On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: > there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth > > one tree says > > this man was father to > Haskell C Martin > > Born: Jan 1825 > Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 > Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA > > hope that helps Sylvia: I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell Martin's father? In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev War, and did not receive a pension. By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from Quebec around the time of the Civil War. Darrell

I recently joined Ancestry after many years away from it there are a great deal more trees and much more options for data than there used to be, unfortunately this seems to only have added to the confusion. Taking another look at this it seems there must have been many Ephraim Martins living in that era The info on the tree I mentioned which I picked because it seemed to be more complete than many others, states Married to Susanna Boynton and gives one source U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index Surname: Ephraim S. Martin Year: 1850 County: Windsor CO. State: VT Age: 67 Gender: M (Male) Month of Death: Jun State of Birth: MA ID#: MRT197_205342 Occupation: FARMER On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Darrell A. Martin wrote: > On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: >> there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth >> >> one tree says >> >> this man was father to >> Haskell C Martin >> >> Born: Jan 1825 >> Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 >> Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA >> >> hope that helps > > Sylvia: > > I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt > mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I > emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at > all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. > Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. > > Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell > Martin's father? > > In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) > Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in > the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. > served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received > a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev > War, and did not receive a pension. > > By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from > Quebec around the time of the Civil War. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/8/2012 6:49 AM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: ... > Taking another look at this it seems there must have been many > Ephraim Martins living in that era ... Sylvia: I agree; even with the middle name "Story" to go on, it does not reduce the confusion much. It may even make it worse. In particular, I find it hard to reconcile the newspaper article's report of "Captain" Martin's age at death, with the idea that he was the Rev War soldier who served in the Vermont militia. (It is clear that the Rev War pensioner who served with the Massachusetts Line died in 1833.) But I cannot find an Ephraim Martin in the War of 1812 lists that are online. Too much fun. My interest in this will continue because of the connection with Springfield. Anybody connected with my home town is automatically on my genealogical radar. Darrell

Darrell, Taking a quick look at this this AM there were a lot of Martins with similar names even in the 1800 - 1900 era must be a large overall tree. The Martin in my tree is Eugene Ray Martin b Derby in 1890 has Canadian ancestry. If I have this correct his father was Jacob, grandfather Albert L Martin of Canada. Eugene married a cousin of my father's Sylvia On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Darrell A. Martin wrote: > On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: >> there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth >> >> one tree says >> >> this man was father to >> Haskell C Martin >> >> Born: Jan 1825 >> Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 >> Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA >> >> hope that helps > > Sylvia: > > I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt > mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I > emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at > all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. > Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. > > Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell > Martin's father? > > In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) > Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in > the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. > served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received > a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev > War, and did not receive a pension. > > By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from > Quebec around the time of the Civil War. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message