-----Original Message----- From: Gudas [mailto:seatide@att.net] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:20 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Naked Creek Hi folks, Can anyone shed light on the location of Naked Creek? I found my Andrews ancestors there in the Page County census of 1860. Was this area ever a part of Shenandoah County? Thanks. Sally Andrews Gudas On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 08:14 PM, Tom Pierce wrote: > Bev, > I just found the name. Do a Google search on Silva map measurer. You > can find them from $6 to $21 online. I don't know any of the stores > except Amazon.com > Tom > > Ms2001@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 12/28/2003 5:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> tvpierce@infionline.net writes: >> >> >> >>> (I really need one of those little wheely things that measure >>> distances on maps). >> >> Me too - where can you get one?? >> >> Bev >> >> >> ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [VASHENAN] Lake Atlas >> question Date: 12/28/2003 5:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time From: >> tvpierce@infionline.net Reply-to: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com To: >> VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) >> >> Joe, >> I took your information and sat down a bit with the Atlas and the >> Landowners book and here is what I came up with at first blush. >> The map at the beginning of the book, which shows both counties, is >> said to be scaled at 2 miles to the inch. If it was reduced by 32%, >> then the scale now is very close to 3 miles to the inch. That seems >> to give about the right distances for things. >> >> I went back and looked at some of the descriptions of land in the >> Landowners book and I believe the distances are by shortest road. At >> least that seems to work in Page County. Here's why I think so. >> Michael Bixler is said to have land on the Shenandoah at 16 miles S >> of the courthouse. That location should be very close to where Rte >> 675 crosses the river (Bixler's Ferry). As the "crow flies", that >> would be only 12 to 13 miles. But, if you travel S on Rte 11 to >> Vehrencamp, turn out through Edinburg Gap to King's Crossing, then up >> to Camp Roosevelt, then across the mountain and down to the river, >> that is very close to 16 miles as I guestimate it (I really need one >> of those little wheely things that measure distances on maps). As a >> further check, if it was straight line, the Hawksbill Pences at 28S >> would be in Rockingham Co. and the Offenbackers at 30S would be about >> on Naked Creek. So, at first guess, it must be by road. >> >> And, it must be closest road since Martin Coffman's estate ( at the >> White House) is said to be 20S. The only way I can think of whereby >> you can get to the White House in 20 miles is the Rte 675 route >> previously described except you turn up the river to Salem, then to >> the White House. If you tried coming across the New Market Gap, that >> would be closer to 27 or 28 miles. >> >> I've spent only a short time on it, but it looks like the only two >> roads used into Page were the Rte 675 crossing (what is the name of >> that do you suppose?) and the Milford Road. >> >> I know some of the listers have commented on this in the past. Can >> anyone shed any light on my guesses? >> >> Thanks, >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> Joe Baker wrote: >> >> >>>> The Nov. 1985 reproduction of Lake's 1885 Atlas of Shenandoah and >>>> Page Counties by Samuel B. Koontz, et al., carries the following >>>> note, "This book has been reduced 32% from the original." I have >>>> no information regarding the map scale of the similar reduction of >>>> the atlas by G. P. Hammond. >>>> >>>> I do not know how the distance a piece of property from the >>>> Shenandoah County Courthouse was measured or determined. May have >>>> been an estimate as the crow flies. If anyone know, please post. >>>> >>>> Joe >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>>> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >>>> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >>> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >> Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >> >> >> >> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >> >> >> > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >

There is a Naked Creek just south of the Town of Shenandoah (Page County), Route 340 between Shenandoah and Elkton. I believe it is the border of Page and Rockingham counties. Alley wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gudas [mailto:seatide@att.net] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:20 PM > To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} Naked Creek > > Hi folks, > Can anyone shed light on the location of Naked Creek? I found my > Andrews ancestors there in the Page County census of 1860. Was this > area ever a part of Shenandoah County? Thanks. > > Sally Andrews Gudas > On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 08:14 PM, Tom Pierce wrote: > > > Bev, > > I just found the name. Do a Google search on Silva map measurer. You > > can find them from $6 to $21 online. I don't know any of the stores > > except Amazon.com > > Tom > > > > Ms2001@aol.com wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 12/28/2003 5:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >> tvpierce@infionline.net writes: > >> > >> > >> > >>> (I really need one of those little wheely things that measure > >>> distances on maps). > >> > >> Me too - where can you get one?? > >> > >> Bev > >> > >> > >> ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [VASHENAN] Lake Atlas > >> question Date: 12/28/2003 5:44:14 PM Eastern Standard Time From: > >> tvpierce@infionline.net Reply-to: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com To: > >> VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) > >> > >> Joe, > >> I took your information and sat down a bit with the Atlas and the > >> Landowners book and here is what I came up with at first blush. > >> The map at the beginning of the book, which shows both counties, is > >> said to be scaled at 2 miles to the inch. If it was reduced by 32%, > >> then the scale now is very close to 3 miles to the inch. That seems > >> to give about the right distances for things. > >> > >> I went back and looked at some of the descriptions of land in the > >> Landowners book and I believe the distances are by shortest road. At > >> least that seems to work in Page County. Here's why I think so. > >> Michael Bixler is said to have land on the Shenandoah at 16 miles S > >> of the courthouse. That location should be very close to where Rte > >> 675 crosses the river (Bixler's Ferry). As the "crow flies", that > >> would be only 12 to 13 miles. But, if you travel S on Rte 11 to > >> Vehrencamp, turn out through Edinburg Gap to King's Crossing, then up > >> to Camp Roosevelt, then across the mountain and down to the river, > >> that is very close to 16 miles as I guestimate it (I really need one > >> of those little wheely things that measure distances on maps). As a > >> further check, if it was straight line, the Hawksbill Pences at 28S > >> would be in Rockingham Co. and the Offenbackers at 30S would be about > >> on Naked Creek. So, at first guess, it must be by road. > >> > >> And, it must be closest road since Martin Coffman's estate ( at the > >> White House) is said to be 20S. The only way I can think of whereby > >> you can get to the White House in 20 miles is the Rte 675 route > >> previously described except you turn up the river to Salem, then to > >> the White House. If you tried coming across the New Market Gap, that > >> would be closer to 27 or 28 miles. > >> > >> I've spent only a short time on it, but it looks like the only two > >> roads used into Page were the Rte 675 crossing (what is the name of > >> that do you suppose?) and the Milford Road. > >> > >> I know some of the listers have commented on this in the past. Can > >> anyone shed any light on my guesses? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Joe Baker wrote: > >> > >> > >>>> The Nov. 1985 reproduction of Lake's 1885 Atlas of Shenandoah and > >>>> Page Counties by Samuel B. Koontz, et al., carries the following > >>>> note, "This book has been reduced 32% from the original." I have > >>>> no information regarding the map scale of the similar reduction of > >>>> the atlas by G. P. Hammond. > >>>> > >>>> I do not know how the distance a piece of property from the > >>>> Shenandoah County Courthouse was measured or determined. May have > >>>> been an estimate as the crow flies. If anyone know, please post. > >>>> > >>>> Joe > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > >>>> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > >>>> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > >>> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > >>> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > >> Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > >> To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > >> VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > > VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.