I would love to see that if someone has it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Pierce" <tvpierce@windstream.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] First census of the U.S. Shenandoah County > You likely have the 1783 census. Can you give me the first three or four > names on the list? > > Tom Pierce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mariam Cheshire" <mhc217@cox.net> > To: <VASHENAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 PM > Subject: [VASHENAN] First census of the U.S. Shenandoah County > > >>I have a sheet in my file "First Census of the United States." This was >>copied at the library or LDS. And I can't figure out >> if is1700. When I go online for the 1700 Virginia census I can not find >> Shenandoah County. I do have the 1785 and this is not it. >> >> Across the top if Name of Head of Family White Black >> >> I am looking at page 66, List of Alex's Hite >> >> My families are: Kiblinger and Prince. >> >> I want to be certain this is 1700 before I put that information in my >> genealogy records. >> >> thank you, Mariam >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.445 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3128 - Release Date: 09/11/10 06:34:00

In fact, as soon as I hit "send", I knew you had the 1783 Heads of families list. You're looking at Richard Branham's List which is gonna probably be Luray and Marksville Districts of present day Page County. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Pierce" <tvpierce@windstream.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] First census of the U.S. Shenandoah County > You likely have the 1783 census. Can you give me the first three or four > names on the list? > > Tom Pierce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mariam Cheshire" <mhc217@cox.net> > To: <VASHENAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 PM > Subject: [VASHENAN] First census of the U.S. Shenandoah County > > >>I have a sheet in my file "First Census of the United States." This was >>copied at the library or LDS. And I can't figure out >> if is1700. When I go online for the 1700 Virginia census I can not find >> Shenandoah County. I do have the 1785 and this is not it. >> >> Across the top if Name of Head of Family White Black >> >> I am looking at page 66, List of Alex's Hite >> >> My families are: Kiblinger and Prince. >> >> I want to be certain this is 1700 before I put that information in my >> genealogy records. >> >> thank you, Mariam >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You likely have the 1783 census. Can you give me the first three or four names on the list? Tom Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mariam Cheshire" <mhc217@cox.net> To: <VASHENAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] First census of the U.S. Shenandoah County >I have a sheet in my file "First Census of the United States." This was >copied at the library or LDS. And I can't figure out > if is1700. When I go online for the 1700 Virginia census I can not find > Shenandoah County. I do have the 1785 and this is not it. > > Across the top if Name of Head of Family White Black > > I am looking at page 66, List of Alex's Hite > > My families are: Kiblinger and Prince. > > I want to be certain this is 1700 before I put that information in my > genealogy records. > > thank you, Mariam > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, Browntown VA Boyd family. Can anyone connect with my family of Boyds?  I don't have very much on the Boyds who left the Warren Co., VA area. Obiturary-In 1891-Warren Co.,VA, Mr. William  Boyd, brother of Henry P. and Stephen D. Boyd, and father of Henry P. Jr., and A.O.Boyd, of Kansas City, MO, and the late William Boyd, banker of Decatur, Illinois.  Of the two surviving sons, only Henry Prather .Jr., was with his father in his last hours.  William was born October 20, 1805, and interred in the Boyd family graveyard near Browntown.             Obituary-Henry Prather Boyd died at the residence of Col. Lloyd T. Jennings, about one mile from his own home, in Warren Co.,VA  on Wednesday,  February 28, 1894, aged 65y, and 17days.  Son of Col. John and Frances Boyd, born at the old Boyd homestead about 6 miles S of Front Royal, was the youngest of 13 children, and a brother of our townsman, Steven Decatur Boyd.  In youth he joined Methodist Episcopal Church.  He lost his father when he was 5 years old.  His mother Frances died in 1871, aged 86 years.  He was married twice, his first wife, Miss Carrie Woodward (daughter of Maj William Woodward) only survived her marriage about 4 ½ months; his second marriage was (since the war) to Miss Laura O. King, daughter of Col..Issac Newton King, of Front Royal, he was again bereaved of his wife.  He was at the battle of Bull Run and Manassas.  Was carried to the hospital at Vienna, VA from the battlefield, where he was found by his brother James almost in a dying condition, who removed him to a private house nearby and afterwards to Front Royal.  He rejoined the army and joined Mosby’s command. Appreciate any information. Browntown VA Boyd family. Louise Henry :

First of all, Miriam, there was no Shenandoah Co. in 1700. The area that is now Shenandoah was part of Spotsylvania from 1720 to 1734. AFter that it was a part of Orange Co. The part of Orange west of the Blue Ridge later was cut off and became Augusta and Frederick counties in the 1740s and in 1753 the area that became Shenandoah was wholly in old Frederick county. Shenandoah Co. itself was established in 1772. There was no federal census before 1790. What you are thinking of are tax records. A list of tax payers is available for 1783 and another for 1785. Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

I have a sheet in my file "First Census of the United States." This was copied at the library or LDS. And I can't figure out if is1700. When I go online for the 1700 Virginia census I can not find Shenandoah County. I do have the 1785 and this is not it. Across the top if Name of Head of Family White Black I am looking at page 66, List of Alex's Hite My families are: Kiblinger and Prince. I want to be certain this is 1700 before I put that information in my genealogy records. thank you, Mariam

Part 2 of 2 of 6 OCTAVIA LYNN FRAVEL Born: 31 January 1853, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, d/o James Fravel & Mary Ann Hendrix Died: February 1910, Los Angeles County, California Married: 6 April 1881 in Louisiana to William Ramp WILLIAM RAMP Born: 1841, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, son of Benjamin Ramp Died: 1941, Fresno County, California Married three times ------ 1900 Federal Census: Illinois Elba Township, ED 34, Knox County Enumerated 28 June 1900 Page 178A, Sheet 7 Lines 41-47, HH 129/130 William Ramp Head/W/M/Oct1841/58/Md19yrs/Farmer/OwnsMtgFarm/PA/PA/PA Octavia Ramp Wife/W/F/Jan1853/47/4children4living/Louisiana/IN/Louisiana Lynn Ramp Son/W/M/April1882/18/Single/AttendedSchool/IL/PA/Louisiana {Herbert Lynn Ramp} Mary Ramp Dau/W/F/Nov1883/16/AttendedSchool/IL/PA/Louisiana {Mary Agnes Ramp} Dean Ramp Son/W/M/July1886/13/AttendedSchool/Il/PA/Louisiana {William Dean Ramp} Clara M. Ramp Dau/W/F/April1889/11/AttendedSchool/IL/PA/Louisiana {Clara Maud Ramp} Charles Lair ServantFarmLaborer/W/M/Sept1888/22/Single/PA/PA/PA -------------------------------------- Daughter of B. F. Morris & wife S. W. {Note: I think the initials stand for Benjamin Franklin but don't quote me as I have found nothing to substantiate it yet. 1900 Federal Census: Louisiana Slaughter, 1st Ward, ED 45, East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 2 June 1900 Page 129B, Sheet 1 Lines 54-60, HH 9/9 Levi L. Upton Head/W/M/Nov1853/46/Md2yrs/CollegeTeacher/RentsHm/GA/GA/GA Carrie B. Upton Wife/W/F/april1863/37/NoChildren/Teacher/LA/England/KY Will L. Upton Son/W/M/Nov1883/16/AtSchool/LA/GA/LA Lizzie Upton Dau/W/F/Sept1888/11/AtSchool/LA/GA/LA Thomas J. Upton Son/W/M/July1890/9/AtSchool/LA/GA/LA Mary C. Upton Dau/W/F/Oct1892/7/AtSchool/LA/GA/LA Della Upton Dau/W/F/Oct1892/7/AtSchool/LA/GA/LA ------------------------------------ Then the Ramp family moves to California where Octavia L. Ramp died in February 1910. TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION Little Lake Cemetery Santa Fe Springs Los Angeles County, California OCTAVIA L. RAMP January 1853 - February 1910 Wife of William Ramp --------------------------------- 1910 Federal Census: California Downey Township, ED 25, Los Angeles County Enumerated 3 May 1910 Page 105A, Sheet 7 Lines 4-10, HH 139/139 William Ramp Head/M/W/64/Widowed/Md28yrs/FarmerRents/PA/PA/PA Lynn Ramp Son/M/W/27/Single/Farmer/IL/PA/Louisiana Dean Ramp Son/M/W/22/Single/Farmer/IL/PA/Louisiana Maud Kinney Dau/F/W/21/Md3yrs/2children2living/IL/PA/Louisiana Roy Kinney SonInLaw/M/W/25/Farmer/IN/IN/IN Ralph Kinney Grandson/M/W/2/Calif/IN/IL Robert Kinney Grandson/M/W/1mos/Calif/IN/IL ----------------------------------- 1916 California Voters Registration Address: 178 Third Street Herbert L. Ramp - Receiving Clerk - Republican William Dean Ramp - Engineer - Democrat Note: Their political differences must have made for interesting conversations. ----------------------------------- 1920 Federal Census: California Los Angeles City, ED 448, Los Angeles County Enumerated 12 January 1920 Page 80A, Sheet 15 Lines 21-26, HH 2022/261/389 Oak Street Roy S. Kinney Head/RentsHm/M/W/34/Md/ShippingClerk/IN/IN/IN Maude Kinney Wife/Female/White/30/IL/PA/Louisiana Ralph Kinney Son/Male/White/11/AttendedSchool/Calif/PA/IL Robert Kinney Son/Male/White/9/AttendedSchool/Calif/PA/IL Thelma Kinney Dau/Female/White/8/AttendedSchool/Calif/PA/IL Madoline Kinney Dau/Female/White/6/AttendedSchool/Calif/PA/IL ------------------------------------ 1930 Federal Census: California Pasadena Township, ED 19/1276, Los Angeles County Enumerated 9 April 1930 Page 38A, Sheet 11 Lines 15-20, HH 262/300/303 Roy S. Kinney Head/RentsHm/M/W/43/MdAge22/ClerkBakingCo/IN/IN/IN Maude Kinney Wife/Female/White/40/MdAge18/IL/PA/Louisiana Ralph Kinney Son/Male/White/22/Single/MachinistPumpCo/Calif/IN/IL Robert Kinney Son/Male/White/19/Single/MachinistPumpCo/Calif/IN/IL Thelma Kinney Dau/Female/White/18/Single/AttendedSchool/Calif/IN/IL Madeline Kinney Dau/Female/White/17/AttendedSchool/Calif/IN/IL ------------------------------------- 1930 Federal Census: California Fresno City, ED 10-32, Fresno County Enumerated 8 April 1930 Page 217B, Sheet 6 Lines 64-65, HH 419/16/17 Herbert L. Ramp Head/OwnsHm$5000/HasRadio/M/W/48/Single/CountyTaxAssessor/IL/PA/LA Wilde Graff Servant/F/W/29/Single/HouseKeeper/NY/OH/PA ----------------------------------------- California Death Index Fresno County Herbert Lynn Ramp Born: 3 April 1880 {Knox County, Illinois} Died: 3 July 1947 ------------------------------------- SSDI Maud Kinney Born: 13 December 1888 {Knox County, Illinois} Died: September 1983, Stockton, San Joaquin County, California ------------------------------------- TO BE CONTINUED: Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

ISAAC FRAVEL, SON OF GEORGE FRAVEL SR. & ELIZABETH BUSHONG CHILDREN OF ISAAC FRAVEL AND CATHERINE REESE Part 1 of 2 of 6 NOTE: Researching James Fravel and his wife Mary Ann Hendrix was a real challenge. We could find not cemeteries on-line with burials so we do not know where any of them are buried. James obviously died between 1850 and 1860 in Louisiana. ----------------------------------- 1. James Fravel Born: 9 June 1817, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: Between December 1850 and 1860, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana Married: 10 December 1846, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, to MARY ANN HENDRIX MARY ANN HENDRIX Born: About 1821, Louisiana Died: After 1870 Married three times in East Feliciana Parish: M/1: 3 September 1840 to John E. Paschal M/2: 10 December 1846 to James Fravel M/3: 14 January 1868 to B. F. Morris ----- FIRST MARRIAGE: East Feliciana Parish Louisiana Marriages Mary Ann Hendrix to John E. Pascal 3 September 1840 ------ SECOND MARRIAGE: East Feliciana Parish Louisiana Marriages James Fravel to Mary Ann Paschal 10 December 1846 ----- THIRD MARRIAGE: East Feliciana Parish Louisiana Marriages Mary Ann Fravel to B. F. Morris 14 January 1868 ----- One known child from first marriage to John E. Paschal Mary C. Paschal born 1841 in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana ----------------------------------------------- 1850 Federal Census: Louisiana East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 23 November 1850 Page 251B Lines 14-19, HH 660/660 James Fravel 33/Male/Teacher/$1500/VA Mary Fravel 29/Female/Louisiana Isaac Fravel 3/Male/Louisiana Sylviah Fravel 9mos/Female/Louisiana Mary C. Paschal 9/Female/Louisiana {Daughter from first marriage to John E. Paschal} James W. Hendrix 61/Male/Farmer/SC {Mary Ann's father} ----- James Fravel died between 1850 and 1860 in Louisiana and widow Mary Ann Fravel and the children are found living with a Knighton family in the 1860 census. ----- 1860 Federal Census: Louisiana PO Clinton, East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 20 June 1860 Page 20 Lines 27-39, HH 135/135 J. Knighton 65/Male/Planter/$4000-$15000/SC S. T. Knighton 48/Female/Louisiana J. H. Knighton 20/Male/Louisiana M. E. Knighton 14/Female/Louisiana M. T. Knighton 12/Female/Louisiana E. C. Knighton 9/Female/Louisiana R. P. Brown 28/Male/KY M. A. Brown 23/Female/Louisiana J. Heath 59/Male/SC M. A. FRAVEL 48/Female/Louisiana {Wife or Widow of James Fravel} I. Fravel 13/Male/Louisiana {Isaac, Son of James Fravel} S. A. Fravel 10/Female/Louisiana {Sylviah Alvira Fravel, Daughter of James Fravel} O. Fravel 7/Female/Louisiana {Octavia Fravel, Daughter of James Fravel} ------ HER FUTURE HUSBAND WITH HIS FIRST WIFE AND CHILDREN: 1860 Federal Census: Louisiana PO Clinton, East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 21 July 1860 Page 67/64 Lines 27-31, HH 416/416 B. F. Morris 30/Male/White/CarriageMaker/$600-$800/NY S. W. Morris 28/Female/KY E. C. Morris 7/Female/IN C. L. Morris 5/Male/KY George Morris 2/Male/LA Children of B. F. Morris and S. W. Morris: 1. Eva Morris 2. Charles L. Morris 3. George Morris 4. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Morris 5. Caroline Belle "Carrie" Morris ------ East Feliciana Parish Louisiana Marriages Mary Ann Fravel to B. F. Morris 14 January 1868 ----- 1870 Federal Census: Louisiana Clinton, East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 2 June 1870 Page 347A Lines 23-32, HH 37/37 B. F. Morris 45/Male/White/Painter/$10000-$1000/ParentsOfForeignBirth/NY Mary A. Morris 41/Female/White/KeepingHouse/Louisiana {Mary Ann Hendrix Paschal Fravel} Eva Morris 17/Female/White/AtHome/AttendedSchool/Louisiana Charles Morris 14/Male/White/AtHome/AttendedSchool/KY George Morris 11/Male/White/AttendedSchool/Louisiana Lizzie Morris 9/Female/White/Louisiana Belle Morris 7/Female/White/Louisiana Isaac Fravil 22/Male/White/Laborer/Louisiana Elivira Fravil 20/Female/White/AtHome/Louisiana Octavia Fravil 16/Female/White/AttendedSchool/Louisiana ----- 1880 Federal Census: Louisiana Clinton, ED 114, East Feliciana Parish Enumerated 3 July 1880 Page 112B & C Lines 49-50 & 1-6, HH 415/502 B. F. Morris White/Male/50/Married/MayorOfClinton/England/England/England Mary Morris White/Female/51/Wife/KeepingHouse/Louisiana/SC/SC George Morris White/Male/22/Son/Single/Laborer/LA/England/KY Carrie Morris White/Female/17/Dau/AtSchool/LA/England/KY Octavia Fravel White/Female/26/StepDau/Single/SchoolTeacher/LA/VA/LA Kizzie Reily Black/Female/40/ServantCook/Single/LA/LA/LA Christy Reily Black/Female/10/LA/LA/LA Augusta Reily Black/Male/6/LA/LA/LA ------------------------- Then sometime after 1880 B. F.Morris & wife Mary Morris disappear and her daughter Octavia Fravel marries 1881 to William Ramp. We don't know whether the the Morris's stayed in Louisiana and died there but their daughter Octavia and husband and their children are found living in Knox County, Illinois in the 1900 census. ----------------------------- TO BE CONTINUED: Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

This series of posts will finish up the children of George Fravel Sr. & Elizabeth Bushong and I thank you for your indulgence. Any additions or corrections are always appreciated. Part 1 of 6 --------------------------------------- NUMBER EIGHT SON OF GEORGE FRAVEL SR & ELIZABETH BUSHONG ISAAC FRAVEL Born: 11 January 1794, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: 26 September 1873, Harrison County, Indiana Buried: Eckart Cemetery, On old Rhoads/Rhodes Homestead, near Central, Harrison County, Indiana Married Twice M/1: 29 August 1816, Shenandoah County, Virginia to CATHERINE REESE CATHERINE REESE Born: 18 February 1795, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: 25 January 1849, Harrison County, Indiana Buried: Eckart Cemetery, On old Rhodes/Rhodes Homestead, near Central, Harrison County, Indiana 9 children born to this marriage M/2: 18 October 1850, Harrison County, Indiana to LYDIA CONRAD LYDIA CONRAD Born: 13 September 1816, Indiana, d/o John Adam Conrad Jr. & Catharine Frances Frank Died: 14 October 1858, Harrison County, Indiana Buried: Eckart Cemetery, On old Rhoads/Rhodes Homestead, near Central, Harrison County, Indiana 2 children born to this marriage ----- 1830 Federal Census: Indiana Boon Township, Harrison County Page 108, Line 2 ISAAC FRAVEL 2 males 5 and under 10 years of age 1 male 10 and under 15 years of age 1 male 30 and under 40 years of age 2 females under 5 years of age 1 female 5 and under 10 years of age 1 female 30 and under 40 years of age ----- Land Patent 1 August 1838 Harrison County Indiana 80 Acres ISAAC FRAVEL ----- 1840 Federal Census: Indiana Boon Township, Harrison County Page 278, Line 5 ISAAC FRAVELL 1 male under 5 years of age 1 male 5 and under 10 years of age 1 male 10 and under 15 years of age 1 male 15 and under 20 years of age 1 male 20 and under 30 years of age 1 male 40 and under 50 years of age 1 female 5 and under 10 years of age 2 females 10 and under 15 years of age 1 female 40 and under 50 years of age ----- Harrison County Indiana Marriages Isaac Fravel to Lydia Conrad 18 October 1850 ----- 1850 Federal Census: Indiana District 45, Harrison County Enumerated 18 November 1850 Page 379A Lines 18-21, HH 1382/1382 Isaac Fravel 56/Male/White/Farmer/$700/MdWithinYear/VA Lydia Fravel 32/Female/White/IN Francis Fravel 18/Male/White/Farmer/IN John Fravel 15/Male/White/AttendedSchool/IN ----- 1860 Federal Census: Illinois Xenia, Clay County Enumerated 12 June 1860 Page 413/23 Lines 29-34, HH 161/161 Allen C. Gonterman 41/Male/White/Dentist/$1000-$200/KY Rebecca Gonterman 32/Female/White/IN ISAAC FRAVEL 67/Male/White/Blacksmith/$1000/VA Marand Fravel 8/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN {Miranda} Lucinda J. Fravel 6/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN Adda Bisby 20/Female/White/SchoolMiss/IN ----- 1870 Federal Census: Indiana Boon Township, Harrison County Enumerated 22 July 1870 Page 29A Lines 13-17, HH 179/174 John Fravel 34/Male/White/Farmer/$800-$350/IN Mary A. Fravel Female/White/White/KeepingHouse/IN Harvey Fravel 4/Male/White/AtHome/IN Francis R. Fravel 2/Male/White/AtHome/IN ISAAC FRAVEL 77/Male/White/AtHome/VA ----- TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTIONS Eckart Cemetery, On old Rhodes Homestead, near Central, Harrison County, Indiana ISAAC FRAVEL Died 26 September 1873 Aged 79 years 8 months 15 days CATHERINE FRAVEL Died 25 January 1849 Aged 53 years 11 months 7 days LYDIA FRAVEL Died 14 October 1858 Aged 42 years 1 month 1 day ------------------------ TO BE CONTINUED: Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

Dear List: Could anyone do a look-up for me if they have Amelia Gilreath's deed books? I am searching for information on John Boyd and found that reference is made  to in Shenandoah Deed Bk I-61-1792 that mentions Benjamin Boyd, Elenor, w= ife, John, son and Israel Prather. John Boyd,Shenandoah Deed Bk., X 188-1813. I don't know if Deed would give more information or not. Appreciate any help. Louise Henry

Hi I need to get a copy of the original of this church's record. Surely it is on microfilm somewhere or on paper Barbara Southern California

Larry and Listmates, Here is something to consider.......... I'm am not willing yet to concede that Henry or John M. Polk were base-born based on a marriage record where the father is not named. Many men died or took off while their wives were pregnant and the women remarried and the kid never knew who his real father was. Never assume anything.........find a document........there is always a paper trail. You just have to know where to look. ---------------- Vann says: "Henry Polk resided with the family of John and Christina Ryman at the time of the 1850 Census. There may have been some relationship of Henry to 12 year old John M Polk in dwelling 1144. They are the only two individuals with the surname Polk in this immediate area. When John married he did not list the name of his father. He indicates that his mothers name was Rebecca. This was a rather common occurrance for base-born children. There is no evidence that Henry was the father of John, however, it does pose an interesting question." ------------------- I'm sorry, no disrespect intended, but I don't believe that the above is a question that should even be considered. Henry Polk born circa 1826 would have been 13 years old when he fathered John M. Polk. I believe John born circa 1837 is his youngest brother or half-brother. I believe they also had a sister named Rosannah born 1831 and possibly a brother named Philip Polk. One of two things happened to leave these two boys with family members. Either most of the family died in one of the epidemics of Typhoid, Cholera, or Smallpox that was going around between 1835-38 in Shenandoah County or the man of the house went off and left the family and died or the family left the area with the older children, leaving the two youngest behind, to be sent for later and something happened and they were never sent for. In the 1830 Federal Census there is the following family which may be the family of Henry and John M. Polk. 1830 Federal Census: Virginia Western District, Shenandoah County Page 136 W. T. Allen, Enumerator JOHN POKE {POLK} 1 male under 5 years of age {Henry Polk} 1 male 5 and under 10 years of age 1 male 15 and under 20 years of age 1 male 40 and under 50 years of age {Head of Household John Polk} 1 female under 5 years of age 1 female 5 and under 10 years of age 2 females 10 and under 15 years of age 1 female 30 and under 40 years of age Since Rosannah Polk was not born in 1831 and John M. Polk was not born in 1837, they are not reflected in this census. There is no 1840 census for John Poke/Polk which re-enforces my premise as to he died or left the area. John might have married twice: M/1: Catharine M/2: Rebecca ------------------------ If my premise is correct, then possibly John Ryman raised Henry Polk as a son rather then a grandson, if one of his daughter married John Polk and died in the epidemic after the birth of John M. Polk in 1837. I found the following information about John Ryman. John Ryman Born: 23 August 1764, Probably Philadelphia County, PA, possibly son of Ludwig Ryman Died: 5 November 1858, Shenandoah County, Virginia Married: Date Unknown to Christina Fadley Born: 1769, Pennsylvania Died: 1 November 1863, Rockingham County, Virginia Supposedly John Ryman left a Will in Shenandoah County probated in 1859 but I could find no evidence of this Will. Children of John Ryman 1. Henry Ryman 2. Joseph Ryman 3. Jacob Ryman 4. John Ryman 5. David Ryman 6. Samuel Ryman 7. Daniel Ryman 8. Lewis Ryman 9. Elizabeth Ryman 10. Hannah Ryman {Could her name be Hannah Rebecca Ryman and married John Polk?} 11. Catharine Ryman ------------------------ One more thing. There had to be Polk families in Shenandoah County early on since we found the following marriages: Leonard Lonas and Mary Polk 7 June 1813 Bondsman: Adam Polk John Polk and Cathrine Funkhouser 14 March 1811 Bondsman: Adam Polk John Barhman and Elizabeth Polk, His Ward 9 June 1817 Simon Polk and Dorothy Dellinger 6 June 1844 Bondsman: Frederick Dillinger ------------------------- Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

In the 1860 Census, Shenandoah County, Dwelling 1142, family 1140 (Orkney Springs), 37 year old Henry Polk is a farm hand in the family of Lydia Wolf (maiden name Will, daughter of George Will and Catherine Byrd). Their neighbors are Joseph and Elizabeth Ryman. Marvin J Vann, "Shenandoah County, Virginia: A study of the 1860 Census," Volume 4, page 340, says this about Henry: "Henry Polk resided with the family of John and Christina Ryman at the time of the 1850 Census. There may have been some relationship of Henry to 12 year old John M Polk in dwelling 1144. They are the only two individuals with the surname Polk in this immediate area. When John married he did not list the name of his father. He indicates that his mothers name was Rebecca. This was a rather common occurrance for base-born children. There is no evidence that Henry was the father of John, however, it does pose an interesting question." Next door to Lydia Wolf in the 1860 Census is the family of Joseph Ryman, brother of Elizabeth Ryman Good, his wife Elizabeth, and their daughters Nancy, Rachel and Sarah. The most interesting chancery case you present below indicates that Henry Polk is the half brother of some of the individuals listed. Looking at the records for these people it seems that Henry was the son of Elizabeth Ryman Good 1801-1891 who was the daughter of John Ryman and Christina Fadely and the wife of Abraham Good born 1797. "...leaving as his heirs at law his half brothers and sisters and their children Abraham Good, Christena Good, Mary Webb, Catharine Marston and  Joseph Marston her husband, half brothers and sisters and nephews Noah Good,  Jacob Good, Greenbury Webb..." Catherine Marston: Catharine Good, 26, daughter of Abraham and Elizabeth, married Joseph Marston, 31, son of Joseph and Hannah, on 13 May 1869 Mary Webb could be one of: Ann A Good, 27, daughter of Abraham and Elizabeth married Jacob Webb, 30, son of Haram and Sarah, on 25 Dec 1866 Sarah Good, 22, daughter of Abraham and Elizabeth, married Isaac Webb Jr., 33, son of Haram and Sarah, on 13 Mar 1862 Abraham and Elizabeth also had a son named Abraham Unfortunately the records I have access to show no further light on Henry Polk, but I hope this helps. Larry Will On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:34 PM, <Chochoruss@aol.com> wrote: > Vashenan Listmates, I had transcribed this earlier this morning and sent it >  to Jan but decided to put it on the List since sometimes you have to go > through  the back door to get to the front. Maybe someone on the List who is > researching  some of these names can help Jan with the mystery of Henry Polk > and  the Rymans. > > Gloria B. > ------------------------ > 1850 Federal Census: Virginia > 58th District, Shenandoah County > Enumerated 15 October 1850 > Page 130A > Lines 18-24, HH 1800/1812 > > John Ryman 86/Male/Farmer/$1000/PA > Christena Ryman 80/Female/PA > Henry Ryman 59/Male/Farmer/VA > Daniel Ryman 45/Male/Farmer/VA > Catharine Ryman 34/Female/VA > Christena Ryman 24/Female/VA > Henry Polk 26/Male/VA > ---------------------- > > Shenandoah County Virginia Chancery Case #1900-034 > Christena Ryman, et al VS Administrators and Heirs of Henry Polk, et  al. > > > To the honorable T. W. Harrison, Judge of the Circuit Court of the County > of Shenandoah. > Humbly complaining, Sheweth unto your honor, Your Orators Christena Ryman, > Ellen and Lydia Ryman, and Leah Jones on behalf of themselves and all other >  creditors of Henry Polk deceased, who shall come in and contribute to the > expenses of this suit; That the said Henry Polk departed this life on or > about  ---day of 1898. And was in his life time, and at the time of his death, > justly  and truly indebted unto the Complainant Christena Ryman in the > principal sum of  $205.00 with interest from 24 August 1896 by bond, and in the > sum of $52.00 on  open account "See Exhibit A. & B." And unto the > Complaintant Ellen and lydia  Ryman in the principal sum of $23.33 with interest from > 25 August 1882 subject  to a credit of $2.00 9 February 1889 by bond, and > also the sum of $10.00 with  interest from same date "See Exhibit C & D." And > unto the Complaintant Leah  Jones the sum of $5.00 with interest from same > date by hand "See Exhibit  E." >   That the said Henry Polk deceased was possessed of but small  personal > property, utterly insufficient to pay said debt after payment of final > expenses and charges of administration. And was also entitled and seized of > considerable real estate VIZ: Six and one half tenth undivided in the real > estate of which John Ryman died seized and possessed, that is to 6 1/2 tenth in > 205 acres, less 65 acres sold to Charles M. Ryman by Henry Polk in his > lifetime;  And said henry Polk being so seized and possessed died at about the > ----day of  1898 intestate, leaving as his heirs at law his half brothers and > sisters and  their children Abraham Good, Christena Good, Mary Webb, > Catharine Marston and  Joseph Marston her husband, half brothers and sisters and > nephews Noah Good,  Jacob Good, Greenbury Webb who are entitled to such of > his estate as may remain  after the payment of his debts, if anything remain, > that due administration of  Henry Polk estate was granted to C. P. Wightman > of the County Court of  Shenandoah County. >   Your orator Christena Ryman has lived with said Henry Polk  deceased on > said land and in possession of part thereof, she being entitled to  the same > under the Will of Catharine Ryman, one share and by purchase of David > Ryman, one share and Henry Ryman 1 1/2 share by taking care of same, and in > other ways. She having been in possession may grant but without Deed. In tender >  consideration whereof and for as much as your orators are undevisees? in > the  premises, save by the aid of a Court of Equity, where matters of this > kind are  properly cognizable and relievable. To the end therefore that > justice may be  done in the premises. Your orator pray that C. P. Wightman > administrator of  Henry Polk deceased and Charles M. Ryman and Abraham Good, > Christena Good, Mary  Webb, Catharine Marston and Joseph Marston her husband, Noah > Good, Jacob Good  and Greenbury Good heirs at law of said Henry Polk > deceased be made parties  defendants to this bill and that they be required to > answer the same, answer  under oath being so duly waived. >   That an account may be taken by and under the decree of this  honorable > court of the said debts so due to your orator a aforesaid, and of all  other > debts which were owing by the said decedent at the time of his death, and > which still remain unpaid, according to their priorities; That an account > may be  taken of the personal estate in the hands of C. P. Wightman > Administrator; That  an account be taken of the real estate of which said Henry Polk > died seized and  possessed. And that said land may be sold for the payment of > said debts. And for  such other and further relief in the premises as to > said court may seem meet and  the circumstances of the case may require. And > your Orators will ever pray and  c. > P. W. Magruder > --------------- > 3 April 1899 the Court ordered that the land be divided and appointed > Anasias Polk, John D. Scothan, Luther Lonas, and Noah Miller or any three to do > so. > > They divided the tract of land so that Henry Polk's share was 73 acres to > be sold for collection of debt. > -------------- > Researched and Transcribed by Gloria  Bushong > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Vashenan Listmates, I had transcribed this earlier this morning and sent it to Jan but decided to put it on the List since sometimes you have to go through the back door to get to the front. Maybe someone on the List who is researching some of these names can help Jan with the mystery of Henry Polk and the Rymans. Gloria B. ------------------------ 1850 Federal Census: Virginia 58th District, Shenandoah County Enumerated 15 October 1850 Page 130A Lines 18-24, HH 1800/1812 John Ryman 86/Male/Farmer/$1000/PA Christena Ryman 80/Female/PA Henry Ryman 59/Male/Farmer/VA Daniel Ryman 45/Male/Farmer/VA Catharine Ryman 34/Female/VA Christena Ryman 24/Female/VA Henry Polk 26/Male/VA ---------------------- Shenandoah County Virginia Chancery Case #1900-034 Christena Ryman, et al VS Administrators and Heirs of Henry Polk, et al. To the honorable T. W. Harrison, Judge of the Circuit Court of the County of Shenandoah. Humbly complaining, Sheweth unto your honor, Your Orators Christena Ryman, Ellen and Lydia Ryman, and Leah Jones on behalf of themselves and all other creditors of Henry Polk deceased, who shall come in and contribute to the expenses of this suit; That the said Henry Polk departed this life on or about ---day of 1898. And was in his life time, and at the time of his death, justly and truly indebted unto the Complainant Christena Ryman in the principal sum of $205.00 with interest from 24 August 1896 by bond, and in the sum of $52.00 on open account "See Exhibit A. & B." And unto the Complaintant Ellen and lydia Ryman in the principal sum of $23.33 with interest from 25 August 1882 subject to a credit of $2.00 9 February 1889 by bond, and also the sum of $10.00 with interest from same date "See Exhibit C & D." And unto the Complaintant Leah Jones the sum of $5.00 with interest from same date by hand "See Exhibit E." That the said Henry Polk deceased was possessed of but small personal property, utterly insufficient to pay said debt after payment of final expenses and charges of administration. And was also entitled and seized of considerable real estate VIZ: Six and one half tenth undivided in the real estate of which John Ryman died seized and possessed, that is to 6 1/2 tenth in 205 acres, less 65 acres sold to Charles M. Ryman by Henry Polk in his lifetime; And said henry Polk being so seized and possessed died at about the ----day of 1898 intestate, leaving as his heirs at law his half brothers and sisters and their children Abraham Good, Christena Good, Mary Webb, Catharine Marston and Joseph Marston her husband, half brothers and sisters and nephews Noah Good, Jacob Good, Greenbury Webb who are entitled to such of his estate as may remain after the payment of his debts, if anything remain, that due administration of Henry Polk estate was granted to C. P. Wightman of the County Court of Shenandoah County. Your orator Christena Ryman has lived with said Henry Polk deceased on said land and in possession of part thereof, she being entitled to the same under the Will of Catharine Ryman, one share and by purchase of David Ryman, one share and Henry Ryman 1 1/2 share by taking care of same, and in other ways. She having been in possession may grant but without Deed. In tender consideration whereof and for as much as your orators are undevisees? in the premises, save by the aid of a Court of Equity, where matters of this kind are properly cognizable and relievable. To the end therefore that justice may be done in the premises. Your orator pray that C. P. Wightman administrator of Henry Polk deceased and Charles M. Ryman and Abraham Good, Christena Good, Mary Webb, Catharine Marston and Joseph Marston her husband, Noah Good, Jacob Good and Greenbury Good heirs at law of said Henry Polk deceased be made parties defendants to this bill and that they be required to answer the same, answer under oath being so duly waived. That an account may be taken by and under the decree of this honorable court of the said debts so due to your orator a aforesaid, and of all other debts which were owing by the said decedent at the time of his death, and which still remain unpaid, according to their priorities; That an account may be taken of the personal estate in the hands of C. P. Wightman Administrator; That an account be taken of the real estate of which said Henry Polk died seized and possessed. And that said land may be sold for the payment of said debts. And for such other and further relief in the premises as to said court may seem meet and the circumstances of the case may require. And your Orators will ever pray and c. P. W. Magruder --------------- 3 April 1899 the Court ordered that the land be divided and appointed Anasias Polk, John D. Scothan, Luther Lonas, and Noah Miller or any three to do so. They divided the tract of land so that Henry Polk's share was 73 acres to be sold for collection of debt. -------------- Researched and Transcribed by Gloria Bushong

In the 1870 census we find 6 month Milton living with Rachel: 1870 US Census, page 10, Ashby, Shenandoah, Virginia. Dwelling 73, Family 73. Nancy Coffman 34 4000/600 housekeeper VA, Barbara A Coffman 2 VA, Sarah E Ryman 9 VA, Joseph Ryman 77 blacksmith VA, Rachel Ryman 24 VA, Milton Ryman 6/12 VA, Jacob Chick 20 VA laborer. Harpine's Zirkle family history says Rachel is the daughter of Levi Ryman and Annie Zirkle. Rachel married Elcana Miller on 28 July 1870. Rachel is also profiled in Vann's analysis of the 1860 Census (Volume 4, p. 334-335) but no mention of Charles is made there. It is possible that Charles Milton Ryman was base born, i.e. Rachel was unmarried... Larry Will http://www.zirlkereunion.org On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM, <CYLGowdy@aol.com> wrote: > > A Charles Ryman, age 6 months, was living in Shenandoah Co., VA (in Lee). > Might be yours. > David W. Ryamn, 30 > Catharine, 25 > Alice, 2 > Charles, 6 months > > In 1880, Charles M. Ryman, age 10, was living in Ashby, Shenandoah Co. > Everybody born in VA. > Henry Polk, 57, farmer > Catherine Ryman, 70, aunt > Christine Ryman, 52, cousin > Charles M. Ryman, 10, nephew > > > In a message dated 8/29/2010 3:41:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > hood@shentel.net writes: > > Would  anyone know the father of CHARLES MILTON RYMAN, born Nov 1869  died > 1921?  Charles and his wife Virginia are both buried at Christ  Reformed > Church Cem. Conicville VA > > He married VIRGINIA ALICE  WEATHERHOLTZ on 8 Oct 1891, but it only gives his > mother's name, RACHEL  RYMAN. > > With appreciation, > > Jan Hood, Woodstock  VA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

A Charles Ryman, age 6 months, was living in Shenandoah Co., VA (in Lee). Might be yours. David W. Ryamn, 30 Catharine, 25 Alice, 2 Charles, 6 months In 1880, Charles M. Ryman, age 10, was living in Ashby, Shenandoah Co. Everybody born in VA. Henry Polk, 57, farmer Catherine Ryman, 70, aunt Christine Ryman, 52, cousin Charles M. Ryman, 10, nephew In a message dated 8/29/2010 3:41:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hood@shentel.net writes: Would anyone know the father of CHARLES MILTON RYMAN, born Nov 1869 died 1921? Charles and his wife Virginia are both buried at Christ Reformed Church Cem. Conicville VA He married VIRGINIA ALICE WEATHERHOLTZ on 8 Oct 1891, but it only gives his mother's name, RACHEL RYMAN. With appreciation, Jan Hood, Woodstock VA

Would anyone know the father of CHARLES MILTON RYMAN, born Nov 1869 died 1921? Charles and his wife Virginia are both buried at Christ Reformed Church Cem. Conicville VA He married VIRGINIA ALICE WEATHERHOLTZ on 8 Oct 1891, but it only gives his mother's name, RACHEL RYMAN. With appreciation, Jan Hood, Woodstock VA

Part 9 of 9 ---------------- CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM FRAVEL AND SOPHIA HAAS 8. HARRIET HAAS FRAVEL Born: 27 August 1835, La Porte County, Indiana Died: 26 July 1920, Washington DC Buried: 28 July 1920, Rock Creek Cemetery, District of Columbia Married: 24 December 1856, La Porte County, Indiana to CHARLES K. SHRYOCK CHARLES KIRBY SHRYOCK Born: 5 August 1835, Rochester, Indiana Died: 22 September 1901, Washington, District of Columbia Buried: Rock Creek Cemetery, District of Columbia ---- La Porte County Indiana Marriages Book D Harriet H. Fravel and Charles K. Shryock Married: 24 December 1856 ----- 1850 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte, La Porte County Enumerated 9 August 1850 Page 262B Lines 10-17, HH 143/149 Abram Fravel 54/Male/White/ClerkInStore/$1200/VA Sophia Fravel 52/Female/White/VA Miranda Fravel 24/Female/White/VA Eusebia Fravel 22/Female/White/VA Martha Fravel 20/Female/White/VA Caroline Fravel 18/Female/White/VA HARRIET FRAVEL 14/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN Margaret Haas 30/Female/White/Insane/VA {Sister of Sophia and daughter of Michael Haas/Hass.} ----- 1860 Federal Census: Indiana Rochester Town, Fulton County Enumerated 7 August 1860 Page 160/670 Lines 36-40, HH 1088/1090 Charles K. Shryock 24/Male/Printer/-----$200/IN Hattie H. Shryock 23/Female/IN Theophilus Shryock 2/Male/IN Stephen Murphy 20/Male/Shoemaker/OH Alesta Alexander 11/Female/AttendedSchool/IN ----- 1870 Federal Census: District of Columbia Washington City Enumerated 6 July 1870 Page 522B Lines 27-35, HH 1035/1274 Charles K. Shryock 33/Male/White/ClerkCityPostOffice/-----$600/IN H. H. Shryock 32/Female/White/KeepingHouse/IN Theopolis Shryock 12/Male/White/AttendedSchool/IN Carrie Shryock 10/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN May Shryock 4/Female/White/DistrictOfColumbia M. F. Aveline 40/Female/White/ClerkTreasuryDept/----$200/VA Dora Aveline 17/Female/White/AttendedSchool/California C. F. Bowen 25/Male/White/ClerkCenOffice/-----$500/IN Sarah Jackson 42/Female/Black/DomesticServant/VA ----- 1880 Federal Census: District of Columbia Washington City, ED 19 Enumerated 5 June 1880 Page 160D Lines 25-29, HH 1835/170/209 Charles K. Shryock White/Male/43/Married/ClerkPostOffice/IN/IN/IN Harriet H. Shryock White/Female/43/Wife/KeepingHouse/IN/IN/VA Ophy Shryock White/Male/21/Son/Single/LetterCarrier/IN/IN/IN Carrie B. Shryock White/Female/19/Dau/Single/IN/IN/IN E. May Shryock White/Female/13/Dau/AttendedSchool/DC/IN/IN ----- 1900 Federal Census: District of Columbia Washington City, Ed 12 Enumerated 8 June 1900 Page 13A, Sheet 13 Lines 10-15, HH 2410/172/243 Charles K. Shryock Head/W/M/Aug1835/64/Md45yrs/ClerkGovernment/RentsHm/IN/PA/IN Harriet H. Shryock Wife/W/F/Aug1835/64/3children3living/IN/VA/VA Harriet E. Seale Sister/W/F/oct1837/62/Widowed/5children3living/Maine/Maine/Maine Asahel B. Searle SonInLaw/W/M/June1866/34/Md11yrs/ToprapherUSGeoSurvey/DC/Vermont/Maine Electra M. Seale Dau/W/F/Oct1866/34/NoChildren/DC/IN/IN Ellen J. Hall Servant/Black/Female/April1875/25/Md6yrs/3children1living/DC/IN/MD ----- 1910 Federal Census: Harriet H. Shyrock was still living in Washington DC but the 1910 census for Washington, we believe, is not indexed and I simply do not have the time to spend going through this census to find her. ----- 1920 Federal Census: District of Columbia Washington City, ED 297 Enumerated 2 & 3 January 1920 Page 115B, Sheet 1 Lines 81-85, HH 50-21 George J. Zimmerman Head/RentsHm/M/W/53/Widowed/GovernmentAuditor/MO/Alsace/KY Benson Searle Partner/M/W/53/Married/TopographicEngineerGovernment/DC/VT/Maine Maye Searle Partner/F/W/53/Married/DC/IN/IN Harriet H. Shryock Partner/F/W/84/Widowed/IN/VA/VA Callie S. Briggs Partner/F/W/59/Widowed/IN/IN/IN ----- District of Columbia Deaths and Burials 1840 - 1964 Family History Center Place of Death: District of Columbia Name: Harriet H. Shryock Female, White, Widowed Died: 26 July 1920 Burial: 28 July 1920 Spouse: Charles K. Shryock Born: 27 August 1835, Indiana Father: Abraham Fravel, Born VA Mother: Sophia Haas, Born VA -- TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION Rock Creek Cemetery District of Columbia Same tombstone Charles K. Shryock 5 August 1835 22 September 1901 Harriet H. Shyrock 27 August 1835 26 July 1920 --------------- CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM FRAVEL AND SOPHIA HAAS 9. Infant Fravel Born: About 1837 Died: About 1837 Burial: Patton Cemetery, La Porte County, Indiana --- Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

Part 8 of 9 ----------------------------- CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM FRAVEL AND SOPHIA HAAS 7. CAROLINE VIRGINIA FRAVEL Born: 17 July 1832, Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: 5 May 1890, La Porte County, Indiana Both Buried: Pine Lake Cemetery, La Porte County, Indiana Married: 15 November 1860, La Porte County, Indiana to JUDGE WILLIAM B. BIDDLE JUDGE WILLIAM B. BIDDLE Born: December 1831, Bourbon County, Kentucky Died: 28 May 1914, La Porte County, Indiana Married Twice: M/1: Caroline Virginia Fravel Graduate of Ashbury University, Greencastle, Indiana Served in Civil War, promoted to Captain 87th Indiana Infantry. 1 child: Sophia Elizabeth Biddle who married Harry W. Richter M/2: Mary Sophia Fravel, widow of Waldo Williams {Niece of first wife Caroline Virginia Fravel} ------ 1850 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte, La Porte County Enumerated 9 August 1850 Page 262B Lines 10-17, HH 143/149 Abram Fravel 54/Male/White/ClerkInStore/$1200/VA Sophia Fravel 52/Female/White/VA Miranda Fravel 24/Female/White/VA Eusebia Fravel 22/Female/White/VA Martha Fravel 20/Female/White/VA CAROLINE FRAVEL 18/Female/White/VA Harriet Fravel 14/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN Margaret Haas 30/Female/White/Insane/VA {Sister of Sophia and daughter of Michael Haas/Hass.} ------ 1860 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte City, La Porte County Enumerated 24 June 1860 Page 86 Lines 25-27, HH 718/683 Abraham Fravel 63/Male/Gentleman/$5000-$100/VA Sophia Fravel 62/Female/VA CAROLINE FRAVEL 27/Female/VA ------ Early Marriages of La Porte County Indiana Book E Carrie V. Fravel and William B. Biddle Applied for license: 13 November 1860 Married: 15 November 1860 ----- 1870 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte Township, La Porte County Enumerated NO DATE STATED page 191B Lines 4-6, HH 1277/1375 William B. Biddle 39/Male/White/Lawyer/$3700-$600/KY Caroline V. Biddle 38/Female/White/KeepingHouse/VA Sophia E. Biddle 1/Female/White/AtHome/IN ----- 1880 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte, ED 85, La Porte County Enumerated 9 June 1880 Page 167C Lines 16-18, HH 251/274 Myers House Hotel William B. Biddle White/Male/49/Boarder/AttorneyAtLaw/KK/KY/KY Caroline Biddle White/Femela/47/Boarder/VA/VA/VA Sophia Biddle White/Female/10/Boarder/AttendedSchool/IN/KY/VA ----- 1900 Federal Census: Indiana City of La Porte, Center Township, ED 42, La Porte County Enumerated 18 June 1900 Page 71B, Sheet 15 Lines 80-82, HH 1030/388/393 Indiana Avenue Harry W. Richter Head/W/M/Aug1868/31/Md/Lumber&CoalDealer/IN/Germany/Germany Elizabeth B. Richter Wife/W/F/July1870/29/NoChildren/IN/IN/IN WILLIAM B. BIDDLE FatherInLaw/W/M/Dec1831/68/Widowed/AttorneyInLaw/OwnsHmFree/KY/KY/KY ----- 19 July 1904 William B. Biddle marries for a second time to Mrs. Mary Sophia Fravel Williams {Widow of Waldo Williams & niece of his first wife Caroline Virginia Fravel} La Porte County Indiana Marriages Volume II William B. Biddle to Mary F. Williams {Her third marriage} Married: 19 July 1904 ----- 1910 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte City, Center Township, Ed 87, La Porte County Enumerated 21 April 1910 Page 96A, Sheet 7 Lines 14-15, HH 1304/139/164 Indiana Avenue William B. Biddle Head/M/W/79/MdTwice/Md5yrs/Attorney/OwnsMtgHm/KY/KY/KY Mary Biddle Wife/Female/White/56/MdThreeTimes/1child1living/IN/SC/SC ------------------------------------------- TO BE CONTINUED: Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

Part 7 of 9 --------------------------------- CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM FRAVEL AND SOPHIA HAAS 6. Martha A. Fravel Born: 1830, La Porte County, Indiana Died: Unknown Married: 7 January 1852, La Porte County, Indiana, to CHARLES W. LEWIS COL. CHARLES W. LEWIS Born: 1825, Culpeper County, Virginia Died: 3 February 1871, San Diego, San Diego County, California Buried: Mount Hope Cemetery, City of San Diego, California Section IOOF, Lot 19, Row 7 Served in the Mexican War & Civil War We don't believe there were any children from this marriage. Charles W. Lewis left a Will in San Diego County, California. ----- La Porte County Indiana Marriages Book C Martha A. Fravel and Charles W. Lewis Married: 7 January 1852 ----- 1850 Federal Census: Indiana La Porte, La Porte County Enumerated 9 August 1850 Page 262B Lines 10-17, HH 143/149 Abram Fravel 54/Male/White/ClerkInStore/$1200/VA Sophia Fravel 52/Female/White/VA Miranda Fravel 24/Female/White/VA Eusebia Fravel 22/Female/White/VA MARTHA FRAVEL 20/Female/White/VA Caroline Fravel 18/Female/White/VA Harriet Fravel 14/Female/White/AttendedSchool/IN Margaret Haas 30/Female/White/Insane/VA {Sister of Sophia and daughter of Michael Haas/Hass.} ----- 1860 Federal Census: California Cache Creek Township, Yolo County Enumerated 20 June 1860 Page 589B Lines 7-10, HH 359/359 C. W. Lewis 34/Male/Farmer/$1900-$4960/VA Martha Lewis 30/Female/VA James McCollum 42/Male/Farmer/NY Charles Machenry 22/Male/Laborer/IN ----- We did find this census and wonder if it is Charles W. Lewis 1870 Federal Census: Arizona Territory Williamsons Valley and Vicinity, Yavapai Territory Enumerated 27 July 1870 Page 113A Lines 17-18, HH 6 Alfred Zimmerman 45/Male/White/Farmer/NY C. W. Lewis 42/Male/White/Miner/PA ----- Charles W. Lewis died 3 February 1871 and his Will was probated in San Diego County, California 13 March 1871. ----- TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION CHARLES W. LEWIS Colonel 7th Calif. Inf. ----- NOTE: Charles W. Lewis and wife Martha A. Fravel are a mystery. According to a nice biography on Find A Grave for Col. Charles W. Lewis, it stated that after the Civil War he lived in Tubac, Arizona until two years before his death when he moved to San Diego, California. It never mentions that he was married and had a wife. One source states that Martha married sometime after the death in 1871 of Charles W. Lewis but we have not been able to find any evidence of her marriage or death in California or Arizona. We also could not find her in any census except the 1860. Someone needs to send for the Will of Charles W. Lewis and see if it names a wife. -------------------------------------------- TO BE CONTINUED: Researched and Submitted Gloria Bushong