What do you think is the percentage of people who didn't get listed?by the early census takers? I know these people I'm looking for?existed, yet I am not able to locate them anywhere. The family had?boys born in 1836 and 1838 possibly some children before and maybe some later. The two?boys that I know of were supposedly born in VT (according to their civil war documents). The family was "intact' with the same last name until the father died and the mother remarried in 1859. -----Original Message----- From: Joann H. Nichols <jnichols1930@verizon.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 1:01 pm Subject: Re: [VERMONT] 1840 census? The only state that has the Bapp surname in 1840 is PA. There are three listings and none of them are Lewis. 1840 only lists the heads of households with numbers in each age category. mmurphy917@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi,? > Llooking for 1840 census of VT, NY or MA for Lewis Bapp, wife M. and at least two sons, Ezra and Paul. > Can anyone help me locate them? > Thanks > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Lewis Bupp in Springfield, York Co., PA. At 12:14 PM 1/23/2009, you wrote: >Does anyone have access to the 1840 census for VT- NY- MA? Looking >for Lewis Bapp, wife M. and at least two sons. >Thanks

I am looking for a John Wyatt who died in Pa. Don't know where he was bron but he was married to a Mary Badger, we think. Any help appreciated. Pam pdailey@zitomedia.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "MK" <pilgrimkin@yahoo.com> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: [VERMONT] Badger_Scribner Hello, I have Badger in my line, so when I saw the name in your query, I thought about checking the Newell database on Rootsweb's World Connect - see link: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=newell2&id=I1942 Joe, the database owner, has a lot of Badger and related family information in Vermont. He is very thorough with his research. I would check with him to see if he might have anything further for you. He has Andrew Scribner b. about 1835 in Calais. ---ORIGINAL MESSAGE--- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:29:27 -0500 From: Jackie Botala <jbotala@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] SCRIBNER:Vt State Prison, finding info about inmates To: "vermont@rootsweb.com" <vermont@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY127-W3252EBB82B903E355FB1D9B0CE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" <<<<<<Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)>>>>>>> Both of these are my Frank SCRIBNER. Was there any other info? I am having no luck locating his birth place. I did get copies of his records from the VT STate Hosp. but wonder if there are more to prison records and if I can or where I can get copies? Thanks so much for your help. Jackie> From: reeljohnson@gmavt.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:27:14 -0500> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] SCRIBNER:Vt State Prison, finding info about inmates> > >From Reference & Research office, Middlesex, VT Microfilm F-30606> > Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)> > Also Frank Alden Scribner married Hattie Dulcena Dailey Dec 6, 1890, > recorded in Calais, age 21, son of Andrew & Ella (Badger). This couple had a > son Frank Warren Scribner born Sept 9, 1896, in Calais.> > I don't know if either of the two marriages would be for the Frank Scribner > you are researching.> ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only state that has the Bapp surname in 1840 is PA. There are three listings and none of them are Lewis. 1840 only lists the heads of households with numbers in each age category. mmurphy917@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi,? > Llooking for 1840 census of VT, NY or MA for Lewis Bapp, wife M. and at least two sons, Ezra and Paul. > Can anyone help me locate them? > Thanks > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone have access to the 1840 census for VT- NY- MA? Looking for Lewis Bapp, wife M. and at least two sons. Thanks

Hi,? Llooking for 1840 census of VT, NY or MA for Lewis Bapp, wife M. and at least two sons, Ezra and Paul. Can anyone help me locate them? Thanks

Hi Betty - I started to look at your question because there is a Rebecca Nourse who was hanged as a witch at Salem, but she was not a Nourse by birth - she married one. Anyway, several of the vital record books to the end of the year 1849 that have been published for the cities and towns of Massachusetts are on line at google.books.com in the Lynn Vital Records - [search for "Vital Records of Lynn, Massachusetts, to the End of the Year 1849"] There is a Rebecca, wife of Joseph S. Kidder, who died February 16, 1839 There is also an unamed son of Joseph S. & Rebecca who died in 1837 Some of the books for Salem and Danvers are on line also. It looks like Rebecca & Joseph filed their marriage intention in Danvers. The marriages for Salem book is not on line here. Vital Records of Danvers, Massachusetts to the End of the Year 1849 pages 156,198 They do not have Danvers Volume 1 [births] on line. But they probably have this at the NEHGS society site. Also, check your public library. They may have a selection of these books [called the Tan Books] in their research room. Salem births are on line, but no Anna Kidder birth. Also, could not find a birth for Rebecca Nourse here. Go to www.google.books.com Enter vital records massachusetts in the search box, and you will get a list of all the books they have. For Clarinda Bowman, take a look at the Salem marriages book. If you search for her and Joseph Kidder, you do get a hit, but the the book has not been digitized yet. Looks like they were married, or filed their marriage intention June 10, 1842 http://books.google.com/books?q=vital+records+massachusetts+clarinda+bowman+joseph+kidder This was after Rebecca died, so maybe Anna is the daughter of Clarinda Bowman and Joseph S. Kidder, assuming all these people are the correct family.... Maybe Joseph & Anna went to Vermont right after they married. If so, you should look for Anna's birth in Vermont, or Hawaii if they actually went there. RE: Hawaii - why do you think he went there? Was he a missionary? or a businessman? I watched a program many years ago on PBS about the last Queen of Hawaii - Liliuokalani who was eventually overthrown. Part of the program was about the missionaries who went to Hawaii starting in the 1830's to convert the population to Christianity, and about the American business interests there involving sugar cane production and pineapples. Lisa llepore@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > That site says his parents are Joseph KIDDER and Sarah SOUTHER. And it > says he married Clarinda BOWMAN in 1842 in Salem, MA. She might have > been from Salem. There is no further information on Clarinda BOWMAN on > that site. So, I don't know when she died, and I don't know if they had > children. > > Oops. Another researcher said he married in Salem, MA, in 1836 to > Rebecca > NOURSE. This researcher says that Rebecca died in 1839 in Lynn, MA. > And, it says that Rebecca's parents were Phinehas NOURSE and Anne > THOMPSON.) > > I was just wondering if anyone knew about this couple, and whether Joseph > and Clarinda KIDDER ever spent some time living in the Hawaiian Islands > (1850's). Or, possibly he went there for a few years. > > Further checking on-line, and the 1880 census has reportedly the same > Joseph > KIDDER back in Orleans Co., VT, Age 69, and a widower. And, he has a > daughter, Anna R. KIDDER, 40 (b~1840 MA) living with him. If she was > born ~1840, she must have been a daughter of Joseph and Rebecca. And, > possibly Rebecca died as a result of childbirth in 1839 and that is when > Anna was born.

Thank you one and all, of course you are right! -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Lepore <llepore@comcast.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 6:59 am Subject: Re: [VERMONT] How to read vital records? Hi, No, that is not correct. Joseph ????? is the person who died. He would have been the son [s.] of Lewis A ????? & Maria. He was 9 months old when he died of consumption on August 14, 1846. In the next record, Lewis A ????? is the one who died. Unfortunately, it looks like no one knew the names of his parents. He was born in France, and died of consumption on March 19, 1847 at the age of 45. Consumption = Tuberculosis Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <mmurphy917@aol.com> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> >I have a death record from the vital records of Lowell MA and am trying to >figure out what I am looking at. > It has > LAST NAME > ????????????????? Joseph,s.Lewis A. and Maria, cholera infantum, Aug 14, > 1846 a. 9 m. > ?????????????????? Lewis A., laborer, b. France, consumption, Mar. 19, > 1847 a. 45 y > > Joseph is probably Lewis's father? Who is Maria who is so much younger at > age 9 months? There are two entries for Lewis A. are they the same guys? > Thanks, your help is most appreciated! ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, No, that is not correct. Joseph ????? is the person who died. He would have been the son [s.] of Lewis A ????? & Maria. He was 9 months old when he died of consumption on August 14, 1846. In the next record, Lewis A ????? is the one who died. Unfortunately, it looks like no one knew the names of his parents. He was born in France, and died of consumption on March 19, 1847 at the age of 45. Consumption = Tuberculosis Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <mmurphy917@aol.com> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> >I have a death record from the vital records of Lowell MA and am trying to >figure out what I am looking at. > It has > LAST NAME > ????????????????? Joseph,s.Lewis A. and Maria, cholera infantum, Aug 14, > 1846 a. 9 m. > ?????????????????? Lewis A., laborer, b. France, consumption, Mar. 19, > 1847 a. 45 y > > Joseph is probably Lewis's father? Who is Maria who is so much younger at > age 9 months? There are two entries for Lewis A. are they the same guys? > Thanks, your help is most appreciated!

Betty; I don't believe this Joseph S. Kidder was ever in Hawaii. Following is what I have found about this individual http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vermont/OrleansIrasburg.html Joseph Kidder, born in Lyndeborough, N.H., April 7, 1780, came to Irasburgh in February 1807. He occupied a part of a neighbor's house for a few weeks, while he was constructing a log house of his own, to which, as soon as completed, he moved his family, a distance of three miles, upon the farm now owned by Freeman Metcalf. He was the first permanent settler west of Black river, and, as near as can be ascertained, the twelfth or thirteenth family in the town. Mr. Kidder made the journey from New Hampshire, a distance of two hundred miles, with two yoke of oxen. Years after, Mrs. Kidder informed her daughter Mary (Mrs. Ware), that the summer after she came here, there was not a blade of grass about their dwelling, and that her brooms she manufactured herself, from hemlock boughs. Bears were numerous and troublesome, rendering it necessary to watch their stock at night. At the breaking out of the war of 1812, several neighbors who had settled near them, left through fear of the Indians, leaving this family alone. In 1836, Mr. Kidder sold out, intending to go west; but, in 1837, Mrs. Kidder died and he abandoned the project and purchased an adjoining farm where he died, in 1853. Two of his five children are now living, Mrs. Joseph S. Kidder, of Coventry, and Mrs. Mary Ware, of this town. A History of the Kidder Family from A.D. 1320 to 1676: Including a Biography of Our Emigrant Ancestor, James Kidder, Also a Genealog of His Descendants Through His Son, John Kidder, who Settled in Chelmsford, Mass., about 1681 By Frank Eugene Kidder Published by , 1886, 1. James and Anna (Moore) Kidder (page 11) 2. John and Lydia (Parker) Kidder (page 21) 3. Joseph and Hannah (Proctor) Kidder (page 23) 4. Jonas and Alice (Barron) Kidder (page 35) 5. Joseph and Sarah (Souther) Kidder (page 51) 6. Joseph and Rebecca (Nourse) Kidder (page 96) Page 51: 37, JOSEPH KIDDER, son of Jonas and Alice (p. 35), was b. in Lyndeboro', N. H., April 7, 1780; d. in Irasburgh, Vt., in 1855, aet. 75. He settled in Irasburgh in 1807, being one of the first settlers of the town. He possessed a farm of two hundred acres, on which he lived and died. When a young man he taught school for several terms. He was for some years one of the selectmen of the town, and was highly respected by all who knew him. He m. Sarah Souther of Danvers, Mass., in 1782; she d. at Irasburgh, in 1837. Sometime after her death he m. Huldah Stevens, of Charleston, Vt.; she d. at Charleston in 1870. CHILDREN BY SARAH SOUTHER: i. Jonas, b. Feb. 28, 1805; m. Sarah Cram Fuller. 84 ii. Eliza Witheredge, b. Oct. 25, 1807. 85 iii. Joseph Souther, b. Oct. 20, 1810. 86 iv. Mary, b. July, 1816; m. Alonzo S. Ware. 87 All born in Irasburgh. 86. JOSEPH SOUTHER KIDDER, son of Joseph and Sarah (p. 51), was b. at Irasburg, Vt., Oct. 20, 1810; now living in Coventry, Vt. He moved to Coventry, in, where he has since resided, practicing the profession of law. He is a prominent man in the town, and has held many offices of public honor and trust. He represented the town in the Legislature in 1870, was Lister from 1870-1880, has been State Justice since 1870, and Overseer of the Poor since 1876. He m. in March, 1836, at Salem, Mass, Rebecca Nourse, dau. of Phineas Nourse, of Keene, N. H., and a descendant of the wife of Gov. Endicott, of Massachusetts. She was b. at Littleton, N. H., Feb. 10, 1812. She d. in 1865. Child : ii. Ann Rebecca, b. at Saugus, Mass., Nov. 25, 1858. Lives with her father in Coventry, Vt. {Died 9/29/1926} http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/kidder-kilbourne.html#1BF0VG9JN: Kidder, Joseph Souther (b. 1810) — of Coventry, Orleans County, Vt. Born in Irasburg, Orleans County, Vt., October 20, 1810. Second cousin once removed of Isaiah Kidder, Ezra Kidder and Luther Kidder; third cousin once removed of Lyman Kidder and David Kidder; son of Joseph Kidder (1780-1855) and Sarah (Souther) Kidder (1894-1837); fourth cousin of Alvan Kidder, Ira Kidder and Jefferson Parish Kidder; third cousin of Arba Kidder; married, March 30, 1836, to Rebecca Nourse (1812-1839); married, June 10, 1842, to Clarinda Bowman. Lawyer; member of Vermont state house of representatives, 1870. Burial location unknown. Vernon

Hello, Someone on the HAWAII List got me thinking about my ancestor's nephew, Charles KIDDER, from northern Maine. He left the Calais, ME, area ~1884 to migrate to the Hawaiian Islands. He settled in Honolulu, married there, and had many children. (from the "KIDDER book" and responses to my queries on HAWAII Lists) When I looked at some old postings on that List, I was reminded of a web site which has information on that family. But, it also mentions that a Joseph S. KIDDER was in the Hawaiian Islands ~1850. He was naturalized there in 1851 and got a passport there in 1852. I checked www.familysearch.org just now and the only Joseph S. KIDDER mentioned as having been born in the 1810's to 1830's was: Joseph Souther KIDDER, b1810 in Orleans Co., VT. That site says his parents are Joseph KIDDER and Sarah SOUTHER. And it says he married Clarinda BOWMAN in 1842 in Salem, MA. She might have been from Salem. There is no further information on Clarinda BOWMAN on that site. So, I don't know when she died, and I don't know if they had children. Oops. Another researcher said he married in Salem, MA, in 1836 to Rebecca NOURSE. This researcher says that Rebecca died in 1839 in Lynn, MA. And, it says that Rebecca's parents were Phinehas NOURSE and Anne THOMPSON.) I was just wondering if anyone knew about this couple, and whether Joseph and Clarinda KIDDER ever spent some time living in the Hawaiian Islands (1850's). Or, possibly he went there for a few years. Further checking on-line, and the 1880 census has reportedly the same Joseph KIDDER back in Orleans Co., VT, Age 69, and a widower. And, he has a daughter, Anna R. KIDDER, 40 (b~1840 MA) living with him. If she was born ~1840, she must have been a daughter of Joseph and Rebecca. And, possibly Rebecca died as a result of childbirth in 1839 and that is when Anna was born. I just checked the 1860 census, and Joseph and Clarinda are in Orleans Co., VT, at Ages 49 and 39. They have Alice BOWMAN, 64, living with them. And there is a girl, Lisa? / Kina? KINNEY, 12, living with them. Joseph is still there in 1870, but has probable daughter, Anna KIDDER, 31, with him, and Alice? BOWMAN, 74. So, it seems that Mrs. Clarinda KIDDER died during 1860's in VT. Since we don't have an 1850 census on-line, there still isn't a way to find out if Joseph S. KIDDER spent some time in 1850's in the Hawaiian Islands. This family is not on my family tree. I am just curious about them. Betty (near Lowell, MA) (The father, Joseph KIDDER, is in the 1820 census in Orleans Co., VT, supposedly with a wife and several children.)

Hello, I have Badger in my line, so when I saw the name in your query, I thought about checking the Newell database on Rootsweb's World Connect - see link: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=newell2&id=I1942 Joe, the database owner, has a lot of Badger and related family information in Vermont.  He is very thorough with his research.  I would check with him to see if he might have anything further for you. He has Andrew Scribner b. about 1835 in Calais. ---ORIGINAL MESSAGE--- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:29:27 -0500 From: Jackie Botala <jbotala@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] SCRIBNER:Vt State Prison, finding info about inmates To: "vermont@rootsweb.com" <vermont@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY127-W3252EBB82B903E355FB1D9B0CE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" <<<<<<Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)>>>>>>> Both of these are my Frank SCRIBNER. Was there any other info? I am having no luck locating his birth place. I did get copies of his records from the VT STate Hosp. but wonder if there are more to prison records and if I can or where I can get copies? Thanks so much for your help. Jackie> From: reeljohnson@gmavt.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:27:14 -0500> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] SCRIBNER:Vt State Prison, finding info about inmates> > >From Reference & Research office, Middlesex, VT Microfilm F-30606> > Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)> > Also Frank Alden Scribner married Hattie Dulcena Dailey Dec 6, 1890, > recorded in Calais, age 21, son of Andrew & Ella (Badger). This couple had a > son Frank Warren Scribner born Sept 9, 1896, in Calais.> > I don't know if either of the two marriages would be for the Frank Scribner > you are researching.>

Don't you think it's the son Joseph who is 9 months? Son of Lewis and Maria? Lewis was age 45 and there is no death record for Maria; check for her in the 1850 census. Joann mmurphy917@aol.com wrote: > I have a death record from the vital records of Lowell MA and am trying to figure out what I am looking at. > It has > LAST NAME > ????????????????? Joseph,s.Lewis A. and Maria, cholera infantum, Aug 14, 1846 a. 9 m. > ?????????????????? Lewis A., laborer, b. France, consumption, Mar. 19, 1847 a. 45 y > > Joseph is probably Lewis's father? Who is Maria who is so much younger at age 9 months? There are two entries for Lewis A. are they the same guys? > Thanks, your help is most appreciated! > > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

To me it says: Joseph, son of Lewis A and Maria ?????, died of cholera infantfum on August 14,1846, child's age 9 months Lewis A., laborer, born in France,died of consumption on March 19, 1847 at the age of 45 >From what you have listed you have no identifying age information on Maria. It is quite possible that Lewis was the same in each listing, he had a child who died a year in 1846, father died 1847. > To: vermont@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:49:15 -0500> From: mmurphy917@aol.com> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] How to read vital records?> > I have a death record from the vital records of Lowell MA and am trying to figure out what I am looking at.> It has > LAST NAME> ????????????????? Joseph,s.Lewis A. and Maria, cholera infantum, Aug 14, 1846 a. 9 m.> ?????????????????? Lewis A., laborer, b. France, consumption, Mar. 19, 1847 a. 45 y> > Joseph is probably Lewis's father? Who is Maria who is so much younger at age 9 months? There are two entries for Lewis A. are they the same guys?> Thanks, your help is most appreciated!> > > > > *************************************************> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009

Joseph is the son of Lewis A. and Maria, he died of cholera at 9 months of age. Lewis A. died the following year at age 45 years. He was born in France and died of consumption (probably tuberculosis). Lorraine Leslie Besmer

I have a death record from the vital records of Lowell MA and am trying to figure out what I am looking at. It has LAST NAME ????????????????? Joseph,s.Lewis A. and Maria, cholera infantum, Aug 14, 1846 a. 9 m. ?????????????????? Lewis A., laborer, b. France, consumption, Mar. 19, 1847 a. 45 y Joseph is probably Lewis's father? Who is Maria who is so much younger at age 9 months? There are two entries for Lewis A. are they the same guys? Thanks, your help is most appreciated!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ELLinSpain Surnames: malkus Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/4896.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello vermont Deaths Given, Middle Name, Surname: Harriet B Malkus [Harriet B Boon] Birth Date: 25 Apr 1899 Death Date: 20 Dec 1992 Place of Death: Rutland City, VT RESIDENCE: Rutland City, VT Gender: F (Female) Age: 93 Race: White Marriage Status: Widowed FATHER'S SURNAME: Boon Birthplace: NY Given, Middle Name, Surname: Edward V Malkus Birth Date: 25 Jan 1892 Death Date: 21 Aug 1983 Place of Death: Rutland City, VT Age: 91 SS DEATH INDEX Name: Edward Malkus SSN: 008-26-9759 Last Residence: 05701 Rutland, Rutland, Vermont, United States of America Born: 25 Jan 1892 Died: Aug 1983 State (Year) SSN issued: Vermont (1953-1954) leads me to WW1 Draft Name: Edward Vincent Malkus City: Queens County: Queens State: New York Birthplace: New York;United States of America Birth Date: 25 Jan 1892 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 1787167 DraftBoard: 179 address 2413 Madison, Brlyn an Electrican with wife & 3 children 5'11" slender build blond hair light blue eyes Defective fight (whatever that means) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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No, that was all there was in the records. Essentially, they're just records of when inmates were incarcerated, when released, place of residence at the time of their arrest, occupation, and place of birth. They also give the crime, name of a contact person, age, and some physical characteristics of the inmate. I don't know if there was ever a more detailed record of the inmate while in prison, but it's likely that any information about the trial, etc., would be in the county court records. It's possible that any crime conviction that's appealed might appear in the Vermont Supreme Court records--just thought of that. I'll check those tomorrow. I also want to ask anyone who contacted me about the Windsor prison records, and didn't hear back from me, to please re-submit your query: there were several of you, and I may have dropped the ball on someone. Sylvia Bugbee Assistant Archivist Special Collections Bailey-Howe Library University of Vermont On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Jackie Botala wrote: > > <<<<<<Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)>>>>>>> > > Both of these are my Frank SCRIBNER. Was there any other info? I am having no luck locating his birth place. I did get copies of his records from the VT STate Hosp. but wonder if there are more to prison records and if I can or where I can get copies? > > Thanks so much for your help. > > Jackie> From: reeljohnson@gmavt.net> To: vermont@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:27:14 -0500> Subject: Re: [VERMONT] SCRIBNER:Vt State Prison, finding info about inmates> > >From Reference & Research office, Middlesex, VT Microfilm F-30606> > Frank Scribner died Aug 3, 1908, Vermont State Hospital, age 44, married, > teamster & farmer, recorded in Waterbury, parents listed as unknown> > There's also a Frank Scribner who married Josephine Parizo Aug 25, 1906, > recorded in Bolton, age 39, 2nd marriage, son of William & Martha (Adams)> > Also Frank Alden Scribner married Hattie Dulcena Dailey Dec 6, 1890, > recorded in Calais, age 21, son of Andrew & Ella (Badger). This couple had a > son Frank Warren Scribner born Sept 9, 1896, in Calais.> > I don't know if either of the two marriages would be for the Frank Scribner > you are researching.> > > > > > *************************************************> List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html> Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009 > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Source, Rutland Daily Herald-- Thur. July 13, 1911. ARLINGTON , VT. Mrs. W. C. Viault and family were in town over Sunday. Mr. and Mrs. Guy McKeon returned from Bennington on Monday where they were called by the death of Mr. McKeon's father. Miss Elsie Mattison of East Greenwich is visiting her aunt, Mrs. F. C. Brownson. Miss Florence Holden is in Bennington for a few days. Earl Goodell of Greenfield, Mass., spent Sunday at Mrs. Ida Brownson's. Mrs. William Jones and son, Leslie of Brooklyn spent Sunday with Mr. Jones. Mrs. Robert Johnstone of New York city will arrive in town Saturday and will occupy St. James' rectory for the remainder of the summer. Spafford Canfield of Schenectady, N.Y., is visiting his grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. F. N. Canfield. Dr. and Mrs. J. H. Reichling have returned from their wedding trip and have gone to housekeeping in the Holden house. Edward Phillips of Troy, N.Y., visited his daughter, Mrs. G. D. Howard recently. Paul Rochester of New York city spent Sunday with Mrs. Rochester a Mrs. Marble's. Edgar Boody of Englewood, N.J., spent Sunday with his family at the McAuley's. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love.