I found something in this book that might be of interest: page 43 and 62 Quote: "Musters of the Inhabitants in Virginia 1624/1625" (in Annie Lash Jester and Martha Woodruff Hiden's "Adventures of Purse and Person: Virginia, 1607-1625 [Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1956[, pages 5-69) [Lancour No. 210] The following list is actually taken from the second edition of 1964, copyright by the Order of the First Families of Virginia, and reference must be made to this work to ascertain what additional information is readily available therein. long list........ page 62 of this list Robart Savadge ship name: Elzabeth date 1621 (these are not typo's on my part-this is what the book has. It does not say where the ship came from or where in Virginia it landed) Could this be the same Robert Savedge/Savidge/Savage who died in Surry Co, VA in 1698 or his son? page 63 Thomas Savage ship name: John and Francis date 1607 Ann Savage ship name: Sea Flower date 1621 I do not have access to the other books mentioned --wish I did. Did find this site of interest: America's First Families http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ and http://www.firstfamilies.org/db/25.htm---scroll down to Savidge, Robert Thomas is also on the list as Savage http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/req.htm Audrey Fettehoff Orlando, FL