Nov 1862 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 73 xv. Lydia V. Bane was born on 20 Nov 1864 in Shaws Point, Marshall, IL. 74 xvi. Rachel Ellen Bane was born on 6 Jan 1868 in Shaws Point, Lasalle, IL. Prepared by: Ginny Hamilton Bumgarner 2805 Southfield Dr. Beavercreek, OH 45434-5717 937-426-2252

What color was the lipstick? That can be a clue as to the date of the documentation? Thanks for the laughs, I really needed them.

Thanks to everybody for sharing your information. But please don't be offended that some of us ask if you have a source. It's not that we're ungrateful or are doubting you personally. After you have been looking for something for ten years or more, many times you are lead to believe that someone has finally found something that will verify all the stuff written eons ago in great auntie's undocumented genealogy. What you usually eventually find out is that this "new" source is simply someone else discovering the old original material all over again (for the jillionth time) and you are no further along at all. You then must explain to everyone who wasn't aware of this ancient book, that all her stuff seems to have just been made up to join the Colonial Dames and has not been really proven by anyone. Vanessa Dianne wrote: > > Genealogy > 9/8/2000 > > Lat year I shared some of my Genealogy information to a list that I belong > to,( NOT THIS ONE!) > and they came out of the woodwork. ( I was a little leary to post here for > a while because of this) Maybe it's just me, wherever I post > anything, they come after me, I have been almost kicked off two humor lists > because of the stories I post. (not from the list owner, but the rude people > on them) > > I can't believe some of these people, they ask for information they have > been looking for for thousands of years, ( well maybe 10 years at least) > you send it to them and instead of saying "Thank you for that information, I > have been looking everywhere for it", they say "And just WHERE did you find > THAT?" > "Where is your source of proof?" " I NEED the name of the book where you > found that AND the page number!" I just tell them, > "hey, it's a place for you to go to and find your proof" jeeezzzzzzzz. they > either want documentated information with page and number or none at all. > Of course this is just some, probably the professional genealogist, and that > for sure is not me. I wouldn't care if any information on the DIHEL family > came by bus, carried by a two headed pigmy, written on toilet paper in > lipstick. I WANT it. I surely wouldn't brow beat the giver. I like to help > people find people, but I guess you run into all kinds in the genealogy > world. I just do this for > fun and my own information, so I am the pitts on sources. But how would you > explain to someone what your sources are on a man born in 1600.? "I talked > to > the midwife?", " I have his bible?" , "His mother wrote me a letter?", > "Moses wrote it in stone?" heck, what kind of a source are you going to > find that far back. I just take it as I get it, don't care where it came > from. Pretty soon they will want a piece of the boat he come over in > with his name carved in it. But then they will want to know HOW I know that > he was the one doing the carving. Who the hell has the documentation on the > BIBLE? Sorry to have taken up your time, but there was no one to share this > little tidbit with. Just like a lady said the other day, that she could go > clear back to 63 B.C. Now there is where I would like to see documentation. > Maybe Christ was her ancestor's neighbor. Well good for her, I > imagine she can pick her lineage out of the old testament > Dianne > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/

I read it , this is what I based my geneology on explains why I have so much trouble pat [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Allen Vestal <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [VESTAL-L] genealogy > All I saw was the toilet paper blowing in the wind, couldn't read what was > on there. > > > > > ==== VESTAL Mailing List ==== > Please Help Support Rootsweb! By becoming a member, your donation will continue to have this great surname e-mail list, and the new surname boards on a website at Rootsweb! Your donations are the only thing that keep them going! Just go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >