My Dinges family has at least 25 documented spellings including some as far off as Tennis and Kingus. A lot of this was due to the German accent on the English clerk's ears not just the formation of the letters. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [VASHENAN] HELP Date: 2/8/2003 7:18:45 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:LRiffey007@aol.com">LRiffey007@aol.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Thanks Joyce, you are the one and only response I've had. I am aware of the spelling variations which I find may samples just with my last name. One example I have found with the different letters is with an ancestor that died in 1810. His initials only are on the tombstone alone with the dates. His initials are J.P., but his stone has I.P on it. The difference is noted in several publications about his service in the Rev. War stating that the J's were made to look like an I in that time period. This is the only example that I am aware of. Thanks again, Larry ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Thanks Joyce, you are the one and only response I've had. I am aware of the spelling variations which I find may samples just with my last name. One example I have found with the different letters is with an ancestor that died in 1810. His initials only are on the tombstone alone with the dates. His initials are J.P., but his stone has I.P on it. The difference is noted in several publications about his service in the Rev. War stating that the J's were made to look like an I in that time period. This is the only example that I am aware of. Thanks again, Larry

Hi Larry, Since no one seems to have answered this, unless they did it privately, I will make a stab at an answer. Mispelling of names, or alternative forms are always the norm in research. Never count anything out as wrong because it is spelled differently. I recently found our Muth family in Nebraska with the spelling of Mulh.....evidently someone forgot to cross the T or something. Happy hunting, Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 2/5/2003 11:49:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, LRiffey007@aol.com writes: > In my quest for Riffey information I found a will in the VA archives (Prince > > William Co) with the spelling of Rifey. However when I received the film, > the > name appeared to be Rixey. I know that there were some Rixeys in Culpeper > and > Shenandoah Co.'s. in the 1700's but my question is: is anyone aware of how > the "f" was written in that time period? A name change in the spelling? > > Larry Riffey > Plano, TX > >

Thank you, Sandra, my order's going out today! At 05:32 PM 2/7/03 -0600, you wrote: >The English records of Zion have been published by Warrick Burruss in his >"Faith in the Valley Series: Vol IV--Zion church English Records >1827-1890"'; the book is available from the Shenandoah County Historical >Society for $15.00 + .68 tax; shipping handling $3.50. >Orders can be mailed to SCHS 514 Stony Creek Boulevard, Edinburg, VA 22824 >Sandra Yelton >

The English records of Zion have been published by Warrick Burruss in his "Faith in the Valley Series: Vol IV--Zion church English Records 1827-1890"'; the book is available from the Shenandoah County Historical Society for $15.00 + .68 tax; shipping handling $3.50. Orders can be mailed to SCHS 514 Stony Creek Boulevard, Edinburg, VA 22824 Sandra Yelton on 2/7/03 1:43 PM, Rita Denton at rjdenton@adelphia.net wrote: > Many German-language church records have been published for the German > Lutheran and Reformed congregations of the Old Pine Church at Mill Creek > and the Zion-Pine Church at Stony Creek (ed. Klaus Wust). But the records > in his books stop at 1827-28, when the church began using the English > language. Would anyone know if any of the English-language records from > Zion-Pine have been published? > > A researcher by the name of Harry Long found some Lindamood baptismal > records for me from 1829-31 from "Zion Lutheran at Swover Creek" (Shen. > Co.). He said they had been transcribed onto some kind of ancient floppy > disc, and I don't know where they or the original entries would be > available. Is there a Lutheran archives in the area that might house these > records? > > Specific names and dates I'm looking for are: > Baptism for > Frances/Fanny Ruble, ca 1806. > Marriage for Abraham Lindamood & Fanny Ruble, > 10 Feb 1829 (looking for her parents, they're not mentioned on the marriage > bond). > Baptism for Edmond Lindamood, ca Oct. 1835. > > Thanks, > Rita > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

Many German-language church records have been published for the German Lutheran and Reformed congregations of the Old Pine Church at Mill Creek and the Zion-Pine Church at Stony Creek (ed. Klaus Wust). But the records in his books stop at 1827-28, when the church began using the English language. Would anyone know if any of the English-language records from Zion-Pine have been published? A researcher by the name of Harry Long found some Lindamood baptismal records for me from 1829-31 from "Zion Lutheran at Swover Creek" (Shen. Co.). He said they had been transcribed onto some kind of ancient floppy disc, and I don't know where they or the original entries would be available. Is there a Lutheran archives in the area that might house these records? Specific names and dates I'm looking for are: Baptism for Frances/Fanny Ruble, ca 1806. Marriage for Abraham Lindamood & Fanny Ruble, 10 Feb 1829 (looking for her parents, they're not mentioned on the marriage bond). Baptism for Edmond Lindamood, ca Oct. 1835. Thanks, Rita

There were a lot of Harpines in Shenenandoah County connected to the Lindamood family. J. William Harpine put out a book on the Lindamoods/Harpines in the 1960s (?). I checked the index for your Harpines, but didn't find the names you mention. Rita At 07:47 AM 2/6/03 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > >I was born a Harpine and live in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia. I know that my father and his parents came from the Cincinnati, OH area. Oddly enough my grandmother on my dad's (Harpine) side has her parents coming from the Middleway, VA area. > >My father was Franklin Harpine (no middle initial). His mother's name was Maude E. Hensell (Harpine). His father's name was Franklin J. Harpine and was quite a bit older than she was. > >If anyone has any info on this set of Harpine's I would really like to know more. > >Thank you, >Sharon Harpine Renaldo > > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

>Other than the parents names, is there any information in the SSDI record on >the parents such as place of birth? The SSDI is just an index of names of deceased, year of birth, location and date of death and the SS number. The actual SS application contains the applicant's name, age, sex, race, date of birth, place of birth, current address, current employer, parent's names (including mother's maiden name) and the applicant's signature. The parent's place of birth is not noted - at least not in any of the applications I've received. I've found the SS application helpful in cases where the parents, or the mother's maiden name are not listed on the death record. Sometimes the informant for the death record is not familiar with the deceased family history. If a grandchild, niece, nephew, neighbor or even a nurse is the informant, they may not have any of this information. The SS application is filled out by the applicant, so the information is usually more reliable and accurate.

Other than the parents names, is there any information in the SSDI record on the parents such as place of birth? -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Davis [mailto:msealock32@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:00 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Indiana Research and VA I just hope they do not get the idea to take the SSDI off the internet. Of course anyone listed on this list has passed away. But if you order the SS5 (social security application) you can get valuable information pertaining to the parents, date of birth etc. They made it harder to receive this application by raising the price from $7.00 to $27.00, but if you are convinced the person listed is a relative the price is small for the information gleaned. We will just to make an effort to share with each other more. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Indiana Research and VA > Hello Alley and researchers, > > > The only thing which might save us if/when the states pull the records, is > that a lot of the information is out there, on cd, and in books etc. > > Joyce in CA > http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

You might want to check into Frederick Co., VA records to Bruce C Young III

Hello, I was born a Harpine and live in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia. I know that my father and his parents came from the Cincinnati, OH area. Oddly enough my grandmother on my dad's (Harpine) side has her parents coming from the Middleway, VA area. My father was Franklin Harpine (no middle initial). His mother's name was Maude E. Hensell (Harpine). His father's name was Franklin J. Harpine and was quite a bit older than she was. If anyone has any info on this set of Harpine's I would really like to know more. Thank you, Sharon Harpine Renaldo

Dear Joyce and other Researchers, Thank you so much for looking up the marriage of Henry Huffman and Barbara. Henry did marry a second time, but in Wythe County, VA on 13 May 1830 to Elizabeth Wiseley. The date of his first marriage ca 1793 is approximate as is the date of birth as 1795 for their first child, Jacob. Their second child, John, was born 5 Mar. 1797 and is my g.g.g. grandfather. They then had Catherine "Caty", Barbara, George, Henry, Yost, Elizabeth and Mary "Polly". Carla Kettell of Calif.

I just hope they do not get the idea to take the SSDI off the internet. Of course anyone listed on this list has passed away. But if you order the SS5 (social security application) you can get valuable information pertaining to the parents, date of birth etc. They made it harder to receive this application by raising the price from $7.00 to $27.00, but if you are convinced the person listed is a relative the price is small for the information gleaned. We will just to make an effort to share with each other more. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Indiana Research and VA > Hello Alley and researchers, > > > The only thing which might save us if/when the states pull the records, is > that a lot of the information is out there, on cd, and in books etc. > > Joyce in CA > http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >

Hi Carla, and Researchers, I checked the Shenandoah Marriages for Henry Huffman who married a Barbara. I did not find a marriage for them in that county. However; I did find a Henry Huffman who married Cathrine Dillinger, Aug. 25, 1831, in Shenandoah Co. VA. Could this be a later marriage for Henry? I also found Henry Huffman who married BARBARA Hecken Feb. 3, 1789 in Berkeley Co. VA Hope this is of some help to someone. I will take a look for more info when I get a chance. :-) Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 2/3/2003 3:52:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, Cjkettell@aol.com writes: > Dear Joyce, > > Could you look up in your records and see if there is a Henry Huffman b: ca > > 1769/70 who married ca 1793/94 to a Barbara _____? I would appreciate it > so > much. I am trying to find the marriage and who their parents were. Thank > you so much. > > Carla Kettell of Calif. > cjkettell@aol.com > > >

In my quest for Riffey information I found a will in the VA archives (Prince William Co) with the spelling of Rifey. However when I received the film, the name appeared to be Rixey. I know that there were some Rixeys in Culpeper and Shenandoah Co.'s. in the 1700's but my question is: is anyone aware of how the "f" was written in that time period? A name change in the spelling? Larry Riffey Plano, TX

Hello Alley and researchers, The only thing which might save us if/when the states pull the records, is that a lot of the information is out there, on cd, and in books etc. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

I just found this bill was passed by the House on Jan 31 but we're okay. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?031+ful+HB2426EH1 [ D. This section shall not apply to posting historical, genealogical, interpretive, or educational documents and information about historic persons and events. ]

This is happening all over. If these bills pass, we're going to have a difficult, if not impossible, task of getting records on our ancestors. Some of these bills do not even mention a period of time (75 years, 100 years) and provide a blanket coverage. Therefore, if you're seeking the birth or death record of your ancestor, you may not be able to get either once the bill is passed. Already, in Ohio, a researcher was told at a courthouse in Ohio that she'd better get all she wants NOW, before the bill is passed. Alley ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Indiana Research Hi This topic came up on the list recently. Thought this might interest some of you. The responder of this message, is a member of the same genealogical society that I am, the Roseville (CA) Genealogical Society. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop For those of you who do Indiana research this is important information. It seems no state is safe from the threat of record closure and severe restrictions to the access of records. The following message came through the APG list and I have also received an email from the Indiana Genealogical Society. California is not the only state to suffer a threat to the access of our records. For more information check out the IGS website at www.indgensoc.org . Click on the first item under News on the left side. I know I will be up early making some phone calls! Pamela Dallas Dear Roots Member, Indiana's legislature will meet at 10:30 am on Wednesday, February 5th to discuss House Bill 1540 which would go into effect on July 1st. If passed, the bill could deny genealogists access to Indiana vital records. Access to vital records less than 100 years old would be restricted to the person named on the record or their immediate relative. The bill is sponsored by Peggy Welch of Bloomington and has the support of the Indiana State Registrar's Association. Currently access is limited to vital records less 72 years old. The Indiana Genealogical Society is alarmed by this bill and passed a resolution at their meeting on February 1st to send to the legislature. We are urging any and all genealogists concerned with keeping public records open to contact the members of the House's Committee on Public Health and tell them to vote NO on HB 1540. In passing this resolution, the Indiana Genealogical Society is mounting a letter writing, emailing, phone calling campaign to these legislators. I hope that this issue be voted down. It is important that the genealogical, and family historian community be heard. I have a letter already written to the office of Rep Peggy Welch concerning this matter. Thank you for your support. Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!"

Hi This topic came up on the list recently. Thought this might interest some of you. The responder of this message, is a member of the same genealogical society that I am, the Roseville (CA) Genealogical Society. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop For those of you who do Indiana research this is important information. It seems no state is safe from the threat of record closure and severe restrictions to the access of records.  The following message came through the APG list and I have also received an email from the Indiana Genealogical Society. California is not the only state to suffer a threat to the access of our records. For more information check out the IGS website at www.indgensoc.org . Click on the first item under News on the left side. I know I will be up early making some phone calls! Pamela Dallas Dear Roots Member, Indiana's legislature will meet at 10:30 am on Wednesday, February 5th to discuss House Bill 1540 which would go into effect on July 1st. If passed, the bill could deny genealogists access to Indiana vital records. Access to vital records less than 100 years old would be restricted to the person named on the record or their immediate relative. The bill is sponsored by Peggy Welch of Bloomington and has the support of the Indiana State Registrar's Association.  Currently access is limited to vital records less 72 years old. The Indiana Genealogical Society is alarmed by this bill and passed a resolution at their meeting on February 1st to send to the legislature. We are urging any and all genealogists concerned with keeping public records open to contact the members of the House's Committee on Public Health and tell them to vote NO on HB 1540. In passing this resolution, the Indiana Genealogical Society is mounting a letter writing, emailing, phone calling campaign to these legislators.  I hope that this issue be voted down.  It is important that the genealogical, and family historian community be heard. I have a letter already written to the office of Rep Peggy Welch concerning this matter. Thank you for your support. Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Hi Joyce, As far as I know, all of my Gordon's were in Shenandoah, Warren, and Page Counties in Va. Thank you for the Gordon and Aleshire look-ups. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Re:Gordon in Shenandoah Co. VA Hi Judy and researchers, Here are Gordon and related marriages in Shenandoah Co. VA You don't by any chance have any Gordons in Prince George Co. VA, who may have gone west to Oregon? Joyce in CA <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop">http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop </A>