Glenn, The location for the Miley/Layman cemetery is Saumsville. I don't have any other directions for it. Mary Randall Message text written by INTERNET:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Mary Where is the Miley/Layman cemetery located? Glenn Cline<

We currently have online the 1789 & 1799 Shenandoah Personal Property A & B Tax Lists (4 tax lists in all) for anyone to use. These are the actual images from the microfilm. These tax lists have been indexed. The names in the index are linked to the page of the tax list that the name appears on. Go to: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm and scroll down to Shenandoah County in the County Tax List Table and click on the county link. This takes you to the county page where you can access the individual indexes and images. Steve and Bunny Steve and Bunny "1790" / "1800" County Tax Lists of Virginia Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Virginia Censuses http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Kittle" <diane.kittle@voyager.net> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:45 AM Subject: RE: [VASHENAN] Tax List > Are the Shenandoah Co. Personal Property Tax Records on-line anywhere at > this point? I would like to conduct the same type of search on Henry's in > Shenandoah Co. from 1785 - 1810. >

Glen, These Mileys are my kin. The 3 infant daughters of GW and Tirzah Miley were later moved to the Massanutten Cemetery in Woodstock At 10:20 PM 2/26/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Listers >Is there anyone out there who can tell me if there is any record of graves >and/or names of people buried in the Layman Family Cemetery which is about >one mile west of Saumsville, Va? > >Glenn Cline > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

I am interested in finding the location of my ancestor's, Nicholas DRUCK, farm. He bought the land (70 acres) in 1793 from Anthony & Clara RODENHEIFFER. It mentions "the drains of Stony Creek" "Cats Hollow" and "May's Run". In 1813 they added 118 acres from John & Barbara MILLER, 1/10 of land of David RODENHEIFFER. After Nicholas and his wife Susannah died the farm (the 70 acres) was owned (1848) by their daughter Rebecca and Emmanual RINEHART. I am guessing that the other acres (118) went to their oldest son George DRUCK. I think (not positive) that in 1851 the RINEHARTS sold the 70 acres to Benjamin & Lucy IRWIN. Can anyone give me any clues to the location of this land? Thanks, Carole Trook-Hacker

Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene Speakman Love have published "The Personal Property Tax Lists for the Year 1787 for Shenandoah County, Virginia." The publisher shown is Genealogical Books in Print, Springfield in Print, Springfield, Va. I do not know if this book is in print or if the publisher is still in business. Perhaps someone will let us know. The 1787 Shenandoah County Personal Property Tax Lists are important in it was the only year in which local tax commissioners were required by law to call on each person at that person's residence. Before this (and also afterwards, I think) the people took their lists to the commissioner. JB

Are the Shenandoah Co. Personal Property Tax Records on-line anywhere at this point? I would like to conduct the same type of search on Henry's in Shenandoah Co. from 1785 - 1810. -----Original Message----- From: GCline8181@aol.com [mailto:GCline8181@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:53 AM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Tax List Eugene I can answer part of your question. I know nothing about a collection of tax papers in Richmond. I am the person who prepared the Tax Records- Cline 1782-1820. The data that is embodied in the report that is posted in the Shenandoah County Website was taken from microfilm rolls that I got from the Morman Church records titled "Personal Property Tax Records." My quest was to list every person named Cline/Kline who lived in Shenandoah County during the years 1782 and 1820. In doing so, I garnered a large amount of information on my family. One important part of those early records that is not well known, except for those who have studied them, is that in the years between 1786 and 1796 the tax rolls listed not only the head of household but also listed by name all other white souls living in that household. Its too bad that this practice was discontinued in 1796, since it was an invaluable source of genealogical records not found elswhere. From this tax study I was able to connect my ancestor John Cline with Michael Cline and through the data involved in this tax study I was able to make a positive connection between Michael and his son George Cline through the tax records in the years 1817 and 1818. Then by tracing descendants of this line and having DNA tests done I was able to establish that John Cline and Michael Cline were brothers. This all came about by hours spent these two microfilm rolls from the Morman Church. I hope this explanation of my part in a study of tax records is of help to you. Glenn Cline ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Hello Glenn, In my preparation of the cemetery lists for the web site a few years ago, I ran into som alternate names of various cemeteries. One of those cemeteries with such a name was Clover Hill Cemetery in the Saumsville Area. The alternate name? Miley Layman Cemetery. The list can be found at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/cem/mlayman.html>. In fact, the first name I found for this cemetery was "Miley Layman", but later on I found that the more common name was Clover Hill. Just had to dig around a bit to find that! Don Don Silvius Co-coordinator Shenandoah County VAGenWeb Project <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> <dsilvius@intrepid.net>

The Virginia State Library in Richmond, Virginia has the "Personal Tax Papers" on microfilm. Robert

Are these tax records for each county located at LVA in Richmond?

Personal Property Tax Records.. 1786-1796 As Glenn found in Shenandoah, I had a similar experience in Fauquier Co. I found a brother in the household of my Kimble Hicks in Fauquier. This has led me to another search for heirs of that bro., Thomas Hicks, in nearby counties. (Hardly begun) It certainly gave me information I didn't have before. Shirley S.

Eugene I can answer part of your question. I know nothing about a collection of tax papers in Richmond. I am the person who prepared the Tax Records- Cline 1782-1820. The data that is embodied in the report that is posted in the Shenandoah County Website was taken from microfilm rolls that I got from the Morman Church records titled "Personal Property Tax Records." My quest was to list every person named Cline/Kline who lived in Shenandoah County during the years 1782 and 1820. In doing so, I garnered a large amount of information on my family. One important part of those early records that is not well known, except for those who have studied them, is that in the years between 1786 and 1796 the tax rolls listed not only the head of household but also listed by name all other white souls living in that household. Its too bad that this practice was discontinued in 1796, since it was an invaluable source of genealogical records not found elswhere. From this tax study I was able to connect my ancestor John Cline with Michael Cline and through the data involved in this tax study I was able to make a positive connection between Michael and his son George Cline through the tax records in the years 1817 and 1818. Then by tracing descendants of this line and having DNA tests done I was able to establish that John Cline and Michael Cline were brothers. This all came about by hours spent these two microfilm rolls from the Morman Church. I hope this explanation of my part in a study of tax records is of help to you. Glenn Cline

In the Virginia State Library in Richmond, Virginia one will find "Personal Tax Papers" - hand written - for Shenandoah County, Virginia for the years 1782 thru 1793. The explanation of same is that any male over 21 years was required to pay a "poll tithable tax" and a tax on his cattle and horses. If the man had a son, that son had to be paid for also upon reaching age 16. The father would pay the sons tax until the son reached 21 years of age and then he (the son) would pay his own tax. Way back yonder in the early 1970's when I first started looking into family background I saw these TAX PAPERS in Richmond. I see that the 1783 County wide list is available - also the Cline and Job families - on the Shenandoah Web site. My question - are these records available either in the Net or on microfilm. Thanks.......Eugene

At 28-02-03 22:11, you wrote: >I see that the >1783 County wide list is available - also the Cline and Job families - >on the Shenandoah Web site. > >My question - are these records available either in the Net or on >microfilm. Thanks.......Eugene Eugene, I have a set on permanent loan at the Family History Center near my home. The Mormons copied them on microfilm. I have 1783-1829. I believe there is another film for later years, but my family left Shenandoah County by then. I use them as a base line to see who was there at different times. Nancy Santa Fe, NM >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Mary Where is the Miley/Layman cemetery located? Glenn Cline

Glenn, I have some names listed for the Miley/Layman Cemetery. What names are you looking for? Mary Randall Message text written by INTERNET:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Hi Listers Is there anyone out there who can tell me if there is any record of graves and/or names of people buried in the Layman Family Cemetery which is about one mile west of Saumsville, Va? Glenn Cline<

In the Shenandoah Co Va. Personal Property Tax List: **Moses Henry in the "Fork" Apr 1787 & 1788 **George Henry Jun 21 1800, Mar 11 1801, Mar 20 1802, May 3 1804. **Enoch Henry Apr 19 1800, Mar 21 1801, May 23 1805 I'm guessing that the "Fork" refers to a fork in a river or creek but not sure. Does anyone know what place the "Fork" is in reference to and if so what township this would have been in? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks.

Forwarded to me from the Virginia State Coordinator for the GenWeb project. Please be aware of this scam! --------------------------------------------------------- Hi Everyone: The old genealogy scam is back. www.genseekers.com Behind the password protection are links to the free genealogy on-line. There is no content of their own. In order to get the "5-day free trial" you have to surrender a credit card or bank account number. You have to cancel within 5 days or you get dinged. Guess what? The cancellation e-mail bounces. Does this surprise you? One person who recently fell for the come-on had his/her account dinged not once, but twice. It is time to remind folks on your state and county mailing lists about these scoundrels. It has been a couple of years since we have mentioned this. Permission is granted to pass this on. Don Silvius Database Production Administrator The Library Corporation <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> <http://www.tlcdelivers.com>

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Hello Don, Do you know if Judy's book "Someone You Knew" is available now? I have gotten a lot of family info from it at the Winchester Library and I would like very much to purchase one now. Izetta Barbour "With roots from Shenandoah County" ----- Original Message ----- From: <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:25 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Shenandoah Heritage Day note > Hello all, > > For those who plan to attend Shenandoah County Heritage Day on > April 12, Judy Stickley will have copies of "Someone You Knew" > available that day. > > If you are not familiar with Judy's books, they contain thousands > and thousands of obituaries from the years 1869 - 1989. If you > have a lot of ancestors in Shenandoah County, these books are > invaluable. My copies never are on the bookshelf because I use > them so much. > > More information can be found at > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/genbook.html> - right at the > top of the page, but be sure to scroll down and see what other > excellent books are available for Shenandoah County researchers. > > Don > > > *************************************************** > Don Silvius > Coordinator > Shenandoah County VAGenWeb > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> > <dsilvius@intrepid.net> > <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> > *************************************************** > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/03

Hi Listers Is there anyone out there who can tell me if there is any record of graves and/or names of people buried in the Layman Family Cemetery which is about one mile west of Saumsville, Va? Glenn Cline