Denise, I can help you on both of your Kiblers. You may email me at 73644.1350@compuserve.com Mary Randall Message text written by INTERNET:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >I haven't gotten far with my Kibler relations. Anyone familiar with a Noah Kilber born 1827, died 1892 and buried at Patmos Church near Woodstock, VA? This would be my gr gr gr grandfather. On another line I have a Mary Ann Kibler who married a John Lineweaver. I have no dates here, but think her parents were William and Christina or Catherine Kibler. Thanks. Denise Mabie mabied@yahoo.com <