I use Reunion and have for many years. There is nothing it cannot "do" and their support is the best! Joan Brady Norstedt On Mar 2, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Laurie D wrote: > A Question > I just bought a new IMac for "desktop" and I was wondering what is the best software for Geneagoly to get for the Imac. Which one is more compatiable and kind of easy to work with. > I looked up on line but I really couldn't get much info. I didn't want to download anything. > I kept running across FTM it sounds pretty good BUT!!! > I'll take all the help I can get. > Laurie D.

A Question I just bought a new IMac for "desktop" and I was wondering what is the best software for Geneagoly to get for the Imac. Which one is more compatiable and kind of easy to work with. I looked up on line but I really couldn't get much info. I didn't want to download anything. I kept running across FTM it sounds pretty good BUT!!! I'll take all the help I can get. Laurie D.

I am seeking information on PARENTS of James PARKER, b 1807 Granville (Kingston) and wife Mary Staples, b 1804 in Brookfield. I have both of their death records indicating Mary's father was Benjamin STAPLES, mother Mary WILSON. James's father was John married to Lucia. These families(including descendents) lived in Granville, Brookfield, Warren, Berlin, and Randolph. Karen Burzdak Napa, California [email protected]

check out this web site http://www.vermontgenealogy.com/history/spotted_fever_epidemic.htm it states "deaths in Vermont reached 6,000 by this disease alone, or about one death in 40 inhabitants. The disease is supposed to be the same as that now called cerebro-spinal-meningitis" Sylvia T On Mar 2, 2011, at 12:14 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Thanks- I knew that (for instance) Rocky Mt Spotted Fever was caused > by a tick, but wondered how that could be the issue in Vermont in > the winter of 1812? It evidently started in > Burlington within the Army that was stationed there in 1811 and then > "spread to the citizenry". Your probably right about the typhus. > Appreciate your help. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darrell A. Martin <[email protected]> > To: vermont <[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 9:05 am > Subject: Re: [VERMONT] spotted fever > > > On 3/2/2011 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: > What was "spotted fever" that was an epidemic and killed 6000 > Vermonters in > he winter of 1812. > Hi: > Probably typhus or meningitis. Today, "spotted fevers" are tick-borne > iseases. > Darrell > > ************************************** > ist Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > isit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ~vermont/ > ------------------------------- > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > he message > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Thanks- I knew that (for instance) Rocky Mt Spotted Fever was caused by a tick, but wondered how that could be the issue in Vermont in the winter of 1812? It evidently started in Burlington within the Army that was stationed there in 1811 and then "spread to the citizenry". Your probably right about the typhus. Appreciate your help. -----Original Message----- From: Darrell A. Martin <[email protected]> To: vermont <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2011 9:05 am Subject: Re: [VERMONT] spotted fever On 3/2/2011 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: What was "spotted fever" that was an epidemic and killed 6000 Vermonters in he winter of 1812. Hi: Probably typhus or meningitis. Today, "spotted fevers" are tick-borne iseases. Darrell ************************************** ist Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm isit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

On 3/2/2011 9:36 AM, [email protected] wrote: > What was "spotted fever" that was an epidemic and killed 6000 Vermonters in the winter of 1812. Hi: Probably typhus or meningitis. Today, "spotted fevers" are tick-borne diseases. Darrell

What was "spotted fever" that was an epidemic and killed 6000 Vermonters in the winter of 1812.

On 3/2/2011 12:54 AM, Mary Anne Smith wrote: > I have heard of Paris Green all my life, but don't really know the > chemical(s) that it is. It's probably a very common one!!!! I should ask > my husband, as he is an ex-chemistry teacher. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Green> Copper(II) acetoarsenite Darrell

On 3/2/2011 12:37 AM, Mary Anne Smith wrote: > Sorry to butt in on this message, but I see the name Rockingham. > > I have family who lived there........some still do, but I am out of touch > with them. > > Did/do you, by any chance? Know any Provosts, Grignons or anyone related to > them in that area??? > > My grandmother was a Grignon, born in Bellows Falls. > > Mary Anne Smith Mary Ann: The last of my ancestors to leave Rockingham did so in the 1800s. I did still have some relatives living in Saxtons River in the early 1900s, and an Aunt and Uncle HAINES living in Bellows Falls in the late 1900s. Don't know of any PROVOSTs, GRIGNONs, or relatives. Darrell

I have heard of Paris Green all my life, but don't really know the chemical(s) that it is. It's probably a very common one!!!! I should ask my husband, as he is an ex-chemistry teacher. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bev Thomson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Londonderry 10/16/1885 - Paris Green ID Paris Green is a strong poison. My Father used it as a rat et al poison when he raised pigs many yr's ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell A. Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Londonderry 10/16/1885 - Paris Green ID > On 1/19/2011 7:03 AM, Sylvia Tucker wrote: >> Wikipedia also says when it is known as Paris Green and not another >> name of which there are several it is a dye > > Sylvia: > > That may be true today, but I have read other New England accounts from > the 19th Century that mention "Paris Green". None that I can recall give > the impression it was a dye. Most suggest (or say explicitly) that it > was rat poison, which is why it was kept around the house, and why > suicides used it. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to butt in on this message, but I see the name Rockingham. I have family who lived there........some still do, but I am out of touch with them. Did/do you, by any chance? Know any Provosts, Grignons or anyone related to them in that area??? My grandmother was a Grignon, born in Bellows Falls. Mary Anne Smith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VERMONT] Dutton (was: cataract surgery ...) On 1/18/2011 5:49 PM, Neysa wrote: > Darrell: The DUTTON farmhouse in Springfield.... Would that be part of Ralph Dutton's family? His daughter graduated with me in Brattleboro, 1951. > Neysa Neysa: No, sorry. Of the 300 DUTTONs in my database, none are named Ralph. There were at least two significant branches of the DUTTON "clan" in early Vermont. The more famous centered on Salmon (Solomon) DUTTON of Cavendish. My mother's family centered on Rockingham and Springfield. Undoubtedly, other DUTTONs arrived later as well. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, you have stated that quite succinctly!!!! But, your point is well taken. Mankind is not kind toward man. And not very smart when it comes to sacrificing or planning ahead. I can even see in my lifetime that we are not the great power that we were directly after WW II. And probably all our luxuries and comforts have spoiled us to the point where we are so self-indulgent that we don't want to work any more..... or to do without anything that satisfies us immediately. Happy thoughts, huh? mas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:52 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Cataract surgery in 1885 On 3/1/2011 4:14 PM, Mary Anne Smith wrote: > It's frightening, isn't it? All these "advanced" civilizations of long ago > are now extinct. What happened to them? if they were all so smart??? > > I know one was buried in lava in Italy...but that doesn't explain all the > rest. Hi: One hundred thousand hungry barbarians with primitive culture and sharp swords (or working assault rifles) will destroy one thousand civilized people with hot and cold running water and flush toilets, every time. No advanced civilization, yet, can handle a massive nearby volcanic eruption, a large enough tsunami, or a series of 9.2 earthquakes, even if its literacy rate is over 98%. When an advanced civilization uses up its natural resources, threatening the food supply, its people will choose eating over poetry every time. When an advanced civilization packs too many people into too small a space, its advanced medicine will eventually not be able to react fast enough to stop the next virulent disease. When an advanced civilization makes it possible for some people to be consumers without being producers, and values its consumers as much as its producers, human nature will set in, every time. Eventually you have too few producers, and the civilization collapses of its own weight. In other words, War, Disaster, Famine, Plague, and Laziness. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I never knew what Paris Green was. My mother used to talk about it as a poison, when I was a kid.... But it was never anything we had in the house (of course!) and I haven't heard anything about it for years. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Londonderry 10/16/1885 - Paris Green ID According to Wikipedia Paris Green is a common name for copper(II) acetoarsenite , or C.I. Pigment Green 21 , an extremely toxic blue green chemical with four main uses: pigment , animal poison (mostly rodenticide ), insecticide , and blue colorant for fireworks . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 12:13:38 PM Subject: [VERMONT] Londonderry 10/16/1885 Vermont Tribune, Ludlow,  October 16, 1885 Londonderry 10/16/1885 Mrs. W. G. PORTER, living in Thompsonburg, in the east part of the town, committed suicide by taking paris green, last week.  She has been partially insane all summer, and was watched by friends, but on Monday she managed to get hold of some paris green at a neighbor's, and swallowed a teaspoonful. She died on Wednesday.  She leaves a husband and three children. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/1/2011 4:14 PM, Mary Anne Smith wrote: > It's frightening, isn't it? All these "advanced" civilizations of long ago > are now extinct. What happened to them? if they were all so smart??? > > I know one was buried in lava in Italy...but that doesn't explain all the > rest. Hi: One hundred thousand hungry barbarians with primitive culture and sharp swords (or working assault rifles) will destroy one thousand civilized people with hot and cold running water and flush toilets, every time. No advanced civilization, yet, can handle a massive nearby volcanic eruption, a large enough tsunami, or a series of 9.2 earthquakes, even if its literacy rate is over 98%. When an advanced civilization uses up its natural resources, threatening the food supply, its people will choose eating over poetry every time. When an advanced civilization packs too many people into too small a space, its advanced medicine will eventually not be able to react fast enough to stop the next virulent disease. When an advanced civilization makes it possible for some people to be consumers without being producers, and values its consumers as much as its producers, human nature will set in, every time. Eventually you have too few producers, and the civilization collapses of its own weight. In other words, War, Disaster, Famine, Plague, and Laziness. Darrell

Source, Rutland County Independent-- May 11, 1867. DEATHS. In Wallingford, May 2, of lung fever, Mrs. Sally Hager, wife of David Hager, aged 66 yrs. & 1 mo. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

Source, Rutland County Independent, May 25, 1867. DEATHS. In Poultney, May 17, Joseph M. Lewis, eldest son of the late David B. Lewis of Wells, aged 36 yrs. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

I couldn't resist looking up the current cost of education http://www.bestplaces.net/city/vermont/ludlow according to this site the current cost of education in 2010 was $9,172 per pupil Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[email protected]> > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, February 12, 1886 > > 124 different scholars have attended school, the past year, at a cost, per > scholar, of $7.05; 178 weeks of school, at a cost, per week, of $4.91. > total cost of schools, $874.45. 13 different teachers have been > employed--only one teacher through the year in the same district. > > Transcribed by Ruth Barton > -- > Ruth Barton > [email protected] > Dummerston, VT

I do not have the answer to your question, but I do know that some of the ancient civilizations were very advanced... but they went out of existence and little is left of what they achieved. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Cataract surgery in 1885 On 1/18/2011 4:36 PM, Joan Little wrote: > I'm laughing. My parents would be so surprised to think that flush toilets > were around in the 1600s. It would be interesting to know how they did > this. Did some slaves stand by and pour pails of water as needed? > > Not having your addy, I had to send this to the VT website. > > Joan in NH with paternal relatives from Vermont. Joan: That was 1,600 years BEFORE Christ that they had flush toilets in Knossos, Crete (an island southeast of mainland Greece). In Vermont, at least in the old Dutton farmhouse in Springfield, this convenience did not arrive until the 20th Century (somewhere about 1935 +/- 10 years). That last bit was to try to stay on topic for Vermont. Pretty iffy.... Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's frightening, isn't it? All these "advanced" civilizations of long ago are now extinct. What happened to them? if they were all so smart??? I know one was buried in lava in Italy...but that doesn't explain all the rest. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VERMONT] Cataract surgery in 1885 On 1/18/2011 11:12 AM, Neysa wrote: > Unless my eye doctor was joking, and he very seldom smiles, he said they did it in ancient Egypt. Says it wasn't very comfortable then....... > Neysa Neysa: In ancient Egypt they also did trepanning (boring a hole in the skull to relieve pressure). Apparently it worked, too. Well, at least sometimes it didn't kill the patient outright [grin]. There are mummies with HEALED trepanning scars. Sometimes it seems people think all knowledge started when we invented the computer. In the palace of Knossos in Crete, they had porcelain flush toilets and hot and cold running water. That was about 1600 BC. My grandparents didn't have those things in the family farmhouse in Springfield until the 1930s or 1940s. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Saffron cemetery is on Buck Hollow Rd Quite a way north of the center of town. Don Hayward On Mar 1, 2011, at 10:39 AM, MK <[email protected]> wrote: > Can anyone please tell me where the cemetery Buck Hollow is? I have a death > record from Fairfax, VT that says a person is buried there and I wanted to see > this cemetery is listed on Find-A-Grave and I can't seem to locate it. Maybe it > goes by another name? > > The person is Capt. William Loveland. > > Thanks for your help. > > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message