Hi: ==================== Joan Bixby started all this with a seemingly innocuous transcription (thank you Joan!!): -------------------- Source, The Brandon (Vt) Post--Thurs. July 11, 1850. DIED. In Perkinsville, on the 5th ult., Capt. Ephraim S. Martin, aged 66. -------------------- From this we glean the following facts. 1. Someone at the Brandon newspaper thought the death in Perkinsville, on the other side of Vermont, was worthy of note. This is not some ne'er-do-well vagrant. 2. The death is reported as occurring 5 Jun 1850 (5th ult. means the 5th day of the previous month). 3. The deceased is reported to be 66 years old, putting his birth between 6 Jun 1783 and 5 Jun 1784, inclusive, if exactly correct. 4. The deceased is given a military title. In 1850, this would have suggested one of the following, although other possibilities exist: -- he was a member, active or former, of the Vermont militia. -- he was a veteran of the Mexican war (1846-1848) during which he would have been in his early 60s; possible, but unlikely. -- he was a veteran of the War of 1812 (1812-1814) during which he would have been in his late 20s or early 30s, "perfect" for a man holding the rank of captain. -- he was a veteran of the Revolution, but this is not possible since he was 2 months old when the Treaty of Paris was signed. ==================== From the 1850 Mortality Schedule of the US Census (Index, not original record) -------------------- Surname: Ephraim S. Martin [sic] Year: 1850 County: Windsor CO. State: VT Age: 67 Gender: M (Male) Month of Death: Jun State of Birth: MA ID#: MRT197_205342 Occupation: FARMER ------------------- This agrees with the newspaper in all details except his age is stated as 67, the newspaper says 66. We learn that he was born in Massachusetts, and that his occupation was farming. =================== 1840 US Census There are two households headed by an Ephraim Martin in this census, in Vermont. They are: ------------------- Ephraim Martin - Springfield - 7 persons total, there is one adult male, he is aged 60-69. The one adult female is aged 50-59. Ephraim S. Martin - Baltimore - 3 persons total, there is one adult male, he is aged 50-59. With him were 1 FWF age 5-9, and 1 FWF age 30-39, 1 person engaged in agriculture. The record is very clearly written -- all census takers should be so neat! A Horace M. Martin was enumerated on the next line (entries are in no discernible order), a FWM 20-29. =================== History of Springfield, Vermont Vol. I Article on "North Springfield" pg. 54 ------------------- In a description of the location and occupants of various dwellings, written during 1881-1883, is, "Farther up the hill is the farm known as the Burbank place. This house was built by Luther Lockwood.... Paul Haywood ... built the next house, occupied afterward by Ephraim Martin." ------------------- This is the only mention of the name in the index of this history. One would expect more if he had been a Revolutionary War veteran. However, a known Rev War veteran of Springfield, Joseph Hodgman, Jr., is not mentioned in the index at all even though he held town office and is buried there. =================== US Military Pension records Pension certificate 40978 ------------------- A Sergeant Ephraim Martin of Vermont, a Revolutionary War veteran, received payments continuously from 1818 to 1833. He is shown as dying in 1833. His pension application was attested apparently in Baltimore 14 Apr 1818. He is said to have been aged 74, a resident of Springfield; his then wife Jerusha was age 65. ------------------- It is tempting to speculate that Sgt. Martin may have been visiting relatives in Baltimore in 1818. Perhaps he was even living there, but still considered a "resident" of Springfield. However, another even simpler explanation is that Baltimore is where the judge was that day, and it was convenient to go there -- especially if Martin's residence was, as likely, in North Springfield. ================== To be continued ... Darrell

I found a Martin genealogy in the "ESSEX Genealogist" vol 5 pg 75 pub 1985 John S. Martin m Jane Durkee 1710...6 children, the 4th Joshua b 1717...who m#1 Sarah Storey m#2 Elizabeth Knowlton, m#3 Charlotte X by Sarah, Ephraim bap 23 Feb 1745/6..... by Elizabeth, Elizabeth 1753, Jane 1754, Mary 1761 There were 3 Sarah Storey's in Ipswitch! We know where Ephraim got the (Story) middle name, but I can't find it in print! Everyone online says his 11 children were all b Lunenburg. the History of Lunenburg, but it stops in 1754 I don't seem to find Lunenburg vitals. Family not in Fitchburg either..... WHERE are they getting the info? The History of Springfield Vt.....starts with Dexter Martin b 1809 Nothing on Weathersfield History...supposedly Ephraim left MA in 1797 to settle there.

On 3/8/2012 7:16 AM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: > Darrell, > > Taking a quick look at this this AM there were a lot of Martins with similar names even in the 1800 - 1900 era must be a large overall tree. > > The Martin in my tree is Eugene Ray Martin b Derby in 1890 has Canadian ancestry. If I have this correct his father was Jacob, grandfather Albert L Martin of Canada. Eugene married a cousin of my father's > > Sylvia Sylvia: My Martin ancestry, before my great-great grandfather Oliver Martin (January 1838 French Canada - 12 August 1917 Shaftsbury) <http://darrell-martin.net/genealogy/p33.htm> is frankly a mixture of speculation, family stories, legends, myths, and lies. I keep looking. It keeps getting worse. Every little scrap of information seems to contradict every other one. Oh well, keeps it interesting. Darrell

I bet that poor lady couldn't keep a THING "down," poor dear. They do have anti-emetics these days......luckily. -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Faye Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:56 AM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting I can remember obits listing cause of death back in the 50s-60s too maybe.. Not sure when or why that dropped out of them. My great aunt's cause of death was listed as "vomiting and starvation of pregnancy" back in 1905. Seems that too might not be the case these days. Faye ---- Mary Anne Smith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> wrote: > We have to remember that these people didn't have TV, or even radio, then. > The word of mouth "news" was all they had to entertain themselves with!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Ruth Barton > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:39 AM > To: vermont@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting > > I just find these type of items interesting/ amusing now, 120 plus years > later, as things have changed so much. Such a thing would NEVER be put in > a modern day newspaper, they don't even publish about suicide these days, > if it can be avoided. Sometimes it is so well known that it is > unavoidable. One of my ggrandmother's brothers hung himself and it was put > right on the front page of the paper, in plain English. A few years ago > the Reformer had an anniversary during which they published reprints of > old front pages and there it was. I had never known about this until I saw > it in that paper. > > Of course this man had no idea that all these years later this is what he > will be noted for. Ruth > > > > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, July 26, 1889 > > > A. MADDEN has had another attack of vomiting, but is better at present > > writing. (I'm sure his fellow townspeople were eager to hear this > > IMPORTANT news. RHB) > > > -- > Ruth Barton > mrgjb@sover.net > Dummerston, VT > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/8/2012 6:49 AM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: ... > Taking another look at this it seems there must have been many > Ephraim Martins living in that era ... Sylvia: I agree; even with the middle name "Story" to go on, it does not reduce the confusion much. It may even make it worse. In particular, I find it hard to reconcile the newspaper article's report of "Captain" Martin's age at death, with the idea that he was the Rev War soldier who served in the Vermont militia. (It is clear that the Rev War pensioner who served with the Massachusetts Line died in 1833.) But I cannot find an Ephraim Martin in the War of 1812 lists that are online. Too much fun. My interest in this will continue because of the connection with Springfield. Anybody connected with my home town is automatically on my genealogical radar. Darrell

Sylvia Its good it all worked out for you and thanks for adding some information to the little I have about her. We have yet to find out what happened to her baby, if it survived or if Emma died before she delivered... So I am glad you and yours made it! Again thanks for sharing Faye ---- Sylvia Tucker <papagran@comcast.net> wrote: > Faye, this is Interesting to me because > > I was hospitalized with my first child with "severe hyperemesis gravidarum" also known as "pernicious vomiting. " > > Hyperemesis gravidarum is the Latin for excessive vomiting in pregnancy. > > Severe hyperemesis gravidarum may call for intravenous fluid and nutrition. > > I had to be on IV. it was almost Christmas. I was very distressed and worried about the baby but the doctor said he was more worried about me that I was in danger not the baby. > > Sylvia > > > > On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Faye wrote: > > > I can remember obits listing cause of death back in the 50s-60s too maybe.. > > Not sure when or why that dropped out of them. > > My great aunt's cause of death was listed as "vomiting and starvation of pregnancy" back in 1905. Seems that too might not be the case these days. > > Faye > > > > ---- Mary Anne Smith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> wrote: > >> We have to remember that these people didn't have TV, or even radio, then. > >> The word of mouth "news" was all they had to entertain themselves with!!!! > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > >> Behalf Of Ruth Barton > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:39 AM > >> To: vermont@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting > >> > >> I just find these type of items interesting/ amusing now, 120 plus years > >> later, as things have changed so much. Such a thing would NEVER be put in > >> a modern day newspaper, they don't even publish about suicide these days, > >> if it can be avoided. Sometimes it is so well known that it is > >> unavoidable. One of my ggrandmother's brothers hung himself and it was put > >> right on the front page of the paper, in plain English. A few years ago > >> the Reformer had an anniversary during which they published reprints of > >> old front pages and there it was. I had never known about this until I saw > >> it in that paper. > >> > >> Of course this man had no idea that all these years later this is what he > >> will be noted for. Ruth > >> > >> > >>> The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, July 26, 1889 > >> > >>> A. MADDEN has had another attack of vomiting, but is better at present > >>> writing. (I'm sure his fellow townspeople were eager to hear this > >>> IMPORTANT news. RHB) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ruth Barton > >> mrgjb@sover.net > >> Dummerston, VT > >> *************************************** > >> List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > >> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> *************************************** > >> List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > >> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 Spafford 8/23/1889 J. McDUFFEE has gone to Lyndonville for a vacation of one or two months. Misses Mattie and Henrietta SPAFFORD, from Rutland, are visiting their cousin, Miss Gertie MARSH, this week. Chas. GRAVES from Yonkers, N. Y., arrived at his father-in-law's (J. L. BEMIS), the 21st, to spend a few days vacation. His wife and one son have been stopping here for six or eight weeks. L. R. WARREN is taking a week's vacation with his son Willie WARREN, at Brattleboro. Francis PRESTON of Baltimore took the train her, Wednesday, for Kansas, prospecting. he will be gone one or two months. A. STANLEY has just delivered at this station two carloads of large maple logs, running from 20 inches in diameter and upwards. They are to be used for print rollers, and are worth $14 per 1,000 feet. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 Chester 8/23/1889 That pest of the hen-roost, the chicken thef, has been raiding the poultry-yards of some of our citizens, and carrying off the best of their turkeys. While certain individuals from a neighboring town are visiting in the vicinity, it may be well for poultrymen to see that their flocks roost high, out of the reach of the petty pilferer. Mrs. H. L. HOLDEN is spending a week with friends in Bennington. Mr. and Mrs. DAY of Rochester, N.Y., are spending some weeks here, guests of Mr. and Mrs. Geo. ALLEN. A. E. BALL of Jackson, Mich., was entertained by Oscar MILLER, last Friday and Saturday, while returning to his home from Boston. Mrs. Lottie POLLARD of Nehawka, Neb., has been visiting in town. Miss Mary WILLARD of Hartland, after spending some days with her friend, Lillian POLLARD, went to Burlington, Tuesday. Mrs. SMITH and daughter, of Leavett, Mass., are visiting relatives here. Mr. and Mrs. Will DAVIS are to be congratulated on the advent of a fine girl baby, Monday, the 19th. Also Mr. and Mrs. John ABBOTT for the birth of a fine boy on the same date. Miss Nellie WINCHESTER of Lynn, Mass., is visiting at Barney COOK's. Rev. H. B. TILDEN started Monday, for the lake region of Maine, where he will spend his vacation. Rev. Henry SLACK and family, now of Bethel, Conn., have been spending some days with his former parishoners here. Miss Abby BALDWIN of Ludlow, with her friend Miss ADAMS of Boston, called on relatives here, Tuesday. Mr. and Mrs. John LOONEY of Burlington are visiting their parents, Mr. and Mrs. Patrick LOONEY. George KELLY and family, of Brooklyn, N. Y., are guests of Mrs. FITCH, mother of Miss KELLY. H. B. BOOTH is the owner of one of the finest carriage horses in town, lately purchased by him of Mr. WOOD of Townshend. The family of G. F. HADLEY returned from their vacation trip, Wednesday. Miss Ada TAYLOR of Ludlow, is the guest of her friend Miss May CHRISTIE this week. Miss Fanny WARD, a former school teacher here, who has been visiting with Miss Belle RAYMINGTON, unfortunately lost her portemonaie while going to the Depot, Wednesday evening. It contained about eight dollars, and at this writing (Thursday, a. m.) has not been found. A lodge of I. O. O. F. was organized here, Wednesday evening. Members of the order were present from Rutland and other towns in the vicinity. Mrs. MACOMBER of Uxbridge, Mass., is the guest of her sister, Mrs. P. L. WESTON. The Cantata of the "Flower Queen," under direction of Prof. James M. TRACY of Boston, will be given a the town hall in Chester, Tuesday evening next. A rare entertainment is in store for those who may attend, as Mr. TRACY has devoted much time and talent to the training of the signers who will take part in the performance. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 Amsden 8/23/1889 Miss Esther SQUIRE and Miss Bessie TUCKER, from Boston, are at H. R. SQUIRE's. Prentice WHITE and wife, from Brooklyn, N. Y., are boarding at Downers'. Clint PERRY has been over from Claremont, stopping a few days with his wife, who is at his father's and is quite poorly in health. T. B. LANE has returned to Lowell, Mass., with his niece, who has been stopping with him for several weeks. F. S. ADAMS and mfamily, from Boston, are visiting friends in this vicinity. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 North Springfield 8/23/1889 Royal KEITH and wife, of Dudley, Mass., are visiting some of their relatives here. We noticed in the last issue of the TRIBUNE that our brother scribe at Spafford had been improving some of his leisure moments in reading up the postal laws. But the section to which he referred had no bearing on the case he mentioned. If he will read along to section 810, he will find something applicable to the matter referred to. The item last week which read "F. O. MARSH" should have read "F. O. NASH." Quite a number from this place have gone to Claremont, to the camp-meeting, this week. Our boys played the Perkinsvilles a ball game at that place, last Saturday, the score being 16 to 22, in favor of the Perkinvilles. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 Perkinsville 8/23/1889 Royal E. WYMAN has bought Dr. MARDEN's place, and the doctor has moved into Horage M. MARTIN's brick house, nearly opposite the post-office. John SWAIN, from the West, is visiting his cousin, Lynus PRATT. Mary WHEELER is visiting her brother Daniel, at Saxtons River. George HOPKINSON is visiting at West Wardsboro; Charlie PAYNE at Chester. Dr. Herbert CHILSON is at his mother's. Capt. KENNEY told us, last Thursday, that 17 guests had left his house during the week, and that there were more to follow. WE believe the JOURNAL stated that he had entertained 26 recent visitors. Miss Lillie NEWHALL, a teacher in Rockville, Conn., has spent a few days in this place, visiting old friends and pupils. Miss Fannie L. DAVIS, daughter of Gen. Geo. F. DAVIS of Cavendish, for several years past a teacher in the High school at Woodstock, and recently elected as a teacher in the Vermont Academy, taught her first term of school in Perkinsville--the fall term of 1880. Mrs. F. S. ALFORD is visiting in Ware, Mass. Ned RUGG is home from his two weeks visit in Hartland. Rev. Mr. RUGG supplied at the State prison, Aug. 4th and 18th, for Chaplain WASSALL, who is in Europe. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, August 23, 1889 Felchville 8/23/1889 Hon. Thomas CURLEY, wife and two children, of Waltham, Mass., spent part of last week with their parents here, returning on Monday. charles, Elmer and Bert WHEELER spent last Thursday night on Mount Ascutney; but, as usual, it set in for a rainy night, and they came home without seeing the sun rise. Walter and Will PARKER are home form Boston, at their father's (L. F. PARKER), for two weeks vacation. Blackberries are so plenty they have been selling for 4 cents a quart. col. SWAIN and wife, from Nebraska, are at their cousin's--Mrs. James STEARNS. Jesse L. PAINE stopped here for two or three days, on his way from Woodstock to Fitchburg, Mass., where he goes in search of work. M. A. DAVIS is still confined to the house by a bronchial difficulty. M. A. DAVIS is still confined to the house. Samuel STEWART has been granted a pension of $10 per month and about $1,000 arrears. It will be remembered that some years ago his pension was stopped by parties through malice; but a special examiner restored it with $4 more per month, which proves that he was justly entitled to it in the first place. C. N. HOOK and family are visiting in Cornwall. William WHITAKER has bought the house now occupied by Elwin KENDALL, but will not take possession until April. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT

Faye, this is Interesting to me because I was hospitalized with my first child with "severe hyperemesis gravidarum" also known as "pernicious vomiting. " Hyperemesis gravidarum is the Latin for excessive vomiting in pregnancy. Severe hyperemesis gravidarum may call for intravenous fluid and nutrition. I had to be on IV. it was almost Christmas. I was very distressed and worried about the baby but the doctor said he was more worried about me that I was in danger not the baby. Sylvia On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Faye wrote: > I can remember obits listing cause of death back in the 50s-60s too maybe.. > Not sure when or why that dropped out of them. > My great aunt's cause of death was listed as "vomiting and starvation of pregnancy" back in 1905. Seems that too might not be the case these days. > Faye > > ---- Mary Anne Smith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> wrote: >> We have to remember that these people didn't have TV, or even radio, then. >> The word of mouth "news" was all they had to entertain themselves with!!!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Ruth Barton >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:39 AM >> To: vermont@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting >> >> I just find these type of items interesting/ amusing now, 120 plus years >> later, as things have changed so much. Such a thing would NEVER be put in >> a modern day newspaper, they don't even publish about suicide these days, >> if it can be avoided. Sometimes it is so well known that it is >> unavoidable. One of my ggrandmother's brothers hung himself and it was put >> right on the front page of the paper, in plain English. A few years ago >> the Reformer had an anniversary during which they published reprints of >> old front pages and there it was. I had never known about this until I saw >> it in that paper. >> >> Of course this man had no idea that all these years later this is what he >> will be noted for. Ruth >> >> >>> The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, July 26, 1889 >> >>> A. MADDEN has had another attack of vomiting, but is better at present >>> writing. (I'm sure his fellow townspeople were eager to hear this >>> IMPORTANT news. RHB) >> >> >> -- >> Ruth Barton >> mrgjb@sover.net >> Dummerston, VT >> *************************************** >> List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm >> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> *************************************** >> List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm >> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can remember obits listing cause of death back in the 50s-60s too maybe.. Not sure when or why that dropped out of them. My great aunt's cause of death was listed as "vomiting and starvation of pregnancy" back in 1905. Seems that too might not be the case these days. Faye ---- Mary Anne Smith <momsmith@fnwusers.com> wrote: > We have to remember that these people didn't have TV, or even radio, then. > The word of mouth "news" was all they had to entertain themselves with!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Ruth Barton > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:39 AM > To: vermont@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting > > I just find these type of items interesting/ amusing now, 120 plus years > later, as things have changed so much. Such a thing would NEVER be put in > a modern day newspaper, they don't even publish about suicide these days, > if it can be avoided. Sometimes it is so well known that it is > unavoidable. One of my ggrandmother's brothers hung himself and it was put > right on the front page of the paper, in plain English. A few years ago > the Reformer had an anniversary during which they published reprints of > old front pages and there it was. I had never known about this until I saw > it in that paper. > > Of course this man had no idea that all these years later this is what he > will be noted for. Ruth > > > > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, July 26, 1889 > > > A. MADDEN has had another attack of vomiting, but is better at present > > writing. (I'm sure his fellow townspeople were eager to hear this > > IMPORTANT news. RHB) > > > -- > Ruth Barton > mrgjb@sover.net > Dummerston, VT > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Darrell, Taking a quick look at this this AM there were a lot of Martins with similar names even in the 1800 - 1900 era must be a large overall tree. The Martin in my tree is Eugene Ray Martin b Derby in 1890 has Canadian ancestry. If I have this correct his father was Jacob, grandfather Albert L Martin of Canada. Eugene married a cousin of my father's Sylvia On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Darrell A. Martin wrote: > On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: >> there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth >> >> one tree says >> >> this man was father to >> Haskell C Martin >> >> Born: Jan 1825 >> Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 >> Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA >> >> hope that helps > > Sylvia: > > I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt > mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I > emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at > all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. > Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. > > Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell > Martin's father? > > In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) > Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in > the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. > served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received > a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev > War, and did not receive a pension. > > By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from > Quebec around the time of the Civil War. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I recently joined Ancestry after many years away from it there are a great deal more trees and much more options for data than there used to be, unfortunately this seems to only have added to the confusion. Taking another look at this it seems there must have been many Ephraim Martins living in that era The info on the tree I mentioned which I picked because it seemed to be more complete than many others, states Married to Susanna Boynton and gives one source U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index Surname: Ephraim S. Martin Year: 1850 County: Windsor CO. State: VT Age: 67 Gender: M (Male) Month of Death: Jun State of Birth: MA ID#: MRT197_205342 Occupation: FARMER On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Darrell A. Martin wrote: > On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: >> there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth >> >> one tree says >> >> this man was father to >> Haskell C Martin >> >> Born: Jan 1825 >> Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 >> Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA >> >> hope that helps > > Sylvia: > > I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt > mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I > emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at > all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. > Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. > > Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell > Martin's father? > > In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) > Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in > the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. > served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received > a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev > War, and did not receive a pension. > > By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from > Quebec around the time of the Civil War. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My gggrandmother was Polly Martin, born to Ephraim,b. 1745,d.1833 in Baltimore, Vt. and married to Mary Burnham. He was a Sargent in the Revolutionary War from Mass. I thought I had more info on him but am unable to locate it at this time. Polly was born in Luneburg in 1773. Who the one was who died in 1850, I have no record of. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julanne Sharrow" <julanne@vermontel.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 4:43:22 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Two 1850 Deaths Am working on the Ephraim Story Martin family and am completly baffled... Ephraim Story Martin b 23 Feb 1745 Ipswich d 8 Aug 1833 Springfield VT Ephraim Story Martin Jr b 10 Jun 1777 Lunenburg d 6 Feb 1842 Springfield VT Ephraim Dexter Martin d 1880 Springfield WHO would be Ephraim S. Martin d 1850? On Mar 5, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Joan Bixby wrote: > Source, The Brandon (Vt) Post--Thurs. July 11, 1850. > > DIED. > > In Perkinsville, on the 5th ult., Capt. Ephraim S. Martin, aged 66. > > Transcribed by, > Joan H. Bixby *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have to remember that these people didn't have TV, or even radio, then. The word of mouth "news" was all they had to entertain themselves with!!!! -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Barton Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:39 AM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: [VERMONT] attack of vomiting I just find these type of items interesting/ amusing now, 120 plus years later, as things have changed so much. Such a thing would NEVER be put in a modern day newspaper, they don't even publish about suicide these days, if it can be avoided. Sometimes it is so well known that it is unavoidable. One of my ggrandmother's brothers hung himself and it was put right on the front page of the paper, in plain English. A few years ago the Reformer had an anniversary during which they published reprints of old front pages and there it was. I had never known about this until I saw it in that paper. Of course this man had no idea that all these years later this is what he will be noted for. Ruth > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, July 26, 1889 > A. MADDEN has had another attack of vomiting, but is better at present > writing. (I'm sure his fellow townspeople were eager to hear this > IMPORTANT news. RHB) -- Ruth Barton mrgjb@sover.net Dummerston, VT *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/7/2012 7:17 PM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: > there seems to be some confusion over this person on Ancestry these two seem on some trees to be the same person some say 1777 some 1783 for birth > > one tree says > > this man was father to > Haskell C Martin > > Born: Jan 1825 > Baldwinsville, Vermont, USA Died: 2 Apr 1903 > Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA > > hope that helps Sylvia: I take Ancestry family trees with a grain of salt. OK, the whole salt mine. And that includes the one *I* posted! ;) That is why I emphasized actual records that I viewed myself. For example, I looked at all of the pension file images that Ancestry.com has for the Ephraim S. Martin who was a Rev War pensioner and died in 1833. Did that tree give any context for the Ephraim Martin who was Haskell Martin's father? In my opinion, it seem very likely that there were two Ephraim S(tory) Martins living in the Springfield / Baltimore / Weathersfield area in the first half of the 19th Century. One was father to the other. E.M.Sr. served with the Massachusetts Line of the Continental Army, and received a pension; E.M.Jr. served with the Vermont militia, also during the Rev War, and did not receive a pension. By the way, this is not my Martin line. My paternal ancestors came from Quebec around the time of the Civil War. Darrell

More to ponder, some of which has already been posted. Harriet Chase______ Ephraim Martin SAR Membership: 30536 Birth Date: 1745 Birth Place: Ipswich, Massachusetts Death Date: 1835 Death Place: Baltimore, Vermont Father: Joshua Martin Mother: Sarah Story Martin Spouse: Mary Burnham Martin Children: Ephraim Story Martin ________________ Name: Ephraim Story Martin SAR Membership: 30536 Father: Ephraim Martin Mother: Mary Burnham Martin Spouse: Susanna Boynton Martin Children: Horace Martin _________________________________ Ephraim Story Martin SAR Membership: 30536 Birth Date: 1783 Death Date: 1830 Spouse: Susanna Boynton Children: Lorinda B Woodward Martin __________________________ U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index about Ephraim S. Martin Surname: Ephraim S. Martin Year: 1850 County: Windsor CO. State: VT Age: 67 Gender: M (Male) Month of Death: Jun State of Birth: MA ID#: MRT197_205342 Occupation: FARMER ____________________________________ 1880 United States Federal Census about Ephraim Martin Name: Ephraim Martin Age: 71 Birth Year: abt 1809 Birthplace: Vermont Home in 1880: Bradford, Orange, Vermont Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: Vermont Mother's Birthplace: Vermont Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: On Town Farm Cannot read/write: Blind: Deaf and dumb: Otherwise disabled: Idiotic or insane: View image Household Members: Name Age Owen F. O Maley 51 Mary A. O Maley 40 Clarence W. O Maley 14 George W. O Maley 12 Nancy A. Martin 70 Ephraim Martin 71 Ira Clark 62 Mary Clark 64 Roselle Tuttle 30 Cara Tuttle 8 Willie Norcross 8 Frank Norcross 6 _______________________