There is an article in today's (Feb.16) Rutland Herald , on the front page along with a photo, about Bernard Dooley of Poultney. Mr. Dooley was a POW in World War 11, very interesting article. I was born in Poultney, I don't recall Mr. Bernard because I was too young at the time , but my sister remembered him. Joan H. Bixby Genealogy not just a hobby, but a labor of love.

Hi Betty, I was wondering if this was James STRONG in the 1881 Census for the Prov. of Quebec: E B STRONG M Male English 61 Q <Quebec> Farmer Church of England Patience STRONG M Female English 43 Q <Quebec> Church of England James B STRONG Male English 21 Q <Quebec> Farmer Church of England Jackson H STRONG Male English 19 Q <Quebec> Church of England Mary A STRONG Female English 17 Q <Quebec> Teacher Church of England Charlie E STRONG Male English 15 Q <Quebec> Church of England Arthur C STRONG Male English 12 Q <Quebec> Church of England Wilby C STRONG Male English 10 Q <Quebec> Church of England Theodotius P STRONG Male English 8 Q <Quebec> Church of England Bertha G STRONG Female English 5 Q <Quebec> Church of England Clarisa GRIMBLE W Female English 77 Q <Quebec> Church of England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Sutton, Brome, Quebec Family History Library Film 1375837 And, do you have the marriage for James STRONG and Miranda (?) ? IF this is the correct, James, it would be interesting to find out where he met Miranda. And, did her family move to Brome Co.? Brome Co. is north of VT. So, if Miranda was born in NH, that would have been a little bit of traveling to get to Brome Co. - if her family moved there. Just some thoughts. Betty (near Lowell, MA)

Hi Betty Yes the James B Strong 21 is the one that I mentioned. He and his wife don't seem to have any children so they took in Home Children to help on the farm. It is John Cooper that I am trying to trace. He was the home child. He had no known blood family so that, I think, is why he moved to the US when they did. I am looking for the death of James and Miranda Strong to see if that is when he moved on from Chittenden county. I don't have Ancestry.com though so I am trying to search through the familysearch.org site and they don't seem to have anything on there. John Cooper is the one I am trying to track. Thank you for the info though. It was kind of you to look. Regards Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:18 AM Subject: [VERMONT] James and Miranda STRONG ~1900 > Hi Betty, > > I was wondering if this was James STRONG in the 1881 Census for the Prov. > of > Quebec: > > > E B STRONG M Male English 61 Q <Quebec> Farmer Church > of England > Patience STRONG M Female English 43 Q <Quebec> Church > of England > James B STRONG Male English 21 Q <Quebec> Farmer > Church of England > Jackson H STRONG Male English 19 Q <Quebec> Church > of > England > Mary A STRONG Female English 17 Q <Quebec> Teacher > Church of England > Charlie E STRONG Male English 15 Q <Quebec> Church > of > England > Arthur C STRONG Male English 12 Q <Quebec> Church of > England > Wilby C STRONG Male English 10 Q <Quebec> Church of > England > Theodotius P STRONG Male English 8 Q <Quebec> Church > of England > Bertha G STRONG Female English 5 Q <Quebec> Church > of > England > Clarisa GRIMBLE W Female English 77 Q <Quebec> Church > of England > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Source Information: > Census Place Sutton, Brome, Quebec > Family History Library Film 1375837 > > > > And, do you have the marriage for James STRONG and Miranda (?) ? > > IF this is the correct, James, it would be interesting to find out where > he > met Miranda. And, did her family move to Brome Co.? Brome Co. is > north of VT. So, if Miranda was born in NH, that would have been a > little > bit of traveling to get to Brome Co. - if her family moved there. > > Just some thoughts. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue I think you are right about the 1901 census. It would fit in with the time line. About the John H Cooper? I am not sure of that one as he never had a middle name according to Bernardo's homes. Also he was traveling from Quebec. If it is him he would have just left the service as he was discharged Mar. 29, 1919. His first crossing of the boarder would have been between 1911 and 1918 I can't find records where Miranda and James Strong crossed the boarder either. They were also traveling from Quebec. If you are on Ancestry.com could you look and see if there is a death for the Strong's in the NE? Vermont, New Hampshire, etc. James b. 1860 Miranda b. 1858 I would appreciate it. It would really help if John would have been given a middle name. Some other not so common name would have been good to. Thanks for the info. Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Honore" <sue.honore@dsl.pipex.com> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] New to this list > Betty, > > These might be some clues: > > 1901 census in Leeds, Yorkshire - at the District Union Infirmary, John > Cooper aged 3 was a patient. > > Border Crossings > > April 1919 at St Albans, Vt, > > John H Cooper (note middle initial!), English, Farm worker, no relatives, > home Toronto, destination Winooski Vt. > > It looks like Miranda Strong was born in New Hampshire, even if her > parents > came from England. > > Sue Honore > > -----Original Message----- > From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Roy and Betty Mullett > Sent: 11 February 2009 21:31 > To: VERMONT@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VERMONT] New to this list > > I am new to this list but not to genealogy in general. > My name is Betty and I am in western Canada. > > My needle in a haystack is not a relative of mine. There is a WW1 dog tag > that has been found in Kent, England and there are a few of us that would > like to return it to family of this gentleman if there is any. > > > Name John Cooper > b. 25 Dec 1896 > Leeds, Yorkshire, England > > He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. > > He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a > family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a U.S. > citizen b. 1858. > > At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North > St., > > Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. when he > enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, after the > war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For his War > Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank. > > We would really like to find family if there is any. If anyone can help I > would appreciate it. He had no middle name or any family in England to be > found so the logical place for the search is Vermont. > > If anyone could help I would be most grateful. > > Betty > Alberta, Canada > > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, These might be some clues: 1901 census in Leeds, Yorkshire - at the District Union Infirmary, John Cooper aged 3 was a patient. Border Crossings April 1919 at St Albans, Vt, John H Cooper (note middle initial!), English, Farm worker, no relatives, home Toronto, destination Winooski Vt. It looks like Miranda Strong was born in New Hampshire, even if her parents came from England. Sue Honore -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy and Betty Mullett Sent: 11 February 2009 21:31 To: VERMONT@rootsweb.com Subject: [VERMONT] New to this list I am new to this list but not to genealogy in general. My name is Betty and I am in western Canada. My needle in a haystack is not a relative of mine. There is a WW1 dog tag that has been found in Kent, England and there are a few of us that would like to return it to family of this gentleman if there is any. Name John Cooper b. 25 Dec 1896 Leeds, Yorkshire, England He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a U.S. citizen b. 1858. At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North St., Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. when he enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, after the war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For his War Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank. We would really like to find family if there is any. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. He had no middle name or any family in England to be found so the logical place for the search is Vermont. If anyone could help I would be most grateful. Betty Alberta, Canada ************************************************* List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is my occasional posting on this board regarding my very stubborn brick wall. My brick wall is my great-great grandparents , John and Mary Govro . John is shown on the 1850 Census in Illinois, Lake County, Cuba Township. He is shown as age either 40 or 48 (hard to read) being born in either Canada or France (also hard to read). His wife, Mary E., is shown as age 33, born in Vermont. There are also several children listed, including my great-grandfather Jerome. Mary Govro is shown on the 1860 Census (same location) with several of her children, but John is not listed. My assumption here is that he died, but I have not been able to find any death records from that era to confirm this. I have traced Mary further forward until she died in Iowa in the early 1900's. Through this research I have also found that her maiden name was Scott. I am looking for any help in tracing the lineage for either John or Mary backward from the 1850 Census. I know this probably like looking for the proverbial "needle in a haystack", but any help or assistance provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Gary Govro Crystal, MN

The 1920 census would be the right James Baron Strong. The 1910 isn't him as they were still in Canada. Was there anyone else living with them? John Cooper may have moved on by then. He gave their address when he was discharged. This is the only family he knew and being he moved to the US when they did, I am assuming he didn't go too far away until they died. You know what assuming is though. If I could find out when they died it might help. I will take your advice and post to the Home Children's list as well. Didn't see one of those but will check it out. Thanks again. Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] New to this list > Hi Betty, > > The couple is in the 1920 US census: > > STRONG, JAMES B (1920 U.S. Census) > VERMONT , CHITTENDEN, WINOOSKI; COLCHESTER TWP > Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: CANA > Series: T625 Roll: 1872 Page: 46 > > Miranda is 61. The birth place is hard to read. It's a long word, and > it almost looks like North America, or it's a long word that looks like > that. Her parents were born in England. > > An FYI is that there is a James B. STRONG in VT in 1910, but the ages > don't > match up: > > STRONG, JAMES B (1910 U.S. Census) > VERMONT , WINDSOR, SPRINGFIELD > Age: 35, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NY > Series: T624 Roll: 1618 Page: 241 > > (I can't check 1930.) > > There are 125 John COOPER's in NY State in 1920, but none match up to the > man you're looking for: John, ~25 born England. > > (There are almost 3000 COOPER's in NY State in 1920.) > > Have you posted this query on the "British Home Children" List? If > John > enlisted in the Canadian Air Force, perhaps people on that List would > know > if the "World War I Draft Cards" for Canada are on-line. (The ones > for > the U.S. are on-line.) > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > . >> >> >> Name John Cooper >> b. 25 Dec 1896 >> Leeds, Yorkshire, England >> >> He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. >> >> He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a >> family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a >> U.S. >> citizen b. 1858. >> >> At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North >> St., Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. >> when he enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, >> after the war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For >> his War Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank.

Hi Betty Yes I have these records. I ordered them to see if there was a clue on them as to where to go next. That is where I got the address and banking info. It has all his medical records and pay records also but there is nothing else on there to help with my search. I do know that he probably needed a dentist when he came home (he needed 19 fillings). His teeth were really bad. He was 157 lbs, 5'9" tall and had brown eyes. He had good vision and his hearing was excellent. He was discharged Mar. 29, 1919. This is really all I have, literally. Thank you for your interest in John Cooper. I am hoping to find someone who cares about him, that is all I am hoping for. Regards Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> To: <vermont@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:13 AM Subject: [VERMONT] W W I Draft Records (COOPER, Eng / Can / US) > Hi again, > > Just wanted to offer this data base on "Ancestry." A John Cooper > signing > up in NY is mentioned. But, I don't subscribe to Ancestry, so I can't > look > at the record. > > http://content.ancestry.ca/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6482&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0 > > > Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > > An FYI site: > > http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/youth/sub.cfm?source=teach_resources/vimymodules/911_lesson > > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Betty, you might start by seeing if the Vermont vital records repository has the date of his death. They have a web site at http://vermont-archives.org/about/contact/contact.htm: you need the Middlesex location because that is where the vital records are kept. If that doesn't yield information, I can check out the Winooski City Directory to see if we can pinpoint how long he was living there, and whether he was there when he died. With a date of death, you might be able to find a probated will with next of kin listed. Sincerely, Sylvia Bugbee Assistant Archivist Special Collections Bailey-Howe Library University of Vermont Burlington, VT 05405 On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Roy and Betty Mullett wrote: > I am new to this list but not to genealogy in general. > My name is Betty and I am in western Canada. > > My needle in a haystack is not a relative of mine. There is a WW1 dog tag > that has been found in Kent, England and there are a few of us that would > like to return it to family of this gentleman if there is any. > > > Name John Cooper > b. 25 Dec 1896 > Leeds, Yorkshire, England > > He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. > > He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a > family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a U.S. > citizen b. 1858. > > At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North St., > Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. when he > enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, after the > war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For his War > Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank. > > We would really like to find family if there is any. If anyone can help I > would appreciate it. He had no middle name or any family in England to be > found so the logical place for the search is Vermont. > > If anyone could help I would be most grateful. > > Betty > Alberta, Canada > > > > > ************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello list I am looking for anyone who can do some vital lookups for me if you can would you please email me _Radical351@aol.com_ (mailto:Radical351@aol.com) I am looking for the births of any children born to Frank or Elucippie Lord and Mary Kellott in 1880 They are living in Brighton, Essex,Vermont I have a few different cities mentioned East Grandville is the one I see most then there is Norton where a child Paul Died and there is Island pond is mentioned and Colebrook Coos NH the years would be from 1880 to 1890 also I am looking for a marriage license for a Helen, Ellen,or Nellie Lord I am not sure where she was married but in 1900 she was 15 yrs old and living with her brother in Norton ,Essex ,Vermont in 1909 she married for the second time in Maine there were 2 baby girls born to her first marriage they did not live not sure why but we were always told about them and in the 1900 censes from Norton Essex Maine she has been married zero years and she had 2 pregnancies with zero living children she was divorced is there any way of getting these records and where would I write to? we would like to know her first husband and the 2 babies Thank You for taking the time to read this post all help is appreciated it is hard to do from New York Thank You Cheryl **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000001)

1880 Census for Brighton, Essex County, Vermont lists: Frank Lord, age 26, Farmer,born: Canada, both Parents born Canada Mary (his wife), age 24 born Canada, Father born Ireland, Mother born NH Victor J., 7 months old, born Canada, both parents born Canada 1900 Census for Norton, Essex County, Vermont lists: Victor Lord, born Oct 1879 single head of household, salesman born Vermont, both parents born NH Sadie Lord, born October 1882, sister, single, housekeeper, born NH, both parents born NH Nellie Lord, born Sept. 1884, sister, born NH, both parents born NH. Hope this helps, Vernon

Hi again, Just wanted to offer this data base on "Ancestry." A John Cooper signing up in NY is mentioned. But, I don't subscribe to Ancestry, so I can't look at the record. http://content.ancestry.ca/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=6482&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0 Betty (near Lowell, MA) An FYI site: http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/youth/sub.cfm?source=teach_resources/vimymodules/911_lesson

Hi Betty, The couple is in the 1920 US census: STRONG, JAMES B (1920 U.S. Census) VERMONT , CHITTENDEN, WINOOSKI; COLCHESTER TWP Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: CANA Series: T625 Roll: 1872 Page: 46 Miranda is 61. The birth place is hard to read. It's a long word, and it almost looks like North America, or it's a long word that looks like that. Her parents were born in England. An FYI is that there is a James B. STRONG in VT in 1910, but the ages don't match up: STRONG, JAMES B (1910 U.S. Census) VERMONT , WINDSOR, SPRINGFIELD Age: 35, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NY Series: T624 Roll: 1618 Page: 241 (I can't check 1930.) There are 125 John COOPER's in NY State in 1920, but none match up to the man you're looking for: John, ~25 born England. (There are almost 3000 COOPER's in NY State in 1920.) Have you posted this query on the "British Home Children" List? If John enlisted in the Canadian Air Force, perhaps people on that List would know if the "World War I Draft Cards" for Canada are on-line. (The ones for the U.S. are on-line.) Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy and Betty Mullett" <rbmullett@shaw.ca> To: <VERMONT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: [VERMONT] New to this list >I am new to this list but not to genealogy in general. > My name is Betty and I am in western Canada. > > My needle in a haystack is not a relative of mine. There is a WW1 dog tag > that has been found in Kent, England and there are a few of us that would > like to return it to family of this gentleman if there is any. > > > Name John Cooper > b. 25 Dec 1896 > Leeds, Yorkshire, England > > He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. > > He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a > family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a U.S. > citizen b. 1858. > > At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North > St., Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. > when he enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, > after the war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For > his War Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank. > > We would really like to find family if there is any. If anyone can help I > would appreciate it. He had no middle name or any family in England to be > found so the logical place for the search is Vermont. > > If anyone could help I would be most grateful. > > Betty > Alberta, Canada > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jackdog93 Surnames: Williams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/4947/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any information that may support my theory that John Williams, born 1769, is the son of either Rufus Williams, William Williams or Amariah Williams, all of Chittenden County, Vermont, where John Williams was born, in Underhill. Can anyone help? -Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am new to this list but not to genealogy in general. My name is Betty and I am in western Canada. My needle in a haystack is not a relative of mine. There is a WW1 dog tag that has been found in Kent, England and there are a few of us that would like to return it to family of this gentleman if there is any. Name John Cooper b. 25 Dec 1896 Leeds, Yorkshire, England He was given this name and birth date as he was a foundling. He was brought to Canada as a home child in 1 Oct 1909 and lived with a family in Quebec, James Baron Strong and his wife Miranda. She was a U.S. citizen b. 1858. At some point before Feb. 14, 1916 James and Miranda moved to 339 North St., Winooski, Vermont. John Cooper was at 445- 9 Ave. New York, N.Y. when he enlisted in the Canadian Air force. Upon his discharge, 29.3.19, after the war he listed his residence as 339 North Street, Winooski. For his War Service Gratuity he wanted it put in the Chittenden County Bank. We would really like to find family if there is any. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. He had no middle name or any family in England to be found so the logical place for the search is Vermont. If anyone could help I would be most grateful. Betty Alberta, Canada

That is a very interesting piece, Harriet. Thanks for posting it. I'll go right in and look at ALL my ten thousand dollar bills, so I will know what he looked like!!!! Ha ha......don't I wish???? mas -----Original Message----- From: vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:vermont-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of HarrietM Chase Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:24 AM To: chase-L@rootsweb.com; vtorange@rootsweb.com; vermont@rootsweb.com; vtwindso-L@rootsweb.com; Pictallen@aol.com Subject: [VERMONT] ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND SALMON P CHASE SALMON P CHASE While we celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s 200th birthday this year, there is yet another Chase, Salmon Portland Chase, who bears recognition. These two men worked closely during Lincoln's presidential term. Close they were but at odds. Salmon P. came from the Cornish, New Hampshire Chase families. He, one of ten children was born 13 January 1808 to Ithamar and Janet (Ralston) Chase). Ithamar was rather well to do for a time and deemed the richest man in Cornish at the time his marriage. Salmon’s father built what is currently the Chase House Bed and Breakfast on Rt. 12 A in Cornish. (photo available) Hard times came upon the family and at the death of Salmon P’s father in 1817; they were living in Keene, New Hampshire. Salmon P. attended schools in Keen, NH and Windsor, Vermont, until his mother thought that “Uncle Philander” would have some fatherly influence upon and he could get a proper education. Before Philander Chase became Episcopal bishop of Ohio, he operated a school in that state. Salmon spent two years in Ohio with his uncle, going to school and working on the bishop’s farm. The impression one gets from the various accountings of the Chase history, Salmon did not like it very much, mainly because the hard work. There is an often told tale of what Salmon did one time to his uncle. He was instructed by Philander to butcher one of the farm pigs, which he did. However, he could not get the bristles off, even with the scalding in hot water. So either in desperation or to pull a trick on Philander, Salmon used his uncle’s razors and shaved the pig up as smooth as can be! When Philander returned from errands, Salmon was congratulated on the good looking job, but when the stern disciplinarian uncle later found his razors unusable for the human face, it is easy to speculate what measures might have been imposed upon the young lad of thirteen or fourteen. Salmon P. returned to his family in Keen, New Hampshire when he was fifteen in 1823. He tried teaching school for a while, but it did not work out. His mother made arrangements for him to live with his aunt Rachel Chase Denison in Royalton, Vermont. Rachel Denison was the wife of Joseph Denison; Doc Denison. The Denisons were a well know family in Royalton, many being doctors and lawyers; at least one living in Randolph. According to Lucy Denison Elder in writing of “The Story of the Old Church” (Old Christ Church, Bethel); Royalton was a promising village with an academy famous up and down the valley. Famous or not Salmon must have received a good education a this academy and from the school previous in Ohio, as when he was fifteen or sixteen he was accepted into Dartmouth College as a junior. He graduated in 1926 and then went to Washington, D.C. to study law. Local lure gives some impression that Salmon lived for a time at his Uncle Dudley’s in Randolph Center and studied law under him, however if one follows the time line laid out by biographer John Niven in “Salmon P. Chase”, there is no note of this. Mr. Niven is editor of the papers of Salmon P. Chase. Salmon from early on kept copious notes, journals and diaries and it seems likely that Mr. Niven would have picked up if Salmon P. Chase had indeed lived with the Honorable Dudley Chase. Dudley and Salmon Chase did interact when the latter first went to Washington, D. C. Salmon asked his uncle to use his political influence to obtain him a government clerkship appointment. He refused, saying; “I once obtained an appointment for a nephew and he was ruined by it. I determined not to do that again”. Dudley then gave him fifty cents; “to buy a spade”. (I don’t think Dudley Chase was being selfish or uncaring, but was essentially telling his nephew to WORK for what he needed) Salmon managed, studied law in D. C. under Honorable William A. Wirth and was admitted to the bar in 1829. Soon after that he went to Ohio to practice law. He became a stern advocate of the plight of the slaves, defending them in court and fighting for their rights in many ways. He also wrote many anti-slavery publications. In 1849 he was elected to the US Senate and served until 1855. He then served two terms as Ohio’s governor, after which time he returned to the US Senate. At the national Republican convention, he received a few votes for president, but he ultimately lost to Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln appointed him Secretary of the US Treasury 1861. When he came into office, only a few months before the Civil War, the US Treasury was depleted, the national debt heavily increased and the credit of the government was seriously impaired. Though, he had not the training nor experience in financial affairs, Salmon Chase was given the insurmountable task of finding money to finance the war. It is said the in the “Chase Chronicles” that Chase went before the bankers in New York to obtain a huge loan. He did not agree with the banker’s terms. And so he threatened? If they did not agree with his terms, he would issue paper money. The loan was granted. In the “Seven Generations of the Descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase”, we read that; “If you cannot loan the government, I shall go back to Washington and issue notes for circulation; for it is certain that the war must go on until the rebellion is put down, if we have to put out paper until it takes a thousand dollars to buy a breakfast”. Chase and Lincoln were very different from each other. In the areas of money, Lincoln is quoted as saying; “Money! I don’t know anything about money. I never had enough of my own to fret”. When protests came to him regarding taxes and money matters, he referred them to Secretary Chase. When Chase consulted his president about financial issues, Lincoln’s often replied; “go ahead, you understand these things, I don’t”. Social issues also drew a line between these two giants. Lincoln came from humble background with little education and social connections. Salmon P. Chase, though he had hard times, he had influence. His uncles Senator Dudley Chase and Bishop Philander Chase are the immediate ones which comes to mind. One also gets the impression that Salmon P. had a sense of “entitlement”. In person he is described as; “very dignified, fond of form, proud of intellect, tenacious of precedents (Chase stubbornness), without wit or humour” Lincoln would be described in the opposite. Perhaps they complimented each other in the tasks at hand of running the government. They worked together (for the good of the country) though often at the other ends of the spectrum in personality, attributes and opinions. Though, Salmon P. Chase did not ever become president of the United States, he did have much to do with making history. While being Secretary of the Treasury he is credited to establishing the current banking system. Lincoln appointed him Chief Justice of the United States. The item for which he is best known while holding this office was his presiding over the impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson in 1868. In Salmon Portland Chase’s personal life, he suffered a great deal of grief, as his three wives and three children died. He died while still in office in 1873 .The reader may remember him by glancing at one’s ten thousand dollar bill, for that is his image on there. For those interested in more study the “Chase Chronicles are on the internet at: http://www.webnests.com/Chase/chronicles.htm Thank you Lonnie! This writer has the “Seven Generations of Aquila and Thomas Chase” “Salmon P. Chase” by John Niven. 1995 Also if you want to get at some almost original writings of Salmon P. Google has on-line a huge book; An Account of the Private Life and Public Services of Salmon Portland Chase By Robert Bruce Warden, 868 pages. I can’t get a decent URL on this now, I suppose because I’ve already “been there” and downloaded it. Harriet M. 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Does anyone know the names of Isaac Clark's children? He married first Hannah Chittenden in 1779 in Ira, VT, and second Anne Fitch in 1790. Isaac was b. 5 Oct 1748 in Norwich, CT, and d. 31 Jan 1822 in Castleton, VT. I've received many opinions but no definite facts. Can anyone help me. Thank you. Carol White

SALMON P CHASE While we celebrate Abraham Lincoln’s 200th birthday this year, there is yet another Chase, Salmon Portland Chase, who bears recognition. These two men worked closely during Lincoln's presidential term. Close they were but at odds. Salmon P. came from the Cornish, New Hampshire Chase families. He, one of ten children was born 13 January 1808 to Ithamar and Janet (Ralston) Chase). Ithamar was rather well to do for a time and deemed the richest man in Cornish at the time his marriage. Salmon’s father built what is currently the Chase House Bed and Breakfast on Rt. 12 A in Cornish. (photo available) Hard times came upon the family and at the death of Salmon P’s father in 1817; they were living in Keene, New Hampshire. Salmon P. attended schools in Keen, NH and Windsor, Vermont, until his mother thought that “Uncle Philander” would have some fatherly influence upon and he could get a proper education. Before Philander Chase became Episcopal bishop of Ohio, he operated a school in that state. Salmon spent two years in Ohio with his uncle, going to school and working on the bishop’s farm. The impression one gets from the various accountings of the Chase history, Salmon did not like it very much, mainly because the hard work. There is an often told tale of what Salmon did one time to his uncle. He was instructed by Philander to butcher one of the farm pigs, which he did. However, he could not get the bristles off, even with the scalding in hot water. So either in desperation or to pull a trick on Philander, Salmon used his uncle’s razors and shaved the pig up as smooth as can be! When Philander returned from errands, Salmon was congratulated on the good looking job, but when the stern disciplinarian uncle later found his razors unusable for the human face, it is easy to speculate what measures might have been imposed upon the young lad of thirteen or fourteen. Salmon P. returned to his family in Keen, New Hampshire when he was fifteen in 1823. He tried teaching school for a while, but it did not work out. His mother made arrangements for him to live with his aunt Rachel Chase Denison in Royalton, Vermont. Rachel Denison was the wife of Joseph Denison; Doc Denison. The Denisons were a well know family in Royalton, many being doctors and lawyers; at least one living in Randolph. According to Lucy Denison Elder in writing of “The Story of the Old Church” (Old Christ Church, Bethel); Royalton was a promising village with an academy famous up and down the valley. Famous or not Salmon must have received a good education a this academy and from the school previous in Ohio, as when he was fifteen or sixteen he was accepted into Dartmouth College as a junior. He graduated in 1926 and then went to Washington, D.C. to study law. Local lure gives some impression that Salmon lived for a time at his Uncle Dudley’s in Randolph Center and studied law under him, however if one follows the time line laid out by biographer John Niven in “Salmon P. Chase”, there is no note of this. Mr. Niven is editor of the papers of Salmon P. Chase. Salmon from early on kept copious notes, journals and diaries and it seems likely that Mr. Niven would have picked up if Salmon P. Chase had indeed lived with the Honorable Dudley Chase. Dudley and Salmon Chase did interact when the latter first went to Washington, D. C. Salmon asked his uncle to use his political influence to obtain him a government clerkship appointment. He refused, saying; “I once obtained an appointment for a nephew and he was ruined by it. I determined not to do that again”. Dudley then gave him fifty cents; “to buy a spade”. (I don’t think Dudley Chase was being selfish or uncaring, but was essentially telling his nephew to WORK for what he needed) Salmon managed, studied law in D. C. under Honorable William A. Wirth and was admitted to the bar in 1829. Soon after that he went to Ohio to practice law. He became a stern advocate of the plight of the slaves, defending them in court and fighting for their rights in many ways. He also wrote many anti-slavery publications. In 1849 he was elected to the US Senate and served until 1855. He then served two terms as Ohio’s governor, after which time he returned to the US Senate. At the national Republican convention, he received a few votes for president, but he ultimately lost to Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln appointed him Secretary of the US Treasury 1861. When he came into office, only a few months before the Civil War, the US Treasury was depleted, the national debt heavily increased and the credit of the government was seriously impaired. Though, he had not the training nor experience in financial affairs, Salmon Chase was given the insurmountable task of finding money to finance the war. It is said the in the “Chase Chronicles” that Chase went before the bankers in New York to obtain a huge loan. He did not agree with the banker’s terms. And so he threatened? If they did not agree with his terms, he would issue paper money. The loan was granted. In the “Seven Generations of the Descendants of Aquila and Thomas Chase”, we read that; “If you cannot loan the government, I shall go back to Washington and issue notes for circulation; for it is certain that the war must go on until the rebellion is put down, if we have to put out paper until it takes a thousand dollars to buy a breakfast”. Chase and Lincoln were very different from each other. In the areas of money, Lincoln is quoted as saying; “Money! I don’t know anything about money. I never had enough of my own to fret”. When protests came to him regarding taxes and money matters, he referred them to Secretary Chase. When Chase consulted his president about financial issues, Lincoln’s often replied; “go ahead, you understand these things, I don’t”. Social issues also drew a line between these two giants. Lincoln came from humble background with little education and social connections. Salmon P. Chase, though he had hard times, he had influence. His uncles Senator Dudley Chase and Bishop Philander Chase are the immediate ones which comes to mind. One also gets the impression that Salmon P. had a sense of “entitlement”. In person he is described as; “very dignified, fond of form, proud of intellect, tenacious of precedents (Chase stubbornness), without wit or humour” Lincoln would be described in the opposite. Perhaps they complimented each other in the tasks at hand of running the government. They worked together (for the good of the country) though often at the other ends of the spectrum in personality, attributes and opinions. Though, Salmon P. Chase did not ever become president of the United States, he did have much to do with making history. While being Secretary of the Treasury he is credited to establishing the current banking system. Lincoln appointed him Chief Justice of the United States. The item for which he is best known while holding this office was his presiding over the impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson in 1868. In Salmon Portland Chase’s personal life, he suffered a great deal of grief, as his three wives and three children died. He died while still in office in 1873 .The reader may remember him by glancing at one’s ten thousand dollar bill, for that is his image on there. For those interested in more study the “Chase Chronicles are on the internet at: http://www.webnests.com/Chase/chronicles.htm Thank you Lonnie! This writer has the “Seven Generations of Aquila and Thomas Chase” “Salmon P. Chase” by John Niven. 1995 Also if you want to get at some almost original writings of Salmon P. Google has on-line a huge book; An Account of the Private Life and Public Services of Salmon Portland Chase By Robert Bruce Warden, 868 pages. I can’t get a decent URL on this now, I suppose because I’ve already “been there” and downloaded it. Harriet M. Chase, Curator of the Randolph (Vermont) Historical Society  

If you can scan a copy and send it to me, I might be able to help you out. I should have some records here that might help you with format, but so far I can't find them - I'm lost since my last move..... In general, you should see the names of the bride and groom, their parents, the place and date of the marriage, and maybe where they lived or even the occupation of the groom. Perhaps also the names of witnesses and their relationship to the couple. Dates are written out in words and sometimes have words in them denoting times like "yesterday" and some other odd designations that I can't remember offhand. Please contact me directly if you would like further help. Rachel At 02:54 PM 2/3/2009, you wrote: >I apologize if this is a duplicate- > >Hi- >I have a copy of an old Canadian registar of marriages that I need >translated. Its very faded and the print is sketchy. I have figured >out some of it, but if I had some help I think through context we >could figure gather more information about these people. >Any ideas on where to go to find help in this? >Thanks as always > > >************************************************* >List Guidelines: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/VermontWelcome.html >Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >VERMONT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message