My grandfather loved crackers and milk, but he also liked popcorn in milk. Neysa ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell A. Martin To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Oysters... or, crackers and milk On 3/7/2011 3:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Good evening Darrell, > > I can relate to your description of the oyster stew...although, I can't > remember the frequency really, it was much more than annually...I loved > the smell and taste of them...but had to nearly close my eyes to eat > them. I didn't like the looks of them! I haven't had them in years!! > Thank you for the memory! > Crackers and all!!! > > Speaking of crackers..."crackers and milk" were a common "meal"...using > saltines generally and COLD milk...my kids and grands can't imagine > liking this! It was what I craved after the long labor/birth of my first > child...! And tasted just as I remembered it...so good! > > BATV Hi: I remember crackers and milk too, although as is so often the case, with variations. "Ours" was unsalted soda crackers in milk with sugar, eaten like a breakfast cereal. Best as you said with really cold milk; in our case, Jersey milk, which was about 1/3 cream. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 3/7/2011 3:29 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Good evening Darrell, > > I can relate to your description of the oyster stew...although, I can't > remember the frequency really, it was much more than annually...I loved > the smell and taste of them...but had to nearly close my eyes to eat > them. I didn't like the looks of them! I haven't had them in years!! > Thank you for the memory! > Crackers and all!!! > > Speaking of crackers..."crackers and milk" were a common "meal"...using > saltines generally and COLD milk...my kids and grands can't imagine > liking this! It was what I craved after the long labor/birth of my first > child...! And tasted just as I remembered it...so good! > > BATV Hi: I remember crackers and milk too, although as is so often the case, with variations. "Ours" was unsalted soda crackers in milk with sugar, eaten like a breakfast cereal. Best as you said with really cold milk; in our case, Jersey milk, which was about 1/3 cream. Darrell

Good evening Darrell, I can relate to your description of the oyster stew...although, I can't remember the frequency really, it was much more than annually...I loved the smell and taste of them...but had to nearly close my eyes to eat them. I didn't like the looks of them! I haven't had them in years!! Thank you for the memory! Crackers and all!!! Speaking of crackers..."crackers and milk" were a common "meal"...using saltines generally and COLD milk...my kids and grands can't imagine liking this! It was what I craved after the long labor/birth of my first child...! And tasted just as I remembered it...so good! BATV On 3/6/2011 9:09 PM, Neysa wrote: > I am amazed at all the references to oysters in these old papers. I am kind of surprised at this. Were oysters easy to obtain? Inexpensive? Any ideas on this? > Neysa Neysa: Oysters do seem to have been plentiful, once the railroads made it possible to ship them away from the ocean. However, there is another factor to consider. It appears that, for whatever length of time it was true, it was "in vogue" to feature oysters at social events. These are exactly the kind of events that are most likely to be reported by local newspapers. So what you get is an extremely imbalanced view of how often oysters were actually consumed. Growing up in Springfield, our family had oyster stew exactly once a year, every Christmas Eve. Other than tradition, and the "oyster crackers" that we seldom got at other times, I don't know what the attraction was. The "stew" was just a warm milk broth, salty with a light seafood-ish taste to it. We all seemed to like the stuff (although nobody but Dad wanted anything to do with the actual cooked oysters). Maybe it was the excitement of knowing tomorrow was The Big Day, or maybe it was because we were allowed to dump so many crackers in that they just barely got wet -- we *did* like those crackers. Regardless, it is a fond memory. Darrell ____________________________________________________________ Mortgage Rates Hit 2.99% If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Gov't Refi Programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d754e7d7bdc4db529st02vuc

Have you tried FindAGrave.Com? There are variant spellings of Kelly, Kelley and O'Kelly listed. Also try Kellie. Lawrence not listed but others you know may be there. he may not have a stone. Also info. on the cem. on the site. theclown16

my great grandmother was from Vermont and I have to wonder if my grandmother learned lacing from her i recall as a small girl my grandmother insisting i lace her up when she went out. boy it was tough to get it tight enough to please her. On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:41 PM, MK wrote: > While indexing Vermont vital records, I came across a death of a 17 > year old > girl, and her cause of death was listed as "tight lacing". I had > never heard > of this before. > > Upon searching for this term on the Internet, I found that this was > caused by > women heavy corrsetting in order to appear to have a very tiny > waistline, an > historical fashion trend. > > How awful to die this way, just for fashion and trying to be more > attractive. > > I relate this, I guess, to not be unlike today's eating disorders, > to some > degree. > > http://www.morbidoutlook.com/fashion/historical/1999_00_tightlace.html > > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Bev, I'm glad that your investigating my suggested route to find one or both of his wives. Hope that you find Caroline there! Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Thomson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] St-Joseph Cemetery, Burlington > Am hoping that someone might have access to St-Joseph > Cemetery, Burlington, Chit., VT records & might consider > a look-up for me. > My Pat. GrFather Lawrence O'KELLY d 22 January 1941 > and is buried there - Area A - Lot 104B > I would like to know who is buried w/him. > A very sincere thank you in advance for your help. > Bev > > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I love oyster stew! My oldest son used to call it dinosaur soup when he was about 3-5 years old. He loved it also. I had to put in a lot of oysters as he would eat a dozen or more at a meal ! He would ask for dinosaur soup at least once a week. I will have to ask him if he still likes oysters. I also love crackers and milk, I eat them about once a month or so! Lorraine Leslie Besmer

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, April 16, 1886 West Bridgewater 4/16/1886 Our best hay is selling at $12 per ton at the barns. Charles MADDEN has moved into Mrs. BUTLER's house on the farm. Five men in MADDEN's shop turned out twenty-thousand rounds, daily. Mrs. Constantine ADAMS visited friends in this place, last week. Will WILLIS has moved into the house with Ellen HADLEY, on the hill. E. B. SANDERSON of Plymouth commenced work for J. N. MADDEN, April 1st. It is reported that Fred SPAULDING intends to build a new house, this spring. F. G. SPAULDING is suffering from an attack of sciatic rheumatism. E. J. DOYLE is also on the sick-list. The Woodstock and Rutland stage makes its round trip on wheels, not-withstanding the large drifts in Sherburne Hollow. Mrs. Richard BRADLEY, formerly of this town, who has been living West, several years, arrived in town with her oldest son, a short time ago. We have a rare specimen of a small boy in the person of Master Clyde SPAULDING. He is nearly five years old, and weighs less than thirty pounds. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, April 16, 1886 Shrewsbury 4/16/1886 E. H. ALDRICH started for Dakota, last Monday. Jerome ATWOOD has lost four cows from some unknown cause, this spring. The best sap run of the season last Friday and Saturday. It looks now as if sugaring was about over for this year. DUNN, of the firm of DUNN& CRAMPTON of Rutland, has been in town, the past week, buying up large quantities of maple sugar. He pays eight cents per pound for good sugar. (Article about a HARRIS having cows poisoned. Mice have gotten to this portion of paper. RHB)The people in the east part of the town are considerably stirred up about the matter, and if the person should be found out it might go hard with him; for a person that will deliberately murder his neighbors cattle will murder his neighbor as well, if he thought he could escape detection. We don't want such people in town. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, April 16, 1886 Rutland 4/16/1886 $4,500 has been pledged, here, towards building a Universalist church. The Rutland Bicycle club will soon disband and re-organize under a new name. The search for the body of Edward HAMMOND, who was drowned here, April 3d, still continues with out success. John MANGAN, an employe of the Vermont Marble Co. at Center Rutland, was severely injured, last Wednesday, by a derrick-chain falling and striking him on the head and shoulders. Since the recent accident in the Foster Marble quarry, at West Rutland, great uneasiness is felt in regard to the safety of this and other quarries. Extra precautions are being taken to prevent another disaster. Geo. WINNE was arrested, Monday, April 5th, for criminal assault on a 14-year-old girl. His trial before Justice BAILEY, Friday, resulted in his being bound over in the sum of $500, to await the action of the Grand Jury. He was committed in default. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, April 16, 1886 Mechanicsville 4/16/1886 George CLARK is dangerously ill. Miss Delia KNIGHT has returned from a three months' visit to friends in Boston. We understand that Miss Ella G. WHITE will teach one of the village schools in Ludlow, this summer. Miss Frances TARBELL, and Miss Emma GOULD of Ludlow, have been engaged to teach the schools in this village. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, April 16, 1886 Peru 4/16/1886 Our sick seem to be improving, with the exception of H. O. DAVIS, whom we think is gradually failing. M. J. HAPGOOD, wife, and Miss Susie, returned from their visiting tour, last Monday evening. Miss Della remains, for awhile, with her aunt in Boston, to take music lessons. Our teachers are fast being picked up. Mary SAWYER in district No. 1, Mary LYON in No. 2, Miss BOWEN in No. 3, Mary BURROUGHS in No. 4. Ellen SIMONDS goes to Manchester, and Annie BURROUGHS to Winhall. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

Am hoping that someone might have access to St-Joseph Cemetery, Burlington, Chit., VT records & might consider a look-up for me. My Pat. GrFather Lawrence O'KELLY d 22 January 1941 and is buried there - Area A - Lot 104B I would like to know who is buried w/him. A very sincere thank you in advance for your help. Bev

Thanks, Sylvia. I do find that interesting. I am kinda hung up on oysters in Vermont now, thanks to Ruth's newspaper articles. Neysa ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvia Tucker To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Oysters you might find this clip from Google books interesting Industries and wealth of the principal points in Vermont By American Publishing and Engraving Co 1891 "FRANK M CORRY Oysters Fresh and Salt Fish of all Kinds One of the first indications of a city's prosperity is the condition of her markets In this respect Montpelier ranks with the foremost towns of Vermont the class of her supplies being of an order so high that the mind of the public is at once attracted It is in this line of business that Mr Frank M Corry is engaged his attention being given to dealing in oysters fresh and salt fish of all kinds every sort of vegetable in season all varieties of fruits nuts and delicacies while he makes a specialty of handling the best brands of canned goods and also takes pride in presenting before his customers the best confections from the standard manufacturers in the country Mr Corry established his business in 1877"

you might find this clip from Google books interesting Industries and wealth of the principal points in Vermont By American Publishing and Engraving Co 1891 "FRANK M CORRY Oysters Fresh and Salt Fish of all Kinds One of the first indications of a city's prosperity is the condition of her markets In this respect Montpelier ranks with the foremost towns of Vermont the class of her supplies being of an order so high that the mind of the public is at once attracted It is in this line of business that Mr Frank M Corry is engaged his attention being given to dealing in oysters fresh and salt fish of all kinds every sort of vegetable in season all varieties of fruits nuts and delicacies while he makes a specialty of handling the best brands of canned goods and also takes pride in presenting before his customers the best confections from the standard manufacturers in the country Mr Corry established his business in 1877" On Mar 7, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Neysa wrote: > I know Mom made a great oyster stew. When she and Dad moved to RI > they had it quite often. I never thought to ask her how she learned > to make it. We did have it, but rarely, in Brattleboro as I grew > up. You are probably right; the events thing made me more aware of > it. > Neysa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darrell A. Martin > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:36 AM > Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Oysters > > > On 3/6/2011 9:09 PM, Neysa wrote: >> I am amazed at all the references to oysters in these old papers. >> I am kind of surprised at this. Were oysters easy to obtain? >> Inexpensive? Any ideas on this? >> Neysa > > Neysa: > > Oysters do seem to have been plentiful, once the railroads made it > possible to ship them away from the ocean. However, there is another > factor to consider. It appears that, for whatever length of time it > was > true, it was "in vogue" to feature oysters at social events. These > are > exactly the kind of events that are most likely to be reported by > local > newspapers. So what you get is an extremely imbalanced view of how > often > oysters were actually consumed. > > Growing up in Springfield, our family had oyster stew exactly once a > year, every Christmas Eve. Other than tradition, and the "oyster > crackers" that we seldom got at other times, I don't know what the > attraction was. The "stew" was just a warm milk broth, salty with a > light seafood-ish taste to it. We all seemed to like the stuff > (although > nobody but Dad wanted anything to do with the actual cooked oysters). > Maybe it was the excitement of knowing tomorrow was The Big Day, or > maybe it was because we were allowed to dump so many crackers in that > they just barely got wet -- we *did* like those crackers. > Regardless, it > is a fond memory. > > Darrell > > > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > *************************************** > List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm > Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I know Mom made a great oyster stew. When she and Dad moved to RI they had it quite often. I never thought to ask her how she learned to make it. We did have it, but rarely, in Brattleboro as I grew up. You are probably right; the events thing made me more aware of it. Neysa ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell A. Martin To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Oysters On 3/6/2011 9:09 PM, Neysa wrote: > I am amazed at all the references to oysters in these old papers. I am kind of surprised at this. Were oysters easy to obtain? Inexpensive? Any ideas on this? > Neysa Neysa: Oysters do seem to have been plentiful, once the railroads made it possible to ship them away from the ocean. However, there is another factor to consider. It appears that, for whatever length of time it was true, it was "in vogue" to feature oysters at social events. These are exactly the kind of events that are most likely to be reported by local newspapers. So what you get is an extremely imbalanced view of how often oysters were actually consumed. Growing up in Springfield, our family had oyster stew exactly once a year, every Christmas Eve. Other than tradition, and the "oyster crackers" that we seldom got at other times, I don't know what the attraction was. The "stew" was just a warm milk broth, salty with a light seafood-ish taste to it. We all seemed to like the stuff (although nobody but Dad wanted anything to do with the actual cooked oysters). Maybe it was the excitement of knowing tomorrow was The Big Day, or maybe it was because we were allowed to dump so many crackers in that they just barely got wet -- we *did* like those crackers. Regardless, it is a fond memory. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While indexing Vermont vital records, I came across a death of a 17 year old girl, and her  cause of death was listed as "tight lacing".  I had never heard of this before. Upon searching for this term on the Internet, I found that this was caused by women heavy corrsetting in order to appear to have a very tiny waistline, an historical fashion trend. How awful to die this way, just for fashion and trying to be more attractive. I relate this, I guess, to not be unlike today's eating disorders, to some degree. http://www.morbidoutlook.com/fashion/historical/1999_00_tightlace.html

Source: The Glens Falls NY Morning Star, Saturday, October 8, 1898 Marriage Announcement: Cards have been issued for the marriage of Miss Mary E. Haugh, of Hampton, Washington county, to John W. Ducey, of Hydeville, Vt. The event will occur at the Catholic church in Hampton on Wednesday afternoon next at five o'clock. The prospective bride formerly lived in Glens Falls, and is a sister of Misses Nellie C. and Anna B. Haugh. Transcribed by: Janice B. Edwards, Poultney, Vt

Source: The Morning Star (Glens Falls, NY), February 16, 1907 HAIR CAUGHT IN SHAFTING; GIRL HAS NARROW ESCAPE Special to The Star Fair Haven, Vt., Feb. 15 - Saved from a horrible death by a fellow employee cutting her hair off. Miss Anna Delehanty, fourteen years old, employed in the United Shirt and Collar company's factory here, is in a critical condition at her home in Hydeville, Vt., with her scalp loosened from her head and the muscles of her neck strained, by her hair catching in a shaft while at her work here this afternoon. She stooped over to pick up a bobbin on the floor when her hair which was a long braid, caught in the shafting of the machinery. She was drawn well onto the shaft, her hair winding round and round when someone shut the power off. Someone else through a mistake, turned it on again, pulling her head onto the shaft. A fellow employee acted with presence of mind and cut her hair off, just in time to save her from a horrible death, though she pleaded that her hair be not cut. Transcribed by: Janice B. Edwards, Poultney, Vt

On 3/6/2011 9:09 PM, Neysa wrote: > I am amazed at all the references to oysters in these old papers. I am kind of surprised at this. Were oysters easy to obtain? Inexpensive? Any ideas on this? > Neysa Neysa: Oysters do seem to have been plentiful, once the railroads made it possible to ship them away from the ocean. However, there is another factor to consider. It appears that, for whatever length of time it was true, it was "in vogue" to feature oysters at social events. These are exactly the kind of events that are most likely to be reported by local newspapers. So what you get is an extremely imbalanced view of how often oysters were actually consumed. Growing up in Springfield, our family had oyster stew exactly once a year, every Christmas Eve. Other than tradition, and the "oyster crackers" that we seldom got at other times, I don't know what the attraction was. The "stew" was just a warm milk broth, salty with a light seafood-ish taste to it. We all seemed to like the stuff (although nobody but Dad wanted anything to do with the actual cooked oysters). Maybe it was the excitement of knowing tomorrow was The Big Day, or maybe it was because we were allowed to dump so many crackers in that they just barely got wet -- we *did* like those crackers. Regardless, it is a fond memory. Darrell