This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ketcham, Ketchum, Hill, McNew, Reasor, Thrift, Snook, Phillips, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACE/1447.1.1.2 Message Board Post: This is the information I have at hand for potential relationships between Catchems and others in Washington Co, VA and it is not documented. Jacob1 Ketcham (488) +Martha1 Thrift (11320), d. circa 1816 at Knox Co, TN └── Hugh2 Ketcham (11321), b. circa 1763 +Christian1 Snook (489) ├── Jesse2 Ketcham (11319) ├── Edward2 Ketcham (11317), d. circa 1830 at Blount Co, AL ├── Joseph2 Ketcham (11318) └── James2 Ketcham (244), b. circa 1770 at Orange Co, VA?, d. 23 Mar 1840 at Washington Co, VA, bur. after 23 Mar 1840 at Washington Co, VA +Martha2 Phillips (245), b. 1776 at NC?, d. Jun 1879 at Washington Co, VA ├── Martha3 Ketcham (1998) │ +Peleg3 Cole (1999), m. at Washington Co, VA ├── William3 Ketcham (1933) ├── Liddie3 Ketcham (1934) ├── Samuel3 Ketcham (1935) ├── Margaret3 Ketcham (1996) │ +William3 Edmondson (1997), m. 13 Jan 1826 at Washington Co, VA ├── Jacob3 Ketcham (4780), d. circa 1865 │ +Matilda3 Loggins (4781), m. at Washington Co, VA ├── William3 Ketcham (4763) ├── Nancy Jane3 Ketcham (4778) │ +John3 Widener (4779), m. 3 Jan 1850 at Washington Co, VA ├── Elijah3 Ketcham (4949) └── Edward McKee3 Ketcham (122), b. 17 Apr 1827, d. 18 Jan 1903 at Washington Co, VA, bur. at Davis-Jameson Cem, Washington Co, VA +Martha Jane3 Hill (123), b. 31 May 1827 at Washington Co, VA, m. 9 Mar 1852 at Washington Co, VA, d. between 1858 and 1862 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lucinda Elizabeth4 Ketchem (61), b. 17 Oct 1852 at Washington Co, VA, d. 14 Dec 1930 at Holston, Washington Co, VA, bur. at Counts Cem, Brumby Gap, Washington Co, VA ├── William Samuel4 Ketcham (88), b. 29 Jun 1854 at Washington Co, VA ├── John E4 Ketcham (176), b. 25 May 1856 at Washington Co, VA └── Martha Mary4 Ketcham (89), b. 13 Oct 1859 at Washington Co, VA, d. 24 Jun 1936 at Washington Co, VA, bur. at Sinking Spring Cem, Washington Co, VA +Martha3 Mcnew (19798), b. 10 Mar 1841 at Washington Co, VA, m. 19 Jun 1862 at Washington Co, VA ├── Analeza4 Ketcham (95), b. between 1861 and 1864 at Washington Co, VA ├── Andy Lee(?)4 Ketcham (94), b. circa 1862 ├── Milly B4 Ketcham (188), b. circa 1865 ├── Lovenia Frances4 Ketcham (354), b. 1 Mar 1866 at Washington Co, VA, d. after 1957 ├── George F M4 Ketcham (353), b. 22 Feb 1869 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lesander4 Ketcham (352), b. 1870 at Washington Co, VA ├── Amanda4 Ketcham (355), b. 1873 at Washington Co, VA ├── Susan M4 Ketcham (177), b. 1873 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lora (Laura)4 Ketcham (178), b. 1874 at Washington Co, VA ├── C-Hop4 Ketcham (356), b. 18 Dec 1875 at Washington Co, VA, d. 13 Feb 1960 at Abingdon, Washington Co, VA ├── stillborn4 Ketcham (179), b. circa 1877 at Washington Co, VA, d. circa 1877 at Washington Co, VA ├── Victoria4 Ketcham (358), b. 1879 at Washington Co, VA ├── California (Callie)4 Ketcham (357), b. 1879 at Washington Co, VA, d. 1945 at Washington Co, VA ├── Rachel4 Ketcham (19783), b. 29 Jun 1880 at Washington Co, VA └── Robert4 Ketcham (189), b. circa 1882 Printed on: 14 Nov 2005 Prepared by: Trudie Davis-Long tdavislong [at] copper.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ketcham, Ketchum, Hill, McNew, Reasor, Thrift, Snook, Phillips, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GBC.2ACE/1447.1.1.1 Message Board Post: This is the information I have at hand for potential relationships between Catchems and others in Washington Co, VA and it is not documented. Jacob1 Ketcham (488) +Martha1 Thrift (11320), d. circa 1816 at Knox Co, TN └── Hugh2 Ketcham (11321), b. circa 1763 +Christian1 Snook (489) ├── Jesse2 Ketcham (11319) ├── Edward2 Ketcham (11317), d. circa 1830 at Blount Co, AL ├── Joseph2 Ketcham (11318) └── James2 Ketcham (244), b. circa 1770 at Orange Co, VA?, d. 23 Mar 1840 at Washington Co, VA, bur. after 23 Mar 1840 at Washington Co, VA +Martha2 Phillips (245), b. 1776 at NC?, d. Jun 1879 at Washington Co, VA ├── Martha3 Ketcham (1998) │ +Peleg3 Cole (1999), m. at Washington Co, VA ├── William3 Ketcham (1933) ├── Liddie3 Ketcham (1934) ├── Samuel3 Ketcham (1935) ├── Margaret3 Ketcham (1996) │ +William3 Edmondson (1997), m. 13 Jan 1826 at Washington Co, VA ├── Jacob3 Ketcham (4780), d. circa 1865 │ +Matilda3 Loggins (4781), m. at Washington Co, VA ├── William3 Ketcham (4763) ├── Nancy Jane3 Ketcham (4778) │ +John3 Widener (4779), m. 3 Jan 1850 at Washington Co, VA ├── Elijah3 Ketcham (4949) └── Edward McKee3 Ketcham (122), b. 17 Apr 1827, d. 18 Jan 1903 at Washington Co, VA, bur. at Davis-Jameson Cem, Washington Co, VA +Martha Jane3 Hill (123), b. 31 May 1827 at Washington Co, VA, m. 9 Mar 1852 at Washington Co, VA, d. between 1858 and 1862 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lucinda Elizabeth4 Ketchem (61), b. 17 Oct 1852 at Washington Co, VA, d. 14 Dec 1930 at Holston, Washington Co, VA, bur. at Counts Cem, Brumby Gap, Washington Co, VA ├── William Samuel4 Ketcham (88), b. 29 Jun 1854 at Washington Co, VA ├── John E4 Ketcham (176), b. 25 May 1856 at Washington Co, VA └── Martha Mary4 Ketcham (89), b. 13 Oct 1859 at Washington Co, VA, d. 24 Jun 1936 at Washington Co, VA, bur. at Sinking Spring Cem, Washington Co, VA +Martha3 Mcnew (19798), b. 10 Mar 1841 at Washington Co, VA, m. 19 Jun 1862 at Washington Co, VA ├── Analeza4 Ketcham (95), b. between 1861 and 1864 at Washington Co, VA ├── Andy Lee(?)4 Ketcham (94), b. circa 1862 ├── Milly B4 Ketcham (188), b. circa 1865 ├── Lovenia Frances4 Ketcham (354), b. 1 Mar 1866 at Washington Co, VA, d. after 1957 ├── George F M4 Ketcham (353), b. 22 Feb 1869 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lesander4 Ketcham (352), b. 1870 at Washington Co, VA ├── Amanda4 Ketcham (355), b. 1873 at Washington Co, VA ├── Susan M4 Ketcham (177), b. 1873 at Washington Co, VA ├── Lora (Laura)4 Ketcham (178), b. 1874 at Washington Co, VA ├── C-Hop4 Ketcham (356), b. 18 Dec 1875 at Washington Co, VA, d. 13 Feb 1960 at Abingdon, Washington Co, VA ├── stillborn4 Ketcham (179), b. circa 1877 at Washington Co, VA, d. circa 1877 at Washington Co, VA ├── Victoria4 Ketcham (358), b. 1879 at Washington Co, VA ├── California (Callie)4 Ketcham (357), b. 1879 at Washington Co, VA, d. 1945 at Washington Co, VA ├── Rachel4 Ketcham (19783), b. 29 Jun 1880 at Washington Co, VA └── Robert4 Ketcham (189), b. circa 1882 Printed on: 14 Nov 2005 Prepared by: Trudie Davis-Long tdavislong [at] copper.net

Trying to find info on the family of Sarah Etter Nunley, 3 Dec 1883-20 Jun 1970. Her mother was Frances and was the mother of nine. Etter help raise her nephews, Dewey and Fitzhue Nunley. They weren't brothers, they were cousins. Etter married James Sanders in 1904. Her son, Jasper Sanders, was a sheriff of Washington Co. A daughter, Frances, married Morgan Oquinn of Saltville. And there was another daughter, Ethyl. ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1487 Message Board Post: I wasn't sure if they had markings or not. I was the one that gave High On A Windy Hill the information but somewhere down the line I lost it. I know my grandfather and grandmother Alphus and Jeanette Widener both have tombrocks. I thought that John A and Mary had footstones. I need to go down there one day and check. Thanks Roy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1484.1 Message Board Post: Per High on a Windy Hill... John Alexander Jones and Mary Catherine Moore Jones are buried in unmarked graves in the Jones Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ramsey, Franklin, Freeman, Bush Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1486 Message Board Post: Is there a Joel Ramsey, who married Abigail Freeman, listed in the will? thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wheeler, Hale, Dickenson, Amburgey (Amburgy) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1485 Message Board Post: I am searching for James Wheeler, b- 10 April, 1791 Washington Co. Virginia, d- 12 July 1883, Russell Co. Virginia. He married Mary Virginia Amburgey, do you know his parents, is he from this family? He had a dau. name Anna C. who married William G. Hale, any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re; Lock (e) descendents Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Donald, I was told that this was Thomas LOCKE in the 1810 Casey Co. KY census. You can see it at usgenweb for Casey Co. KY. I actually think he was a Luck. The spelling is Loocke. Have you seen the website about the Rev. Thomas Locke from VA? As far as I know, I have no Lockes in my line. This Thomas Loocke/Locke was living next door to George White in 1810. George's widow was Jane Unk when he died in 1824. I thought this Jane might be related to neighbor Loocke/Locke. Shari Horton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1484 Message Board Post: My Great Grandfather was John Alexander Jones and I'm a thinking that he lived in the Poor Valley section of Saltville. His wife's name was Mary but that's all I know. They are both buried in the Jones Chapel Cementary in Poor Valley but I don't know the dates until I go down there. If anyone has any information about them let me know. Johns name is on a lot of deeds where he had something to do with them but not sure. I saw his name on several at the court house deeds office . John A Jones is the father of Jeanett Jones Widener and Vernettie Jones Holmes and Charlie Jones and they had two twin sisters Mary and Martha Thanks Roy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I consulted my own transcribed census records and I do not show a Thomas Lock(e) in the Casey County Ky census, and I consulted my database and do not find Lock(e)'s living in Casey County for any date. I am not saying he isn't a Lock(e), I am just saying I have no record of it. Loocke is a typical spelling error in the old records, I will have to refer to this 1810 record and see what I make of it. Because of my vast interest in Virginia and Kentucky Lock(e)'s, if Thomas Lock(e) is in fact a Lock(e), I have over looked him. When I have a man who I question the spelling of his surname in one census, I try to find him in other census records to see what surname he is listed as under the other census records. So because this Thomas isn't listed on my transcribed census records, at the time I must have concluded he wasn't a Lock(e), that he was of another surname. But I will go back to the 1810 census soon and double check. Before we mention any more Lock(e)'s, lets try to determine if Thomas is one or not. Donald Locke http://home.comcast.net/~lockeroots/home.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Old Marriage Bonds Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1483 Message Board Post: Doc, Thank you for the info about the cost of retrieving a marriage bond. Shari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Re: Lock (e) Descendents Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thomas Locke shows as Thomas Loocke in 1810 Casey Co. KY census. After making several contacts about this Loocke surname, I found it to be one Thomas Locke. There was also a Rev. Thomas Locke in Lunenburg Co. VA. I think this is the Thomas Locke who went on to become quite famous. There is a Thomas Locke website about him. You might try a Google search for it. Also, several people mentioned in George White will in Casey Co. KY came out of Lunenburg Co. VA. After doing some research, I am wondering if this Thomas Loocke in Casey Co. KY was actually Thomas Luck or a variation of Lusk. Some of the things people have given me just do not add up. Shari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Shari Where was Thomas Locke living near your family, in Washington County Va or Casey County Ky? or both places? I know the Lock(e)'s were in Washington County Va , but I don't think I have seen any in Casey County Ky yet. The Jacob Lock I mentioned in the first post isn't Rev. Jacob Lock. This is a different Jacob Lock and he is much older then Rev. Jacob Lock. Don

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Old Marriage Bonds Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1482 Message Board Post: I am trying to obtain marriage bond, license, or return for George White and Eunice Dungan (s). Married on 12 FEB 1795 in Washington Co. VA. I have the page of VA Colonial Marriages that shows them m. by Charles Hardy. Is there an actual bond or license that might give me more info? Do I write to the Washington Co. Historical Society or to the Washington Co. VA Courthouse for this record---if one? And, would someone know the cost? I know it is $10.00 for research at historical society. I do not know what it is to obtain a marriage from the courthouse, if any for the 1795 date. Thank you, Shari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Richard White and Lunenburg Co. VA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1481 Message Board Post: Does anyone have the descendents of Richard White, d. 1826, and those of Wesley White. Was Wesley White (early settler) actually John Wesley White? I am researching George White, m. Eunice Dungan (s), 12 Feb 1795, Washington Co. VA. George d. Casey Co. KY on 17 Feb 1824. Many mentioned in George's will came out of Lunenburg Co. VA to Casey-Lincoln-Mercer Co. KY. Casey formed from Lincoln Co. in 1807. Aaron Lewis line from Anson Co. NC--with father Jeremiah being born in Anson Co. NC. I am certain George was s/o Joseph White Jr. and Sarah Headley/Hadley. These men appeared to have traveled to and fro. There was a Richard and Hezekiah White in Rev. War pages at Mecklenburg Co. VA USGENWEB. This site gives variation of spellings of their surname. Am wondering if Hezekiah was same Hezekiah who married Susan Jackman in Mercer Co. KY abt. 1809--and removed to Howard Co. MO. Those mentioned in will of George White were Thomas Hutchings/Hutchinson and Jacob JohnsonJohnston. The 2 spellings of surnames appeared as Hutchings and Hutchinson in the same will of George White. Jacqueline Ambler Lewis was m. to Thomas Hutchings daughter, Elizabeth. Henry Harper, Leonard Taylor, William Lobb, Thomas Shannon, William Minor. The Hutchings name goes to marriages within the Henry Blagrove and Elizabeth Stokes of Lunenburg Co. VA. Thanks for any info, Shari

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jacob Lock/Locke Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479.1 Message Board Post: Do you know if your Jacob Lock was a Baptist Minister? There was a Jacob Lock/Locke in Barren and Hart Co. KY who was a Baptist Minister. I am researching George White, m. Eunice Dungans in Washington Co. VA. George d. in Casey Co. KY in 1824. There was a Thomas Locke living near him. I can't find a thing about this Thomas Locke. Thanks, Shari

Michael CORMANY (son of John CORMANY and Elizabeth COOK) married Mary HUTTON on 23 Jan 1856. As best as I can determine the above John CORMANY was probably the son of Michael CORMANY (who was the son of Michael CORMANY and Barbary/ Barbara ROUSH/REUSCH). And the Michael CORMANY who married Barbara ROUSH/REUSCH was Michael Jr., son of Michael CORMANY Sr. and his wife, Catharine MEYER I ....... Michael CORMANY Sr. and Catharine MEYER. II ...... Michael CORMANY Jr. and Barbary/ Barbara ROUSH/REUSCH. III ..... John CORMANY and Elizabeth COOK. IV ..... Michael CORMANY and his two wives (1) Sarah HUTTON and (2) Mary HUTTON. In "Smyth County Marriages, 1832-1850" page 17, is a note for Sarah HUTTON: "(alias McCALL)" which probably means Sarah HUTTON was previously married and her maiden name was McCALL. Michael CORMANY Jr.’s oldest child seems to have been John thus John may have been born soon after Michael Jr. and Barbara were married on 24 Feb 1795 in Wythe County. John would have been old enough to have married and had a son Michael (who was born about 1820). John was named first in his father’s 1852 will (Wythe Co., VA Will Book 2:351). Also, John’s sister, Lucretia (CORMANY) CASSELL, widow of Joseph CASSELL, died without children and Lucretia’s mother and father died before her, so Lucretia’s siblings were her heirs. Mary KEGLEY ("Early Adventures on the Western Waters," Volume V, (2004), pages 230-231) wrote that a chancery lawsuit found in the basement of the Wythe County Courthouse (Wythe County Chancery, Joseph JOHNSON et als vs. Martin S. STEFFEY, administrators, 1879-35) names Lucretia’s heirs, John being first named of Lucretia’s 11 heirs. Quite a few times in wills and court cases, etc., the first named child will be the oldest child. Michael CORMANY Sr. also had a son John, but John married Caty BAUGH on 15 Mar 1804. [KEGLEY, page 231]. One thing that has not been resolved is that you noted that Mary HUTTON who married Michael CORMANY on 23 Jan 1856 was "born about 1819." The marriage record in Jack HOCKETT’s book has Mary HUTTON as age 37, thus born about 1819 too. But in the 1850 census of Smyth County, the Mary that was the daughter of the James and Elizabeth HUTTON on page 215B of the census was age 20, thus born about 1830 -- a difference of about 10 years. So, either the marriage record age was wrong or transcribed wrong or this Mary HUTTON was not the Mary that married Michael CORMANY. Michael and Mary are not in the 1860 census of Smyth County and I do not have access to the 1860 census of Lee County, thus I have not been able to resolve the age problem. I did find one other Mary HUTTON (age 23) in the 1850 Smyth County census that would have been born about 1827, but she was living with Abram HUTTON (age 26). (Abraham HUTTON and Mary SLEMP were married 15 Feb 1847 in Smyth Co., VA, [Smyth County Marriages, 1832-1850, page 27] ). Smyth Co., VA Deed Book 1:388-390 -- 13 Sep 1834 -- Elizabeth SNAVELY et al (to) Barbary WASSUM, 86 acres in Smyth County on the waters of the Middle Fork of the Holston River. Leonard HUTTON and Joseph ADKINS were adjoining neighbors on the north of the 86 acre tract and Michael CORMANY was an adjoining neighbor on the southwest part of the 86 acres. Smyth Co., VA Deed Book 1:376-378 -- 22 Jan 1835 -- Henry & Barbary WASSUM (to) Dixon & James HUTTON, 81 and a half acres [adjoining the western boundary line of the above 86 acre tract. Dixon and James were sons of Leonard HUTTON]. -------------------------------------------------- (1) Mount Airy - Michael CORMANY Sr. home When Wythe County, Virginia, was created in 1790, the present day town of Rural Retreat, Virginia, did not exist, but was the farm and orchard lands of Michael CORMANY, Sr. Long before the formation of Rural Retreat, Virginia, (some 40 years give or take) the old town of Mount Airy was formed on the old stage road a bit west of the present town of Rural Retreat. A fairly large tract of land (some 250 acres) east of present day Rural Retreat proper, remained in the ownership of Peter CORMANY, a son of Michael. These lands became the lands of Joal CORMANY, Peter's son, who married a sister of Solomon BUCK, and would remain in the CORMANY family until the early 1900's. The old CORMANY home, the front part being the original log home of Michael CORMANY, still stands today in Rural Retreat, Virginia. http://personal.cfw.com/~cameronnet/cameron/town.htm -------------------------------------------------- (2) ANCESTORS OF PAUL ROBERT TOBLER 35. Catherine Barbara? Snavely, born Abt. 1760; died Abt. 1820 in Wythe County, VA. She was the daughter of 70. John Snavely, Schnebele and 71. Christina Musser, Mercer. Children of John Reusch and Catherine Snavely are: i. Barbara REUSCH, born Abt. 1777 in PA / Rural Retreat, VA ?; died 1853 in Black Lick; Rural Retreat, VA; married Michael CORMANY, Jr. 24 February 1795 in Wythe County, VA. ii. Catherine Reusch, born Abt. 1777; died Unknown; married Henry Armbruster Abt. 1800. iii. Elizabeth Reusch, born Aft. 1779; died Unknown; married Isaac Grubb. 17 iv. Sarah Marie Magdalene Reusch, born 10 December 1779 in Mt Airy, Montgomery Co., Virginia; died 20 August 1853 in Wythe Co., VA; married (1) Jacob Tobler, Jr., Dobler Pvt. 11 December 1798 in Wythe Co., VA; married (2) Peter Snavely, Snively 15 June 1840 in Wythe County, VA. v. Mary Reusch, born Abt. 1786 in Montgomery Co., VA; died Aft. 1855 in Tennessee; married John-Jacob 'Daude' Kinder 22 December 1808 in Wythe County, VA. vi. Eve Reusch, born 1786-1792; died Unknown; married Martin 'Daude' Kinder Abt. 1809. vii. Rachel Reusch, born 19 November 1795 in Wythe County, VA; died Unknown; married William Cassell 11 August 1818 in Wythe County, VA. viii. Rosannah Reusch, born 29 May 1798; died Unknown. ix. Susannah Reusch, born 1800; died Unknown; married Daniel Musser Bef. 1828. x. Lea Reusch, born 30 November 1803; died Unknown. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/3778/ancestor.html -------------------------------------------------- (3) THE ST. PAUL CHURCH BAPTISMAL RECORDS - Wythe Co., VA http://personal.cfw.com/~cameronnet/cameron/paulbp.htm (4) THE KIMBERLING CHURCH BAPTISMAL RECORDS - Wythe Co., VA http://home.ntelos.net/~cameronnet/cameron/kimbp.htm (5) Smyth County, Virginia Marriage Licenses 1832-1850 http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/smythgro.htm -------------------------------------------------- 1820 CENSUS FOR WYTHE COUNTY, VA | FREE WHITE MALES |FREE WHITE FEMALES |SLAVES | |-----------------------|-------------------|-------|ALL | 0| 10| 16| 16| 26| 45| 0| 10| 16| 26| 45| | |FRE HEAD OF FAMILY | -9|-15|-17|-25|-44| UP| -9|-15|-25|-44| UP|MAL|FEM|COL ========================================================= CORMANY, MICHAEL JR - - 1 1 - 1 3 2 2 1 - - - - CORMANY, JOHN - - - 1 - - 1 - 1 - - - - - http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawythe/census/1820Wythep1.txt -------------------------------------------------- (6) The 1838 Smyth County, Virginia Personal Property Tax List Name Tithes Blacks Blacks Horses Tax Kormany, Michael 2 2 .16 Kormany, John 1 Hutton, Robert 1 1 .08 Hutton, William 1 1 .08 Hutton, Edward 1 3 .24 Hutton, Dickson 1 1 .08 Hutton, James 1 1 .08 Hutton, Leonard 2 5 .40 Hutton, John 1 3 .24 http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/smyt1838.htm -------------------------------------------------- (7) 1880 Census Place: Rose Hill, Lee County, Virginia Source: FHL Film 1255375 National Archives Film T9-1375 Page 282D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Eliza CORMINY Self F W W 50 VA Occ: Farming Fa: VA Mo: VA Thomas CORMINY Son M M W 19 VA Occ: Works On Farm Fa: VA Mo: VA Margaret CORMINY DauL F M W 23 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA 1880 Census Place: Rose Hill, Lee County, Virginia Source: FHL Film 1255375 National Archives Film T9-1375 Page 277A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace James BARTLEY Self M M W 74 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: TN Sarah BARTLEY Wife F M W 70 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: NC John CARMONY GSon M M W 24 VA Occ: Works On Farm Fa: VA Mo: VA Sarah CARMONY GDau F M W 24 VA Occ: At Home Fa: VA Mo: VA 1880 Census Place: Rose Hill, Lee County, Virginia Source: FHL Film 1255375 National Archives Film T9-1375 Page 284D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John CARMINY Self M M W 23 VA Occ: Dorks On Farm Fa: VA Mo: VA Ada CARMING Wife F M W 21 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: VA Dora CARMINY Dau F S W 1 VA Fa: VA Mo: VA -------------------------------------------------- (8) "Smyth County Virginia Deed Book 1, 1832 - 1836," (2004), by Thomas & Jane Ann COLLEY: DB 1:73-74 -- 22 Feb 1833 -- Michael KORMANA & Barbary his wife of Smyth County -- to -- Geogre CRESSEL of Washington Co., VA for $550.00 -- 100 acres in Smyth County on the waters of the Middle Fork of the Holston River. Recorded : 22 Feb 1833. [COLLEY, page 37]. [Michael CARMENEY [Jr.] married Barbara RUSH [ROUSH, various spellings], daughter of John ROUSH of Black Lick, on 24 Feb 1795 (Wythe Co., VA Marriage Book 1). ["Early Adventures on the Western Waters," Volume V, (2004), by Mary B. KEGLEY, page 231]]. DB 1:388-390 -- 13 Sep 1834 -- Elizabeth SNAVELY, Martin BOOHER & Alcy his wife, Mary BOOHER, George SNAVELY & Susannah his wife, John CAGELY & Polly his wife, John JOHNSON & Catharine his wife, Jacob WASSUM & Mary his wife, I. LAMPA & Pracilla his wife, Adam GOODMAN & Margaret his wife, John WASSUM & Polly his wife, Larkin R. SCOTT & Sally his wife, and Richard JOHNSON -- to -- Barbary WASSUM, all of Smyth County, for $600.00 -- 86 acres in Smyth County on the waters of the Middle Fork of the Holston River. Bounds: Leonard HUTTON, Joseph ATKINS, Michael CORMANY, and corner to land formery the property of Nicholas WASSUM (deceased). Recorded: 18 Aug 1835. [COLLEY, pages 157-158]. DB 1:391-393 -- 13 Sep 1834 -- the same Grantor’s as above sold 81.5 acres in Smyth County on the waters of the Middle Fork of the Holston River -- to -- Henry WASSUM. Bounds: Wm. GOODPASTURE. Recorded: 22 Sep 1835. [COLLEY, pages 158-159]. DB 1:501-502 -- 11 Jun 1836 -- John SNIDER Jr. & Elizabeth his wife -- to -- Peter SNIDER, all of Smyth County, for $200.00 -- 93 acres in Smyth County on the waters of the Middle Fork of the Holston River. Bounds: on a line of a grant in the name of Michael KNORMINIE. Recorded: 21 Jun 1836. [COLLEY, page]. -------------------------------------------------- Michael KORMANY -- 29 Apr 1799 -- A Land Grant for 237 acres in Wythe (now Smyth) Co., VA, on the Middle Fork of the Holston River, by virtue of a survey dated 16 Dec 1797. A 150 acre part of the 237 acres was taken by virtue of VA Land Office Treasury Warrant # 5152 and the residue was taken by virtue of a VA Land Office Treasury Warrant # 14921. Bounds: beginning at 2 chestnut trees on or near a line of the Shelton’s Bottom Survey on the north side thereof and corner to a Survey of John SNIDER’s land and with his line ... corner to McMULLIN’s land and with his lines ... corner to the land of David KIRKWOOD and with the lines thereof ... corner to PETERSON’s land and with lines thereof ... [VA Land Grant Book 42:347-348]. -------------------------------------------------- Bob Ford

Michael CORMANY, age 36, widower, b. Wythe Co., VA (son of John CORMANY & Elizabeth COOK) married Mary HUTTON, age 37, b. Wythe Co., VA (dau. of James HUTTON & Elizabeth PHILLIPS) on 23 Jan 1856. [Source: "1851-1891 Marriages & 1860 Census of Smyth County, Virginia," (1999), by Thomas Jack HOCKETT & Shelia Steele HUNT, page 40]. Michael CORMANY married 1st to Sarah HUTTON on 17 Aug 1840. [Source: "Smyth County Marriages, 1832 - 1850," (1984), by John VOGT & T. William KETHLEY, Jr. James & ELizabeth (PHILLIPS) HUTTON and 3 of their children are on page 215B and the 1st line of page 216A of the 1850 Census of Smyth Co., VA. Page 215B Line 39 - James, age 46, farmer Line 40 - Elizabeth, age 59(?) Line 41 - John, age 19, laborer Line 42 - Mary J., age 20 Line 01 - Martha E., age 17 James HUTTON's father, Leonard HUTTON, and his 2nd wife Nancy, are on page 216A: 38 - Leonard, 77, Farmer, 3,000, born in PA 39 - Nancy, 61, born in VA Michael & Sally (HUTTON) CORMANY and 4 of their children are on page 216B. 07 - Michael, 29, farmer 08 - Sally, 28 09 - Rachel J., 8 10 - Barbary(?), 5 11 - Martha M., 3 12 - Nancy E., 1 Go to: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/smyth/census/1850cens.txt for the complete online version of the 1850 census of Smyth County. James HUTTON was the son of Leonard HUTTON (son of John HUTTON & Jane DICKSON) and his 1st wife, Martha McCALL (dau. of Thomas & Agnes McCALL). Leonard & Martha were married in WC VA on 31 Oct 1793 (by Rev. Charles CUMMINGS). Leonard and his 2nd wife, Nancy BAUGH, were married in WC VA on 17 Nov 1818 (by Rev. John JONES Jr.). [Source: "The Marriages of Washington County, Virginia, 1781 - 1853," (1993), by D.E. BROWN, pages 26 & 29]. John HUTTON was the son of Edward & Eleanor HUTTON of York (now Adams) County and before that, Chester Co., PA. The HATTON's/HUTTON's were from Huntington & Tyrone Townships, York (now Adams) Co., PA. John HUTTON came to WC VA in the late 1700's and settled in the upper Baker Creek (now called Hutton Creek) area. [WC Survey Book 1:360, WC DB1:76-77, VA Land Grant Book 28:164-165 & 169-170]. Leonard HUTTON owned land north of the Middle Fork of the Holston River between Cedar Creek and Little Holston Creek (now called Hall's Creek and a short portion near the mouth that is called Byar's Creek). [WC Deed Book 2:11-12]. Also see WC DB 4:388-389 for proof of James HUTTON being the son of Leonard HUTTON. Thomas & Agnes McCALL also lived in Tyrone Township. They moved to WC VA and in 1795, bought a 215 acre tract in the Forks (between the Middle Fork and the South Fork of the Holston River). [WC Deed Book 1:405]. Leonard HUTTON moved to the area east of Marion, VA before Smyth County was formed. The HUTTON's lived on Hutton Branch just east of Marion and areas east of Hutton Branch which put Leonard in Wythe County until Smyth County was formed from WC & Wythe Counties in 1832. According to Mary KEGLEY, Michael CORMANY, Sr. "settled on the headwaters of the South Fork of Reed Creek, and entered his land on a Treasury Warrant in 1782, and had 300 acres surveyed the spring of 1783 for which he received the grant on August 2, 1796." [VA Land Grant Book 35:467-468. "Early Adventures on the Western Waters," Volume V, (2004), by Mary B. KEGLEY, pages 229-233]. The Land Grant was granted to Michael KERMANY and is filed under Montgomery Co., VA even though Wythe County was formed in 1790 and the tract was no where near Montgomery County. (This is quite a common occurance). The above Michael CORMANY Sr. is most likely the ancestor of your Michael CARMONY who was born about 1820. My research follows: (Johann) Michael KARMENIE was born 26 Jul 1745 in Edenkoben, Palatinate, Germany. He was christened in Edenkoben Catholic Church. He married Catharine MEYER on 21 Jun 1772 at Hill Lutheran/Reformed Church, near Annville, Lancaster (now Lebanon) Co., PA. One of Michael & Catharine's sons was baptized at Hill Church (John George, baptized 15 Oct 1775, sponsors were George & Elizabeth WAMPSTER). (Johann) Michael was the son of Johanes (CARMIER/KARMINE) KARMENIE who married Maria Catharina KRAUSS on 16 Aug 1729 at the Catholic Church in Edenkoben, Palatinate, Germany. Johanes died in 1778 in what is now Lebanon Co., PA. His surviving widow was named Anna Maria. Maria Catharina's father was Johann Henrich KRAUS. Her church affiliation was Reformed (Calvinist). Johanes KARMENIE's father was Johanes CARMIER. Besides Michael, Johanes & Maria Catharina had 3 other known sons: (1) Anthony (Antonius), b. 03 Mar 1730 in Edenkoben, Palatinate, Germany, christened in Edenkoben Catholic Church, d. Aug 1813. He married Anna Christina HETZLER (dau. of Joh. George HETZLER) on 27 Feb 1758 in Hill Church, near Annville (by Rev. John Casper STOEVER). She was born 20 Apr 1732 and died in March 1814. Both are buried at the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Campbellstown, Lebanon Co., PA. Four known children. (2) Joseph, b. 22 Dec 1733 in Edenkoben, christened in Edenkoben Catholic Church on 01 Dec 1734, d. 08 May 1807 in what is now Lebanon Co., PA. He married Eve "Eva" FREY (dau. of Andrew & Eve FREY) in 1758. Eve was born 16 Oct 1738 in the Kingdom of Wurtemberg, Germany and died 21 May 1805. She is buried at Bindnagle Church, Lebanon Co., PA. Joseph is probably buried there too. 10 children, 8 of whom were living when Joseph passed away. Joseph & Eve resided in Londonderry Township in what is now Lebanon Co., PA (3) John (Johannes), b. 04 Mar 1737 in Edenkoben, Palatinate, Germany, christened in Edenkoben Catholic Church, d. in 1781. He married Juliana ____ before 1762. They resided in what is now Lebanon Co., PA. Their church affiliation was Evangelical Lutheran. 10 children. (John & Juliana are my ancestors). [Sources: Egle's Notes & Queries; Records of Hill Church near Annville, Lebanon Co., PA (pages 244, 304); Evangelical Lutheran Church Congregation, Campbellstown, Lebanon Co., PA; D.A.R. Patriot index, page 377; L. Bert NYE, Jr., Wilkesboro, NC; records of Bindnagle Church near Palmyra, Lebanon Co., PA; Lloyd ZEAGER, Lancaster Co., PA; various other researchers]. Other (mis)spellings for CARMIER/KARMENIE/CORMANY are: CARMANY, CARMENE, CARMANE, CARMINI, CARMINIE, CARMENY, CARMENEY, CARMANEY, CARMINAY, CARMONE, CARMONY, CARMANA, CORMANY, CORMENY, CORMANCY, CORMANEY, CORMINAY, CORMONEY, KARMENIE, KARAMY, KARMANEY, KARMANY, KARMENI, KARMENY, KARMANIN, KARMINI, KARMONY, KARMENE, KERMANY, KERMONY, KORMANY ... The original name was CARMIER and was later changed to KARMINE. Bob Ford

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: hutton carmony Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1480 Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on Mary Hutton, born about 1819 in Wythe Co., VA, and later married Michael Carmony (born about 1820 in Washington Co., VA). They married in Smyth Co., VA on 23 Jan 1856. It's likely both were born in that area of eastern Washington Co./western Wythe Co. that later became Smyth Co. Their descendants are later found in Lee Co., VA, so it's possible that this couple later relocated there. Any additional information on these two or their ancestors would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1479 Message Board Post: I am looking for male Descendants of Jacob Lock and his son Abraham Lock and also looking for male descendants of Samuel Lock and his sons Samuel Jr Lock and Abraham Lock All of Montgomery County and Washington CountyVa. If you are one of their male descendants or know how I can contact one of them please contact me. Donald Locke [email protected] http://home.comcast.net/~lockeroots/home.html