Thank you, Glenn. I will give them a try. Coral

Carol I have used two reseachers for work in Frederick County-- both are good. Linda Varney--email at llv@shentel.net Louella Boone lives closer to Winchester does not have email--address is Route 3 -Box 568, Shepardstown WV 25443- Phone 304-876 7113 Glenn Cline

I am hoping to find someone who will look up a will or appraisal of an estate for me in Frederick Co. The information I have is: Will of William Holmes (estate) Frederick Co., Will Book 16, page 454 March 15, 1831. I believe he lived in Lebanon Church (Cotton Town) at this time but also had property in Frederick Co. I would be happy to pay for time and costs. Thanks, Coral in California

Thanks for posting this to the list ... Shirley S. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/bly.html > > This book can be found on the index page by clicking on COURTHOUSE. >

Thanks to everyone who told me where to find this site. I checked that page but didn't recognize the "Minutes of the Court" as the guardianship records I was looking for. Bookmarked it this time! Thanks again, Linda Alley wrote: > > I think you're looking for scanned images of Daniel Bly's book on > guardianship records. Go here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/bly.html > > This book can be found on the index page by clicking on COURTHOUSE. > > Alley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda S. Brennan" <stokesy48@earthlink.net> > To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:47 PM > Subject: [VASHENAN] guardianship records > > > A year or so ago, I found a web site that included scanned images of > > some guardianship records of Shenandoah County. Now I can no longer find > > that site. Is anyone familiar with what I'm talking about and where I > > could find it? > > > > Thanks, Linda Stokesbury Brennan > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html -- Linda _____ Linda Stokesbury Brennan linda@abbicreative.com Abbi Creative 3303 W. Saginaw, Suite C3, Lansing, MI 48917 517.886.9708 fax 517.886.9719

I think you're looking for scanned images of Daniel Bly's book on guardianship records. Go here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/bly.html This book can be found on the index page by clicking on COURTHOUSE. Alley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda S. Brennan" <stokesy48@earthlink.net> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] guardianship records > A year or so ago, I found a web site that included scanned images of > some guardianship records of Shenandoah County. Now I can no longer find > that site. Is anyone familiar with what I'm talking about and where I > could find it? > > Thanks, Linda Stokesbury Brennan >

Hello listees, A year or so ago, I found a web site that included scanned images of some guardianship records of Shenandoah County. Now I can no longer find that site. Is anyone familiar with what I'm talking about and where I could find it? Thanks, Linda Stokesbury Brennan STOKESBURY/BERRY, STRETCHBURY, OLINGER

I am researching the MCCARTY family of Shenandoah Co, VA: John MCCARTY b 1758 Frederick Co, VA married Ellen Jones b abt 1760 1. Where are they buried and when did they die? 2. Was Sarah "Sally" McCarty b 1780 Shenandoah Co, VA (married Joseph M. SKELTON 1800) the daughter of John McCarty and Ellen Jones? 3. Did John McCarty give any patriotic service during Rev War? 4. Who were John McCarty's parents? Patti W-I

THE FREE PRESS, THURSDAY, JANUARY 2, 2003 (WOODSTOCK, VA) PAGES FROM NEWSPAPERS PAST Jan. 23, 1884 List of Pensioners Shenandoah County Lists Name, Post office address, cause for pension, monthly rate. Isabella Ross, Cabin Hill, widow, $8 per month Mary Borden, Capon Road Depot, widow 1812, $8 Elizabeth Reeves, Edinburg, widow 1812, $8 Rebecca Huffman, Edinburg, widow 1812, $8 Catherine Brown, Edinburg, widow 1812, $8 Elizabeth Grandstaff, widow 1812, $8 Lydia Clinedinst, Edinburg, widow 1812, $8 John B. Upton, Harrisville, cbr. rhuem $4 Uz Barnes, Harrisville, wd, 1, thi, $4 Barbary Dick, Harrisville, widow 1812, $8 Elizabeth Drake, Harrisville, widow 1812, $8 Julia A. Culp, Harrisville, dept. mother, $8 Mary S. Hawkins, Harrisville, widow, $8 Abia Wamsley, Harrisville, wd. rt. am, $6 Margaret Stanley, Harrisville, widow, $8 Mary Rexroad, Harrisville, widow, $8 Daniel Coffman, Lantz's Mill, surv. 1812, $8 Elizabeth Fadeley, Lantz's Mill, widow 1812, $8 Margaret Sibert, Lebanon Church, widow 1812, $8 Mary Hausenfluck, Maurertown, widow 1812, $8 John T. Hickman, Moore's Store, surv. 1812, $8 Jacob Kipps, Moore's Store, surv. 1812, $8 Elizabeth Orebough, Moore's Store, widow 1812, $8 Rebecca Rupert, Mount Clifton, widow 1812, $8 Elizabeth Coffman, Mount Clifton, widow 1812, $8 Henry Fadeley, Mount Clifton, surv. 1812, $8 John Allbright, Mount Clifton, surv. 1812, $8 Elizabeth Wellard, Mount Jackson, widow 1812, $8 Elizabeth Eberly, Mount Olive, widow 1812, $8 Dorothy Keller, Mount Olive, widow 1812, $8 Marg't E. H. Moffet, New Market, widow 1812, $8 Ann M. Rice, New Market, widow 1812, $8 Michael Roller, New Market, surv. 1812, $8 Isaac Brill, Paddy Mill, surv. 1812, $8 Christena Layman, Saumsville, widow 1812, $8 Sarah Cullers, 7 Fountains, widow 1812, $8 Catherine Lichliter, 7 Fountains, widow 1812, $8 Mary G. Helsley, Strasburg, widow 1812, $8 Priscilla Funk, Strasburg, widow 1812, $8 Nathan Enroughty, Strasburg, surv. 1812, $8 George Grove, Strasburg, insanity, $50 Elizabeth Will, Toms Brook, widow 1812, $8 Jacob Peer, Toms Brook, surv. 1812, $8 Christena Orndorff, Van Buren Furnace, widow 1812, $8 Mary J. Koontz, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Julia Marshall, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Mary Orndorff, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Anna Wisman, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Rebecca Rodeffer, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Sarah Ryman, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Sarah Ryman, Woodstock, widow 1812, $8 Jos. E. Sine, Woodstock, wd. r. forearm, $1

I am trying to sort out relationships, and find the marriage and parents for my Emanuel FELLOWS (1788-1870), who married Sarah COPP (1793-1864). They would have been married during or just before 1810. Any information or connections to these families? Thanks, Gordon

Joyce, I am curious to know if you meant 1757-61? I think that the date you have used is a bit too late for Indian captures....I am interested in your incident. I do not have my books handy...so this is from memory. I remember that Hannah Dennis was captured at Kerr's Creek in the 1757 incident. Where were your Renick's? Oh, phooey....I can not stand to be so ignorant...I looked it up...your Nancy Renick was captured in the same incident as Hannah Dennis...but Mr. Withers says that they were at Craig's creek which does not seem to show up on my DeLorme atlas. He says: In the summer of 1761 about sixty Shawanee warriors penetrated the settlements on James River. To avoid the fort at the mouth of Looney's Creek, on this river, they passed through Bowen'w gap in Purgatory Mountain in the night; and ascending Purgatory Creek, killed Thomas Perry, Joseph Dennis and his child and made prisoner his wife, Hannah Dennis. They then proceeded to the house of Robert REnix, where they captured Mrs. Renix, a daughter of Sampson Archer and five children, William, Robert, Thomas Joshua, and Betsy--Mr. Renix not being at home. Then they went to the house of Thomas Smith where Renix was and shot and scalped him and Smith; and took with them, Mrs. Smith and Sally Jew, a white serving girl. .... The Indians then divided, and twenty of them taking the prisoners, the plunder and some horses which they had stole, set off by the way of Jackson's river, for the Ohio; the remainder started towards Cedar Creek, witht the ostensible view of committing further depredations....the whole settlement were collected at Paul's stackade fort, at the Big Spring near to Springfield. .... ...the two groups of Indians met up at the forks of the James and Cowpasture rivers, proceeded to Ohio without further molestation.... I would be very interested in knowing where all of this happened. Marsha in WV JArmscoop@aol.com wrote: > > Hello Researchers, > > I present this as "promised" in an earlier message, in case any of this is > familiar to anyone. > > There is a well known story about the capture of the Renick/Renix/Rennick > family in 1857-61. I have information from the most accepted Renick book, and > draper papers, and even Archer Assoc. information, to name a few of my > resources for this family. If anyone wants more information about this, you > may contact me, and I will relate this capture more fully. In the meantime, > though I will attempt to keep this short and to the point. > > One of Robert's daughter's who was captured was a Nancy Renick. She and her > mother (Elizabeth Archer), and several siblings were captured by the Indians. > Capt. Robert was killed. Eventually reports say that this Nancy Renick was > liberated by John Vincent. I have nothing more on him except that I suspect > he may have been the brother of our Joseph Vincent who was reported to have > spent enough time in Shenandoah CO/Valley to have had several children born > there. Apparently the Indian incident occurred in Augusta Co. which later > became Greenbrier Co. >

Here is the verbatim wording for the information about Joseph Vincent renting a place in Frederick Co. VA Pool's Administrators vs. Vincent 21 July 1808, Complainants are George Brown and B. Barkley, administrators of Daniel Poole, who was the brother of Brown and Barkley and of the wife of Joseph Vincent (defendent here). Daniel Poole was never married. Joseph Vincent's answer sworn to in Frederick, 1808. Henry Steele age 86/36 deposes in Versailles, Kenutcky, 20 September 1810. He rented his land in Frederick Co., VA to Poole and Vincent in 1806. William Vincent son of Joseph Deposes. (Scotch-Irish Settlers in America, 1500-1800's Augusta Co. Court Records CD)

Hello Researchers, I present this as "promised" in an earlier message, in case any of this is familiar to anyone. There is a well known story about the capture of the Renick/Renix/Rennick family in 1857-61. I have information from the most accepted Renick book, and draper papers, and even Archer Assoc. information, to name a few of my resources for this family. If anyone wants more information about this, you may contact me, and I will relate this capture more fully. In the meantime, though I will attempt to keep this short and to the point. One of Robert's daughter's who was captured was a Nancy Renick. She and her mother (Elizabeth Archer), and several siblings were captured by the Indians. Capt. Robert was killed. Eventually reports say that this Nancy Renick was liberated by John Vincent. I have nothing more on him except that I suspect he may have been the brother of our Joseph Vincent who was reported to have spent enough time in Shenandoah CO/Valley to have had several children born there. Apparently the Indian incident occurred in Augusta Co. which later became Greenbrier Co. For some time, I was quite confused because the daughter of this Capt. Robert Renick/Renix/Rennick was reputed to have been rescued by a John Vincent. Then we have documented information that a daughter Nancy Renick, of Capt. Robert Renick's son, Robert and his wife, Letitia Dalton, also married a John Vincent. I thought they were the same Robert and Nancy....but by now, I have determined that they were in separate generations. The daughter of Capt. Robert apparently married or went off with a John Vincent, when he rescued her. The Nancy Renick who married our John Frazier Vincent (son of Joseph Vincent, and Rosanna Poole of Shenandoah Valley), was apparently the dau. of the Capt.'s son Robert Renick. In the son Robert's will, he mentions his Vincent granddaughters, who are ones that earlier researchers had verified as being the daughters of John Frazier Vincent and Nancy Renick. The mysterious part is that the Renick Book and other more verified Renick Researchers do not list a Nancy as being a child of Robert and Letitia Dalton Renick. They do list "unknown daughter" so this could be her.....This John Frazier Vincent is also listed by our researchers as b. in Shenandoah Valley. I am looking for documentation of this Joseph Vincent, and his children who are claimed to have been born in the Shenandoah Valley, besides the fact that it seems to have been published in some books....Guess I need vital records, which I may have around here if I look hard enough...:-) Most of the other lines below Joseph Vincent, have been verified, except for the Joseph Vincent Sr. and his apparent Shenandoah locations.... Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

Hi! The Heritage Day falls on our school's spring break so may try to make it - depends how much snow falls this April. Wanted to give everyone a heads up on the pre-publication of The New Hottel History - Charles Line - good through Mar. 1, 2003 - I know the over 900 pages will be a long awaited book in my library! Perhaps it could be added to the book section of the Shenandoah web site! Linda Houyouse

Hello and a happy 2003 to everyone. Thanks once again to Michael Bruck for over 500 new tombstone photos just added to the Shenandoah County GenWeb site! Cemeteries photographed are: Bowman-Fisher Cemetery, Maurertown Clem McInturff Cemetery, Maurertown Emanuel Episcopal Cemetery, Woodstock Mt. Calvary United Church of Christ Cemetery, Calvary St. Johns United Church of Christ Cemetery, Harrisville Links to these photos can be found at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/cem/whatsnew.html>. A reminder of Shenandoah County Heritage Day, Saturday, April 12, 2003 at the Fire Hall in Edinburg, VA from 11 am to 4 pm. Exhibitors are still being accepted. I will soon put a list of families, etc. to be represented on the web site along with details about the event. Please plan to attend if you can. This will be a great opportunity to collect information and photos as well as to meet our Shenandoah County cousins face to face. You are encouraged to bring old family photos, documents, Bibles, etc. to be copied so they can be archived at the Shenandoah County Library for the use of future researchers. This is also a great way to preserve your family's history. More updates to come soon. Don *************************************************** Don Silvius Coordinator Shenandoah County VAGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> <dsilvius@intrepid.net> <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> ***************************************************

In a message dated 1/1/2003 9:13:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, anewsom@gcfn.org writes: > From my book of Frederick Co marriages I have: > John Vincent paying the bond for the marriage between Elizabeth Vincent & > Robert Smith 9 Jan 1836. > > This is the Fredick Co reference that I have about our Joseph Vincent. Most of the info that I have regarding Joseph was put into my program a few years ago, before I had a lot more experience at documenting....so I am not sure how much is compilers conclusions..... Joseph Vincent Sr. and Rosanna Poole rented land in Frederick Co. Va.from Henry STEELE in 1806. [From Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement,Vol II by Chalkley] Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

The following was on the Germmana List and is forwarded in case it may be of interest. In a message dated 12/6/02 9:29:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, jjandbj11@comcast.net writes: << Andreas, do you recall in what context Dunmore County appeared?   >>     Dunnmore Extract from the "Diary Extract"  of Rev. Jacob Franck, Lutheran pastor at the Culpeper church from 1775 to 1778,  as copied in manuscript by Heinrich Melchior Mühlenberg [ Journal page 137] [... and as transcribed and translated by Andreas Mielke] 1776 April 4 [...] Auf Verlangen etlicher deutscher Gemeinden in Dunnmore County, die [anjetzo?] gar keinen Prediger noch Catecheten hatten, und mit Consent unserer Aeltesten, Vorsteher und Gemein-Glieder ward genoethiget, einen Besuch dahin zu thun im Monath April. April 19. Auf meiner Rückreise aus Dunnmore County predigte ich früh in Meadow Northy und tauffte 8 Kinder. Juny 1. Nach Anhalten und Versprechen besuchte ich abermahl die Gemeinden in Dunnmore im Monath Juny, predigte früh d[en] 1 Juny in der sogenanten Pine Kirche und taufte 6 Kinder. Juny 2 Heute predigte in der sigenannten Roeders Kirche ind tauffte 15 Kinder. Jun: 5 Auf meinem Ruckweg aus Dunnmore County verkündigt ich Gottes Wort in Meadow Northy, oder wie sie es sonst nennen in Hogs Bill und tauffte 9 Kinder vor der Predigt. [etc] [My translation, AM:] 1776 April 4. [...] Upon request of several German congregations in Dunnmore County who [that?] never had a preacher nor Catechist, and with Consent of the Elders, council men and members of the Congregation [of the Culpeper Church] I had to make a visit there in the month of April. April 19. On my return trip from Dunnmore County I preached early in Meadow Northy and baptized 8 children. June 1. After request and promise I again visited the Congregation in Dunnmore in the month of June, preached early on June 1 in the so-called Pine Church and baptized 6 children. June 2. Today I preached in the so-called Roeder's Church and baptized 15 children. Jun. 5 On my way back from Dunmore County I announced God's word in Meadow Northy or as they call it otherwise, in Hogs Bill [Hawks Bill] and baptized 9 children before the sermon. [Goes on with encounter of the "neue Taeuffer Secte," the new Baptist Sect - don't know yet if he means Baptists or Anabapists (which he seems to call WiederTaeuffer). Give me some time.] Ps. I read the county was called after John Murray, Lord Dunmore. A second county honored his son, George Murray, Lord Fincastle. PPS Incidentally, it was the bi-lingual and bi-denominational, the  militant preacher Peter Muhlenberg, then  of Dunmore County, who  introduced the then Philadelphia school teacher Jacob Franck to the Culpeper Congregation in August 1775. Schwarbach had been tired out and underpaid, the catechist Moeller had broken his word after not even half a year and prferred Reading, PA, so they eagerly welcomed Franck...who stayed for 3 years -- and no day longer. ==== GERMANNA_COLONIES Mailing List ==== You can contact the List Manager at: GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com

Joyce, For the information you seek on Shenandoah County, Va. and Page County, Va., including maps, formation, etc., etc., I suggest you go to VaGenWeb, < http://www.rootsweb.com/~vagenweb/>, and click on VA Counties Map, County Formation Dates and Parent Counties, Dunmore (now Shenandoah) County and Page County. Also there are two histories that may interest you. They are "A History of Shenandoah County Virginia" by John W. Wayland, and "A Short History of Page County Virginia" by Harry M. Strickler. Joe

Researchers, Here is a two generation lineage for our Joseph Vincent (Sr.) There may be some errors, and compilers conclusions which I am trying to verify....always glad for additions and corrections. Descendants of Joseph Vincent,Sr. 1 Joseph Vincent,Sr. b: 1748 in Scotland d: 1834 . +Rosanna Poole b: 1758 d: 1823 . 2 William Vincent b: Abt. 1771 in Greenbrier Co. WV Abt. 1795 . 2 Eve Sarah Vincent b: 1772 in Shenandoah Co. Va. d: WFT Est. 1818-1872 ..... +John Hinchman b: October 22, 1773 in Chesapeake Bay, Dorchester, MD d: January 15, 1844 . 2 Susannah Vincent b: 1774 in Shenandoah Valley, Virginia d: 1865 ..... +William Henry Legg,Sr. b: 1772 in Prince William Co, Va. d: 1859 . 2 [1] Rosanna Vincent b: 1779 in Shenandoah Co. Va. d: 1864 ..... +James Jarrett I b: Abt. 1750 d: 1822 . *2nd Husband of [1] Rosanna Vincent: ..... +Michael Duffy . 2 Joseph Vincent,Jr. b: 1780 in Shenandoah Co. Va. d: Bet. 1820 - 1821 ..... +Lucy Jopling b: 1778 in Kanawha Co. WVA d: 1836 . 2 Nancy Vincent b: 1783 in Shenandoah Co. Va. ..... +William Dixon . 2 [2] John Frazier Vincent b: 1785 in Shenandoah Valley, Virginia d: December 29, 1864 ..... +Nancy Renick b: 1783 in Greenbrier Co. Wva d: Bet. 1822 - 1826 . *2nd Wife of [2] John Frazier Vincent: ..... +Sarah Ellen Hoke b: 1806 in Monroe County Virginia d: April 15, 1882 . 2 Michael Vincent b: 1787 in Shenandoah Co. WVa d: 1871 ..... +Harriet Ann Baldwin Tinsley b: September 1, 1814 in , Amherst, Virginia d: August 9, 1881 . 2 Elizabeth H. Vincent b: 1789 in Greenbrier Co. Wva d: 1877 ..... +Owen Jarrett b: 1790 in Muddy Creek, Greenbrier Co. WV d: 1852 Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

Hi Stacy, and researchers, Thanks for your response. I am assuming the information was from a book? It doesn't give ages or names of the people? Is this a library book, or accessable anywhere? I am not real familiar with the history of Shenandoah Co. or anything. Did Page Co. form out of Shenandoah Co.? I checked the information that I have for our Joseph Vincent's (Sr.)family. I believe that most of them were born in Shenandoah (Valley/Co.) According to the records I have on bdates, there were seven children b. bef. 1785....the one b. in 1785, may not have been counted. Allowing for a possible death of one of them, that would make 7 in the family in 1785. I am not clear on the difference between Shenandoah Valley and Co.....am assuming that Sacramento Valley is within Shenandoah Co. Is this correct? So, the information in the 1785 "census" would quite probably have been our Joseph Vincent Sr. It did not ring a bell at the time that I heard about a Cornelius Vincent line, that it began in that same area....I have been looking for a link to other Vincents in the area for some time....We do not have anything much about this Joseph Vincent's ancestors, other than we have a brother John listed in a will, I believe. Joyce in CA <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop">http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop</A> In a message dated 1/1/2003 10:46:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, sgrancy48@chilitech.net writes: > Hi Joyce > Just got your info on the Shenandoah Co, Va site about the Vincents. I > found a Joseph Vincent with seven members in the house, listed under heads > of families in 1785 living on the east side of Massanutten Mt within the > limits of todays Page Co. Info from ' A History of Shenandoah County, Va by > John W Wayland. Good Luck with your research > Stacy Reedy Crouse <A HREF="mailto:sgrancy48@chilitech.net">sgrancy48@chilitech.net</A> > >