----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Corder Halvorson" <nancy@halvorson.us> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:32 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [VASHENAN] Re:Gordon in Shenandoah Co. VA > Hi, > > Here is another Gordon marriage > > Susan Gordon m. Simeon Corder 7 Dec. 1820. According to Susan, they > married at Gooney Manor. John Corder was the bondsman and James Gordon > gave permission for Susan to marry. > > Nancy > Santa Fe, NM > > At 03-02-03 11:35, you wrote: > >Hi Judy and researchers, > >Here are Gordon and related marriages in Shenandoah Co. VA > >You don't by any chance have any Gordons in Prince George Co. VA, who may > >have gone west to Oregon? > >Joyce in CA > ><A > >HREF="http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop">http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoo p</A> > > > >Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 > > > >Goodwin, Bartlett Spouse : Ohaver, Madaline [Mrs] > > Marriage date : Nov 13, 1828 > >Gorden, William Spouse : Watkins, Jane > > Marriage date : Apr 9, 1791 > >Gordon, Alexdr. Spouse : Kidwell, Sarah > > Marriage date : Nov 13, 1815 > >Gordon, James Spouse : Gordon, Ann > > Marriage date : Mar 1, 1797 > >Gordon, Joseph Spouse : Lehew, Jane > > Marriage date : Aug 23, 1827

Thanks to Joyce.. > Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 > Shenandoah Co. VA > Conner, Abner Spouse : Russell, Ann > Marriage date : Mar 1, 1790 My direct, David Russell, was bondsman for Ann Russell's marriage to Abner Conner. Their children: 1) Massa Conner 2) John Russell Conner (b. Shen.Co,VA+ Rebecca Lahew, b 1794..(She d. 12 Apr 1872.) * 3) William Conner 4) Eleanor Conner 5) Sarah Conner, 6) Abner Conner, Jr. b. IND, + Mary Ann Doughman * Is there any connection between the two Lahew families.?? > Conner, Richard Spouse : Lehew, Elizabeth > Marriage date : Dec 22, 1792 Thanks.. Shirley Starks

Dear Joyce, Could you look up in your records and see if there is a Henry Huffman b: ca 1769/70 who married ca 1793/94 to a Barbara _____? I would appreciate it so much. I am trying to find the marriage and who their parents were. Thank you so much. Carla Kettell of Calif. cjkettell@aol.com

It must refer to the Eastern part of present day Virginia. The song was written April 20, 1927 by Buell Kazee. One of the earliest recordings was in 1934 by the Carter Family. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: RE: [VASHENAN]Correction: More info: John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Date: 2/3/2003 4:09:14 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:Walt.Flory@fscv.net">Walt.Flory@fscv.net</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) At 02:56 PM 3/02/2003, David & Kym Pitman wrote: >I said that in the 1910 census Isaac's son stated his father was born in >"old Virginia." I was incorrect. He said his father was born in "E >Virginia" which I took to differentiate it from W. Virginia. I don't think >this changes anything, but I like to be accurate wherever possible. > >Kym There is a very pretty American Folk song which contains the words: I was born in East Virginia, North Carolina I did roam ... I had always assumed that what was referred to was the Eastern part of the state of Virginia and that this song predated the existence of the state of West Virginia. Can anyone either confirm or deny any of this? Walt ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

At 02:56 PM 3/02/2003, David & Kym Pitman wrote: >I said that in the 1910 census Isaac's son stated his father was born in >"old Virginia." I was incorrect. He said his father was born in "E >Virginia" which I took to differentiate it from W. Virginia. I don't think >this changes anything, but I like to be accurate wherever possible. > >Kym There is a very pretty American Folk song which contains the words: I was born in East Virginia, North Carolina I did roam ... I had always assumed that what was referred to was the Eastern part of the state of Virginia and that this song predated the existence of the state of West Virginia. Can anyone either confirm or deny any of this? Walt

I said that in the 1910 census Isaac's son stated his father was born in "old Virginia." I was incorrect. He said his father was born in "E Virginia" which I took to differentiate it from W. Virginia. I don't think this changes anything, but I like to be accurate wherever possible. Kym -----Original Message----- From: David & Kym Pitman [mailto:dpitman@fuse.net] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:36 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASHENAN] More info: John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Thanks to all who have responded and who have also researched selected sites and cds for me. I'll try to answer some of the follow-up questions to the best of my ability. According to a book of Civil War soldiers that I found in Athens Co., John was born 16 Oct. 1807 in Shenandoah Co. and "moved from his native state to Athens County, Ohio in 1835." He married Jane Brooks in December of 1836. Isaac, whom I am assuming is his brother, seems to have arrived at the same time in Athens Co., and married Jane Brooks' niece within two years of their arrival also. I have tried without success to find any relationship with John and Isaac to the other known Williams families in the Athens Co. region. Many of the others were from PA or were illiterate. John and Isaac are always listed on the same census pages, always state their state of nativity as VA, and were both literate. Isaac's son stated in the 1910 census that his father was born in "Old Virginia." John and Isaac either owned or rented land originally set aside for Ohio University. I know that their farms were next to each other and know the range and township locations there in Ohio. Perhaps in the future I'll be able to research the land records. I believe that John's real birthdate was 01 October 1807 and that Isaac's was 30 April 1810 based upon other circumstantial evidence. I am relatively sure that John's birthdate of 16 Oct 1807 was a misreading of old microfilm on the part of the book compiler. Anyway, I did a search of the 1810 Shenandoah census and came up with the following family prospects based upon the fact that each of these families had at least 2 boys under the age of 10 listed: 1. Samuel Williams (2 males under 10) 2. Benj. Williams (2 males under 10) 3. James Williams - or McWilliams - I couldn't read it clearly (2 males under 10) 4. William Williams (3 males under 10) 5. Philip Williams (2 males under 10) I have not searched the surrounding counties for census information, but such would be plausible since I can only place the family in Shenandoah Co. at the time of John's birth in 1807. Jump ahead to the 1830 census. I reasoned that John and family "may" have still been in Shenandoah Co., VA at that time since he "moved from his native state, etc" in 1835. I found a few likely households within the Williams entries: pg. 151 Williams, Benjamin -- not a candidate - had only himself and his wife and children " 2 Btn 97th Regt.: Williams, Joseph -- not a candidate -- free colored family " " Williams, John -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 152 2Btn 13th Regt.: Williams, Isaac -- age 20-30 years C0ULD BE "MY" ISAAC!! " " Williams, Peter Sr. -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 153 Williams, David -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 154 Williams, Thomas -- not a candidate -- seems to be he and his wife " Williams, Benjamin -- not a candidate -- seems to be himself, his wife, a male under 5 pg. 85[Woodstock] Williams, Philip jr -- not a candidate -- himself, his wife, and male under 5 pg. 86 Williams, Mary -- possible -- several people in household, including 2 males 20-30 pg. 87 Williams, Lewis -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household " Williams, John -- possible -- 2 males 20-30, a female 20-30, 2 females under 5 (COULD BE JOHN, A BROTHER OR OTHER RELATIVE, A SISTER-IN-LAW, AND TWO YOUNG NIECES pg. 88 Williams, Joel Sr. -- possible -- has 1 son 20-30 along with other people in household " Williams, Joel jr. -- not possible -- wrong ages in household " Williams, Jacob -- not possible -- himself, wife, and 4 small children " Williams, Moses -- not possible -- himself, wife, and a small son As you can see, the possibilities are limited. I am very interested in the Williams families listed on pgs. 86, 87 & 88 of the census. I cannot tell where they lived (I couldn't read it and I'm not familiar with Shenandoah Co. geography yet) but several are listed on lines 7, 8, 10, and 11 on page 88, which would suggest a possible family connection. It would appear that these are the sons of Joel Sr. (age 60-70). I am also interested in the Isaac Williams of the 2nd Battalion, 13th Regiment. To answer another question: John and Isaac were both too young to fight in the War of 1812, however, their father supposedly would have been the right age to do so. Well, I think now everyone knows pretty much what I know, except for their descendants which I will supply to anyone who is interested. Kym -----Original Message----- From: JArmscoop@aol.com [mailto:JArmscoop@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:39 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Hello Kim, and researchers, In Ohio Settlers cd, I found many John Williams, in the war of 1812...don't know if any are the ones you are looking for...An example of one is Roll of Capt. John McNeals Co/Cavalry, 1812 Roster. County unknown. It lists John Williams, Musician, amongst other names. Would your John have been in the war of 1812, as well as the Civil War? Do you know the cemetery in probably Athens County that he might have been buried in? I see Cemetery lists for Ohio on one of the disks. Hope this is of some help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 1/31/2003 8:40:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, dpitman@fuse.net writes: > I've made this request before about one of my brick walls but thought I'd > try again in case someone has come across something in recent months that > could help me. > > I am trying to locate the parents of John R. Williams, born 16 October 1807 > in Shenandoah Co., VA. He removed from the state of VA in 1835. I found > this information in his obituary. > > Can anyone help me place him into a family? > > Kym > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Thanks to all who have responded and who have also researched selected sites and cds for me. I'll try to answer some of the follow-up questions to the best of my ability. According to a book of Civil War soldiers that I found in Athens Co., John was born 16 Oct. 1807 in Shenandoah Co. and "moved from his native state to Athens County, Ohio in 1835." He married Jane Brooks in December of 1836. Isaac, whom I am assuming is his brother, seems to have arrived at the same time in Athens Co., and married Jane Brooks' niece within two years of their arrival also. I have tried without success to find any relationship with John and Isaac to the other known Williams families in the Athens Co. region. Many of the others were from PA or were illiterate. John and Isaac are always listed on the same census pages, always state their state of nativity as VA, and were both literate. Isaac's son stated in the 1910 census that his father was born in "Old Virginia." John and Isaac either owned or rented land originally set aside for Ohio University. I know that their farms were next to each other and know the range and township locations there in Ohio. Perhaps in the future I'll be able to research the land records. I believe that John's real birthdate was 01 October 1807 and that Isaac's was 30 April 1810 based upon other circumstantial evidence. I am relatively sure that John's birthdate of 16 Oct 1807 was a misreading of old microfilm on the part of the book compiler. Anyway, I did a search of the 1810 Shenandoah census and came up with the following family prospects based upon the fact that each of these families had at least 2 boys under the age of 10 listed: 1. Samuel Williams (2 males under 10) 2. Benj. Williams (2 males under 10) 3. James Williams - or McWilliams - I couldn't read it clearly (2 males under 10) 4. William Williams (3 males under 10) 5. Philip Williams (2 males under 10) I have not searched the surrounding counties for census information, but such would be plausible since I can only place the family in Shenandoah Co. at the time of John's birth in 1807. Jump ahead to the 1830 census. I reasoned that John and family "may" have still been in Shenandoah Co., VA at that time since he "moved from his native state, etc" in 1835. I found a few likely households within the Williams entries: pg. 151 Williams, Benjamin -- not a candidate - had only himself and his wife and children " 2 Btn 97th Regt.: Williams, Joseph -- not a candidate -- free colored family " " Williams, John -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 152 2Btn 13th Regt.: Williams, Isaac -- age 20-30 years C0ULD BE "MY" ISAAC!! " " Williams, Peter Sr. -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 153 Williams, David -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household pg. 154 Williams, Thomas -- not a candidate -- seems to be he and his wife " Williams, Benjamin -- not a candidate -- seems to be himself, his wife, a male under 5 pg. 85[Woodstock] Williams, Philip jr -- not a candidate -- himself, his wife, and male under 5 pg. 86 Williams, Mary -- possible -- several people in household, including 2 males 20-30 pg. 87 Williams, Lewis -- not a candidate -- wrong ages in household " Williams, John -- possible -- 2 males 20-30, a female 20-30, 2 females under 5 (COULD BE JOHN, A BROTHER OR OTHER RELATIVE, A SISTER-IN-LAW, AND TWO YOUNG NIECES pg. 88 Williams, Joel Sr. -- possible -- has 1 son 20-30 along with other people in household " Williams, Joel jr. -- not possible -- wrong ages in household " Williams, Jacob -- not possible -- himself, wife, and 4 small children " Williams, Moses -- not possible -- himself, wife, and a small son As you can see, the possibilities are limited. I am very interested in the Williams families listed on pgs. 86, 87 & 88 of the census. I cannot tell where they lived (I couldn't read it and I'm not familiar with Shenandoah Co. geography yet) but several are listed on lines 7, 8, 10, and 11 on page 88, which would suggest a possible family connection. It would appear that these are the sons of Joel Sr. (age 60-70). I am also interested in the Isaac Williams of the 2nd Battalion, 13th Regiment. To answer another question: John and Isaac were both too young to fight in the War of 1812, however, their father supposedly would have been the right age to do so. Well, I think now everyone knows pretty much what I know, except for their descendants which I will supply to anyone who is interested. Kym -----Original Message----- From: JArmscoop@aol.com [mailto:JArmscoop@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:39 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Hello Kim, and researchers, In Ohio Settlers cd, I found many John Williams, in the war of 1812...don't know if any are the ones you are looking for...An example of one is Roll of Capt. John McNeals Co/Cavalry, 1812 Roster. County unknown. It lists John Williams, Musician, amongst other names. Would your John have been in the war of 1812, as well as the Civil War? Do you know the cemetery in probably Athens County that he might have been buried in? I see Cemetery lists for Ohio on one of the disks. Hope this is of some help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 1/31/2003 8:40:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, dpitman@fuse.net writes: > I've made this request before about one of my brick walls but thought I'd > try again in case someone has come across something in recent months that > could help me. > > I am trying to locate the parents of John R. Williams, born 16 October 1807 > in Shenandoah Co., VA. He removed from the state of VA in 1835. I found > this information in his obituary. > > Can anyone help me place him into a family? > > Kym > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Hi Judy and researchers, Here are Gordon and related marriages in Shenandoah Co. VA You don't by any chance have any Gordons in Prince George Co. VA, who may have gone west to Oregon? Joyce in CA <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop">http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop</A> Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 Goodwin, Bartlett Spouse : Ohaver, Madaline [Mrs] Marriage date : Nov 13, 1828 Gorden, William Spouse : Watkins, Jane Marriage date : Apr 9, 1791 Gordon, Alexdr. Spouse : Kidwell, Sarah Marriage date : Nov 13, 1815 Gordon, James Spouse : Gordon, Ann Marriage date : Mar 1, 1797 Gordon, Joseph Spouse : Lehew, Jane Marriage date : Aug 23, 1827

Sarah "Sally" McCarty b abt 1780 Shenandoah Co, Va married 1800 Shenandoah Co, Va to Joseph Skelton. I find confusing information about her parentage: John McCarty b 1758 Frederick Co, VA and Ellen Jones b abt 1760 Ireland David McCarty b 1754 VA, married Sarah unknown Do you know which McCarty was this Sarah "Sally" father??? thanks, Patti

Hi Judy and researchers, Here are the Shenandoah Co. Marriages for Ailshite and related spellings. Hope this helps someone. Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 Ailishite, Daniel Spouse : Pixler, Elizabeth Marriage date : Dec 18, 1815 Ailshite, Henry Spouse : Burner, Priscilla Marriage date : Aug 7, 1815 Ailshite, Michael Spouse : Wright, Delpha Marriage date : Jul 30, 1789 Ailshite, Peter Spouse : Coontz, Margaret Marriage date : Aug 14, 1789 Aleshire, Henry P. Spouse : Mauck, Rebecca Marriage date : Dec 7, 1829 Aleshire, Joseph Spouse : Koontz, Sally Marriage date : May 16, 1820 Aleshite, Conrad Spouse : Judy, Anna Marriage date : Oct 23, 1819 Aleshite, George Spouse : Purdon, Agnes Marriage date : Aug 6, 1825 Alshire, George Spouse : Green, Delila [Mrs] Marriage date : Apr 11, 1825 Alshite, George Spouse : George, Rebecca Marriage date : Oct 23, 1808 Elsea, Jonathan Spouse : Mathews, Sarah Marriage date : Sep 13, 1813 Elshite, Henry Spouse : Haan, Elizabeth Marriage date : Apr 24, 1786 Elzea, Lloyd Spouse : Waters, Margaret Marriage date : Aug 21, 1833 Elzey, William Spouse : Sexton, Keziah Marriage date : Dec 13, 1796

Hi Lori, Will send this to the list, too, in case others are interested in the same name. Nice to meet you. :-) Here are the marriages that you requested. Hope this helps. If you need more, let me know. I do a certain amount for "others" each day. It gives me a breather from my own research and seems to clear my head.....:-) Lookups are easy. Either it is there or it isn't. You know? Joyce in CA <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop">http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop</A> Marriage Index: KY, NC, TN, VA, WV, 1728-1850 Shenandoah Co. VA Busy, Edmond B. W. Spouse : Carryer, Anna Marriage date : Apr 12, 1842 Conner, Abner Spouse : Russell, Ann Marriage date : Mar 1, 1790 Conner, James Spouse : Brill, Cathrine Marriage date : Sep 16, 1839 Conner, John Spouse : Myers, Susan Marriage date : Jul 20, 1805 Conner, John Spouse : Walter, Elizabeth Marriage date : Oct 3, 1842 Conner, Richard Spouse : Lehew, Elizabeth Marriage date : Dec 22, 1792 Conner, Thomas Spouse : Ross, Mary Marriage date : Feb 21, 1831 Conner, Turner Spouse : Estep, Polly Marriage date : Jan 3, 1850 Conner, William J. Spouse : Peer, Cathrine Marriage date : Oct 3, 1842 Rigsby, John Spouse : Hoover, Magdalene Marriage date : Mar 27, 1818 Riley, Barney Spouse : Henry, Rachel Marriage date : Aug 11, 1800 Riley, James Spouse : Funkhouser, Barbara Marriage date : May 3, 1816 Riley, Miles Spouse : Burkett, Elizabeth Marriage date : Jul 3, 1814 Riley, William Spouse : Miller, Mary Marriage date : Jun 2, 1821 In a message dated 2/3/2003 7:26:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, kemurphy@infi.net writes: > Hi Joyce, > My name is Lori Murphy, and I saw your generous offer to do look-ups on > the Shenandoah list. I have a feeling you will be inundated! > > Would you be able to look up the name Riley/Ryley/Reiley for me? Most > of my Rileys are centered around Rappahannock County, and I've never > checked Shenandoah for them; I've begun wondering if there are > connections there that I've overlooked. > > I have a few other names that could be in Shenandoah as well (Conner, > Bussey), but if you only have time to check one, then Riley is my top > priority. > > Thank you so much, I really appreciate it, > >

Hello Kim, and researchers, In Ohio Settlers cd, I found many John Williams, in the war of 1812...don't know if any are the ones you are looking for...An example of one is Roll of Capt. John McNeals Co/Cavalry, 1812 Roster. County unknown. It lists John Williams, Musician, amongst other names. Would your John have been in the war of 1812, as well as the Civil War? Do you know the cemetery in probably Athens County that he might have been buried in? I see Cemetery lists for Ohio on one of the disks. Hope this is of some help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 1/31/2003 8:40:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, dpitman@fuse.net writes: > I've made this request before about one of my brick walls but thought I'd > try again in case someone has come across something in recent months that > could help me. > > I am trying to locate the parents of John R. Williams, born 16 October 1807 > in Shenandoah Co., VA. He removed from the state of VA in 1835. I found > this information in his obituary. > > Can anyone help me place him into a family? > > Kym >

Hello Glenn, Kym and researchers, My research in the cds that I have, led me to realize that I do have an early marriage list for Shenandoah Co. VA, 1704-1850. I am not sure if it appears on the website. I believe it was mentioned that there was a problem with a marriage list someone was trying to make on the site. I did not notice one, the day I checked it. :-) The list that I found, is on disk 229 which is the marriage cd for WV, VA, KY and other selected states. I looked for some of the marriages that you and other researchers connected with my own research would expect to see in the list. I was surprised to find few familiar ones. (They might be familiar to you, though. :-) Ones that I did find include: Phillip Williams married Sarah Croudson Oct. 15, 1791 John Williams m. Catherine Coffman Aug. 16, 1826 Polly Williams m. George Cline Feb. 26, 1818 I would be glad to do lookups for other names. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 2/1/2003 8:11:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, GCline8181@aol.com writes: > My contact with the Williams family of Shenandoah Co is with Mary Ann > (Polly) > Williams who married George Cline on 26 Feb 1818 in Shen Co and later moved > > to Harrison Co Indiana. They are buried in Williams Family Cemetery in > Harrison Co. Also buried there is John Williams b 30 May 1806 in Shen Co, > wife was Catherine ?? and he was believed to be brother to Mary Ann > Williams. > > Glenn Cline > >

Hi Kym, and researchers, I have been checking some of my cds for your Williams family. It is really like looking for a needle in a haystack, so I have not checked each incidence of a John, Benjamin, Phillip or Issac Williams. None the less, I have found a couple things which might interest you and the other researchers who are interested in this line. On the "Ohio Source Records", on Pioneers of Ohio cd #528, I found: Tax Records for Athens Co. Oh for 1810 Nathaniel Williams and a John Williams are listed in this list. Would Nathaniel be familiar to you? I saw several incidences of a Nathaniel in some of the other records that I looked at. Could this be a father, son there in 1810, by any chance? Do you think this could be your John? There are approximately three file pages of names in Athens Co. Ohio, which I could send you or anyone on the list, who might be interested in it, by rtf or whatever. In order to copy/paste from the cd, one must copy and paste each page individually, which isn't a problem; but one can't copy sections of the page..... Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 2/1/2003 7:42:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, dpitman@fuse.net writes: > I wish I could, but that is all I know about his life in Shenandoah Co. He > moved to Athens Co., OH in 1835 and married there in 1836. He died of > illness as a soldier in the Civil War. > > I believe John had a brother named Isaac, but their relationship is > circumstantial. Actually, I'm descended from Isaac, but I could not find > an > obit for him. All indications are that John and Isaac were brothers, or > perhaps cousins. Since John's obit had his birthdate and place of birth > listed, he seemed the most likely candidate for research and > identification. > > Do you have any information about the Williams families of Shenandoah Co.? > Or do you know of the location of any birth records? > > It was my hope that someone who is researching a Williams families of > Shenandoah would recognize the birthdate or approximate birthdate of > someone > in their databases. > > Kym > >

Looks like a damn epidemic. IN wants to keep death records private for 75 years after the event and births private for 100 years. I hope I read that wrong. http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2003/IN/IN1540.1.html Alley

This has been really making the rounds. I do not see a time period for this so does this mean all of our dead kin will have rights? Alley > 030940904 > HOUSE BILL NO. 2426 > AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE > (Proposed by the House Committee on General Laws > on January 28, 2003) > (Patron Prior to Substitute--Delegate Nixon) > A BILL to amend the Code of Virginia by adding a section numbered > 2.2-3808.2, relating to posting certain information on the Internet; > prohibitions. > Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia: > > 1. That the Code of Virginia is amended by adding a section numbered > 2.2-3808.2 as follows: > > § 2.2-3808.2. Posting certain information on the Internet; prohibitions. > > A. Beginning July 1, 2003, no state agency or court clerk shall post on a > state agency or court-controlled website any document that contains the > following information: (i) an actual signature; (ii) a social security > number; (iii) a date of birth identified with a particular person; (iv) the > maiden name of a person's parent so as to be identified with a particular > person; (v) any financial account number or numbers; or (vi) the name and > age of any minor child. > > B. Every agency and every court clerk that posts any document on a state > agency or court-controlled website may require that any party who files > documents in any form with such agency or clerk provide, in addition to the > original document, a redacted copy of such documents that excises the > information prohibited by subsection A. Failure to provide such redacted > copy shall relieve the agency or court clerk of any liability or > responsibility in the event that such information is posted on a state > agency or court-controlled website. > > Each such agency and clerk shall post notice that (i) includes a list of the > documents routinely posted on its website, (ii) the information listed in > subsection A shall be redacted from such documents, and (iii) such documents > are for informational purposes only. Such notice shall indicate the location > of the original document. > > C. Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit access to any > original document as provided by law. > <END>

Mr. H. M. Artz found a land terrapin on his farm on the river near Woodstock, with the intials V.B. and date 1873 carved on the shell. Mr Artz brought the terrapin to Woodstock and it left thru the open door of his car and will probably spend the next fifty years in Woodstock. Bruce C Young III

Kym I believe, but cannot prove, that Mary Ann (Polly) Williams was the daughter of Phillip and Sarah Croudsen Williams. Polly married George Cline on 26 Feb 1818 in Shenandoah County Va and Sarah Williams was listed in the George Cline household in Harrison County, Indiana in the 1850 census for that county. Glenn Cline

Thank you! I'll see if I can find out more about Philip and Sarah. Kym -----Original Message----- From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:12 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Philip Williams married Sarah Croudson on 15 Oct 1791 in Shenandoah County - she was the daughter of John. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [VASHENAN] John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 Date: 2/1/2003 11:42:02 AM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:Annerupert@aol.com">Annerupert@aol.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Although I cannot name the parents of your John R Williams in question, you may want to look at the possibility of a Philip Williams born about 1780 who married a Miss Croudson. I know they had one son about 1800 named Samuel Croudston Williams. I suspect there were more children. Most of this information was compiled by studying cemetery information in the Manassas Cemetery and comparing with other Civil War Records on the name Williams. This information is only possibility to go on. Anne ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Please keep me in mind if you ever uncover more on your wife's Williams line. Kym -----Original Message----- From: BCYIII@aol.com [mailto:BCYIII@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:27 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] John R. Williams b. 16 Oct 1807 I was reading 8-31-1923 Shenandoah Hearld . The death of Mrs. B F Williams ( Martha ) she was an Emswiller my wifes father side family b 1861. Benjamin F Williams was 27 married Martha 8-17-1886. He was the son of Henry and Martha Williams. So far this is all I have from a short study. Bruce C Young III ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html