Norman, Usually, when you see the tax actually computed as part of the list, the poll tax will not be part of that. I don't fully understand the use of, or the making of, these lists. I will try to find some examples and see if I am sure I understand this. Do you have any names around 1800 that I could look at? If not, I'll just pick some people I might recognize. Tom Norman Runyon wrote: >Tom, > Thank you for your reply. That clears up part of my wondering. > The reason I posted the query is 3-fold: >1: I have found elderly men where the record said 0 tithables but they >did have horses and they did pay tax on the horses. I do not know the >phsical condition of the men. >2: I have found young men where they were listed as 1 tithable but 0 >horses and paid no tax. >3: I have found women heads of households listed with 0 tithables but >with horses and they paid tax on the horses. > In most (not all) of the VA Personal Property Tax Records, that I have >read, the tax seemed only to be on the livestock and not the on "tithable" >individuals. Sometimes cattle, and/or other goods, were included in the tax. >These were all VA Personal Property Tax records between 1782 and 1830. > Norman > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Pierce" <tvpierce@infionline.net> >To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:05 PM >Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Re: PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST-SHENANDOAH CO., VA > > > > >>Norman, >>Most people who were subject to militia service were also tithables, but >>not vice-versa. A tithable was a person, sometimes 21 but usually 16, >>who was subject to the poll tax to support the parish prior to the >>Revolution and the County thereafter (I'm not certain of the exact date >>of transition, but 1782 would be a fair guess). >>In the time period 1782-1786 (please don't take this to mean it was done >>differently before 1782 - it's just that evidence is scant), it appears >>the local magistrate, or someone in a similar capacity, gathered the tax >>lists. Those lists were taken by districts which were probably >>magisterial districts. Beginning in 1787, the tax collection was >>handled by area corresponding to the militia regimental area. It is >>quite possible that, in many instances, the magisterial districts >>coincided at least roughly with militia company areas. >>It was up to the County Court to excuse folks from the levy, except for >>constables, Peter Muhlenberg, and (I'm told) state officials, who were >>at times exempted by law. Obviously, if one were old and infirm, or >>perhaps one-legged from Revolutionary service, then the County Court >>would be likely to give an exemption since that person would be unable >>to easily make payment. >> >>Tom >> >>Norman Runyon wrote: >> >> >> >>>Tithable Questions: >>> I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal >>>property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult >>>male age 21 or older? >>> Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I >>>assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to >>>callup for militia duty? >>> I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some >>> >>> >of > > >>>the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are >>> >>> >still > > >>>taxed for their horses. >>> In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too >>> >>> >old > > >>>for militia service? >>> Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? >>> Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer >>> >>> >be > > >>>considered a "Tithable"? >>>Norman >>> >>> >>>==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>>To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >>> >>> >VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >> >> >> >> > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > >