This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Martin, Smith, Thompson, Hampton, DeBoard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1498 Message Board Post: Seeking information on a possible burial location for William D. Martin. According to the social security death index, he died 5 Oct. 1993 and his last known address was Mendota, Washington County, Virginia. His wife's name was Leota.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1497.2 Message Board Post: There is no surviving 1800 census for WC. 1810 census of WC. The last 3 lines of page 692 have the following 3 RAMSEY's: Benjamin, males: 1 (under 10), 1 (16-25). females: 1 (16-25). Joseph, - males: 1 (under 10), 1 (10-15), 1 (16-25), 1 (45 or over). - females: 1 (under 10), 1 (10-15), 2 (16-25), 1 (45 or over). Daniel, males: 2 (under 10), 1 (16-25). females: 1 (16-25). The first line of page 693 has: John RAMSEY, 1 male & 1 female (under 10), 1 male & 1 female (26-44). The 1810 census was not put in alphabetical order as was the 1820-1840 censuses. Thus the 1810 census will be more or less in order by how the census taker made his rounds, neighbor to neighbor, farm to farm, etc. As the 4 RAMSEY's above were next to each other in the census, they probably were all neighbors and most likely were related. The "neighbors" on the 3 lines just before Benjamin RAMSEY on page 692 were John LARRIMER, Mary DAVIS, and John F. WIDNER. The "neighbors" on the 4 lines just after John RAMSEY on page 693 were Charles H. SMITH, Isham PEARCEY, John KEYS, and Wm. FARRIS. Those neighbors were persons living in the Damascus / Laurel Fork [now called Laurel Creek] area of WC. A Wm. RAMSEY owned land near Damascus in 1809, but had left WC before the 1810 census. There was a deed dated 19 Sep 1809 from Wm. RAMSEY & Ann his wife of Davidson Co., TN -to- Mary DAVIS of WC VA, for 98 pounds, 150 acres in WC VA on the Laurel Fork, a branch of the South Fork of the Holston River, granted to said Wm. RAMSEY by deed from Archibald McSPADDEN agreeable to the original patent dated 20 Jul 1787. Bounds: head of a spring. Recorded 19 Sep 1809 (WC VA Deed Book 4:218-219). [Source: WC VA DB 4, 1808-1811, (2004), by Jack Hockett, page 48]. (Note that Mary DAVIS was a neighbor of the four RAMSEY’s above that were in the 1810 census of WC). Know all men by these presents that I Wm. RAMSEY of Davidson Co., TN do hereby nominate ... appoint my son Jacob W. RAMSEY of WC VA my true & lawful attorney for me ... to convey ... land, 150 acres in WC VA on both sides of Laurel Fork of Holston River immediately below the mouth of Beaver Dam Fork, adjoining a tract of land formerly belonging to John KEYS Sr. ... authority to execute ... deed ... 11 Aug 1809. Witnesses: Joseph COLEMAN & Joseph GREEN, Justices of the peace ... at Court, 19 Sep 1809, Power of Attorney Recorded ... (WC VA Deed Book 4:219-220). [Source: WC VA DB 4, 1808-1811, (2004), by Jack Hockett, pages 48-49]. WC Survey Book 1, page 40 - Archibald McSPADDIN [McSPADDEN] ... 150 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on the Laurel Fork waters ... Beginning under Tumbling bank on the Laurel Fork ... May 28, 1782 - Archibald McSPADDIN ... 150 acres ... on both sides of the Laurel Fork , a branch of the South Fork of the Holston River, includes improvements, actual settlement made in 1775 ... August 29, 1781. [Source: The Washington County Surveyors Record 1781-1797 by Rhonda Robertson, 1998, http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm ]. VA Land Grant Book 9:730-731 - Land Grant for Archibald McSPADDEN - 150 acres on the Laurel Fork waters granted 20 Jul 1787. According to Archibald McSPADDEN’s Rev. War pension records -- on 27 Nov 1833 he personally appeared in open court, gave his age as 83 and said he was a resident of Monroe Co., TN. He moved from WC VA to Jefferson Co., TN [that part of Greene Co. that later became Jefferson Co.] where he lived till about 1818 or 1819, when he moved into Claiborne and lived till about 1823 and then moved to Monroe Co. "In or about the year 1778, in the spring, while living on the head waters of the Holston, the settlers were much annoyed by the Cherokee Indians, and applicant and other new settlers forted at William EDMISTON’s. about 5 months." Greene Co., TN Book 1:206 - 100 acres to Archibald McSPADDEN ... Registered 09 Feb 1789. Archibald was in Greene Co., TN less than 2 years after he was granted a Land Grant for the 150 acres in WC VA. Thus Wm. RAMSEY may have acquired the 150 acres around 1789. I cannot find any reference to the deed from Archibald McSPADDEN to Wm. RAMSEY that was mentioned in the 1809 deed above, in either WC VA Deed Book 1 or in WC VA District Court Deed Book A that cover that time frame. Archibald McSPADDEN’s brother, Thomas McSPADDEN is said to have owned land that included part of Damascus, which was a Land Grant for 85 acres dated 01 May 1787 [VA Land Grant book 8:547; WC Survey Book 1:38]. Archibald’s 150 acre tract was west of his brother Thomas. The tracts of Archibald and Thomas were separated by about 500 to 600 feet by the lower part of a 391 acre Land Grant for Andrew RUSSELL that was dated 03 May 1800 [VA Land Grant book 44:433-434; WC Survey Book 2:61]. There was one additional RAMSEY in the 1810 census of WC on page 714: Mary RAMSEY - 3 males under 10, 1 female under 10, 2 females 16-25, 1 female 45 or over. Mary’s neighbors would indicate that she may have been living father west on the Laurel Fork or on the South Fork of the Holston River or in that general area.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1496.1 Message Board Post: There are 3 references to a Robert RAMSEY in Vol. 2 of the "Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769-1800," by Lewis Preston Summers: Page 1085 - "At a Court continued and held for Washington County, August 21st, 1781." Page 1086 - The Last Will and Testament of Wm. WHITE, Deceased ... Ordered that Wm. DAVISON, Robert RAMSEY, John BERRY and James GILLELAND being first sworn appraise the Estate of said WHITE ... Page 1148 - "At a Court continued and held for Washington County, May the 2d, 1783." Page 1150-1151 - David DRYDEN Plaintiff against Wm. & Robert RAMSEY defendants - in Case ... it is considered by the Court that the Plaintiff recover against the Defendants his damages aforesaid ... Costs 430 pounds of Neat Tobacco and 15 shillings Attornies fee. Page 1353 - (WC Will Book 1, page 223) - 02 Nov 1799. Will of John KEYS. His estate to his children, James, John, Martha, Jennett BUCHANAN. Executors: John KEYS & Samuel BUCHANAN. Witnesses: Robert RAMSEY, Wm. FERRIS Sr., Matthew BUCHANAN. Probated 17 Dec 1799. - - - - - - - - - - The 1782 Washington County, Virginia Personal Property Tax List at http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/wash1782.htm Alexander MONTGOMERY's Precinct: RAMSEY, Robert -2 Tithes, 3 Horses, 8 Cattle - - - - - - - - - - The Washington County Surveyors Record 1781-1797 by Rhonda Robertson, 1998 Jeff Weaver’s New River Valley Page http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/washsurv.htm Also WC VA Survey Book 1 by Shelby Ireson Edwards, Holston Pastfinder 69-16. Page 290 - Robert RAMSAY [also RAMSEY], assignee of William LOWRY - 100 acres - Commissioners Certificate - on both sides of the South Fork of the Holstein [Holston] River - corner to Thomas EDMONDSON - following the south fork near Samuel WIER and on both sides of said river - corner to Christopher HOUSTON - August 11, 1785 ... We the Commissioners do certify that Robert RAMSAY, assignee of William LOWRY is entitled to 300 acres - on the South Fork of the Holstein River to include his improvements ... actual settlement made in 1776 - August 31, 1781. [Robert RAMSEY did not get a Land Grant for his 100 acres. He assigned the land to Michael STARY who was granted a Land Grant on the 100 acres on 03 Dec 1791. See VA Land Grant Book 25:255-256]. Page 36 - Samuel WEIR [also WIER]... 152 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on the waters of the South Fork of the Holston River ... Beginning at a corner on David OLDKANSE’s line ... corner to Christopher HUSTON [also HOUSTON]... May 27, 1782 - Samuel WEIR, assignee of James COULTER, assignee of Robert LOWRY ... 200 acres by settlement made in 1777 ... on the south side of the south fork of Holstein to a gap in the mountain adjoining John ROBINSON’s claim, includes improvements ... August 14, 1781. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 9:165-166 for Samuel WEIR’s 01 May 1787 Land Grant for the above 152 acres. Samuel WEIR bordered 2 southeast boundary lines of Robert RAMSEY’s 100 acre tract]. Page 225 - Christopher HUSTON [also HOUSTON]... 400 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on both sides of the south fork of the Holston River ... Beginning near the head of a spring ... on Gideon FARIS’ line ... corner to James KEYS’ land ... corner to Samuel WEIR’s land ... corner to Robert RAMSEY’s land ... March 17, 1782. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 3:270-272 for Christopher HOUSTON’s 05 Jul 1786 Land Grant for the above 400 acres]. Page 291 - Thomas EDMONDSON, assignee of John BELL & c - 210 acres - Commissioners Certificate - on the South Fork of the Holston River, adjoining Samuel WIER - beginning on the south side of the river corner to Matthew BUCHANAN - corner to Robert RAMSAY - August 12, 1785 ... Thomas EDMONDSON, assignee of John BELL, assignee of David WILSON, assignee of Robert Crildwell [CALDWELL] - 250 acres - on the south fork of Holstein [Holston] adjoining Samuel WEIR - includes improvements, actual settlement made in 1770 - August 17, 1781. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 13:696-698 for Thomas EDMONDSON’s 02 Oct 1787 Land Grant for the above 210 acres]. VA Land Grants can be viewed and or downloaded on the Library of VA website at: http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/LONN/LO.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1497.1 Message Board Post: Bill, I can't directly help you with your Ramseys but in researching my wfie's family, I know that there were Ramseys living in the vicinity of what is today Demascus in Washington Co., Va. My wife and I just returned from a visit to that part of the country and I went to the Wright United Methodist Cemetery very near Damacus where I found several Ramsey graves. I have also seen deeds and land grants for Ramseys in that area. There is a Ramsey Creek on the map that flows into the Laurel branch of the south fork of the Holston River. Don't know if any of this helps but thought that I would pass it along. Bob

Please tell me who to contact to get county Land Records? Carol Elk Grove, CA

There is no surviving 1800 census for WC. 1810 census of WC. The last 3 lines of page 692 have the following 3 RAMSEY's: Benjamin, Joseph and Daniel. The first line of page 693 has: John RAMSEY, 1 male & 1 female under 10, 1 male & 1 female 26-44. The 1810 census was not put in alphabetical order as was the 1820-1840 censuses. Thus the 1810 census will be more or less in order by how the census taker made his rounds, neighbor to neighbor, farm to farm, etc. As the 4 RAMSEY's above were next to each other in the census, they probably were all neighbors and most likely were related. The "neighbors" on the 3 lines just before Benjamin RAMSEY on page 692 were John LARRIMER, Mary DAVIS, and John F. WIDNER. The "neighbors" on the 4 lines just after John RAMSEY on page 693 were Charles H. SMITH, Isham PEARCEY, John KEYS, and Wm. FARRIS. Those neighbors were persons living in the Damascus / Laurel Fork [now called Laurel Creek] area of WC. A Wm. RAMSEY owned land near Damascus in 1809, but had left WC before the 1810 census. There was a deed dated 19 Sep 1809 from Wm. RAMSEY & Ann his wife of Davidson Co., TN -to- Mary DAVIS of WC VA, for 98 pounds, 150 acres in WC VA on the Laurel Fork, a branch of the South Fork of the Holston River, granted to said Wm. RAMSEY by deed from Archibald McSPADDEN agreeable to the original patent dated 20 Jul 1787. Bounds: head of a spring. Recorded 19 Sep 1809 (WC VA Deed Book 4:218-219). [Source: WC VA DB 4, 1808-1811, (2004), by Jack Hockett, page 48]. (Note that Mary DAVIS was a neighbor of the four RAMSEY’s above that were in the 1810 census of WC). Know all men by these presents that I Wm. RAMSEY of Davidson Co., TN do hereby nominate ... appoint my son Jacob W. RAMSEY of WC VA my true & lawful attorney for me ... to convey ... land, 150 acres in WC VA on both sides of Laurel Fork of Holston River immediately below the mouth of Beaver Dam Fork, adjoining a tract of land formerly belonging to John KEYS Sr. ... authority to execute ... deed ... 11 Aug 1809. Witnesses: Joseph COLEMAN & Joseph GREEN, Justices of the peace ... at Court, 19 Sep 1809, Power of Attorney Recorded ... (WC VA Deed Book 4:219-220). [Source: WC VA DB 4, 1808-1811, (2004), by Jack Hockett, pages 48-49]. WC Survey Book 1, page 40 - Archibald McSPADDIN [McSPADDEN] ... 150 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on the Laurel Fork waters ... Beginning under Tumbling bank on the Laurel Fork ... May 28, 1782 - Archibald McSPADDIN ... 150 acres ... on both sides of the Laurel Fork , a branch of the South Fork of the Holston River, includes improvements, actual settlement made in 1775 ... August 29, 1781. [Source: The Washington County Surveyors Record 1781-1797 by Rhonda Robertson, 1998, http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm ]. VA Land Grant Book 9:730-731 - Land Grant for Archibald McSPADDEN - 150 acres on the Laurel Fork waters granted 20 Jul 1787. According to Archibald McSPADDEN’s Rev. War pension records -- on 27 Nov 1833 he personally appeared in open court, gave his age as 83 and said he was a resident of Monroe Co., TN. He moved from WC VA to Jefferson Co., TN [that part of Greene Co. that later became Jefferson Co.] where he lived till about 1818 or 1819, when he moved into Claiborne and lived till about 1823 and then moved to Monroe Co. "In or about the year 1778, in the spring, while living on the head waters of the Holston, the settlers were much annoyed by the Cherokee Indians, and applicant and other new settlers forted at William EDMISTON’s. about 5 months." Greene Co., TN Book 1:206 - 100 acres to Archibald McSPADDEN ... Registered 09 Feb 1789. Archibald was in Greene Co., TN less than 2 years after he was granted a Land Grant for the 150 acres in WC VA. Thus Wm. RAMSEY may have acquired the 150 acres around 1789. I cannot find any reference to the deed from Archibald McSPADDEN to Wm. RAMSEY that was mentioned in the 1809 deed above, in either WC VA Deed Book 1 or in WC VA District Court Deed Book A that cover that time frame. Archibald McSPADDEN’s brother, Thomas McSPADDEN is said to have owned land that included part of Damascus, which was a Land Grant for 85 acres dated 01 May 1787 [VA Land Grant book 8:547; WC Survey Book 1:38]. Archibald’s 150 acre tract was west of his brother Thomas. The tracts of Archibald and Thomas were separated by about 500 to 600 feet by the lower part of a 391 acre Land Grant for Andrew RUSSELL that was dated 03 May 1800 [VA Land Grant book 44:433-434; WC Survey Book 2:61]. There was one additional RAMSEY in the 1810 census of WC on page 714: Mary RAMSEY - 3 males under 10, 1 female under 10, 2 females 16-25, 1 female 45 or over. Mary’s neighbors would indicate that she may have been living father west on the Laurel Fork or on the South Fork of the Holston River or in that general area. Josephine R. JURNEY (now deceased) wrote an article on the Hiram RAMSEY family ["Families of Washington County and Bristol, Virginia, 1776-1996," family # 745, page 278]: "Hiram RAMSEY, ca 1795 - 1847, lived on the Laurel Fork of the South Fork of Holston River, about two miles west of Damascus, Virginia. This was the same tract of land that had been granted to and surveyed for Robert RAMSEY in 1776. I don’t have the family of Robert; Hiram may be his grandson ... I can remember at a very young age living next to my Grandparent RAMSEY’s farm ..." Bob Ford

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1486.1 Message Board Post: Ethlene, did you ever get an answer on your Joel Ramsey question ? I am interested in this Joel Ramsey family as it appears living in the neighborhood of my JOHN RAMSEY, in Russell Co., VA. Bill Ramsey [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1497 Message Board Post: I am trying to find out if a JOHN RAMSEY appears on a Washington Co. Tax List in the years 1797, 1798, and 1799. Also I am trying to find out if he appears on the Washington Co. 1800 or 1810 Census. A sincere THANKS to anyone who can help me. Bill Ramsey [email protected]

There are 3 references to a Robert RAMSEY in Vol. 2 of the "Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769-1800," by Lewis Preston Summers: Page 1085 - "At a Court continued and held for Washington County, August 21st, 1781." Page 1086 - The Last Will and Testament of Wm. WHITE, Deceased ... Ordered that Wm. DAVISON, Robert RAMSEY, John BERRY and James GILLELAND being first sworn appraise the Estate of said WHITE ... Page 1148 - "At a Court continued and held for Washington County, May the 2d, 1783." Page 1150-1151 - David DRYDEN Plaintiff against Wm. & Robert RAMSEY defendants - in Case ... it is considered by the Court that the Plaintiff recover against the Defendants his damages aforesaid ... Costs 430 pounds of Neat Tobacco and 15 shillings Attornies fee. Page 1353 - (WC Will Book 1, page 223) - 02 Nov 1799. Will of John KEYS. His estate to his children, James, John, Martha, Jennett BUCHANAN. Executors: John KEYS & Samuel BUCHANAN. Witnesses: Robert RAMSEY, Wm. FERRIS Sr., Matthew BUCHANAN. Probated 17 Dec 1799. - - - - - - - - - - The 1782 Washington County, Virginia Personal Property Tax List at http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/wash1782.htm Alexander MONTGOMERY's Precinct: RAMSEY, Robert -2 Tithes, 3 Horses, 8 Cattle - - - - - - - - - - The Washington County Surveyors Record 1781-1797 by Rhonda Robertson, 1998 Jeff Weaver’s New River Valley Page http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nrv.htm http://www.ls.net/~newriver/va/washsurv.htm Also WC VA Survey Book 1 by Shelby Ireson Edwards, Holston Pastfinder 69-16. Page 290 - Robert RAMSAY, assignee of William LOWRY - 100 acres - Commissioners Certificate - on both sides of the South Fork of the Holstein [Holston] River - corner to Thomas EDMONDSON - following the south fork near Samuel WIER and on both sides of said river - corner to Christopher HOUSTON - August 11, 1785 ... We the Commissioners do certify that Robert RAMSAY, assignee of William LOWRY is entitled to 300 acres - on the South Fork of the Holstein River to include his improvements ... actual settlement made in 1776 - August 31, 1781. [Robert RAMSEY did not get a Land Grant for his 100 acres. He assigned the land to Michael STARY who was granted a Land Grant on the 100 acres on 03 Dec 1791. See VA Land Grant Book 25:255-256]. Page 36 - Samuel WEIR [also WIER]... 152 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on the waters of the South Fork of the Holston River ... Beginning at a corner on David OLDKANSE’s line ... corner to Christopher HUSTON [also HOUSTON]... May 27, 1782 - Samuel WEIR, assignee of James COULTER, assignee of Robert LOWRY ... 200 acres by settlement made in 1777 ... on the south side of the south fork of Holstein to a gap in the mountain adjoining John ROBINSON’s claim, includes improvements ... August 14, 1781. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 9:165-166 for Samuel WEIR’s 01 May 1787 Land Grant for the above 152 acres. Samuel WEIR bordered 2 southeast boundary lines of Robert RAMSEY’s 100 acre tract]. Page 225 - Christopher HUSTON [also HOUSTON]... 400 acres ... Commissioners Certificate ... on both sides of the south fork of the Holston River ... Beginning near the head of a spring ... on Gideon FARIS’ line ... corner to James KEYS’ land ... corner to Samuel WEIR’s land ... corner to Robert RAMSEY’s land ... March 17, 1782. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 3:270-272 for Christopher HOUSTON’s 05 Jul 1786 Land Grant for the above 400 acres]. Page 291 - Thomas EDMONDSON, assignee of John BELL & c - 210 acres - Commissioners Certificate - on the South Fork of the Holston River, adjoining Samuel WIER - beginning on the south side of the river corner to Matthew BUCHANAN - corner to Robert RAMSAY - August 12, 1785 ... Thomas EDMONDSON, assignee of John BELL, assignee of David WILSON, assignee of Robert Crildwell [CALDWELL] - 250 acres - on the south fork of Holstein [Holston] adjoining Samuel WEIR - includes improvements, actual settlement made in 1770 - August 17, 1781. [Also see VA Land Grant Book 13:696-698 for Thomas EDMONDSON’s 02 Oct 1787 Land Grant for the above 210 acres]. VA Land Grants can be viewed and or downloaded on the Library of VA website at: http://lvaimage.lib.va.us/LONN/LO.html Bob Ford

History OF Southwest Virginia, 1746‑1786, Washington County, 1777‑1870. BY LEWIS PRESTON SUMMERS, Here is the information on the book. If your local library does not have it and you cannot borrow it from the loaning library, you might want to check into this website. dmkheritage.com they have it on CD. They also have other books on Virginia and neighboring states with the Table of Contents and indexes listed. You can contact us at: dmkheritage.austin.rr.com Or visit us at dmkheritage.com This 904 page book (includes a 14 page index of surnames) includes history of the old Washington County which now includes: Lee, Washington, Russell, Tazewell, and Wythe Counties. It gives information on both the Revolution and the Civil War and who served in them. It has a few biographical sketches of the more prominent men and numerous lists of names of men who served in various county and state offices and served in the military. Index: Abel, Able, Abraham, Ackerman, Ackland, Acklin, Adair, Adam, Adams, Adkins, Akard, Aker, Akers, Albert, Albridge, Alcom, Alderson, Aldridge, Alexander, Alexanders, Alfred, Alfreds, Allen, Alley, Allison, Alvis, Ambrose, Amherst, Anderson, Andrew, Andrews, Angel, Anthony, Apling, Apperson, Appling, Arbuckle, ARCHER, Argall, Armsted, Armstrong, Arnett, Arnold, Arthur, Asberry, Asbury, Ashby, Ashley, Ashworth, Askew, Astin, Aston, Atkins, Attacallaculla, Attakullakulla, Austin, Authenreith, Auvil, Aven, Avens, Avery, Aydlott, Ayers, Aylett, Ayliott, Bachman, Bacon, Bader, Bagley, Bagnell, Bailey, Baillie, Baker, Baldwin, Balfour, Ball, Ballard, Baltzell, Banister, Banks, Barb, Barbary, Barbee, Barberry, Barbour, Bare, Barger, Barker, Barlow, Barnes, Barnet, Barnett, Barr, Barrack, Barre, Barrier, Barrow, Barrs, Bartlett, Barton, Baskerville, Bates, Batson, Batte, Batts, Baugh, Baxter, Baylor, Bean, Beane, Beard, Bearden, Beasley, Beatie, Beattie, Beaty, Beavers, Bebber, Beets, Bekem, Belcher, Bell, Bellamy, Benge, Benham, Benhams, Benjamin, Bennett, Benning, Bentley, Bergess, Berkley, Bernard, Berry, Berrys, Betterton, Betts, Beverly, Bibb, Bickley, Bidwell, Billiard, Bingeman, BIRCH, Birdswell, Birney, Bishop, Bittle, Black, Blackamore, Blackburn, Blackford, Blackley, Blackly, Blackmore, Blackwell, Blagg, Blaine, Blair, Blake, Blancett, Blanchard, Bland, Blankenship, Blanton, Blatchford, Bledsoe, Blevins, Blount, Boardwine, Bocock, Bogard, Boggs, Boiling, Boler, Boles, Bolling, Bolt, Bolton, Bond, Bonham, Booher, Booker, Boone, Boquet, Boran, Borden, Bosang, Boston, Botetourt, Bott, Bovel, Bovell, Bowden, Bowen, Bower, Bowers, Bowie, Bowles, Bowlin, Bowman, Bowser, Bowyer, Boyd, Bracken, Braddock, Bradley, Bradshaw, Branch, Brandon, Brannon, Branson, Bratton, Brausteter, Braxton, Breckenridge, Breckinridge, Bredin, Breedings, Brewer, Brice, Bridgeman, Brien, Brigade, Briggs, Bright, Briscoe, Bristow, Broady, Brobston, Brockenbrough, Bronough, Brooks, Brown, Browning, Brownlow, Bruce, Brumley, Brummit, Brunet, Brush, Bryan, Bryant, Buchanan, Buchanans, Buck, Buckingham, Buckle, Buckles, Buckley, Buckner, Buford, Bullen, Bullitt, Bunch, Bunn, Bunting, Burbridge, Burch, Burgess, Burk, Burke, Burkes, Burkett, Burks, Burlingame, Burnett, Burney, Burns, Burr, Burson, Burwell, Bush, Buskell, Bussell, Butler, Butt, Byan, Byar, Byars, Byrd, Byrne, Cabot, Caddy, Cage, Cain, Calahan, Calbert, Caldwell, Calhoun, Callahan, Callis, Calloway, Calvatt, Calvert, Camden, Cameron, Camp, Campbell, Campbells, Candler, Cantiff, Carbin, Carden, Carlock, Carmack, Carnahan, Carner, Carney, Carpenter, Carr, Carrington, Carrol, Carroll, Carson, Carswell, CARTER, Carteret, Cartmill, Cary, Casey, Casper, Cass, Cassell, Casteel, Caswell, Catherine, Catlett, Cato, Catron, Cavenah, Cawood, Caywood, Cearnes, Cecil, Cecill, Chambers, Chapman, Charlton, Chase, Chastain, Chatham, Chenneworth, Chenughita, Chew, Chick,Childs, Chiles, Chinista, Chiswell, Choice, Christian, Christopher, Chronicle, Chuckamuntas, Church, Churton, Clapp, Clark, Clarke, Clarks, Clarkson, Clay, Clayborne, Clayton, Clements, Clemmons, Clendenen, Cleveland, Clifford, Clinch, Cline, Clinton, Clive, Cloud, Cloyd, Cloyds, Clyce, Coale, Coalter, Cobb, Cochran, Cock, Cocke, Cockrell, Cogor, Cohoon, Colby, Cole, Coleman, Colleton, Colley, Collings, Collins, Colly, Columbus, Colvill, Colville, Coman, Comann, Conaquieso, Conn, Connally, Connelly, Connor, Cook, Cooke, Cooley, Coon, Cooper, Cope, Corlin, Cornelius, Cornett, Cornwallis, Corry, Corse, Cosby, Coulter, Counie, Countiss, Counts, Cowan, Cowden, Cowdrey, Cox, Coxes, Crabtree, Craig, Craighead, Crane, Crank, Craven, Crawford, Crawfords, Cregor, Creigh, Cresap, Creswell, Crisman, Crismen, Crismond, Crittenden, Crock, Crockett, Crocketts, Cromwell, Cronan, Cross, Crouch, Crow, Crowell, Crumley, Crumly, Crunk, Crutchfield, Cubine, Cuddy, Culbertson, Cull, Cumbow, Cumming, Cummings, Cummins, Cunningham, Currie, Currin, Curry, Curtis, 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1496 Message Board Post: I am trying to find out information about the Robert Ramsey who lived in Washington Co. in the late 1700's. Thanks in advance. Bill Ramsey [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1495 Message Board Post: Can anyone help me identify the Daniel Randles age 40-50 found in the 1830 census of Washington Co, VA? The oldest female in the hh (assumed to be his wife) is age 26-44 (probably closer to 40 than 26). There are youngsters in this hh 1 male age 0-4 1 male age 5-9 2 females age 0-9 2 males age 10-14 1 female age 10-14 1 female age 15-19 Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Gloria Kay Vandiver Inman

Does any one on this list live near the Snodgrass Cemetery in Washington County, VA? My great grandparents, Shade and Nancy Jane Fuller DOTSON are buried there and I would like to have a picture of their tombs. I would be willing to pay to get them. Thank you Elsie Williams [email protected]

You can also get in contact with the funeral home and get all the information from them, as all the info from the funeral home is what is sent to the stste for the death certificate. Sometimes the funeral home has more info than the death certificate. Good Luck, Drucilla Lesley Johnson Hager wrote: >Shiloh, Why don't you get a copy of the obituary. That >is also an acceptable document for the DAR. Sometimes >parents & siblings obits also carry the needed info. >You local DAR secretary should be able to help you >getting some alternate documents to prove >relationship. >Lesley > > >--- Shiloh Stone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>I am just writing to share my frustrations with you >>all. I am working on >>trying to get my mom in the DAR, I am in it through >>my dad's line. Anyways, >>I sent off for my 2nd great grandmother's death >>certificate and we got a >>letter today saying that we could not get it due to >>it needing 5 more years >>for it to be public record. After 50 years death >>certificates are public >>record until then only sisters, brothers, moms, >>dads, and children can get >>them. This is in Virginia, she died in Washington >>County, does anyone have >>any experience with this. Her daughter, my great >>grandmother died in 1995, >>None of the next of kin are living. This is soooo >>frustrating!!!!!! >> >>Joy Stone >> >> >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ > > >>Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer >>virus scan from McAfee® >>Security. >> >> >> >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >>==== VAWASHIN Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Washington County Webpage! >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/ >> >> >> >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > >==== VAWASHIN Mailing List ==== >Visit the Washington County Historical Society >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/historic.htm > > > >

Shiloh, Why don't you get a copy of the obituary. That is also an acceptable document for the DAR. Sometimes parents & siblings obits also carry the needed info. You local DAR secretary should be able to help you getting some alternate documents to prove relationship. Lesley --- Shiloh Stone <[email protected]> wrote: > I am just writing to share my frustrations with you > all. I am working on > trying to get my mom in the DAR, I am in it through > my dad's line. Anyways, > I sent off for my 2nd great grandmother's death > certificate and we got a > letter today saying that we could not get it due to > it needing 5 more years > for it to be public record. After 50 years death > certificates are public > record until then only sisters, brothers, moms, > dads, and children can get > them. This is in Virginia, she died in Washington > County, does anyone have > any experience with this. Her daughter, my great > grandmother died in 1995, > None of the next of kin are living. This is soooo > frustrating!!!!!! > > Joy Stone > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer > virus scan from McAfee® > Security. > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > ==== VAWASHIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Washington County Webpage! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vawashin/ > > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

As your 2nd great g/m died about 1960, there is a good chance she may not be in the SSDI. I don't know anything about current DAR submission rules, but they might accept an obituary or funeral home document in place of a death certificate or SSDI verification in this case. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm for info on the SSDI in addition to the following which is on the website: As marvelous a finding aid as it is, the SSDI does not include the names of everyone, even if they had a Social Security number (SNN). If relatives or the funeral home did not report the death to the Social Security Administration, or if the individual died before 1962 (when the records were computerized) then they probably will not appear in this database. Social Security officially was begun in 1937, with some payments being paid as early as 1940. However, the Social Security Death Index is the computerized index to deaths reported and/or death benefits paid out starting in 1962. The SSDI includes a few pre-1962 entries, but the great majority of those included in this index are from 1962 through the present time. While the limitations of dates may exclude your family member, other reasons that your ancestor may not be included in the SSDI might have to do with his or her occupation or lack thereof. Prior to the 1960s, farmers, housewives, government employees, non-employed individuals, and those with a separate retirement plan might not have had a Social Security number. It was not until 1988 that all children had to have Social Security numbers. Bob Ford

I had the same problem. Social Security Death Index, marriage record and snapshot of grave marker was accepted.

I am just writing to share my frustrations with you all. I am working on trying to get my mom in the DAR, I am in it through my dad's line. Anyways, I sent off for my 2nd great grandmother's death certificate and we got a letter today saying that we could not get it due to it needing 5 more years for it to be public record. After 50 years death certificates are public record until then only sisters, brothers, moms, dads, and children can get them. This is in Virginia, she died in Washington County, does anyone have any experience with this. Her daughter, my great grandmother died in 1995, None of the next of kin are living. This is soooo frustrating!!!!!! Joy Stone _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Earlier I had asked the following question in regards to the location of Ebbing Spring on the topographic map: "... the little short stream (about half an inch long on the topographic map) that flows into the MFHR just right of the word "Middle" in the upper left corner. There is what looks like a spring that is the head waters of that short stream. I would sure like to find out if anyone knows if that spring might be Ebbing Spring or just a coincidence." George W. Kelley Jr. emailed me the following answer: >>>>> No, that spring is not Ebbing Spring. It is known to locals as "Crockett Spring." The bluff due south of the spring, immediately across the river, is known as "Crockett Bluff." I have no knowledge of the origin of the name Crockett assigned to these two natural features. Ebbing Spring is farther downstream and is not plotted on the map. It is located on the north side of the river on the outside of the curve where the river turns left. You will notice a fence line plotted in red coming down the side of the hill. The spring is just to the right of that fence, about 50 feet from the edge of the river. You will note there are two small open boxes plotted in the area. The first, going east from Ebbing Spring, was a two story log home built by my great-great-grandfather David Stump in the 1800s. He used the logs from the old Ebbing Spring meeting house to build the home. At the time the original U.S.C.&CG quadrangle was prepared, the house had long been vacant and was used for hay storage, thus it was plotted as a farm building. The second building plotted farther to the east was a barn. The log home is no longer there. The logs from the old Stump home were purchased by a Glade Spring merchant, John Perry. He used them in the construction of a home in Glade Spring. <<<<< Therefore the spring in the upper left corner on the topographic map at http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=36.7526&lon=-81.7283 is known to locals as Crockett Spring and the location of the spring called Ebbing Spring is in the upper right corner of the topographic map at http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=36.7526&lon=-81.7654 Another person also emailed me about the Ebbing Spring location and I thank you both. Bob Ford

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GBC.2ACE/1494 Message Board Post: Seeking information on William D. Martin who died 5 Oct. 1993. According to the Social Security Death Index, his last known address was Mendota, Washington County, Virginia. His wife's name was Leona. Looking for an obituary.... Etc. Juvanne Martin Nampa, Idaho