Wriah Mussleman s/o Sidney and Mary Mussleman age 26 single farmer POB POR: Stafford Co. Wife: Payne (?), Annie d/o George W. and Sallie Payne age 18 single POB POR: Stafford Co. POM: Falmouth 9/12/1897 Minister: Decator Edwards June

William F. Mussleman s/o Peter and Lucinda Mussleman age 24 single farmer POB POR: Stafford Married: 1/5/1860 Stafford/Methodist Wife: Margaret Ann Jones d/o Fielding and Lucy C. JOnes age: 16 single POB POR: Stafford Co June

Arthur Lee Payne son of George and Susan Payne Age 22 Single Butcher POB POR: Stafford Co Wife: Mary E. Graves d/o Robert and Elisa Graves 22 single POB POR Stafford Co Place of Marriage: Stafford Minister: Baptist Marriage Date Nov. 2, 1870 Sidney Musselman s/o Peter and Lucinda Mussleman 23 Single Laborer POB Spotsylvania POR Stafford Wife: Martha E. Jones, d/o Charles and Sophia Jones age 20 single POB POR Stafford Co Marriage 12/19/1859 Minister: Methodist Sidney Mussleman s/o Peter and Lucinda Mussleman POR Stafford Wife: Mary M. Humphreys d/o William and Elizabeth Humphreys age: 21 POB POR Stafford Co POM Stafford Co Marriage: 10/20/1869 Minister: Methodist June

Hollye, could I impose on you again PLEASE. The info you gave me opened up my brick wall and I was running well with it but the info on the internet is limited on the marriages. it gives me the two names and a date but that is it. You seem to have access to the completed record. Would you mind much looking up the two marriages I found? Arthur lee Payne married to Mary Graves in Stafford co. on 2 nov 1870. Sidney Musselman married Mary M. Humphreys on 20 oct 1869 in stafford co. thanks very much for all the help you have been giving me. lori ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hollye Hutchings" <hhutchings@erols.com> To: <VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] RE: Parents of William Burle Payne > I think this may be what you are looking for: > > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, > VA 1851-1900 (1994) > > Page 252 > > PAYNE, William B. s/o Arthur & Mary Payne age 22 S wool worker POB POR > Stafford Co & MUSSSELMAN, Maine; d/o Sidney & Mary Musselman age 18 S POB > POR Stafford Co; POM Stafford 3 Dec 1896 minister Decator Edwards STMR > > Page 249 > > PAYNE, Arthur Lee s/o George & Susan Payne age 22 S butcher POB POR Stafford > & GRAVES, Mary E.; d/o Robert & Elisa Graves age 22 S POB POR Stafford; POM > Stafford 2 Nov 1870 minister Baptist STMR > > I got this information from Virginia Marriage Records, Compiled and Edited > by Therese A. Fisher on CD. The four volumes contained on this CD are: > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg, and of Orange, Spotsylvania, > and Stafford Counties, VA 1722-1850 (1990); Marriages in the New River > Valley, VA: Montgomery, Floyd, Pulaski, and Giles Counties (1991); Marriages > in Virginia: Spotsylvania Co. 1851-1900 and Orange Co. 1851-1867 (1992); > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, > VA 1851-1900 (1994). > > Hollye > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lori greene [mailto:l.greene@prodigy.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:38 PM > To: VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] payne research > > > could someone help me find the parents of William burle Payne born abt 1875, > married 3 dec minie mussleman in statford co. they raised there kids in > falmouth. > > I am stuck on both of these people any break you can give me is very > welcomed. > > thanks Lori > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me > with questions concerning this list. > Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me > with questions concerning this list. > Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

yes you found it for me and thank you very much! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hollye Hutchings" <hhutchings@erols.com> To: <VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] RE: Parents of William Burle Payne > I think this may be what you are looking for: > > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, > VA 1851-1900 (1994) > > Page 252 > > PAYNE, William B. s/o Arthur & Mary Payne age 22 S wool worker POB POR > Stafford Co & MUSSSELMAN, Maine; d/o Sidney & Mary Musselman age 18 S POB > POR Stafford Co; POM Stafford 3 Dec 1896 minister Decator Edwards STMR > > Page 249 > > PAYNE, Arthur Lee s/o George & Susan Payne age 22 S butcher POB POR Stafford > & GRAVES, Mary E.; d/o Robert & Elisa Graves age 22 S POB POR Stafford; POM > Stafford 2 Nov 1870 minister Baptist STMR > > I got this information from Virginia Marriage Records, Compiled and Edited > by Therese A. Fisher on CD. The four volumes contained on this CD are: > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg, and of Orange, Spotsylvania, > and Stafford Counties, VA 1722-1850 (1990); Marriages in the New River > Valley, VA: Montgomery, Floyd, Pulaski, and Giles Counties (1991); Marriages > in Virginia: Spotsylvania Co. 1851-1900 and Orange Co. 1851-1867 (1992); > Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, > VA 1851-1900 (1994). > > Hollye > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lori greene [mailto:l.greene@prodigy.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:38 PM > To: VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] payne research > > > could someone help me find the parents of William burle Payne born abt 1875, > married 3 dec minie mussleman in statford co. they raised there kids in > falmouth. > > I am stuck on both of these people any break you can give me is very > welcomed. > > thanks Lori > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me > with questions concerning this list. > Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me > with questions concerning this list. > Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I think this may be what you are looking for: Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, VA 1851-1900 (1994) Page 252 PAYNE, William B. s/o Arthur & Mary Payne age 22 S wool worker POB POR Stafford Co & MUSSSELMAN, Maine; d/o Sidney & Mary Musselman age 18 S POB POR Stafford Co; POM Stafford 3 Dec 1896 minister Decator Edwards STMR Page 249 PAYNE, Arthur Lee s/o George & Susan Payne age 22 S butcher POB POR Stafford & GRAVES, Mary E.; d/o Robert & Elisa Graves age 22 S POB POR Stafford; POM Stafford 2 Nov 1870 minister Baptist STMR I got this information from Virginia Marriage Records, Compiled and Edited by Therese A. Fisher on CD. The four volumes contained on this CD are: Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg, and of Orange, Spotsylvania, and Stafford Counties, VA 1722-1850 (1990); Marriages in the New River Valley, VA: Montgomery, Floyd, Pulaski, and Giles Counties (1991); Marriages in Virginia: Spotsylvania Co. 1851-1900 and Orange Co. 1851-1867 (1992); Marriage Records of the City of Fredericksburg and the County of Stafford, VA 1851-1900 (1994). Hollye -----Original Message----- From: lori greene [mailto:l.greene@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:38 PM To: VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] payne research could someone help me find the parents of William burle Payne born abt 1875, married 3 dec minie mussleman in statford co. they raised there kids in falmouth. I am stuck on both of these people any break you can give me is very welcomed. thanks Lori ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me with questions concerning this list. Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Does anyone have proof that Peter Mauzy b. ca 1748 in VA [and wife Priscilla Waugh] was the son of Peter Mauzy b. ca 1713 and wife Elizabeth Summers? Thank you. Barbara in Humboldt Co., CA

thanks will try that ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gingelbell@aol.com> To: <VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [VASTAFFO-L] payne research > Check the Fredericksburg web page. They have quite a few newspapers on line > and I have found a lot of references to my family even though they lived in > Stafford > and Caroline County. Nancy > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact me > with questions concerning this list. > Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Check the Fredericksburg web page. They have quite a few newspapers on line and I have found a lot of references to my family even though they lived in Stafford and Caroline County. Nancy

I did this first but failed to find them. I checked all 15 pages that a Payne was on. I don't know what to do now ----- Original Message ----- From: <WOOFNJOE@aol.com> To: <VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [VASTAFFO-L] payne research > Check the Stafford County Web Page You can find it through the > Vagenweb > Go to County Links of Va. > then to Stafford > > On Stafford you can check the censuses for these people. > Cathy > > > ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Stafford County USGenWeb Home Page. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vastaffo > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Check the Stafford County Web Page You can find it through the Vagenweb Go to County Links of Va. then to Stafford On Stafford you can check the censuses for these people. Cathy

could someone help me find the parents of William burle Payne born abt 1875, married 3 dec minie mussleman in statford co. they raised there kids in falmouth. I am stuck on both of these people any break you can give me is very welcomed. thanks Lori

Thank you for the tip on the church; I'll do it.

I believe the ACquia church is in Stafford and to my way of thinking it is a must see: There are so many old relatives buried there - really old!! They have people there cleaning on wednesday am's if their sched is still the same! another plus it right off the highway which goes south from Washington DC so you hardl;y have to waste any time at all to find it! alyce

The web site for the Rappahannock Regional Library is www.librarypoint.org. They have their catalog on-line and for $15 (if you're not a Stafford County resident) you can join the library and get a card, which also gives you access to some more on-line databases. You'll need a card to access their Virginia research room (at least that's my understanding), but all of that information is on their web site. They have a large collection of books for Stafford, as well as many other Virginia counties, and indexes to vital records and local newspapers, as well as microfiche for the newspapers (I don't know if they go back as far as you need, though) and some census and vital records. The Stafford County courthouse http://www.co.stafford.va.us/ is also a good place, as well as the local Family History Center. Their info is 1710 Bragg Road Fredericksburg, Fredericksburg County, Virginia, United States Phone: (540) 786-5641 Hours: T, W, 10am-9pm; Th 10am-3pm; Sat 10am-3pm (3rd Sat only). http://www.familysearch.com/ If you would like maps or other info before your trip, just let me know and I can get them for you, as I live just north of Stafford. Also, the National Archives and the DAR library is only about an hour north of Stafford in DC and is a great place for research, if you have the time. Hope this helps, Hollye -----Original Message----- From: Rnzinn@aol.com [mailto:Rnzinn@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:05 PM To: VASTAFFO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASTAFFO-L] Summer research This summer I will be coming from CA to VA to do research in Stafford County. I'd appreciate anyone knowledgeable on the local genealogical resources to advise me on the location of surviving old records. Are they in the courthouse, the library, local genealogical/historical society or elsewhere? I'm interested in pre-1800 to about 1815. I'm interested in Bartlett Mason; Nimrod Mason and his probable father, Lewis or Louis Mason. Lewis may be the son of John who is the son of William Mason. I have about 3 days to spend on site. I thank the list. ==== VASTAFFO Mailing List ==== List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received when you subscribed to this list. Please contact Valerie Holmes Thomas, List Administrator, vthomas@otn.net with questions concerning this list! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thank you for the courtesy of a reply. I will do so.

Thank you; I appreciate your courtesy. Neil Zinn

Which Mason family; that's the 64 dollar question. The record is incomplete and some of what I am doing is conjecture, but there is some basis for it. Early records place Bartlett Mason in Stafford County at the beginning of the 19th century and we know he moves to Owen County, KY. My ggg-grandfather, Nimrod Mason is known to have married Abigail Horton in Fauquier Co. in 1794 and he seems to move down to what will become Tazewell County where he is taxed for a couple of years and sign a petition to make Tazewell a county. He reappears in Frankfort, KY and dies in 1860 where a one line entry on the death record says he came from VA and his father was Louis Mason. (It also says his mother was Abigail Mason but since I don't know who provided this information, I strongly believe that someone confused him with his first wife, Abigail Horton--but we can't be dead sure). His son, Charles Henry Mason, by his second wide who he married in Frankfort in 1812-13 lived near the Bartlett Mason family. The naming patterns of Bartlett's line also reflect the name of Charles Henry Mason as well as Nimrod Mason. So, given the liklyhood of Bartlett and Nimrod being related, I look to Stafford County, which, I note, is contiguous to Fauquier. The records show there was a Lewis Mason in Stafford County. Obviously Louis and Lewis could be interchangeable in the records. Getting down to the nub of it, there is no evidence that Lewis Mason of Stafford is the father of Nimrod but its a good possibility. I've been told but haven't personally verified that Lewis's father was a John Mason and if that is the case then the records of Overwharton Parish come into importance as they indicate therein that John Mason's father was William Mason, a man apparently unrelated to the famous George Mason line. That's about it. If, as I have seen in VASTAFFO-rootsweb communications, the Union Army burned pre 1800 marriage records of Stafford County, I am sunk. That's why I am trying to see what has survived and what might be available when I get back there this June.

yep! I hit the wrong key, fingers are faster than I wanted. Thanks for the correction. Cathy