<< ... Found John "MConkey" listed in Washington County, VA in 1810 census. ... >> There were three McCONKEY's listed on the last three lines of page 705 of the 1810 WC census. As this census was enumerated basically by going neighbor to neighbor and not put in order alphabetically as was done for the 1820, 1830 and 1840 censuses, those three McCONKEY's most likely lived next to or near each other and were related. They were the only McCONKEY's in that census. McCONKEY, John, 02010 - 42010 McCONKEY, Sam'l, 00001 - 00101 McCONKEY, Sam'l, 20100 - 20010 The only McCONKEY that had a boy under 10 in his household in this 1810 c ensus was the Samuel on the last line. As John Jesse named his first son Sam, and John Jesse was born in 1807 (therefore under 10 years old in 1810), would Samuel and John Jesse be a good match for father and son? Neighbors of the McCONKEY's in the 1810 census were William, John and John CARMACH, Jr. Joseph GRAY was granted a Land Grant on 28 October 1800 for 24 acres on the waters of Sinking Creek, a north branch of the Holston River. His adjoining neighbors were John McCONKEY, John CORMACK and John CLAYMOND. [VA Land Office Land Grant Book 46:371-372]. John CLAYMOND was granted a Land Grant on 22 Oct 1800 for 17 acres on the waters of Sinking Creek, a north branch of the Holston River. [VA Land Office Land Grant Book 47:272-273]. 07 May 1812 -- Washington County, Virginia District Court Deed Book B:322: John SHARP Sullivan Co., TN owed 2,000 to John McCONKEY. "The condition of the above obligation is such that whereas the above named John McCONKEY and Jane his wife have mutually agreed to dissolve their matrimonial union, to separate and live no longer together as man and wife, and having agreed on a division of the property owned by said John McCONKEY. Now if the said Jane McCONKEY shall not claim any of the property which the said John McCONKEY now has in his possession by the division aforesaid, or which the said John McCONKEY may hereafter acquire, and if the above bound John SHARP shall by his last Will and Testament devise a certain tract or parcel of land lying and being in the Counties of Washington in Virginia and Sullivan in Tennessee containing" 228 "acres ... to the aforesaid Jane McCONKEY and to her children ..." Witnesses: Andrew RUSSELL, A. McHENRY, S.T. CONN, P.A.G. STEWART. Recorded: At Superior Court of Law held for Washington County the 7th May 1812. [Source: "Washington County, Virginia District Court Deed Book B, 1801-1840" (2004), by Thomas & Jane COLLEY, pages 143-144]. 07 May 1812 -- Washington County, Virginia District Court Deed Book B:323-324: John McCONKEY to John SHARP, the above tract. Adjoining neighbors: John CLAYMAN, Wm. RHEA, and Alexander LAUGHLIN. (The Colley's book gives the mets and bounds). [Source: "Washington County, Virginia District Court Deed Book B, 1801-1840" (2004), by Thomas & Jane COLLEY, page 144]. Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidGoossens Surnames: McConkey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.washington/607.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am searching for the father of John Jesse McConkey born in VA abt 1807 - he(John Jesse) married Rachel Welbourn 1826 and moved to TN (Monroe County). Best I can tell, he had 12 children from Sam born 1827 to Elizabeth born 1845. Found John "MConkey" listed in Washington County, VA in 1810 census. I am granddaughter of John Richmond McConkey from Saline County, Ar. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

You can also find abstracts of all Washington County surveys that are in in WC Survey Book 1 ( 1781 - 1797 ) at: http://www.newrivernotes.com/va/washsurv.htm Also all WC surveys from 1781 through 1890 are on one microfilm reel -- WC Survey Book 1 ( 1781 - 1797 ) LDS microfilm # 00034377 (pages 1-500) WC Survey Book 2 ( 1797 - 1836 ) LDS microfilm # 00034377 (pages start over with page 1 and end with page 558) WC Survey Book 3 ( 1836 - 1890 ) LDS microfilm # 00034377 (pages start over again with page 1) The books have metes & bounds and a plat of the survey. - - - - - - - - - - Pennsylvania also had laws to get people established on their settlement lands that had not used the regular Warrant process -- called the East Side Applications or the West Side Applications (East and West of the Susquehanna River). Because people had settled on unwarranted land, a process for accepting applications was carried out from August 1766 to August 1769. An index to and images of the West Side Applications can be found at: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/Bah/DAM/rg/di/r17-40WestSideApps/r17-40MainInterfa ce.htm The East Side Applications at: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/BAH/DAM/rg/di/r17-35EastSideApps/r17-35MainInterfa ce.htm Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Thank you very much to all those who responded to my questions about assignees, warrants and Commissioner's Certificates, especially Renee, Bob & Wm. You have all given me a much better understanding of land and deed records. I have spent a little time looking at Library of VA website but obviously I have many more hours of reading in their Patents & Land Grants area ahead of me. I have a direct ancestor who was awarded a land patent (under the Homestead Act) in northern Michigan in 1881 for a piece of property that he and neighbors certified was improved by him over 5 years that he lived there. Because of this I believe I was looking at the process for acquiring land in a pretty narrow light. Thanks for opening that up for me, I appreciate all your input and suggestions. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: FORDREDJ@aol.com To: VAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Cc: rebailey53v8@wowway.com ; gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [VAWASHIN] Commissioners Certificates In a message dated 1/16/2008 2:17:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, rebailey53v8@wowway.com writes: << Is this certificate the same as a land warrant? >> Mary B. Kegley, in her book "Early Adventures on the Western Waters, Volume II, pages 98 - 101 give a good explaination on Commissioners Certificates and the reasons behind them. "Many of the early adventurers on the Western Waters had been able, under the colonial system, to claim their land by means of a survey, live on and improve it, and when the money was available pay the necessary fees in order to obtain the patent or grant. However, the years of war -- first the skirmishes with the French and Indians (1755-1761), next with the Shawnee Indians (1774), and then the onset of the American Revolution -- caused great confusion, many delays, and much uncertainty regarding the status of their land claims." ... "However, an exception was made for the "great numbers of people" who had settled "in the country upon the western waters." They had been prevented from obtaining patents or legal titles by the Proclamation of 1763, by the change of government, and by the Revolutionary War, although they had in many instances lived on their lands for as many as fifteen to twenty years. For those who risked losing their lands, the Virginia lawmakers made allowances. For all persons who "had bona fide settled themselves or their families" on the Western Waters prior to January 1, 1778 on lands which no other person claimed, the allowance was 400 acres (or less if they chose) which would include that part settled by them. ..." It's difficult to compress all Mary wrote on the subject to a simple explaination, but basically Commissioners Certificates were an additional form of land claim and were not warrants, but were another way of acquiring up to 400 acres of land where it could be proved that the "family" had made a "crop of corn" on the land or resided on the land at least one year. All Commissioners certificates were dated 1781 and 1782. The commissioners had designated districts, Washington and Montgomery Counties being one district. Four commissioners were appointed to each district, but they could not live in that district. The district clerk was James REID. Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wmwillis2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.washington/4154/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In Virginia commissioners certificates were issued in Washington County to claim land settled prior to 1778. Basically all that was required was that you had to have settled the property prior to 1778. Most records for such certificates, such as surveyors records using a commissioner's certificate include an explicit date of settlement. However, a certificate could be assigned to third party. If a commissioners certificate were assigned, is it possible that the specific parcel referred to in a record was NOT the one the assigner actually settled? That is, might he have settled some other property, gained a certificate, but then instead of recording that settlement, assigned the certificate to someone else, and that person used the certificate as the basis for securing rights to a totally difference parcel? Ultimately, the question is of interest because I'm trying to determine who was the original settler on a number of parcels in Washington Co. I presume its the person who earned the certificate in the first place, but possibly not for the reasons suggested above. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 1/16/2008 2:17:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, rebailey53v8@wowway.com writes: > << Is this certificate the same as a land warrant? >> Mary B. Kegley, in her book "Early Adventures on the Western Waters, Volume II, pages 98 - 101 give a good explaination on Commissioners Certificates and the reasons behind them. "Many of the early adventurers on the Western Waters had been able, under the colonial system, to claim their land by means of a survey, live on and improve it, and when the money was available pay the necessary fees in order to obtain the patent or grant. However, the years of war -- first the skirmishes with the French and Indians (1755-1761), next with the Shawnee Indians (1774), and then the onset of the American Revolution -- caused great confusion, many delays, and much uncertainty regarding the status of their land claims." ... "However, an exception was made for the "great numbers of people" who had settled "in the country upon the western waters." They had been prevented from obtaining patents or legal titles by the Proclamation of 1763, by the change of government, and by the Revolutionary War, although they had in many instances lived on their lands for as many as fifteen to twenty years. For those who risked losing their lands, the Virginia lawmakers made allowances. For all persons who "had bona fide settled themselves or their families" on the Western Waters prior to January 1, 1778 on lands which no other person claimed, the allowance was 400 acres (or less if they chose) which would include that part settled by them. ..." It's difficult to compress all Mary wrote on the subject to a simple explaination, but basically Commissioners Certificates were an additional form of land claim and were not warrants, but were another way of acquiring up to 400 acres of land where it could be proved that the "family" had made a "crop of corn" on the land or resided on the land at least one year. All Commissioners certificates were dated 1781 and 1782. The commissioners had designated districts, Washington and Montgomery Counties being one district. Four commissioners were appointed to each district, but they could not live in that district. The district clerk was James REID. Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

In Virginia: A Patent (after the Rev. War called a Land Grant) is needed before land can be conveyed via a deed. A Survey is needed for a Patent or Land Grant A Survey was done after a Warrant was issued. Thus one way to convey unpatented land was by "Assignment". Another way would be via a "Will" or if no "Will" (Intestate) by the VA inheritance laws. A third way would be forfeiture due to non-payment of taxes. For free viewing or downloading of copies of all VA Patents or Land Grants (including KY and West VA prior to their statehood) go to the State Library of Virginia wedsite at: http://ajax.lva.lib.va.us/F/TR7S34DS3V5IU7EA4UNV8NNEN4ENSLFQL8926T6QASHXM16XNS -01863?func=file&file_name=find-m-lva01 Click on "Images, Indexes, etc." which brings up a "Multi-Catalog Search" window. Check the "Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants/Northern Neck Grants and Surveys" box near the bottom of the window. Then type in what you want to search for in the "Type word or phrase" box -- such as John Doe. To limit your search to Washington County, type "Washington John Doe" which will limit your search to Washington County (and instances of a person named Washington, etc). If a surname has various spellings, sometimes the program will supply the variations, but not always. One way to be sure is to use an "*" for a 'wild card' such as: Type "Washington Edm*on" to get all occurances of Edmondson, Edmundson, Edmiston, Edmonson. If you don't have a name, but do have the number of acres in a tract such as 219 acres, typing Washington "219 acres" should bring up all the occurances of 219 acres in the Washington County Patents or Land Grants. If the land was on a named creek, try typing in the creek's name such as: "Washington Cedar Creek" Note: at times the same creek will have had different names such as current Hutton Creek was called Bakers Creek, Thompsons Creek & Stalnakers Creek. The 'Wild card' comes in handy where a creek may be called Baker, Bakers, Baker's Creek -- use "Washington Baker* Creek" The 'Wild card' also comes in handy for plural surnames when they are used as adjoining neighbors, etc., and would have an "s" on the end of the name such as when the entry is "Clark's adjoining 40 acres" -- then use "Washington Clark*" All Patents and Land Grants include the Survey metes and bounds (distances, directions, corners, etc.) and at times adjoining neighbors (note: as some of the Patents or Land Grants were granted long after a Survey was done, some or all of the "adjoining neighbors" may not be current neighbors of the tract of land at the time the Patent or Land Grant was granted). Once you have the Patent or Land Grant Volume and page number, go to: http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/LONN/LO.html where you can view and/or download the Patent or Land Grant. Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Is this certificate the same as a land warrant? ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <VAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: [VAWASHIN] Commissioners Certificates > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: wmwillis2 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.washington/4154/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In Virginia commissioners certificates were issued in Washington County to > claim land settled prior to 1778. Basically all that was required was > that you had to have settled the property prior to 1778. Most records for > such certificates, such as surveyors records using a commissioner's > certificate include an explicit date of settlement. However, a > certificate could be assigned to third party. > > If a commissioners certificate were assigned, is it possible that the > specific parcel referred to in a record was NOT the one the assigner > actually settled? That is, might he have settled some other property, > gained a certificate, but then instead of recording that settlement, > assigned the certificate to someone else, and that person used the > certificate as the basis for securing rights to a totally difference > parcel? > > Ultimately, the question is of interest because I'm trying to determine > who was the original settler on a number of parcels in Washington Co. I > presume its the person who earned the certificate in the first place, but > possibly not for the reasons suggested above. > > Thanks > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda Bailey wrote: > How would you know if a warrant was purchased from a land office or > given for military service? Would there be a record of both of these > situations? In theory, yes. Linda, you need to check out a couple of pages. Go to http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/Visitors/Default.asp This page will start to help you learn more about the Federal system of land sales. When you do the patent search and one is found, it will tell you what the authority was under which the claim was made (homestead act, military warrant, etc.) That in turn may help you to be able to get copies of the original claims, etc., from the National Archives. For warrants granted by the government of Virginia, check out the Library of Virginia. http://www.lva.lib.va.us/ the LVA bounty land warrant used to be searchable by warrant number but it may not be so anymore. It may just be name now. Warrant numbers can sometimes be found in the deeds themselves and in the surveyor's books. > When the survey says "John Smith assignee of John Brown assignee of John > Doe" - does this mean that John Doe held the original land warrant? Yes. > That John Doe originally had this piece of land surveyed, but did not > record a deed? He may or may not have held the warrant long enough to get the survey done. He could have sold it immediately upon receipt from the land office. John Doe may never have even gone to the area where the land was eventually claimed to see what it looked like. > Instead he 'sold' the warrant to John Brown who in turn > sold it to John Smith? John Smith is most likely going to be the fellow who checked out the land and put in a claim for a specific piece of land and requested the survey in order to turn the warrant into a deed of title. > Also, is a warrant the same as a land patent? No. A warrant is issued at the beginning of the process and the patent at the end. The warrant conveys the right to possess some land, some where. A patent grants right of ownership to a specific piece of land. But...I'm not a lawyer and this is not carved in stone but is merely my understanding of it all. Renee

Renee, Thanks for your reply. How would you know if a warrant was purchased from a land office or given for military service? Would there be a record of both of these situations? When the survey says "John Smith assignee of John Brown assignee of John Doe" - does this mean that John Doe held the original land warrant? That John Doe originally had this piece of land surveyed, but did not record a deed? Instead he 'sold' the warrant to John Brown who in turn sold it to John Smith? Also, is a warrant the same as a land patent? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee Dauven" <promine@web-ster.com> To: <VAWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [VAWASHIN] what is an assignee? > > > Linda Bailey wrote: > >> Can someone give me an explanation of what an assignee is in the >> surveyors records? Under what circumstances would this term be used? >> I seem to see it fairly often and am somewhat confused by this. Does the >> "assignee" now own the property? What about the person who names an >> "assignee?" > > Assignee is, basically, the buyer or purchaser. It means that the > original owner has sold and "signed over" his rights, etc. to the new > holder or owner. The original holder or assignor no longer has any > claims. > Land warrants either purchased from the land office or given as payment > for military service were deliberatley written vaguely. Thus a warrant > would be issued for 100 acres, for example, in a certain area but there > would be no specific piece of land connected to that warrant until the > holder applied for a survey and the survey was approved and registered. > The warrant, which was simply a piece of paper stating that the > current holder had a right to x amount of land in an area, could be > bought and sold several times over during that entire process...and > sometimes even afterwords for on occasion you will find that the last > assignee will ask to trade the surveyed land chosen by a previous holder > for another piece that the newest owner likes better. If actual title > hadn't been issued on either the survey or the new land choice, often > that swap would be made. > The original owner of the warrant may never have even visited the area > where the land is actually claimed and surveyed. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can someone give me an explanation of what an assignee is in the surveyors records? Under what circumstances would this term be used? I seem to see it fairly often and am somewhat confused by this. Does the "assignee" now own the property? What about the person who names an "assignee?" Thanks, Linda B

Linda Bailey wrote: > Can someone give me an explanation of what an assignee is in the surveyors records? Under what circumstances would this term be used? > I seem to see it fairly often and am somewhat confused by this. Does the "assignee" now own the property? What about the person who names an "assignee?" Assignee is, basically, the buyer or purchaser. It means that the original owner has sold and "signed over" his rights, etc. to the new holder or owner. The original holder or assignor no longer has any claims. Land warrants either purchased from the land office or given as payment for military service were deliberatley written vaguely. Thus a warrant would be issued for 100 acres, for example, in a certain area but there would be no specific piece of land connected to that warrant until the holder applied for a survey and the survey was approved and registered. The warrant, which was simply a piece of paper stating that the current holder had a right to x amount of land in an area, could be bought and sold several times over during that entire process...and sometimes even afterwords for on occasion you will find that the last assignee will ask to trade the surveyed land chosen by a previous holder for another piece that the newest owner likes better. If actual title hadn't been issued on either the survey or the new land choice, often that swap would be made. The original owner of the warrant may never have even visited the area where the land is actually claimed and surveyed.

History OF Southwest Virginia, 1746‑1786, Washington County, 1777‑1870. BY LEWIS PRESTON SUMMERS, Here is the information on the book. If your local library does not have it and you cannot borrow it from the loaning library, you might want to check into this website. dmkheritage.com they have it on CD. They also have other books on Virginia and neighboring states with the Table of Contents and indexes listed. This 904 page book (includes a 14 page index of surnames) includes history of the old Washington County which now includes: Lee, Washington, Russell, Tazewell, and Wythe Counties. It gives information on both the Revolution and the Civil War and who served in them. It has a few biographical sketches of the more prominent men and numerous lists of names of men who served in various county and state offices and served in the military. Index: Abel, Able, Abraham, Ackerman, Ackland, Acklin, Adair, Adam, Adams, Adkins, Akard, Aker, Akers, Albert, Albridge, Alcom, Alderson, Aldridge, Alexander, Alexanders, Alfred, Alfreds, Allen, Alley, Allison, Alvis, Ambrose, Amherst, Anderson, Andrew, Andrews, Angel, Anthony, Apling, Apperson, Appling, Arbuckle, ARCHER, Argall, Armsted, Armstrong, Arnett, Arnold, Arthur, Asberry, Asbury, Ashby, Ashley, Ashworth, Askew, Astin, Aston, Atkins, Attacallaculla, Attakullakulla, Austin, Authenreith, Auvil, Aven, Avens, Avery, Aydlott, Ayers, Aylett, Ayliott, Bachman, Bacon, Bader, Bagley, Bagnell, Bailey, Baillie, Baker, Baldwin, Balfour, Ball, Ballard, Baltzell, Banister, Banks, Barb, Barbary, Barbee, Barberry, Barbour, Bare, Barger, Barker, Barlow, Barnes, Barnet, Barnett, Barr, Barrack, Barre, Barrier, Barrow, Barrs, Bartlett, Barton, Baskerville, Bates, Batson, Batte, Batts, Baugh, Baxter, Baylor, Bean, Beane, Beard, Bearden, Beasley, Beatie, Beattie, Beaty, Beavers, Bebber, Beets, 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Thank You both, Karia and Bob for the Orr information. I am searching for Samuel C. Scott, place unknown, he was in Indiana by 1833. He married Ann R. Smith in Washington County. The marriage license has him as Samuel C. Scott, don't know if it was Samuel C. Scott or Samuel O. Scott. Your information is deeply appreciated. Judy Smith/Colorado

Hi Judy, Go to Diana Powell's Rambling Roots site at http://ramblingroots.com/RYB-p/p3003.htm where Diana has posted the Nine Generations of Orrs in America - 1700-1954 - Corrections that my wife Donna Jean wrote. Then go down to "Page 52, # 5 — text:" and read the accompanying correction that proves the three wives of James SCOTT (Elizabeth ORR, daughter of Arthur ORR, Senior being the first wife of James). Bob Ford ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Searching for the family of Elizabeth Orr, daughter of Arthur Orr, sister to William Orr. Elizabeth Orr - did she marry a Scott? Would anyone know the children of Elizabeth Orr and ? Scott? Thank You. Judy Smith/Colorado

Hello All, I've added another 20 pages to the book "Collections of the Virginia Historical Society Vol. VII: Virginia Company of London 1619-1624". It's online now at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com Alan RESEARCHING: Buckingham, Gilpin, Eastburn, Jeanes, Nowland, Wade, Creswell, Abernathy and related families No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM

Hi again, There are several paragraphs more on James, Elizabeth's widower, and his family if you are interested. He also had several children by his two other wives. Actually, now that I am looking at some other names in the index, there is an Arthur Orr Scott, son of a Samuel Scott, listed. I can transcribe all of that if you would like, if you think that this is your line. It looks like he moved to Wise Co, VA and he and his wife had ten children. They are all listed. This was not connected up with the James Scott/Elizabeth Orr entry earlier in Vol. III. Karla On Jan 11, 2008 2:14 PM, <gjsmith58@comcast.net> wrote: > Searching for the family of Elizabeth Orr, daughter of Arthur Orr, sister > to William Orr. > Elizabeth Orr - did she marry a Scott? Would anyone know the children of > Elizabeth Orr and ? Scott? > > Thank You. > Judy Smith/Colorado > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Once again, my handy dandy *The Scotts of Southwest Virginia*, Descendants of James & Rachel Scott of Wythe/Smyth County and Ten Other Early Lines, by Reverend Pike Thomas and Kay Lee Wrage Gunn, may prove to be helpful. On page 812, it states that James Scott, who is NOT a descendant of James and Rachel of the book's title and focus but rather of one of the ten other early lines referred to in the title, married Elizabeth Orr. Here is what it says: Elizabeth Orr b: October 18, 1786 in Huntington Tnshp, York Co PA src: Tombstone; not in Warren Orr's list p50ff d: September 12, 1808 in Wash Co VA (bur Old Glade Spr Cem) m: Abt. 1805 Wash Co VA Father: Arthur ORR Mother: Elizabeth Ann SCOTT [son] Samuel Orr Scott b: Bef. 1808 in Wash Co VA (spec. legacy fm g'father Arthur Orr) d: in prob. die young Widower James then remarried twice more. I am not familiar with Warren Orr or his list. Hope this helps, Karla from California On Jan 11, 2008 2:14 PM, <gjsmith58@comcast.net> wrote: > Searching for the family of Elizabeth Orr, daughter of Arthur Orr, sister > to William Orr. > Elizabeth Orr - did she marry a Scott? Would anyone know the children of > Elizabeth Orr and ? Scott? > > Thank You. > Judy Smith/Colorado > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VAWASHIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >