In a message dated 1/16/2008 4:25:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My Fredericks arrived in Philadelphia in 1717 as Mennonites and by 1729 some were members of the Ephrata Cloiste while others were of the Moravian persuasion.Then they migrated to the Shenandoah Valley about 1802 and Johann Friedrich was a member of the Lutheran Church in Woodstock... It is described in a quote with no source provided as, ... " a large and pretty church erected during the time of office of Rev. Muehlenberg". I sometimes wonder if they may have just joined with any available christian group Bert, Is it possible that they as a group of Mennonites just used the facilities of the Lutheran church instead of joining that congregation? Many different groups shared a building early in the establishment of communities. If you cannot find baptismal records for your Fredericks, then this might be the case. Gloria **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489