Sally, I also have some family roots of Vermonters moving to Wisconsin. Coincidentally, my husband also has Wisconsin roots. In researching his line, I found that his ancestors made the move to Wisconsin in the 1850's and 1860's because the state was heavily advertising in East coast newspapers for settlers, especially in Wausau and Marathon counties.This might explain the "connection". Shelley Hilber > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:21:11 -0500 > From: Ruth Barton <mrgjb@sover.net> > Subject: [VERMONT] Socially active in 1889 > To: vermont@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <a0624084ecb713b9b8af0@[216.114.160.222]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Sally, Sorry to disappoint you, but I really don't have any real > knowledge. I just sort of picked Wisconsin out of mid air, I could have > easily written Chicago or Iowa. In reading these papers there seem to be > quite a few who visit "the West" and also many from states to the west who > come to Vermont to visit, many after very long absences. Ruth > > Ruth, > I would love it if you would comment re the man who had a party for his > forty-first birthday, not his fortieth when he may have been sick or "off > visiting in Wisconsin". I'm particularly interested in what you may know re > the relationship between Vermonters and Wisconsin. > > My maternal grandfather's roots are deep in southern Vermont, yet his > father, Leslie, was born in Wisconsin. Leslie's father, Lewis, had an uncle > and other family members in Wisconsin, which is probably why they went. Any > light you could shed re Vermonters moving to Wisconsin would be appreciated. > Thanks so much. > > Sally in Western MA

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Vital Statistics 8/2/1889 BIRTHS In North Shrewsbury, July 28th, a daughter to Mr. and Mrs. J. HARRISON. In Ludlow, July 26th, a son to Mr. and Mrs. Ed. C. WARNER. DEATHS In Andover, July 30th, Mrs. Mary B. AUSTIN, wife of Benj. AUSTIN, age 64 yearsm 5 months. In Simonsville, July 28th, Daniel FRENCH, aged 65 years. In Landgrove, July 17th, Jonathan NICHOLS, in his 97th year. In Peru, July 28th, Timothy RIDEOUT, aged 74 years. In Weston, July 20th, Mrs. Rebecca HOLDEN, aged 88 years. In Rutland, July 30th, Mrs. Anna (Ranger) POMEROY, aged 29 years, 9 months. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Here and There 8/2/1889 The highway bridge crossing the canal at the Bellows Falls depot has been closed to teams, as it is unsafe for travel. Editor L. O. GREENE of Woodstock, state inspector of finance, has returned from an extended business trip to the West, having traveled about 9,000 miles. The Court has appointed Henry SAFFORD of Hartford, Henry J. PARKER of Andover, and Myron BURNETT of Bethel, road commissioners for the year ensuing. The Bradley patent butter-packer works, now situated in Sunderland, will be moved to Manchester Depot, in September, into the new building that has just been completed. Miss Grace DENISON of Nashua, N. H., has bequeathed one-half of her personal property to the Congregational church in Chelsea. It is said to amount to nearly $2,000. The annual reunion of the Windsor County veterans will be held at Windsor, August 28th. Reduced rates on railroads centering at Windsor will be given, and prominent speakers will be present. The Claremont Junction Union camp-meeting will begin Aug. 27th,. The association will have the benefit of a daily paper, this year, published by F. W. STILES of Springfield REPORTER, the firs ttime in teh history of the association. Fremont W. GOULD of Rutland dropped dead from his bicycle while riding near Clarendon Springs, last Friday afternoon. He left his home on Wales street at about 3 o'clock, in apparent good spirits. Heart disease is supposed to have been the cause of death. The members of Windham County Pomona Grange, P. of H., are arranging for a great time at Brattleboro, this fall, probably about September 14th, when all the granges in the state, so far as possible, will be gotten together. Col. J. H. BRIGHAM of Ohio, master of the National Gange, will be present and deliver a lecture. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Plymouth Union 8/2/1889 Wet and rainy, as usual; bad for haymakers. W. D. BOYD and wife have returned to their home in Westminster, Mass. John E. WINDAL of Worcester, Mass., is in town buying lumber for building purposes at his home. N. D. WILDER and wife are nicely located in the WILDER House. W. W. PHILBRICK's people have arrived home, and report a very pleasant trip and visit in Boston and intermediate places. Mrs. Lewis TASHEIRA and son Arthur have returned to their home in San Francisco, Cal. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 North Shrewsbury 8/2/1889 Allen BURDETT, our enterprising fellow townsman, has added a lathe to his machinery for the manufacture of chair-stock, at a cost of about $400. He has turned with it 18 chair-posts in one minute, or 300 per hour. The post has the usual five beads swells and tennon when it come out of the lathe. We congratulate Mr. and Mrs. J. HARRISON on the birth of a fine girl baby, last Sunday. Still it rains. Such a wet season has not been known in the memory of the oldest inhabitant. No hay has been made since last Friday. Mr. and Mrs. Ira RUSSELL have opened their large and pleasant house for city boarders. Madam and Mrs. GAVETT and Miss GAVETT of Salem, Mass., arrived several days ago, and three more are coming this week. The Lord's Supper will be administered here, after the morning sermon, Sunday. We hope all Christian people in this vicinity will avail themselves of this precious privilege. Mrs. A. C. LOCKE, who has been boarding at Luther LORD's for three weeks past returned to her home in Salem, Mass., today (Wednesday), much improved in health. Her daughter Lizzie will remain through the Summer, and her sister Harriet and another young lady are expected Thursday. These ladies spent part of last Summer here and know the advantage of being up among the Green mountains. Pure air, pure water, pure milk, and sweet butter, are among the desirable things that contribute to health and comfort; and then not least good Christian privileges. We don't wonder they return to us, and we are pleased to add we have room and a cordial welcome for many more such persons, as a number of our best families are prepared to take city boarders. Miss Maud ALLEN has returned from Winsted, Conn., where she has been visiting with her father for ten days or more. On Tuesday last, by special invitation, five young ladies paid a visit to Mrs. Quincy WHEELER; viz., Mary PARKER, Grace JOHNSON, Bessie GUILD, Grace ACKLEY, Emma WRIGHT. The arranged their toilet with no reference to the latest style and as odd as possible, intending to surprise Mrs. W.; when lo! she met them at the door dressed in an antiquated blue silk dress, with a red tie around her neck, and received them very graciously. Altogether it was a very enjoyable visit. Mrs. WHEELER knows how to make it very pleasant for young people. Ira RUSSELL has given his large residence at the Center a coat of white paint Now with its green blinds it presents a very neat appearance. We note also that the school-house at the Center has been brightened up by a thorough painting on the outside, and as it has been reshingled recently it looks like a new building. Your correspondent had the pleasure, last Sunday, of riding to church after a fine young team, nicely matched as to color and size. Jonah ALDRICH, the owner, evidently loves a good horse and knows how to care for them. We are pleased to hear a number of farmers express themselves as satisfied with the colts sired by the gay young "Nimrod," owned by Luther LORD. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 South Wallingford 8/2/1889 Randolph BULLOCK is quite ill. About fifty persons attended Barnum, last week, from our neighborhood. The Misses WOOD, of Orwell, visited at D. W. MAXHAM's, last week. Mrs. Frank EDMONDS entertained friends from Rutland, a few days since; viz., Mrs. L. V. GREEN and children. The Misses MATTISON, of North Bennington, have been stopping at E. FULLERS. Mrs. S. M. SHERMAN recently received the sad intelligence of the sudden death in Rutland, of her cousin's husband--Freemont GOULD. We sympathize with the stricken young wife. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Woodstock 8/2/1889 A small party of young men went to Pico, fishing, Tuesday. Elton SMITH of Savannah, Ga., has rejoined his family here. Fred MERRILLS has sold the Eagle hotel and returned to his cottage on Pleasant street. The hotel is under the management of Arthur WILDER, and giving good satisfaction. A tally-ho party of 17 persons went to Norwich, last Thursday, and returned Friday. A large number of summer boarders are here. Hon. Justin F. MacKENZIE died Thursday morning of last week. His funeral was held Saturday afternoon, and was attended by a large concourse of friends and citizens. Andrew W. ELLIOTT died Monday, age 83 years. He came to town with Solomon WOODWARD, in 1847. The Woodstock cornet band has been engaged for the Windsor County Fair. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

Sally, Sorry to disappoint you, but I really don't have any real knowledge. I just sort of picked Wisconsin out of mid air, I could have easily written Chicago or Iowa. In reading these papers there seem to be quite a few who visit "the West" and also many from states to the west who come to Vermont to visit, many after very long absences. Ruth Ruth, I would love it if you would comment re the man who had a party for his forty-first birthday, not his fortieth when he may have been sick or "off visiting in Wisconsin". I'm particularly interested in what you may know re the relationship between Vermonters and Wisconsin. My maternal grandfather's roots are deep in southern Vermont, yet his father, Leslie, was born in Wisconsin. Leslie's father, Lewis, had an uncle and other family members in Wisconsin, which is probably why they went. Any light you could shed re Vermonters moving to Wisconsin would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Sally in Western MA -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

As far as I have found, my Vermont ancestors were some of the few Vermont men to not serve in the Civil War. But my great-grandfather and his brother were both born during it, and they fit the pattern Darrell discusses very well too. Their various families had lived in Vermont for 4-6 generations, but both of them left when they turned 18. Their parents remained until they died. My great-grand-uncle and his wife retired to the town where my great-grand-uncle had been born, Norwich, after over 50 years working in other states. He died just a few years later. One generation at a time, the families had stopped farming. I think my great-grandfather and his brother probably sized up the possibilities for them if they stayed and decided to take their chances elsewhere. Liz Loveland

On 2/26/2012 5:23 PM, HarrietM Chase wrote: > Hi, I am not Ruth > But have a bit of an answer for you as to why Vermonters ended up in > Wisconsin. > About mid-1850s, there was quite an exodus from>>>> the West, because the > farmlands here were deemed used up and also considered getting overly > populated ;) > I bet Darrell Martin could give us more actual facts on that. > As a matter of fact, I think there is a "Vermontville, Wisconsin" > > I do know one family which I have studied quite a bit& large family, the > Parish family mostly all moved to Wisconsin (some to Texas) > > I'm in Randolph, Vermont > Harriet Chase Hi: I am Darrell ::grin:: and my impression is that Vermont from 1850 to 1890 simply produced more children than the economy could employ. The Merino sheep boom was over, and the state's agriculture had moved to dairy farming, but that in itself would not cause people to emigrate. The blunt fact is, in an economy that depended on 19th Century farming, 340,000 was about as many people as the state could support. The greatest non-economic impact on Vermont population before 1889 was the Civil War. There were three interrelated effects. First, the casualty rate for Vermont was horrendous. Figures differ, but according to Coffin's "Full Duty", Vermont ranked first among Union states in per capita men killed in combat; and was second only to Michigan in men who died in service overall. Moreover, "Of those spared to return home, nearly all came back wounded, and many maimed for life." Second, the debt taken on by Vermont government at all levels to fund the war was crushing. If I recall correctly, my home town of Springfield retired its last Civil War bonds within my lifetime. Third, service far from New England opened the eyes of many Vermont soldiers to opportunities other than the Green Mountains when the war was over. With taxes high and -- probably more importantly -- most agricultural situations already taken, someone with a choice in where they lived would have plenty of reasons to go west. The Federal Census tells an interesting story, which is *not* as simple as "men didn't come home from the war". Here are the Vermont totals for a few years: 1850-307,276 1860-315,098 1870-330,551 1880-332,286 1890-332,422. From 1850 to 1890 Vermont's population increased by 8.2%. The national increase was 171.4%. ------------- As far as I know there are three Vermontvilles in the U.S.A.: one in New York, one in Washington, and one in Michigan. I drive through Vermontville, Mich. each time I visit family in the Detroit suburbs. The annual maple syrup festival there is a pretty big deal. For what it is worth, there is even a Vermont in Australia. It is a suburb of Melbourne, so it is *not* in the New England region of Australia, which is in New South Wales north of Sydney. Darrell

Hi, I am not Ruth But have a bit of an answer for you as to why Vermonters ended up in Wisconsin. About mid-1850s, there was quite an exodus from >>>> the West, because the farmlands here were deemed used up and also considered getting overly populated ;) I bet Darrell Martin could give us more actual facts on that. As a matter of fact, I think there is a "Vermontville, Wisconsin" I do know one family which I have studied quite a bit & large family, the Parish family mostly all moved to Wisconsin (some to Texas) I'm in Randolph, Vermont Harriet Chase

Ruth, I would love it if you would comment re the man who had a party for his forty-first birthday, not his fortieth when he may have been sick or "off visiting in Wisconsin". I'm particularly interested in what you may know re the relationship between Vermonters and Wisconsin. My maternal grandfather's roots are deep in southern Vermont, yet his father, Leslie, was born in Wisconsin. Leslie's father, Lewis, had an uncle and other family members in Wisconsin, which is probably why they went. Any light you could shed re Vermonters moving to Wisconsin would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Sally in Western MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <mrgjb@sover.net> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:50 PM Subject: [VERMONT] Socially active in 1889 > Sylvia, Yes, I sometimes wonder if they EVER stayed to home. When we > think of "the old days" we tend to think of "nose to the grindstone, > shoulder to the wheel, work from dawn to dusk with never any rest or > recreation" but those folks were always on the go. And PARTY, why they > partied at the drop of a hat! The other day I read one where they had a > big party for some guy's forty-first birthday, not fortieth, but > forty-first! Well, maybe he was sick on his fortieth, or off visiting in > Wisconsin. Ruth > > PS: Glad you enjoy them, I do too. > > Good morning, > > Does anyone else marvel at how socially active and how well traveled > the people of Vermont were in 1889. Travel must not have been easy and > yet they are everywhere doing everything all the time. It is truly > amazing to me. I enjoy these glimpses into the past. It helps me > understand who my grandparents and great grandparents and family > really were and how come they met when they lived such great distances > from each other. > > Thanks again Ruth and others for all your hard work! > > Sylvia T. > -- > Ruth Barton > mrgjb@sover.net > Dummerston, VT > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.927 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4209 - Release Date: 02/14/12 02:34:00

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Bridgewater 8/2/1889 L. E. WEYMOUTH returned to Boston, Monday of last week. Jonathan ALEXANDER, who has been sick for a long time, is rapidly failing, and is expected to live but a few days at the longest. O. F. WASHBURN, agent for a gold company, has found a rich vein of gold-bearing quartz on the farm of Royal PERKINS. E. B. BRANCH of Springfield, Mass., has moved into one of A. SARGENT's tenements, at the Corners. Quite a number of our citizens contemplate attending the camp-meeting to be held at Bethel, Aug. 20th and over the following Sabbath. A goodly number of our farmers, especially on hill farms, have hardly made a mark in their hay-fields, on account of wet weather. Mr. and Mrs. Edgar ALLEN are visiting Mrs. ALLEN's parents, at the Center. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Plymouth Five Corners 8/2/1889 E. E. CARPENTER has been at home, recently, for a week's visit. He is preaching in Wells. Grandma BUTLER has gone to her son Fred's, in Frog City. (Where is/was Frog City? RHB) Maynard BROWN and family have returned to the old farm long enough to cut the hay. Adelbert ARCHER recently saw a deer crossing C. WHEELER's mowing. L. W. WILDER and wife have lately been in town, attending to the setting of a monument at Mrs. TRUDO's grave. This is no kind of a place for showmen, as HOWARD, the old-lime drummer boy, learned, last week, having an audience of twenty, we hear. Poor--very poor--hay weather! Some were hoping for a change for the better, with the advent of "dog-days," but it keeps on "just the same." A very few have finished haying. They are a lucky minority. Miss Ina SARGENT has been quite ill for a week past, but is now somewhat better. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Rutland 8/2/1889 Arthur H. BLYTHE, a former resident here, has been arrested on a charge of bigamy, at Springfield, Mass. BLYTHE claims he wasn't married to the woman he lived with when here. General RIPLEY and Judge VEAZEY have gone to Canada on salmon-fishing excursions. A. G. COOLEDGE and wife have gone to Old Orchard Beach, Me., for a brief vacation. It has been decided to extend Robbins street from Baxter to Willard, provided land damages are waived. Francis McGUIRK went on duty as mail-carrier, August 1st, in place of carrier FLYNN. He has the outer districts, and will have a horse and wagon to do the business with. The first of a series of entertainments to be given at Odd Fellows' Hall by Canton Rutland occurred Wednesday evening. Deputy Grand Master C. F. EDDY of Bennington was present and delivered an address. Rev. C. A. REESE of the Baptist church, is taking a three weeks vacation, being in poor health. Considerable indignation was caused, last Sunday, by the neglect of a car-load of calves that were brought into the B. & R. road yard and the evident intention of leaving them without feed until Monday or even later. On complaint to the local officer of the society for prevention of cruelty to animals, the calves were let out and fed. Another car-load--the sixth-- of fresh-air children from New York passed here last Saturday en route for the north part of the state. It is probable the Episcopal church land will be taken for school purposes by legal process, which will compel the society to accept the appraised value of the land. Business at the scale works was never better. There are now 300 names on the pay-roll, and frequent additions are being made. Joseph G. BURPEE was acquitted, last Friday, of the charge of selling liquor contrary to law. It is estimated that 15,000 people "took in" Barnum's circus, Thursday of last week, at this place. Alvin ARNOLD was for the second time arrested for assaulting his wife, Tuesday, and held in $200 bonds for trial at county court. The new stalls at the fair grounds will consume 60,000 feet of lumber and raise the capacity of the grounds to accommodation of 800 horses. The street railway have added several open cars to their outfit. The HERALD's mowing-machine contest, set for today (Thursday) at the CAIN farm, north of the city, is "postponed on account of the weather"--if the past week's state of things can be called weather. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Mechanicsville 8/2/1889 Mrs. Frank FROST has gone to Canada to visit her parents. Mr. and Mrs. Clark MARSHALL are visiting in Bellows Falls. Will COLE has gone to West Roxbury, Mass., to work in a provision store. Arrivals: T. P. FROST, wife and two children, from Brooklyn, N. Y., at Mrs. A. LIVINGSTON's; Mrs. B. FENN from Boston at Wm. KNIGHT's; Mr. and Mrs. John MEADE from Boston at George MEADE's; Rev. Lewis TUCKER and wife at S. TUCKER's; Mr. and Mrs. E. L. TEMPLE , son and daughter, Mrs. W. N. COLLINS, Geo. E. GRAVES, two sons and daughter, from Rutland, at the hotel; J. A. WHITNEY from Burlington at the hotel; the Misses BIRD from Waltham, Mass., at Fred PARMENTER's. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Mount Holly 8/2/1889 John and Celia KELLY of Rutland spent the Sabbath with their parents, Mr. and Mrs. P. KELLY. Mrs. AMES of South Wallingford is now stopping with her daughter, Mrs. J. B. ROWE. Miss Mabel ACKLEY has been visiting in Rutland for a week past. Miss Ada RANDALL and Mrs. E. RANDALL went to Keene, N.H., Tuesday. Miss Mary Ann STEWART is at home from Rutland on a vacation. John GIBSON and Miss Rose FLETCHER are now under the doctor's care. Mr. an Mrs. Hiram HEATH and niece, Miss Elvira SMITH of Newton, N. H., visited at George GOODRICH's last week. John LYON of New York will occupy the Baptist pulpit next Sabbath. Miss Blanche PRATT attended the teachers' examination held at Rutland, last week. It is reported that Miss Minnie PHELAN is to teach in district No. 2; Miss Fannie ROUNDS in No. 5; and Miss Sarah TOOHEY in Bowlville. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 2, 1889 Sherburne 8/2/1889 Mrs. RAY, from the Far West, is visiting in tow. It is 23 years since they left. She holds he own in weight--about 200 pounds. They formerly lived in Mendon, also here. Abby ADAMS is at home sick with typhoid fever; also, Amanda COLTON is on the sick-list at Pittsford. Herbert BATES and wife, teachers, of Brooklyn on Long Island, N. Y., are spending their vacation among their connections here and at Pittsfield, where their mother resides. Hay has been sold, standing, for $5 per ton. If there is no change in the weather, wait a month and you can buy it for nothing. Ira P. SHAW has been moved home, but is very feeble. The rich old lady who prayed it might rain so the poor hired men could rest, probably has moved away or not heard from this season; therefore rest can be obtained without infringing upon nights and Sundays. Some who keep account of the weather say there has been five days in July that it did not rain. If there is any dispute, arbitration is recommended. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Monday, June 18, 1928. FL0RENCE. Mr.and Mrs. Jesse J. Howland of Orange, Cal., who have been visiting at the home of his sister, Mrs. Henry Landon, the past few weeks, expect to start on the return trip June 20, going by way of Minnesota and visiting relatives there. They made the trip of 430 miles by auto. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Monday June 18, 1928. BENSON. Carolyn H. Hyde of Benson receives the degree of bachelor of science in home economics at the University of Vermont this year. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby