List, My memory of Typhoid Mary is one from a report that earned me an A+ on a book report in the early 1950s. Mary Mallon was a particularly popular cook who had immigrated from Ireland as a teenager. At the time that she was (criminally) charged with being responsible for the death of a guest of her employer on Long Island, she had accompanied her employer`s family to a summer retreat there . Her employer having the confidence of her innocence continued to host lavish dinner parties. After one of the guests succumbed to what was called typhoid fever she was charged in the media and through them earned the misnomer of 'Typhoid Mary'. She was reluctantly dismissed by her employer and arrangements were made to have her supervised away from New York city. That supervision was no longer evident in 1906 and she changed her surname 'Mallon' to Brown and she re-entered the cooking field prior to World War One and she was judged as responsible for the ultimate deaths of three people in the New York courts. She was sentenced to a sanitarium but became a missing person after war was declared. The respite care communities that people were committed to were called asylums, retreats and in the case of health care facilities sometimes called sanitariums. Just after the turn of the century there were several asylums that became businesses . They were not regulated by most states and they were helpful in treating people in need. They were almost always held suspect by the communities that the were located in or near. Often times their existence was resolved by (vigilante-inspired) dwelling fires. These same solutions served to discourage poor-farms and typical community supported respite care institutions. As a young boy I heard rumors of three such places . One in St.Albans,VT; one in Pittsburg, NH ; and one in Waterbury, VT . I'm sure there were many others, but I am speaking about my memories and rumors from the WWII era. Doing near seventy in the Past Lane Dave **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Born 1844 in Enosburg. Shows in 1850 Newport VT census as Sanford Buttler, age 6. His father and mother having died in 1852 and 1856, respectively, he was in Orleans Probate Court 31 Dec 1861, as "A minor, Coventry, over 14 years of age, who chose Abram H.? Hancotte? to be his guardian." (I can't find a Hancotte in the 1860 or 1870 census, but I may have the name incorrect. Doesn't look like Marcotte.) He was in the Civil War as Orin S. Butler, a member of the 11th Regiment, Vermont Volunteers. He retired to Coventry by 1890. He died 5 Apr 1898 at age 53 yrs, 8 mos, 14 dys and was buried as Sanford O. Butler near his parents, Allen and Lauris (Lampher) Butler and his brother, Harman. Does anyone know of any other family members or of a Hancotte family? Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH

Of interest, perhaps - The Senator from Illinois, Stephen A. Douglas, to whom you refer is the same man who ran against Lincoln in the Presidential contest of 1860. Regards, Rachel **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

The earliest cases of typhoid pneumonia/fever, I was able to find dated back to November 7, 1845 when Thomas P. Burnett of Wisconsin died. The disease is caused from poor sanitary conditions such as the feces of an infected person. Many soldiers in the Mexican War died from it. Stephen Arnold Douglas born 1813 in Brandon and died of typhoid fever in 1860 in Cook County, Illinois. It would take some research but I wonder if there were places where the infected person was taken. I suspect that many died at home and that was why there was such an epidemic. Today, many who travel to 3rd world countries are vaccinated for it before they travel. Joyce -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of chip Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:32 PM To: vermont@rootsweb.com; quebec-research@rootsweb.com; QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com; butler@rootsweb.com; vtorlean@rootsweb.com Subject: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine? Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid. This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September. No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records. He is buried in Newport Center. I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Typhoid Mary wasn't until 1900. I think 1852 was too early to quarantine people for typhoid. Maybe your missing person was in a hospital in another state? Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriet Cady" <kd1843@verizon.net> Vicki, Do you remember the story of Typhoid Mary? Tht was told to me in science class in 7th grade and they certainly quartined the people but I don't know where. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine? Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid. This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September. No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records. He is buried in Newport Center. I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH

<Jack Gray <bobo4u63@yahoo.com>... 3 gr grandfather(William Smith Heaton) was brother to Orange Barber Heaton. Calvin Page Heaton) was born in Thetford, VT...> Hi Jack, Would you like me to transcribe the short military data that I have here on page 211 for Lt. William S. HEATON who died in Upper Canada of wounds on Nov. 19, 1813? He was not my ancestor. Happy searching, Jan Jordan

Weren't they called 'sanitariums'? -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:34 AM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: [VERMONT] "Typhoid Mary" Interesting Read Hello, The story of "Typhoid Mary" and her life after arriving in the U.S. is an interesting read. And, it includes her possible being born in Ireland with the "Typhoid" already hiding in her body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon She was sent to a hospital on an island in NY. Were there any hospitals in VT or NH that were on an island? Actually, as I type that, I remember that there were places in the history of the Prov. of Quebec where "people who were contagious" were sent to live. I can't think of the name of them at this moment. Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. I'll say this as gently as I can, but Mary MALLON was a good example of "people with problems" having the worse symptom of all - "total denial" that there is anything wrong with them. ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, The story of "Typhoid Mary" and her life after arriving in the U.S. is an interesting read. And, it includes her possible being born in Ireland with the "Typhoid" already hiding in her body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon She was sent to a hospital on an island in NY. Were there any hospitals in VT or NH that were on an island? Actually, as I type that, I remember that there were places in the history of the Prov. of Quebec where "people who were contagious" were sent to live. I can't think of the name of them at this moment. Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. I'll say this as gently as I can, but Mary MALLON was a good example of "people with problems" having the worse symptom of all - "total denial" that there is anything wrong with them.

I think Waterbury VT had a TB sanitorium, but don't know if they took any other kind of patients. Neysa -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harriet Cady Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 8:46 PM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Not to far from Newport in northern NH was a facility I think in Glen, near Pike and Haverhill, NH that was for tuberclosis I think but maybee they took other diseases? I remember a lady who lived on Westend near our home who had tuberclosis and she was at a facility then came home.  The house was next to my grandparents so I visited and she was a lovely lady to us children.  I never realized I might catch TB. I know thee must have been a place not to far cause her husband would go to visit her on a weekend day. Hope you jog soe memories of a sanatorium in northern VT. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:55:49 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Harriet, That was here in New Hampshire, maybe Henniker...?  I'd have to put Typhoid Mary in a search engine.  Good idea for some background info - thanks!  I was kind of hoping that someone might have head of a facility just over the border, as I can't find a Vermont death and at least one of his children lived in Quebec. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harriet Cady Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:41 PM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Vicki, Do you remember the story of Typhoid Mary?  Tht was told to me in science class in 7th grade and they certainly quartined the people but I don't know where. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com; quebec-research@rootsweb.com; QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com; butler@rootsweb.com; vtorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:31:34 PM Subject: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine?  Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid.  This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September.  No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records.  He is buried in Newport Center.  I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have in his/her family Samuel Butler, born in Cornwall Quebec, to Samuel & Prudence Butler. He died in Newport VT 16 Jan 1860 at age 87 yrs/9 mos? Vicki in NH

Harriet, That was here in New Hampshire, maybe Henniker...? I'd have to put Typhoid Mary in a search engine. Good idea for some background info - thanks! I was kind of hoping that someone might have head of a facility just over the border, as I can't find a Vermont death and at least one of his children lived in Quebec. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harriet Cady Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:41 PM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Vicki, Do you remember the story of Typhoid Mary?  Tht was told to me in science class in 7th grade and they certainly quartined the people but I don't know where. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com; quebec-research@rootsweb.com; QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com; butler@rootsweb.com; vtorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:31:34 PM Subject: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine?  Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid.  This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September.  No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records.  He is buried in Newport Center.  I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine? Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid. This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September. No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records. He is buried in Newport Center. I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH

Not to far from Newport in northern NH was a facility I think in Glen, near Pike and Haverhill, NH that was for tuberclosis I think but maybee they took other diseases? I remember a lady who lived on Westend near our home who had tuberclosis and she was at a facility then came home.  The house was next to my grandparents so I visited and she was a lovely lady to us children.  I never realized I might catch TB. I know thee must have been a place not to far cause her husband would go to visit her on a weekend day. Hope you jog soe memories of a sanatorium in northern VT. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:55:49 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Harriet, That was here in New Hampshire, maybe Henniker...?  I'd have to put Typhoid Mary in a search engine.  Good idea for some background info - thanks!  I was kind of hoping that someone might have head of a facility just over the border, as I can't find a Vermont death and at least one of his children lived in Quebec. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harriet Cady Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:41 PM To: vermont@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Vicki, Do you remember the story of Typhoid Mary?  Tht was told to me in science class in 7th grade and they certainly quartined the people but I don't know where. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com; quebec-research@rootsweb.com; QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com; butler@rootsweb.com; vtorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:31:34 PM Subject: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine?  Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid.  This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September.  No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records.  He is buried in Newport Center.  I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vicki, Do you remember the story of Typhoid Mary?  Tht was told to me in science class in 7th grade and they certainly quartined the people but I don't know where. Harriet ----- Original Message ---- From: chip <chip1103@worldpath.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com; quebec-research@rootsweb.com; QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com; butler@rootsweb.com; vtorlean@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2008 7:31:34 PM Subject: [VERMONT] 1852 Typhoid Question (Butler) Does anyone know if someone with typhoid might have been sent away for recuperation/quarantine?  Allen Butler of Newport VT died 16 September 1852 of typhoid.  This was reported in the Orleans County Monitor of 25 September.  No record of his death can be found in Vermont Vital Records or Newport Vital Records.  He is buried in Newport Center.  I wondered whether anyone knew anything about typhoid medical practices. Thanks for any leads. Vicki in NH ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Rutland, Vt.   Goldie Zarecki 1894--1982. Thanks to Jean M. for this lookup for another researcher.   Jan Jordan

Serving in the War of 1812-14 from Williamstown, Orange, VT: Elam CLARK and Orange CLARK with military pension no. 30874. To order a military pension online check out http://www.nara.gov Transcribed by, Jan Jordan

William Fuller -- my goodness! I have been looking for the father of my wife's William Henry Fuller, born in Vermont, for some years. He would probably have been of an age to have enlisted for the War of 1812. Does anyone have a family history on this man? Paul Smith Citrus Heights, CA > FULLER, William Jr. > Served in 1 Regt. Vt. Militia commanded > by Col. Judson. > > STATE OF VERMONT ROSTER OF SOLDIERS IN THE WAR OF 1812-14, Prepared and > published under the direction of Herbert T. Johnson, The Adjutant > General, 1933, page 173. > > Transcribed by, > > Jan Jordan >

Hi Fred, FULLER, William Jr. Served in 1 Regt. Vt. Militia commanded by Col. Judson. STATE OF VERMONT ROSTER OF SOLDIERS IN THE WAR OF 1812-14, Prepared and published under the direction of Herbert T. Johnson, The Adjutant General, 1933, page 173. Transcribed by, Jan Jordan

Hoping to find marriage for Edwin S. Gregory born about 1837 VT the son of John and Lucinda (Lovina) Gregory who lived at Newport (1850) and Troy (1860) to Jane Lufford (sp?). Believe marriage early 1860s as a son William was born May 1863.   Thanks for help Janice

Hey Frank! I have 2 Perrys marrying into my Porters: 1. Samuel Porter (1763, b. Lebanon, CT) married Persis Porter (1768-1860), dau of Robert Perry & Sarah Hodges). These Perrys were from Ashford, CT (previously Malboro & Taunton, MA) & moved up to Pomfret, VT & stayed there several generations. Samuel & Persis moved on to the NEK early 1820s. I own a family history that lists ancestors of Persis Perry, her sibs & children of one of her sibs. Other than that I don't know anything about these Perrys. Samuel Porter & Persis Perry named their youngest child Robert Perry Porter & the name persists in our family to the present. 2. One of the Porter descendants married a Perry in the late 1930s but he was from Virginia. I'm in touch w/one of the children & can get more information if this would be helpful. Margot __________________________________________________________________________ Would be interested in learning how Perry+Porter fits into your Family,if I may be so bold?My Grt-Aunt marr.a PThank You. Frankorter,+I believe one of her children marr.into the Perrys.