On 3/27/2011 4:11 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 > > PLYMOUTH 1/4/1889 > > Julia KAVANAH is not improving very fast. She was carried to the church, > Christmas eve, to see and enjoy the Christmas festival with the > Sabbath-school children. Julia was taken with what baffles the doctors; > she can neither use her hands nor feet--can't walk a step, nor feed > herself, but creeps about the house like a little child. Hi: For those who might be interested, this psychologically-induced condition is called "hysteria", "hysterical conversion", "conversion reaction", or "conversion disorder". The reason Julia's doctors were baffled is because there is no reasonable physical mechanism by which one can lose the use of hands and feet but not arms and legs. Darrell

Darrell, I suppose it is some sort of coping mechanism for the brain. There is a lot of that happening these days (shell-shock, etc) and back then the world was even more mysterious. Alice -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] PLYMOUTH 1/4/1889 On 3/27/2011 11:05 PM, Alice Gordon wrote: > Is that something she would recover from? Alice: Very possibly, if there were no permanent physical damage as a result of moving about on hands and knees. The condition is psychological in origin, there is actually nothing wrong with the body. Freud, who was developing his psychoanalytical practice in Vienna at the time, would have used a "talking cure"; Charcot would have used hypnosis; but the best hope might have been that the condition would go away spontaneously. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is that something she would recover from? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] PLYMOUTH 1/4/1889 On 3/27/2011 4:11 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 > > PLYMOUTH 1/4/1889 > > Julia KAVANAH is not improving very fast. She was carried to the church, > Christmas eve, to see and enjoy the Christmas festival with the > Sabbath-school children. Julia was taken with what baffles the doctors; > she can neither use her hands nor feet--can't walk a step, nor feed > herself, but creeps about the house like a little child. Hi: For those who might be interested, this psychologically-induced condition is called "hysteria", "hysterical conversion", "conversion reaction", or "conversion disorder". The reason Julia's doctors were baffled is because there is no reasonable physical mechanism by which one can lose the use of hands and feet but not arms and legs. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, I never heard about that. I would suggest at least very, very tired!! Neysa ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Anne Smith To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 Did anyone happen to tell what the MOTHER looked like, after she delivered that gigantic offspring???? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 On 2/12/2011 6:47 PM, Neysa wrote: > Our friends in Minnesota told us about a local baby born 17 lbs. +...they said they put shoes on him, handed him a lunchbox, and stuck him on the school bus. > Neysa Neysa: He probably had to take the cigar out of his mouth to explain they wouldn't take him in kindergarten. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Source, Rutland Daily Herald--Feb 23, 1910. EAST CLARENDON. The winter term of school closed Friday. Number of pupils enrolled, 17, average attendance, 15. Those who had no absent marks during the term were Justin, Raymond and Mildred Baker, Mary Doty, Dewey Drinwater, Gordon and Harold Grover, and Ralph Smith. Burt Drinwater and Gilbert Pierce were absent only one day. Miss Ella Q. Bunker is the teacher. Transcribed by, Joan H. Bixby

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JNichols7769 Surnames: Howard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5078.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I still think if it was an adoption that went through an agency (such as the Elizabeth Lund Home in Burlington, VT) that you would be able to obtain records. If it was just an adoption between individuals, perhaps no papers were filed anywhere. I was able to find the name of the mother of a woman who contacted me. She was born in the Elizabeth Lund Home about 1928, and by using the non-identifying information she obtained through the Vermont Adoption Registry, and by a lot of good luck, I found the name of the mother and my person was able to find siblings and learn a lot about her mother's family. She later obtained the name and information about her father. I believe if you were willing to supply more information about your grandfather who was born in that time period, information could be found. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jashleyodell Surnames: Howard, Fortin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5078.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. I've already tried doing a search for FORTIN families in the 1930 Census and found none in Windham County; they all appear to be in or right around Burlington. It might have been a case of a long-distance adoption, or perhaps he even was originally from New Hampshire or Massachusetts due to proximity. Maybe I will try searching through those next, however. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jashleyodell Surnames: Howard, Fortin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5078.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Joann, Thanks for the reply. I've already tried working with the Vermont Adoption Registry several times and have been told there is no way they can assist me. They also denied my grandfather access to his own records. This is due to Vermont having different rules and regulations related to when the adoptee was born, when the adoption took place, and I believe also when the birth mother died. (This is why they have the reputation that they do nationwide.) His adoption happened to take place during a time period with fully sealed documents -- in fact, he couldn't even get an original birth certificate. So I'm afraid that is not an option, and that is why I am trying to find information on-line. Thank you for your input, however; I do appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JNichols7769 Surnames: howard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5078.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't believe that Vermont has the most draconian/difficult rules regarding adoption! I suggest that you contact the Vermont Adoption Registry, 103 Main Street, Waterbury, VT 05671-2401; telephone 802-241-2122. I believe there is a website, but the brochure I have is from 1998 and does not show that. Here is a section from that brochure. Who can request non-identifying information? Adult or emancipated adoptees; Adoptive parents or the adoptee's legal guardian; The descendant of an adoptee who is deceased; Birthparents; Birth grandparents; Birth siblings (half or whole). As theclown says, give what information you know about your grandfather and about the Howard family that adopted him. There used to be many Howard/Hayward families in the Townshend area of Windham County. Someone will be able to help you, I feel sure. Joann Nichols [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5074.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Upper NY State not far from VT. 1870 United States Federal Census about Albert H Perkins Name: Albert H Perkins Birth Year: abt 1866 Age in 1870: 4 Birthplace: New York Home in 1870: Watertown Ward 1, Jefferson, New York Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: Household Members: Name Age Rardon T Perkins 37 Amanda Perkins 30 Alice D Perkins 10 Albert H Perkins 4 Willington Lewis 24 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Shelley has a photo she would like to get to a member of the family.  o I am forwarding her message. Harriet --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Shelley Cardiel <[email protected]> wrote: I've "rescued" an old photograph of Fannie DOANE which was taken at the Kuhn's Gallery in Atlanta, Georgia.  The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1860's or 1870's with Fannie just an infant at the time the photograph was taken.  Based on limited research and thanks to the assistance of a DOANE Family Researcher I was able to gather the following information regarding Fannie and her family: Fannie Treat DOANE was b. 27 Sept 1869 in GA to parents John Adams DOANE (b. 28 Jun 1825 in Preston, CT) and Dannie C. JOHNSON SPENCER (b. abt 1825). The couple had two children together, Fannie and a sister Mattie Lovejoy DOANE b. 1871.  Fannie died 18 Nov 1884 in Atlanta, GA.  Fannie's sister Mattie married Manley A. SPARKS and they had sons, John Doane SPARKS b. 1900 in AL and died 1988 in Palmetto, FL and Manley A. SPARKS Jr. b. 1902 and d. 1975 in Atlanta, GA, and then a daughter Katherine May SPARKS b. 1910. Census records provide the following information: 1870 census of Atlanta, GA: John A. DOANE, age 39, no occupation, born NY C. D. DOANE, age 26, Keeping House, born GA Fannie DOANE, age 1, born GA Allen SPENCER, age 8, at School, born GA + 1 Carriage Driver + 2 Servants 1880 census of Atlanta, GA: John DOANE, age 54, born CT, a Bookkeeper, parents born MA/CT Donnie DOANE, wife, age 37, born GA, Keeping House, parents born GA Fannie DOANE, dau, age 10, born GA, at School Mattie DOANE, dau, age 9, born GA, at School Allen SPENCER, step-son, age 17, born GA, parents born FL/GA Thomas JOHNSON, brother, age 30, born GA, parents born GA Eliza BALDWIN, other, age 50, born CT, parents born CT + 2 servants I am hoping to locate someone from Fannie's family so that this wonderful old treasure can be returned to the care of her family.  If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclown16 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/5078.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Post his name and birth date. It may be possible to list all the Fortin's in the area from census data and connect him. At least that may be one way of searching for him. Putting him in context in 1930 census may be a starting point. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 PLYMOUTH 1/4/1889 Julia KAVANAH is not improving very fast. She was carried to the church, Christmas eve, to see and enjoy the Christmas festival with the Sabbath-school children. Julia was taken with what baffles the doctors; she can neither use her hands nor feet--can't walk a step, nor feed herself, but creeps about the house like a little child. Martha LYNDS is improving slowly; not able to talk yet. One of the other children is reported down with diphtheria. Leslie WALKER took possession of the Notch store, Dec. 31st, Geo. M. MOORE going to Tyson. Warren SPAULDING spent one day in town, last week. Wonder if he came to see Jennie? (Mr. Editor, don't leave this last line out.) Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 Simonsville 1/4/1889 Miss Josie LILLEY returned to Northampton, Mass., Tuesday. W. P. DODGE of Chester is shingling the house and ell of his father's old place. The steam mill has been put in running order. What is wanting is sledding and a plenty of logs, to give business a boom. George C. BIDWELL of Bellows Falls has sold his farm, known as the SHELDON place, to Mr. POTTER of Bridgewater, Mr. POTTER will move into the house on the STODDARD place and live till the house on his new purchase is vacated. There is a report that the PARKHURST place has been sold to parties from Chattanooga, Tenn., who will fix it for a summer residence. Francis P. FULLER went to Rutland, last week, to spend the winter with his son, A. P. FULLER Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 South Londonderry 1/4/1889 Bona JOHNSON returned, Wednesday, from a New Year visit in Wardsboro. Elba FORD is visiting in Pawlet. Ida JENKINS is home on a visit. Winfield WRIGHT is very low. Mrs. Deacon KINSMAN has had a partial shock of paralysis. Walter DAVENPORT has moved into the house with Mrs. Hiram STEWART. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 Londonderry 1/4/1889 A. S. HAYWARD has returned from Massachusetts. We are pleased to report that the condition of Esquire WAITE is somewhat improved, although recovery is doubtful. Miss Nettie PEASE of Weston is at work for L. P. SHELDON. Harry ARTHUR of Chester made a flying visit to this place, recently. Wm. SILLEY spent Christmas at home. Miss Marjorie DEY gave a Christmas party to her little friends, Tuesday afternoon. A large party attended J. P. FARWELL's New Years ball, Tuesday evening. At the second shoot of the Londonderry Gun Club, last Saturday, B. SPARROW carried off the honors by shooting six out of ten pigeons. The JOHNSON Bros. held their first singing-school at the school house, last Thursday evening. Jan. 1st witnessed the wedding of Frank SPARROW and Mary WHITMAN, which occurred at the church in this place. As for us, we wish them a happy and long life. News has been received here of the death, in Belvidere, Ill., of George LARRABEE, formerly of this place. He was but 22 years of age, and has for two years been engaged as a fireman on the N. W. railroad. His remains will be brought here for interment. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

The Vermont Tribune, Ludlow, Friday, January 4, 1889 Windham 1/4/1889 Widow Clark STEARNS is very low, and grave fears are entertained about her recovery. Ward P. CLAYTON is said to be the victim of a cancerous humor (tumor? RHB) which is developing fast. Charles Henry HOWARD, son-in-law of C. H. CONVERSE, is stopping with his dad-in-law, this winter; but his Rose will bloom around the Aaron BEMIS place, when Spring opens. Frank STOWELL is dead. It will be remembered that he was the boy who was instrumental in Miss Constance UPHAM's leg being broken, a year ago last Summer. The County Court found him deserving of a punishment of three years stay at the work-house at Rutland. Frank has not been right in his mind since he went there (and we greatly doubt if he was before); was full of strange misgivings, believing he was going to be hung, and many other vague notions. A report got into circulation, last Summer, that he had tried to get away; but that was all false, as we saw a letter from the Superintendent who said Frank has been a good boy, and had given them no trouble, being very passive in his disposition. It was a sad blow to the family who had heretofore borne a good reputation, and now they are called upon to supplement that sorrow by his death. He was taken Saturday, the 23d ult., with a sore throat, which proved to be diphtheria, and Wednesday morning found Frank had paid all fines, and worked out all sentences which could be imposed on him; had paid the debt of nature, and was dead. One word about the young lady, and we will lay down the pen concerning this distasteful subject. Miss UPHAM is a very worthy young lady, and nothing can be said against her. She taught a term of school this last Fall, giving good satisfaction. She has so far recovered from the breaking of her limb to be able to walk quite well, though with a limp or halting gait which she will probably carry through life. Transcribed by Ruth Barton -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT

Did anyone happen to tell what the MOTHER looked like, after she delivered that gigantic offspring???? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darrell A. Martin Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 On 2/12/2011 6:47 PM, Neysa wrote: > Our friends in Minnesota told us about a local baby born 17 lbs. +...they said they put shoes on him, handed him a lunchbox, and stuck him on the school bus. > Neysa Neysa: He probably had to take the cigar out of his mouth to explain they wouldn't take him in kindergarten. Darrell *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your dad sounds like he was a great guy, with a unique sense of humor. I had one like that, and I miss him SO much, now that he is gone... -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Neysa Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 I love it, Alice!! Neysa ----- Original Message ----- From: Alice Gordon To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 I think they were trying to be clever. When I was born (1942) my dad (he who was born in Barre 1899) sent out penny post cards announcing that another war bond buyer had entered the Gordon household and is now the loud ruler of the battalion. It was cute and I was delighted to find one that he kept in his safety deposit box all these years - it was discovered when the estate was settled. Alice Gordon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruth Barton Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VERMONT] Sherburne 12/11/1885 Sylvia, I don't wonder at your response, I had to read it several times before I "got it." As others have already stated it is a rather oblique birth announcement. There are several others in a similar vein. I don't know whether they were trying to be cute or if the Victorian times caught up with them and the "upper crust" didn't talk about crass things like giving birth. Just a sign of the times, I guess. Ruth Sherburne 12/11/1885 HUH? On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > t is curious how people will talk about their neighbors. Just now the > current points to Wm. DOUBLEDAY. Some say he is lucky, others say he > "missed it," hiring a fellow to work for him this winter. In > reality it's > on one's business but their own. Weight of the fellow, 9 1/2 > pounds, Dec. > 1st. -- Ruth Barton [email protected] Dummerston, VT *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** List Guidelines: http://home.sprynet.com/~darrellm/list_rules.htm Visit the Gateway to Vermont Web Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KarenTlumach Surnames: Barkhau, Wendel, Bauer, Hartmann Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.vermont.unknown/1527.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello - Are you still working on the Barkhau family? I'm researching that family as a gift for my best friend and his mother, and would like to collaborate with you if possible. My Barkhau family in the US was located primarily in Ohio, but came from Germany, as I imagine yours did. Let me know, okay? Karen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.