<<You might check the RootsWeb WorldConnect site for Adam Richart. There's a posting for Adam Richart/Rickert (b. abt. 1765 in North Hampton, Pennsylvania, d. abt 1837 in Letart, WVA) :>> Thanks Vicki, but that's MY posting! If you read all the notes, you will see what I have and what I do not. His birth in "perhaps Northampton" is speculation. There is a story about Adam that connects him to Northampton Co, with a line of ancestors having migrated from Schohalie, NY and Germany. However, I think it's just wishful thinking, which I'm trying to clear up by establishing a preceding family in Shenandoah. Tom

Tom, You might check the RootsWeb WorldConnect site for Adam Richart. There's a posting for Adam Richart/Rickert (b. abt. 1765 in North Hampton, Pennsylvania, d. abt 1837 in Letart, WVA) wife's name Elizabeth. The daughter of this couple, Elizabeth Rickard, married Anthony Roush (b. 23 Jan 1792 Shenandoah Co., Va) Elizabeth Rickard Roush was buried Rickard Cemetery, Mason Co., WVA. I found other children for this couple listed on other websites. You might be able to obtain more information from the individual who posted the information: Vicki Ewy <davic@lvcm.com> Another effective search strategy that might help you is to go to Google.com and do an advanced search. >From the main Google page click on "advanced search" Enter your information in the fields as follows: "with all of the words" ENTER : Adam genealogy "with at least one of the words" ENTER: Rickard Richart Rickert Richerd Reichart [or any other spellings you've discovered] Click on "Google Search". This will bring up 2,320 hits that include websites that mention Adam R.... and genealogy. If you leave the search term "genealogy" out of the first field it will bring up 34,300 hits...you choose. This strategy will likely give you still more alternate spellings, as some immigrant named Reigart will have had a descendant mentioned who spelled the name Rickert, thus causing your search to pick Reigart's page up, too. Note: Add the phrase "Mason Co." or "Mason County" in the field for "with the exact phrase" and you'll cut the hits down to only 37-38, but they'll be more likely to be the people for whom you're searching. This will also give you 30+ people to contact who are doing research on your family line. Using the advanced search will allow you to expand or restrict your searching. Give it a try. Good luck. Sherry Johnson ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:37:05 -0400 From: Tom Pierce To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Richart/Rickard Tom wrote: > Hello List: > > Does anybody know anything about the Richarts of Shenandoah? I'm following Adam Richart/Rickard out of Shenandoah to Mason County around 1800, where his family was then connected to the Roush and Zirkle families. Knowing that those latter 2 were from Shenandoah, I'm trying to determine if they were acquainted with the Richarts prior to moving west. > > The name is also known as Rickart, Rickert, and Reichart. > > I believe Adam was migrating from PA, and perhaps just passing through Shenandoah, staying for a relatively few years. His first wife, Elizabeth, died there in 1797, near New Market (so the story goes). He then married Catherine. Some sons were Jacob, Michael, John, Joseph and George. > > I've seen a Jacob Rickard in the 1820 Shenandoah census, and I suspect he might have been related, but I can't find the root family. > > There was a Richart/Reichart family in the Germanna settlement, but I can't trace them forward. > > Any help or even speculation would be greatly appreciated. > > Tom --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Ozzie, Sorry, it appears your John Robinson is abt. one generation before my current info. I believe I am connected to John Thomas Robinson, b. abt 1780, the father of my ggg-father, Richard J. Robinson, b. abt. 1812. Richards siblings appear to be as listed: Beverly W., Arthur, Samuel, William, Joseph Lewis, John and would have been born abt. early 1800s. I guess John Thomas' father was also a John Robinson born abt. 1738, married a Miss Page, then Miss Lucy Smith (m. 1757). This John would be abt. 10 years off from your John, also with a different wife. I guess your John could be a brother or cousin to William Robinson, b. 1709, Middlesex Co., VA. Unfortunately, I have not acquired the book, This Robinson Line, that I referenced to you. This was provided by another lister and I have not been able to locate it yet. It relates the relations of Christopher Robinson of "Hewick", in the area of Middlesex Co, VA. so if your Robinson line is found here there may be a relation. Beverly W. is not dirrectly in my line, being a sibling to Richard J., my ggg-father. I just assumed this was a sister, but perhaps it is a brother. Would appreciate any info you have on this individual or others listed in your book. Beverly, Richard and siblings and father John Thomas are found in Hampshire Co., VA 1840 census. Households of Richard J. (misprint Robert J.) and Joseph Lewis (w/ father John Thomas) are found in 1850 census for Harrison Co., VA. Not sure if Beverly also migrated with them or remained in Hampshire? Don't know if I sent you the following before from 1850 Harrison Co. ceunsus: 21st district, enumerated 29 July 1850 Ancestry Image 272 Roll M432_950, Page 135 Robert J. Robinson 36 PA Wagonmaker Nancy 28 PA Theopilus 11 PA John 9 PA Frances 3 PA (The image clearly shows "Robert", not "Richard") 22nd District, enumerated 17 August 1850 Ancestry Image 438 Roll M432_950, Page 218 Joseph Robinson 26 VA Shoemaker John T. 61 MD Elizabeth 55 VA Harriet 27 VA Elizabeth 10 VA Mary 8 VA Richard J. and family reportedly moved to Noble Co. Ohio (bordering Guernsey Co., OH) abt. 1854. Joseph L. also reported in one history source to have moved here, but not sure of date. He may have stayed in Harrison Co., VA for a while as his wife passed away in Harrison in 1864 and there one son appears to have stayed in this area: John Lewis, son of John Thomas Robinson, was born in Frederick county, Virginia, 1827. He came to Harrison county in 1849. He was a shoemaker and merchant, sometime associated with E. W. Tinsman as Tinsman & Robinson, and for many years conducted the principal shoe store in Clarksburg. He married Mary E. Waters, born February 25, 1829, in Montgomery county, Maryland. One child by this union, Paul Monroe; the mother died May 12, 1864. Of the parentage of Mary E. (Waters) Robinson it may be said that she was the daughter of Edward B. and Lucretia (Gardner) Waters. The Waters family is numerous and has been of some prominence in Ferderick and Montgomery counties, Maryland, since the formation of the counties. The parents of Mary E. Waters both died when she was a child and she was reared by her uncle, James Waters, of Frederick county, Maryland. [p 576] Source: Genealogical and Personal History of the UPPER MONOGAHELA VALLEY West Virginia by James Morton Callahan, 1912 >From "HARRISON COUNTY, WEST VIRGINIA, DEATH RECORDS 1853-1903": (1864) ROBINSON, Mary E 33y b MD d/o E & E WATTERS; wf/o J L d 12 May Okay, guess this may be more info than you expected, but hope it will help connect with your family or another Lister out there. Thanks, Chris _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I think I got in the middle of a conversation but I have Elizabeth Miller born about 1835, parents Joseph and Nancy Miller married Adolphus Smith 10/19/1858 all in Shenandoah Co. Could this be the same family? If so I'd love to hear from who ever is related. Adolphus is my g-grandfathers older brother. Thanks, Debbie Dietz ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] 1786-1792 CLAYTON & PRICE & WILLIAMs > MILLER, WILLIAM, 28 years of age, single, born & living in Shenandoah Co., > VA, Farmer, parents Joseph & Nancy Miller, married on 28 Nov 1865 to Frances E. > BLY, 19 years of age, single, born & living in Shenandoah Co., VA parents Levi > & France Bly, married by John Pirkey, Page 42, Line 100. > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

<<Adam may be the son of Dr. Benjamin and Margaret Rickard who were in Rockingham Co., VA. An Adam Rickard b. abt 1793 and Catherine Kibler b. abt 1796 married 03 June 1813 in Shenandoah Co., VA. She (Kathrine Richard) also married Larkin Skelton 26 May 1830 in Shenandoah Co., VA. She is said to have died in 1880 in Page Co., VA.>> Hi Shirley: Yes, I saw that information, but my Adam was born about 1760. However, the similar names and locale might indicate a connection. Thanks for reminding me about Dr. Benjamin and Adam/Kibler. Tom

Adam may be the son of Dr. Benjamin and Margaret Rickard who were in Rockingham Co., VA. An Adam Rickard b. abt 1793 and Catherine Kibler b. abt 1796 married 03 June 1813 in Shenandoah Co., VA. She (Kathrine Richard) also married Larkin Skelton 26 May 1830 in Shenandoah Co., VA. She is said to have died in 1880 in Page Co., VA. Adam's sister, Dorthea/Dorothy Rickard b. 1792 in Rockingham Co., VA married Martin Kibler 04 April 1817 in Shenandoah Co., VA (his second wife). The Martin Kiblers lived in what is now Page Co., VA, formed in 1833 from Shenandoah Co. Adam's sister, Elizabeth b. abt 1805 m.1 to John Hockman and m.2 to David Kibler. Try writing to Catherine Robinson who posted some of this information on Ancestry. CatherineGilmore@cs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <tomchapman@adelphia.net> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Richart/Rickard > Hello List: > > Does anybody know anything about the Richarts of Shenandoah? I'm following Adam Richart/Rickard out of Shenandoah to Mason County around 1800, where his family was then connected to the Roush and Zirkle families. Knowing that those latter 2 were from Shenandoah, I'm trying to determine if they were acquainted with the Richarts prior to moving west. > > The name is also known as Rickart, Rickert, and Reichart. > > I believe Adam was migrating from PA, and perhaps just passing through Shenandoah, staying for a relatively few years. His first wife, Elizabeth, died there in 1797, near New Market (so the story goes). He then married Catherine. Some sons were Jacob, Michael, John, Joseph and George. > > I've seen a Jacob Rickard in the 1820 Shenandoah census, and I suspect he might have been related, but I can't find the root family. > > There was a Richart/Reichart family in the Germanna settlement, but I can't trace them forward. > > Any help or even speculation would be greatly appreciated. > > Tom > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >

Kathy, Thank you for the quick response. I don't have the book, in fact know it only from a citation? Do you know Ruth Walton? She did quite a bit of work in Jay County. Tom KATNKEV5458@aol.com wrote: > Tom, > > Question 1: > > Subj: Fw: James McCarty > Date: 10/1/01 7:26:04 AM Central Daylight Time > From: hl@corlink.com (Harry Long) > To: KATNKEV5458@aol.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harry Long > To: KATNKEV5458@aol.comc > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:03 AM > Subject: James McCarty > > Thanks for your inquiry regarding the land of James McCarty and the > information you sent on the McCarty Family. You are correct in assuming he lived next > to George Adam Zirkle. George Adam Zirkle's 1,071 acre plantation, located west > of New Market on the west side of the North Fork of the Shenandoah River, was > composed of three tracts of land - 502 acres purchased from Robert O'Neal, on > 25 Apr 1762; 260 acres purchased from Philip Casner, on 24 Oct 1787 and a 309 > acre grant from Thomas Lord Fairfax dated 23 Jul 1787. > > On 14 Aug 1777, as recorded in Shenandoah County Deed Book D, page 74; James > McCarty for the sum of 20 pounds purchased from John Alderson and Mary his > wife 120 acres of land located along the west side of the North Fork of the > Shenandoah River and joining to the south with the 260 acre and the 309 acre tracts > which were acquired by George Adam Zirkle. > > During his lifetime, and after Jonas McCarty had married his daughter, > Catharine Zirkle, George Adam Zirkle gave to his daughter Catharine and her husband > Jonas, 60 acres of land adjoining the south side of the 120 acres of land > owned by James McCarty, the father of Jonas McCarty. > > On 11 Dec 1797, Jonas McCarty and Catharine his wife and Sarah mother of said > Jonas McCarty sold to George Huber the 120 acres of land formerly owned by > James McCarty deceased and the adjoining 60 acres of land which had been given > to Jonas by his father-in-law, George Adam Zirkle. It is assumed that in the > spring of 1797 that Jonas, his wife and children and his mother Sarah joined > one of the many wagon trains leaving the Shenandoah Valley to start out anew in > the western lands. > > By Marriage Bond issued 29 Dec 1787, Jonas McCarty was married to Catharine > Zirkle, on 1 Jan 1788, by the Reverend Anderson Moffett.Date of marriage is > from Shenandoah County Ministers Returns. Although the father George Adam Zirkle > was a founder of the jointly owned Reformed and Lutheran Church here at New > Market no evidence can be found where Jonas and Catharine had any of their > children baptized. > > Harry E. Long > Box 985 > New Market, Virginia 22844 > hl@corlink.com > > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > > Hardesty's History: > > Among the early settlers of the township were Abraham Darst, who came in > 1794, Samuel Wise, John Coughenour and George W. Putnam, about 1795, Adam Roush > and George Swisher, 1797, Joseph Rife, fall of 1800, Phineas Mathews, Joseph > Mauck, Samuel R. Holcomb and Jacob Rothgeb in 1811. About the year 1794 a > settlement was made upon the bank of the Ohio river, near the present village of > Cheshire, land having been purchased of the Ohio Company's agent, P. Mathews. > Three cabins were built about the same time by Paul and Abraham Darst, Adam Roush > and Edward McMullen. Jonas McCarty, Christian Coughenour, Samuel Wise, the Van > Zant and Reynolds families, Peter Knopp, Jacob Halfhill, Joseph Bradbury, > Sabret Scott and Jeremiah Hacket also settled here at a very early date. > > **************************************************************** > > Question 2: > > I dont know if they stopped along the way. I know that some McCarty's later > were in WV. > > **************************************************************** > > Question 3: > > I have never seen Lewis "History of Jay County, IN" > Do you have that actual text electronically captured? > That would be really cool, because my Moses M. McCarty and his sister Esther > Jane McCarty went to Jay County, IN along with William Darst and his wife > Barbara Halfhill Darst. > > I have never seen any hard documentation to prove Mary McCarty's marriage to > Abraham Darst. > Although many researchers say this is so. > > Kathy "Kath" (Burden) Shaffer > Omaha, NE > > Jesus is my Strength > > >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< > > > In a message dated 7/6/03 8:48:02 PM Central Daylight Time, > tvpierce@infionline.net writes: > > > Kathy, > > Can you shed any light on three questions: > > 1. When did the McCarty's leave Shenandoah County on their way to Gallia > > County? > > 2. How did they go, i.e., did they stop along the way? > > 3. Lewis in History of Jay County, Indiana, says Mary McCarty married > > Abraham Darst > > (Paul's brother). Do you have any info that might bear on that? > > > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Tom, Please include this as only speculation. In the 1793 personal property tax list for the big valley of Shenandoah County, there was a listing for Adam R***art, where the * is a letter too badly smeared to read. However, I believe I can identify the third * as either an "h" or a "k". This list is one where there is a strong possibility that people whose tax lists were received on the same day lived close to one another. On the same day as Adam R***art (April 18) were Jacob Roof, John Roush Senr, George Ruddell, Walter Newman, Mounce Bird, Daniel Brannerman (Jr and Sr), Rudolph Kagey, Daniel Kingary, Solomon Kingary, and many others. The ones I named are all names familiar within maybe five miles of New Market. You might try getting the microfilm for the lists from the LDS and taking a look at other years. 1793 is the only one I happen to be able to look at now. Those are good years because Tavener Beale took some of the lists and he was obsessively thorough. If you find your Adam after 1795, I think, please let me know and I can help locate him even better then as the lists for a few years were based on militia company areas. Please treat this as only a maybe. There are Adam Reinharts running around in Shenandoah County about that time. Tom Tom wrote: > Hello List: > > Does anybody know anything about the Richarts of Shenandoah? I'm following Adam Richart/Rickard out of Shenandoah to Mason County around 1800, where his family was then connected to the Roush and Zirkle families. Knowing that those latter 2 were from Shenandoah, I'm trying to determine if they were acquainted with the Richarts prior to moving west. > > The name is also known as Rickart, Rickert, and Reichart. > > I believe Adam was migrating from PA, and perhaps just passing through Shenandoah, staying for a relatively few years. His first wife, Elizabeth, died there in 1797, near New Market (so the story goes). He then married Catherine. Some sons were Jacob, Michael, John, Joseph and George. > > I've seen a Jacob Rickard in the 1820 Shenandoah census, and I suspect he might have been related, but I can't find the root family. > > There was a Richart/Reichart family in the Germanna settlement, but I can't trace them forward. > > Any help or even speculation would be greatly appreciated. > > Tom > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Tom, Question 1: Subj: Fw: James McCarty Date: 10/1/01 7:26:04 AM Central Daylight Time From: hl@corlink.com (Harry Long) To: KATNKEV5458@aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Long To: KATNKEV5458@aol.comc Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: James McCarty Thanks for your inquiry regarding the land of James McCarty and the information you sent on the McCarty Family. You are correct in assuming he lived next to George Adam Zirkle. George Adam Zirkle's 1,071 acre plantation, located west of New Market on the west side of the North Fork of the Shenandoah River, was composed of three tracts of land - 502 acres purchased from Robert O'Neal, on 25 Apr 1762; 260 acres purchased from Philip Casner, on 24 Oct 1787 and a 309 acre grant from Thomas Lord Fairfax dated 23 Jul 1787. On 14 Aug 1777, as recorded in Shenandoah County Deed Book D, page 74; James McCarty for the sum of 20 pounds purchased from John Alderson and Mary his wife 120 acres of land located along the west side of the North Fork of the Shenandoah River and joining to the south with the 260 acre and the 309 acre tracts which were acquired by George Adam Zirkle. During his lifetime, and after Jonas McCarty had married his daughter, Catharine Zirkle, George Adam Zirkle gave to his daughter Catharine and her husband Jonas, 60 acres of land adjoining the south side of the 120 acres of land owned by James McCarty, the father of Jonas McCarty. On 11 Dec 1797, Jonas McCarty and Catharine his wife and Sarah mother of said Jonas McCarty sold to George Huber the 120 acres of land formerly owned by James McCarty deceased and the adjoining 60 acres of land which had been given to Jonas by his father-in-law, George Adam Zirkle. It is assumed that in the spring of 1797 that Jonas, his wife and children and his mother Sarah joined one of the many wagon trains leaving the Shenandoah Valley to start out anew in the western lands. By Marriage Bond issued 29 Dec 1787, Jonas McCarty was married to Catharine Zirkle, on 1 Jan 1788, by the Reverend Anderson Moffett.Date of marriage is from Shenandoah County Ministers Returns. Although the father George Adam Zirkle was a founder of the jointly owned Reformed and Lutheran Church here at New Market no evidence can be found where Jonas and Catharine had any of their children baptized. Harry E. Long Box 985 New Market, Virginia 22844 hl@corlink.com &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Hardesty's History: Among the early settlers of the township were Abraham Darst, who came in 1794, Samuel Wise, John Coughenour and George W. Putnam, about 1795, Adam Roush and George Swisher, 1797, Joseph Rife, fall of 1800, Phineas Mathews, Joseph Mauck, Samuel R. Holcomb and Jacob Rothgeb in 1811. About the year 1794 a settlement was made upon the bank of the Ohio river, near the present village of Cheshire, land having been purchased of the Ohio Company's agent, P. Mathews. Three cabins were built about the same time by Paul and Abraham Darst, Adam Roush and Edward McMullen. Jonas McCarty, Christian Coughenour, Samuel Wise, the Van Zant and Reynolds families, Peter Knopp, Jacob Halfhill, Joseph Bradbury, Sabret Scott and Jeremiah Hacket also settled here at a very early date. **************************************************************** Question 2: I dont know if they stopped along the way. I know that some McCarty's later were in WV. **************************************************************** Question 3: I have never seen Lewis "History of Jay County, IN" Do you have that actual text electronically captured? That would be really cool, because my Moses M. McCarty and his sister Esther Jane McCarty went to Jay County, IN along with William Darst and his wife Barbara Halfhill Darst. I have never seen any hard documentation to prove Mary McCarty's marriage to Abraham Darst. Although many researchers say this is so. Kathy "Kath" (Burden) Shaffer Omaha, NE Jesus is my Strength >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< In a message dated 7/6/03 8:48:02 PM Central Daylight Time, tvpierce@infionline.net writes: > Kathy, > Can you shed any light on three questions: > 1. When did the McCarty's leave Shenandoah County on their way to Gallia > County? > 2. How did they go, i.e., did they stop along the way? > 3. Lewis in History of Jay County, Indiana, says Mary McCarty married > Abraham Darst > (Paul's brother). Do you have any info that might bear on that? > > Thanks, > Tom >

No you haven't tripped over your fingers and embarrassed yourself, {{{{{Shirley}}}}, and yes I would like the whole book typed up, please, in your spare time... <iii iiii> <----this is my just fallen off the turnip truck grin; [the {{{{...}}}}} is a cyber-hug.] I don't know what to ask first. As it is I get the Shenandoah posts in digest form, so my 'Eureka !!!' is doubly-delayed. I need to spend a good deal more time working out the data you already sent, but I wanted to rush off a Thankyou! If Sam (d. 1815 in Bedford) is indeed, the son of an Alvin & Sarah Rust Claytor with antecedents in Virginia, this has just got to be a parallel line perhaps with a common ancestor; my ggggggg-grampa Sam Clayton (christened 30 Sep 1689-died bef 16 Aug 1735) who m. Elizabeth PENDLETON lived near Tappahannock in Essex Co. - a hop-skip across the river from the first Thomas you list in Washington Parish, Westmoreland Co. Va. Would Sam's father Sam & Susannah (probably MORRIS) Clayton be their common ancestors? This Sam died abt 1702 & Susannah d. 6 Nov 1710 at the home of her daughter Mary, who had married Robert Coleman (1682-1748). One of the first surprises in your work was the GOFF surname which shows up in Crawford County, Illinois, where my CLAYTON branch settled before coming to Green County, Wisconsin and after a generation in Bourbon County, Kentucky. I don't know Shirley, I have collected a number of things that just don't fit in my direct CLAYTON line, but do seem to have some connection. Offhand, a "Coleman CLAYTON/CLAYTOR" or two, three? which may or may not be directly related as my Shenandoah County Saml Clayton, jr.'s brother was actually named Robert Coleman Clayton. I'm making myself dizzy.. Cynthia, in sweltering Wales, Wisconsin. >This is not my line. So, I may be tripping over my fingers and embarrass >myself. > >I have 2 pages of Claytors indexed in a family book.

Hello List: Does anybody know anything about the Richarts of Shenandoah? I'm following Adam Richart/Rickard out of Shenandoah to Mason County around 1800, where his family was then connected to the Roush and Zirkle families. Knowing that those latter 2 were from Shenandoah, I'm trying to determine if they were acquainted with the Richarts prior to moving west. The name is also known as Rickart, Rickert, and Reichart. I believe Adam was migrating from PA, and perhaps just passing through Shenandoah, staying for a relatively few years. His first wife, Elizabeth, died there in 1797, near New Market (so the story goes). He then married Catherine. Some sons were Jacob, Michael, John, Joseph and George. I've seen a Jacob Rickard in the 1820 Shenandoah census, and I suspect he might have been related, but I can't find the root family. There was a Richart/Reichart family in the Germanna settlement, but I can't trace them forward. Any help or even speculation would be greatly appreciated. Tom

Because of the Samuel Clayton grant was a VA grant, I wondered if there were Clayton RW Warrants used in KY and they might hold useful evidences. I have outlined the search I did. I then added some other land search helps. <A HREF="http://www.sos.state.ky.us/"> http://www.sos.state.ky.us/</A> Kentucky Land Office Searchable Databases and Related Articles> Virginia Revolutionary War Warrants Database> Revolutionary War Warrants Search Enter Veterans Name: Clayton The following list was seen. Warrant Veteran Assignee 3165.0 Clayton, Henry 1337.0 Clayton, Joseph 0794.0 Clayton, Philip Clicking on these takes one to information and an image of the original warrant. For all three there are "No [identified] patents in Kentucky" In KY the RW warrants were supposed to have been surveyed in an area known as "South of the Green River". This is explained on the website. The warrant, if awarded after the death of the veteran, usually has the heirship on the face of the warrant. If transferred for consideration, the assignee is stated. If the right to land was assigned in more than one tract and there were several assignees/transfers, this information might also be on the back of the warrant. This assigneeship/transfer of right could happen at the entry, and the survey and these are noted on the warrant or by separate papers. The warrant was to have been sent to the land office when the last survey of land allowed by the warrant was sent to the land office to be granted. ( I have seen one surveyor's note to the land office that the Warrant XXXX had been returned with a precious survey.) The assignee(s) noted are those who had, for consideration to the warrantee or former assignee, the right to the land on the warrant allowing them to proceed with the land acquisition process. A contract could be written to sell the land after the survey was sent to the Land office and before the grant has been received by the grantee. I have seen one of these in county court records. The search has just begun! Go to the Library of Virginia website <A HREF="http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/index.htm"> http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/mil/index.htm</A> Search each of the 3 RW databases. Note on the "cards" in the database when there are "images". In Revolutionary War Bounty Warrants: Philip Clayton (signature) served under Muhlenburg; Clayton gives an authorization to LT Charles Stickley.....Shenandoah Co surnames. In another BG James Wood certifies a Philip Clayton served and deserves additional land. The site stopped responding;, I do not know what the other names or RW databases might show. Now use the Land Office database at the Library of Virginia and search for every new surname and waterway and any other descriptive word that might have been on the original LVA index cards. You are looking for neighbors and friends and in-laws that you know. Watch for the Warrant # in the grants. Note the grantee(s) and date of grant. Now a trip/or search & copy request is in order to The Library of Virginia. In the Manuscript reading room request by grantee and date the files of the "Plats and Certificates" collection. If you want a copy of the back of a warrant used in KY, the KY Land Office website above gives information to order those copies. In the future images of these backs may be on the website. Enjoy the search. I have proven that an ancestor did not "touch" a tract that local family have believed he entered. I also have identified a grant for the only land a person later sold. When you can not find a grantor/seller buying the land. consider the following: 1. He acquired it by grant from the state, proprietor, the Crown. 2. He got it through probate. 2. The deed was not recorded; it may be in the "loose papers" at the court house. 3. The transfer was written on the warrant of the former owner's grant or deed. 4. The deed is recorded in the mother county. 5. The deed is recorded in the county to which the seller migrated. 6. Check all court levels in all counties the grantor and grantee lived. A few of these are private papers and not expected to be found in the public records. A deed is the property of the buyer/grantee. It was signed in person by all indicated in the recording. Watch the margin of the deed recording books for "examined & delivered". When this is usually there and one is missing it may indicate that original deed is in the loose papers at the courthouse. I trace a person who was a witness to a deed that was not "delivered". What a find to get another signature for him and in association with known family! A speaker one said that she had proven more connections by land than marriage. Enjoy the land search. Phyllis Vannoy Spiker

The suggestion to always include the tax commissioner's name is good; I have several times regretted that I had not done that. Only after repeated mistakes (I learn verrry slowly) did I catch on that different tax commissioners had pecularities that were important. One of them would write down every tithable male in the house, one collected lists on muster days, one collected on Sundays, one was quite forgetful and would skip people, and so on. I wish I had your good advice when starting out. Tom PSpiker27@aol.com wrote: > The headings for Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts 1790 Personal Property > Tax List (PPT) for Shenandoah Co. are from left to right across the columns: > > Dates of receiving from individuals > Persons named > No. White Tithables > No. Black Tithables Do. over 16 years > No. Blacks over 12 years & under 16 years > No. Horses Mares Colts & Mules > No. Studd Horses > Prices Covering at per season > > FYI 1790 is an Alpha list and neighbors may be determined by consulting the > complete list and sorting by date. Using a perpetual calendar, one can > determine the weekend days and other days when the Tax Collector may not have > "visited". > > According to Schreiner -Yantis, The 1787 Census of Virginia, page xiv > "Tithable - Subject or liable to payment of tithes; a person or thing that > is tithable. The age at which white males were tithable at the county level > was 16 years; at the state level, the age was 21 years. The county tax paid > for the political operation of the county and for the care of the poor; the > amount of tax varied from county to county and from year to year in the same > county as the method of arriving at the amount of tax was to add the year's > expenditures and divide this by the number of tithes. All paid the same amount for > the state tithe; in 1787 the amount was 10 shillings per tithe." > > Regarding the state taxes which were first collected for 1782 and included : > ibid. page xiii, "The tax on white males over 21 years and up was repealed > on the 12th of October 1787." > > >From 1782-1787 the list include white males 16-21. This column was not > required beginning with the 1788 list; However, many commissioners continued to > include this column. In later years these ages were again included for several > years. Carefully, read all the column headings for each year. > > Cautions when consulting these lists. > > 1. Usually the heading is only on the first page of each list; therefore, you > MUST make a copy of the first page. The headings do change from year to > year. > > 2. The only notation of the year may be in the heading on the first page. > Write the year on each page. > > 3. Cite the SPECIAL TAX COMMISSIONER'S NAME on each page copied. They > collected within a precinct/geographic boundary. > > 4. Don't forget to cite the COUNTY NAME. > > Note: Land taxes for VA are separate lists then & now! > > Phyllis Vannoy Spiker > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Kathy, Can you shed any light on three questions: 1. When did the McCarty's leave Shenandoah County on their way to Gallia County? 2. How did they go, i.e., did they stop along the way? 3. Lewis in History of Jay County, Indiana, says Mary McCarty married Abraham Darst (Paul's brother). Do you have any info that might bear on that? Thanks, Tom KATNKEV5458@aol.com wrote: > Hello All, > > IM back, LOL > > I am still trying to nail down the parents of my ancestor James McCarty. > > This is a 3 generation report, still a work in progress ;) > > First Generation > ---------------------------------------- > > 1. James McCARTY. James died abt 1789 in Shenandoah County, VA. > > James married Sarah. > > They had the following children: > i. Dianah. Born abt 1749. > > 2 ii. Mary (~1750-) > iii. Margaret. Born abt 1764. > > On 19 Apr 1784 when Margaret was 20, she married John TULLEY, in Shenandoah > County, VA. > > 3 iv. Jonas (1765-1849) > 4 v. Sarah (1766-) > vi. Hannah. > > vii. Elizabeth. > > > > Second Generation > ---------------------------------------- > > 2. Mary McCARTY. Born abt 1750. > > abt 1770 when Mary was 20, she married Abraham DARST, son of Abraham DARST & > Mary. > > They had the following children: > i. Daniel. > > Daniel married Jane BECK. > > ii. Jacob. > > Jacob married Elizabeth DARR. > > 5 iii. John > iv. David. > > David married Christina ROUSH. > > 6 v. Abraham > vi. Joseph. > > Joseph married Mary Eleanor SLAYTER, daughter of John SLAYTER & Susannah > HOOK. > > vii. Benjamin. > > Benjamin first married Nancy SCOTT. > > Benjamin second married Sarah SHULER. > > 3. Jonas McCARTY. Born in 1765 in Augusta County, VA. Jonas died in Cheshire > Twp., Gallia County, OH on 27 Oct 1849, he was 84. Buried in 1849 in McCarty > Cemetery, Gallia County, OH. > > On 27 Dec 1787 when Jonas was 22, he married Catherine Ann "Katie" ZIRKLE, > daughter of George Adam ZIRKLE & Elizabeth RIDENOUR, in Shenandoah county, VA. > Born in 1769 in Augusta County, VA. Catherine Ann "Katie" died in Cheshire > Twp., Gallia County, OH on 18 Feb 1854, she was 85. > > They had the following children: > 7 i. George Adam (1788-1877) > 8 ii. Jonas (1791-1851) > 9 iii. Mary (1795-1886) > 10 iv. John (ca1798-1825) > 11 v. Elizabeth (1800-1899) > 12 vi. Benjamin F. (1800-1887) > vii. James "Jim". Born on 19 Jan 1803 in Cheshire Twp. Gallia > County, OH. James "Jim" died on 18 Jul 1887, he was 84. Buried in 1887 in McCarty > Cemetery, Gallia County, OH. > > On 5 Apr 1827 when James "Jim" was 24, he married Caroline H KIRKPATRICK, in > Gallia county, OH. Born on 17 Jan 1810. Caroline H died on 23 Jul 1885, she > was 75. > > 13 viii. Rebecca (1805-) > 14 ix. Silas (~1810-) > 15 x. Sophia (1813-1890) > 16 xi. David (~-<1828) > 17 xii. Eve (~-<1850) > > 4. Sarah McCARTY. Born in 1766 in VA. Sarah died in OH. Buried in Rife > Cemetery, Sec 9, Cheshire Twp., Gallia County, OH, Near Old Kyger Church. > > On 7 Aug 1787 when Sarah was 21, she married Paul DARST, son of Abraham DARST > & Mary, in Shenandoah Valley, VA. Born in 1762 in Frederick County, VA. Paul > died in Gallia County, OH on 1 Mar 1826, he was 64. > > They had the following children: > 18 i. David (1788-1860) > 19 ii. Martin (1791-1857) > iii. Barbara. Born in 1794 in VA. Barbara died in Gallia County, > OH in 1875, she was 81. > > On 20 Sep 1832 when Barbara was 38, she married Charles SCOTT, son of Sabret > SCOTT & Marjory MAYS, in Gallia County, OH. Born in 1786. Charles died in > Gallia County, OH on 30 Sep 1854, he was 68. > > 20 iv. Mary (1795-<) > v. Elizabeth. Born in 1797 in VA. Elizabeth died in OH in in the > 1800's, she was 3. > > > > Third Generation > ---------------------------------------- > > 5. John DARST. > > John married Veronica Franey OVERHOLTZER. > > They had one child: > i. Isaac (1803-1871) > > 6. Abraham DARST. > > On 24 Jun 1806 Abraham married Catherine RIFE, daughter of Joseph RIFE & > Margaret CARPENTER, in Gallia County, OH. Born in 1788 in Greenbrier County, VA. > > They had the following children: > i. Abraham > ii. Andrew R. > iii. Jane > > 7. George Adam McCARTY. Born on 10 Feb 1788 in Shenandoah County, VA. George > Adam died in Salem Center, Meigs County, OH on 6 Dec 1877, he was 89. Buried > in 1877 in Pearsol Cemetery, Meigs County, OH. > > On 9 Nov 1813 when George Adam was 25, he first married Nancy RIFE, daughter > of Abraham RIFE & Catrina, in Gallia county, OH. Born on 10 Nov 1781 in > Greenbrier County, WV. Nancy died in Meigs County, OH on 10 Jan 1859, she was 77. > > They had the following children: > i. John (~1814-<1859) > ii. Hamilton (1816-1877) > iii. Jonas Benton (1820-1901) > > On 12 Jul 1863 when George Adam was 75, he second married Elizabeth TAYLOR, > in Meigs County, OH. Born abt 1800. Elizabeth died in Meigs County, OH on 12 > Mar 1883, she was 83. > > 8. Jonas McCARTY. Born on 7 Oct 1791 in Shenandoah, VA. Jonas died in > Cheshire Twp. Gallia County, OH on 20 Jun 1851, he was 59. Buried in 1851 in McCarty > Cemetery, Cheshire Twp., Gallia, OH. > > In 1811 when Jonas was 19, he married Esther S RIFE, daughter of Joseph RIFE & > Margaret CARPENTER. Born on 23 Mar 1791 in Greenbrier, WV. Esther S died in > Cheshire Twp. Gallia County, OH on 4 Sep 1884, she was 93. > > They had the following children: > i. Nancy (1812-1846) > ii. Moses M. (1820-1911) > iii. Eliza Ann (~1822-) > iv. Rachel (1822-1891) > v. Jonas (1827-1901) > vi. Esther Jane (1830->1870) > > 9. Mary McCARTY. Born in 1795 in Gallia County, OH. Mary died in 1886, she > was 91. Buried in School Lot Cemetery, Columbia Twp., Meigs County, OH. > > On 2 Jul 1812 when Mary was 17, she married William McDOWELL, in Gallia > county, OH. Born in 1791. William died in OH in 1853, he was 62. > > They had one child: > i. Anna Catherine (1820-1883) > > 10. John McCARTY. Born ca 1798 in Shenandoah County, VA. John died in Gallia > County, OH on 22 Sep 1825, he was 27. Buried in 1825 in McCarty Cemetery, > Gallia County, OH. > > On 2 Apr 1818 when John was 20, he married Sarah "Sally" SLATER, in Gallia > county, OH. > > They had one child: > i. Martin D. (~1823-~1890) > > 11. Elizabeth McCARTY. Born in Feb 1800 in Cheshire, Gallia County, OH. > Elizabeth died in Mahoning County, Youngstown, OH on 13 Mar 1899, she was 99. > Buried in Oak Hill Cemetery, Youngstown, OH. > > On 22 Jan 1824 when Elizabeth was 23, she first married Aquilla (Equlla) > William COSSLER, in Gallia county, OH. Born in Nov 1803. Aquilla (Equlla) William > died on 12 Mar 1899, he was 95. > > They had the following children: > i. James William (1825-1912) > ii. Virginia (1832-1921) > > Elizabeth second married Unknown. > > Elizabeth third married W. P. JONES. W. P. died abt 1876. > > 12. Benjamin F. McCARTY. Born on 5 Feb 1800 in Cheshire Twp. Gallia County, > OH. Benjamin F. died in Cheshire Twp. Gallia County, OH on 7 Apr 1887, he was > 87. Buried in 1887 in McCarty Cemetery, Gallia County, OH. > > On 17 Jan 1822 when Benjamin F. was 21, he married Elizabeth "Eliza" ROWLEY, > daughter of Thomas ROWLEY & Freelove MILLS, in Gallia county, OH. Born on 15 > Feb 1805 in Homer, NY. Elizabeth "Eliza" died in Cheshire twp. Gallia county, > OH on 23 Oct 1891, she was 86. > > They had the following children: > i. Richard (1824-1862) > ii. Rosanna "Rozanna" (1824-1910) > iii. Elizabeth "Betsy" (1826-1865) > iv. Mary (1829-1884) > v. Thomas (1833-1836) > vi. Martha (1836-1929) > vii. Joanna M (1840-1899) > viii. Samuel R. (1842-1919) > ix. Benjamin (1842-1844) > x. Electa C. (1847-1937) > > 13. Rebecca McCARTY. Born in 1805 in OH. > > On 12 Dec 1821 when Rebecca was 16, she first married Phinehas ROWLEY, son of > Thomas ROWLEY & Freelove MILLS, in Gallia county, OH. Born on 9 Jul 1802. > Phinehas died in Gallia County, OH on 9 Jul 1826, he was 24. > > They had the following children: > i. Rosetta Abigail (1825-1892) > ii. Lucina (1822-1895) > > Rebecca second married Unknown. > > They had the following children: > i. Vernon (~1836-) > ii. Unknown sex > > On 7 Oct 1838 when Rebecca was 33, she third married Daniel COGSWELL. > > They had the following children: > i. Harvey > ii. Catherine > iii. Milton > iv. Alice > v. Alley > > 14. Silas McCARTY. Born abt 1810 in OH. > > Silas married Oltha. Born abt 1814 in OH. > > They had one child: > i. James P (~1831-) > > 15. Sophia McCARTY. Born on 8 Apr 1813 in Cheshire twp. Gallia County, OH. > Sophia died in OH in 1890, she was 76. Buried in 1890 in McCarty Cemetery, > Gallia County, OH. > > On 10 Aug 1851 when Sophia was 38, she married Solomon SWISHER, son of George > SWISHER & Dortha ROUSH. Born in 1808. Solomon died in IL abt 1890, he was > 82. > > They had the following children: > i. Jennie (1853-1928) > ii. Vernon (1855-1909) > > 16. David McCARTY. Born abt 1792?? in VA. David died bef 12 Nov 1828 in > Gallia County, OH. > > On 27 Jan 1812 David married Sally FARR, in Gallia county, OH. Born abt 1788 > in VA. > > They had the following children: > i. George A. (1815-) > ii. William (1823-) > iii. Elizabeth (1825-) > iv. Eli > v. Belinda > vi. daughter > vii. daughter > > 17. Eve McCARTY. Born abt 1796? Eve died bef 1850. > > On 16 Aug 1816 Eve married Ephraim SMITH, in Gallia county, OH. > > They had the following children: > i. Katherine > ii. Caroline > iii. Margaret > iv. Elizabeth > v. UNNAMED > vi. Leander > vii. Levi > > 18. David DARST. Born in 1788 in Shenandoah County, VA. David died in Gallia > County, OH in 1860, he was 72. > > On 27 Apr 1812 when David was 24, he first married Mary "Polly" SHULER, in > Gallia County, OH. > > They had one child: > i. David (1825-1865) > > On 15 Mar 1848 when David was 60, he second married Eliza SCOTT, in Gallia > County, OH. > > 19. Martin DARST. Born in 1791 in Shenandoah County, VA. Martin died in > Gallia County, OH in Apr 1857, he was 66. > > On 26 Apr 1810 when Martin was 19, he first married Isabella SCOTT, daughter > of Sabret SCOTT & Marjory MAYS, in Gallia County, OH. Born in 1787 in VA. > Isabella died in OH in 1846, she was 59. > > They had the following children: > i. Sarah "Sally" (1810-) > ii. Nancy (1811-) > iii. Clarissa Susannah (1811-1882) > iv. Elizabeth (1814-1887) > v. Mary "Polly" (1824-1849) > vi. Melinda (1828-) > vii. Martin > > On 24 Jan 1847 when Martin was 56, he second married Sarah SHULER DARST, > daughter of SHULER, in Gallia County, OH. Born abt 1794 in VA. > > 20. Mary DARST. Born in 1795. Mary died bef 1832? > > On 10 Aug 1807 when Mary was 12, she married Charles SCOTT, son of Sabret > SCOTT & Marjory MAYS, in Gallia County, OH. Born in 1786. Charles died in Gallia > County, OH on 30 Sep 1854, he was 68. > > They had the following children: > i. Mary (1808-<1862) > ii. David (1810-) > iii. Elizabeth (1810-1865) > iv. Cynthia (1812-1886) > v. Sophia (1817-1867) > vi. Elisha (1818-1892) > vii. Lydia (~1822-1898) > viii. Charles C. (1823-1902) > > > > Index > > ? > Oltha spouse of 14 > Sarah spouse of 1 > Unknown spouse of 11 > Unknown spouse of 13 > COGSWELL > Alice child of 13 > Alley child of 13 > Catherine child of 13 > Daniel spouse of 13 > Harvey child of 13 > Milton child of 13 > COSSLER > Aquilla (Equlla) William spouse of 11 > James William child of 11 > Virginia child of 11 > DARST > Abraham spouse of 2 > Abraham 6 > Abraham child of 6 > Andrew R. child of 6 > Barbara child of 4 > Benjamin child of 2 > Clarissa Susannah child of 19 > Daniel child of 2 > David 18 > David child of 18 > David child of 2 > Elizabeth child of 4 > Elizabeth child of 19 > Isaac child of 5 > Jacob child of 2 > Jane child of 6 > John 5 > Joseph child of 2 > Martin 19 > Martin child of 19 > Mary 20 > Mary "Polly" child of 19 > Melinda child of 19 > Nancy child of 19 > Paul spouse of 4 > Sarah "Sally" child of 19 > FARR > Sally spouse of 16 > JONES > W. P. spouse of 11 > McCARTY > Belinda child of 16 > Benjamin child of 12 > Benjamin F. 12 > daughter child of 16 > daughter child of 16 > David 16 > Dianah child of 1 > Electa C. child of 12 > Eli child of 16 > Eliza Ann child of 8 > Elizabeth child of 16 > Elizabeth 11 > Elizabeth child of 1 > Elizabeth "Betsy" child of 12 > Esther Jane child of 8 > Eve 17 > George A. child of 16 > George Adam 7 > Hamilton child of 7 > Hannah child of 1 > James 1 > James "Jim" child of 3 > James P child of 14 > Joanna M child of 12 > John child of 7 > John 10 > Jonas JR child of 8 > Jonas 8 > Jonas 3 > Jonas Benton child of 7 > Margaret child of 1 > Martha child of 12 > Martin D. child of 10 > Mary child of 12 > Mary 9 > Mary 2 > Moses M. child of 8 > Nancy child of 8 > Rachel child of 8 > Rebecca 13 > Richard child of 12 > Rosanna "Rozanna" child of 12 > Samuel R. child of 12 > Sarah 4 > Silas 14 > Sophia 15 > Thomas child of 12 > Unknown sex child of 13 > Vernon child of 13 > William child of 16 > McDOWELL > Anna Catherine child of 9 > William spouse of 9 > OVERHOLTZER > Veronica Franey spouse of 5 > RIFE > Catherine spouse of 6 > Esther S spouse of 8 > Nancy spouse of 7 > ROWLEY > Elizabeth "Eliza" spouse of 12 > Lucina child of 13 > Phinehas spouse of 13 > Rosetta Abigail child of 13 > SCOTT > Charles spouse of 20 > Charles C. child of 20 > Cynthia child of 20 > David child of 20 > Elisha child of 20 > Eliza spouse of 18 > Elizabeth child of 20 > Isabella spouse of 19 > Lydia child of 20 > Mary child of 20 > Sophia child of 20 > SHULER > Mary "Polly" spouse of 18 > SHULER DARST > Sarah spouse of 19 > SLATER > Sarah "Sally" spouse of 10 > SMITH > UNNAMED child of 17 > Caroline child of 17 > Elizabeth child of 17 > Ephraim spouse of 17 > Katherine child of 17 > Leander child of 17 > Levi child of 17 > Margaret child of 17 > SWISHER > Jennie child of 15 > Solomon spouse of 15 > Vernon child of 15 > TAYLOR > Elizabeth spouse of 7 > ZIRKLE > Catherine Ann "Katie" spouse of 3 > > Kathy "Kath" (Burden) Shaffer > Omaha, NE > > Jesus is my Strength > > >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< >^,,^< > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

This is not my line. So, I may be tripping over my fingers and embarrass myself. I have 2 pages of Claytors indexed in a family book. (Yes, CLAYTOR with an R) There are about 8 Samuel Claytors & a few John Claytors, etc. I believe they are yours. I'm hopeful for you, because Bedford Co. is mentioned. If so, I have some of his history in the Rust family book. Warning.. I've abreviated. Please forgive typos. Its long. And no doubt, you already have this. RUST OF VIRGINIA, by Ellsworth Marshall Rust Pg 87 through several pages. "Thomas Claytor, II, whose will, Dec 27, 1750, was proven Sept. 28, 1756, m'd before 1730, Ann Mothershead, dau. of John & Elizabeth Mothershead, Westmoreland Co, VA [D & W, vol. 13, p. 38, Westmoreland Co.] His father of the same name was a proprietor of a land grant in Washington Parish 1718, m'd Katherine, whose will June 23, 1720, was proven Sep 28, 1720. Thosmas Claytor, II, had brother William who died before his father, and sister, Jane who m'd Carter & sister Ann, who m'd Goff. Alvin Claytor had brothers John, Thos, Wm., & Samuel, and sisters, Elizabeth & Anne. Thomas Claytor, II, father of Alvin was educated at Cambridge, Eng. (Pemborke College) about 1720. [Mrs. Stannard: "Colonial Virginia", p.292] Ann Mothershead, mother of Alvin Claytor was dau. of John Mothershead and wife, Elizabeth. His will Nov. 13, 1730, was proven May 26, 1731, Westmoreland Co. An inventory of the estate of Alvin Claytor was made in Westmoreland Co, Nov 22, 1755, and a supplementary inventory was filed Sep 28, 1762, there appears the item: "1756--to funeral expenses" and "By crop of tobacco made the year he died". In the same court, on Aug. 24, 1761, certain money and slaves were allotted to Samuel Walker in right of his wife's dower in the said Claytor's personal estate --one third, with two-thirds to Alvin Claytor's children. An inventory of the estate of Alvin Claytor was taken in BEDFORD CO, by Humphrey Pope, Laws, Butler, and Humphrey Quisenbury and returned amounting to 154 lbs-19-2. [I & A Bk 3; p.66, Bedford Co.] The Bedford Co Court on Oct 13, 1775, appointed Richard Stith, gent. Henry Terrill, and George Caldwell to state and settle accounts between Samuel Walker and the orphans of Alvin Claytor, and to return an account thereof to the court. Presumably, these children of Alvin Claytor, SAMUEL, and John had at that time reached their majority. [Order bk 1774-82, p.103, & Will Bk A, vol. I, pp 269-270--Bedford Co.]" .............................................................. Shirley's note: Back up.. Sarah Rust m'd Alvin Claytor, and was the mother of Samuel & John Claytor. The following goes on to tell that she next married Samuel Walker, creating the problem mentioned above. ............................................................................ ............ Back to the Book: Pg. 88 "The will of Samuel Walker, 2nd husband of Sarah (Rust) Claytor, May 9, 1787, proven June 5, 1788, gives name of his children --[Will Bk I, p.111, Cambell Co, VA] Campbell Co. was formed from Bedford Co, in 1782, and his home was thereafter in that county. It has not been conclusively determined whether these children so mentioned in the will of Samuel Walker were children of himself and wife of Sarah Rust Claytor Walker, but there is much evidence that such is true. The known duration of the marriage of Samuel Walker & Sarah Rust Claytor Walker, before Aug 24, 1761 to 1788 is of probative value, as well as the marriage bond of Nancy Walker and Thomas Moore, January 9, 1788, upon which John Claytor was Surety, it being noted that Samuel Walker, father of Nancy, had given his consent--Marriage Bonds, 1788, p. 45, Bedford Co.]" ............................................ Shirley again: I'm not finishing this yet. If you want it later, fine.. I'll gladly type it in.. But now, I want to get back to the Claytors. ............................................................................ ........................................................................... Back to the Book:, pg. 89 (Numbers are those Mr. Rust put in the book for each.) Sarah Rust's children by 1st husband, Alvin Claytor: 458 SAMUEL CLAYTOR, b. date undetermined. M'd #1) Ann Rogers; m'd #2) Mary Eleanor ____, as shown by deed made in 1778; m'd #3) Martha Ann Mitchell, dau of Robert and Mary (Ennes) Mitchell, Oct. 25, 1783. (Bible Records and Bedford Co, marriage bonds.) Children by Ann Rogers 1) 579 Margaret C (Peggy) Claytor 2) 580 Sallie Pope Claytor + 1 _______ Lewis; + 2 ______ Thompson, and lived in Charlotte Co, VA. 3) 581 Thomas Rogers Claytor Children by Mary Eleanor: 4) 582 Mary Eleanor Claytor, + 1815 John Robinson Children by Martha Ann Mitchell 583 JOHN CLAYTOR, studied medicine and became a practicing physician, settling first in Orange Co, NC: m'd 1) Elizabeth Holden, dau of Isaac Holden, a miller on Eno River, Orange Co, NC: m'd 2nd, Bedford Co, VA, 1829, Frances Rice Mitchell, his first cousin, dau of Rev. James (Father) and Frances (Rice) Mitchell, dau Rev David and Mary (Blair) Rice, dau Rev Samuel Balir, one of the founders of Princeton University, Princeton, NJ. John's Children by first wife: 6-A62..Samuel Claytor 6-A63.. Susan R Claytor, + Wm. L Mays & removed to McCracken Co, KY and whence she and her husband on Apr 26, 1855, gave power of atty to John W Mays to receive money due them from the estate of Dr. JOHN CLAYTOR, deceased, and Elizabeth Holden of NC, [Deed Bk II, p. 327, Bedford Co.] 6-A64.. Martha Claytor + May 2, 1843, James T Bolwles, d. near Chamblissburg, VA. (S: There are children here.. I'm omitting. Let me know if you want them listed.) 6-A65.. Harriet Claytor, lived in Pittsylvania Co, VA, d.unmarried. Dr. JOHN CLAYTOR bought in 1840, the farm of Samule K Mays, near Chamblissburg, Bedford Co, upon which he spent the remainder of his life, practising his profession there until his death. ............................................................................ .................................................. Back to the other children of Samuel Claytor and Susan Rust. (If this is your line, I can give you a lot more of the Rusts before Susan. and maybe beyond for the Claytors.) ............................................................................ ...................................................... 584--Frances G Claytor 585--Robert Mitchell Claytor 586--Samuel Smith Claytor 587--Elizabeth R Claytor, b. 1796, +1816, Wiley B Jones 588--James E Claytor, 589--Harvey Claytor, b. 1800, d. Franklin Co, VA + Sep 24,1830, Adeline Walker [They had children .. if you want them. ] 590--William P Claytor, b. 1802, + Martha N Robinson, dau James and Nancy Ribinson & removed to tazewll Co, VA 591--Martha (Patsy) Claytor, b. 1804, + June 7, 1825, Christopher Preston 592--Alvin Claytor, II b. 1806, + Harriett____; + 2nd, Locky Leftwich, dau. James Leftwich. ............................................................................ ................................ This goes on and on.. Contact me if this rings familiar and is what you seek. There is a good bit more describing Samuel's acquisitions. It mentions his interests in Kentucky lands.. some items in the inventory of Capt. Samuel Claytor's estate Aug 15, 1815.. Among other things, Mr. Rust presumes he was married about the time he acquired the land on Hatt Creek. That 454 acres, purchased for 40 lbs. was conveyed to John Claytor, probably his brother, for 130 lbs. [Deed Bk F, p. 36, Bedford Co.] ............................................................................ .................................. 459 John Claytor, b. @ 1754, Westmoreland Co, VA + Jan 12, 1792, Charlotte Leftwich, died bef. 1815, dau Thos. & Bethenia (Ellis) Leftwich, his 2nd wife, dau Charles & Susannah (Harding) Ellis of Amherst Co, VA. Child of John & Charlotte: 593 James Leftwich Claytor, d. 1878.. Lynchburg.. More data for him. Later on, another John, son of John & Charlotte. 594--John P Claytor went to Lewis Co, MO. Pg. 93.. Is this enough to identify some of them? There is more, if they are those you seek.. email me. I may have missed your first email.. concerning Claytor. Shirley Starks sstarks@tampabay.rr.com > I can't begin to thank all of you for the wealth of information you've sent in answer to my inquiry. Every bit has led me to something new so I haven't sorted it all out yet, but there is a whole 'nother thing Phyllis just brought up that I didn't want to let slide by - the CLAYTOR family. > > As far as I can tell, the 'r' isn't a typo, nor a clerical mistake on an early land transaction the family maintained for fear their property ownership would be questioned; it's Claytor. And they don't seem to connect in any way to my Culpeper Claytons, who were in Essex (old New Kent) along the Mattapony River anyway, for a few generations prior. > > I don't know who the CLAYTORs are and am hoping someone on this list might because half of genealogy turns out to be a process of elimination. CLAYTORs seem to pop up suddenly in Bedford Co., Virginia with a Sgt. Samuel Claytor (abt.1752-1815) who served in the Revolution. He lived and died in Bedford, but so far everything I've found, including the origins of purported spouses, indicates he came to Bedford, Virginia directly from Pennsylvania. A Mrs. Lottie Pace Carothers, DAR ID#110247 born in Danville, Pittsylvania Co., Va. is one later descendant listing surnames of PACE, HAGERMAN, & MITCHELL from Sgt. Sam's first wife Ann ROGERS. And if I have noted this correctly, a Miss Julia Graham ANNSPAUGH DAR ID#42612 born in Bedford City, Va, a descendant of his 2nd wife Martha Ann MITCHELL. > > The 29 Mar 1789 Bedford Co. Va Taxlist shows this Sam 4 3 9 0 0 0 0. > > Anyone recognize him? John may be one of his children. I downloaded the grant but it doesn't show me any further connect-ors. > > > >Master Index Virginia Surveys and Grants 1774-1791 compiled by Joan E. > >Brookes-Smith, 1976, KHS > > > >Name: Claytor, John > >Acreage: 868½ > >County: Fayette > >Watercourse: Bushy Fork > >Survey Date: 3-26-1785 > >Grant Date: 9-19-1787 > >VA Book 14:44-45 > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >

I can't begin to thank all of you for the wealth of information you've sent in answer to my inquiry. Every bit has led me to something new so I haven't sorted it all out yet, but there is a whole 'nother thing Phyllis just brought up that I didn't want to let slide by - the CLAYTOR family. As far as I can tell, the 'r' isn't a typo, nor a clerical mistake on an early land transaction the family maintained for fear their property ownership would be questioned; it's Claytor. And they don't seem to connect in any way to my Culpeper Claytons, who were in Essex (old New Kent) along the Mattapony River anyway, for a few generations prior. I don't know who the CLAYTORs are and am hoping someone on this list might because half of genealogy turns out to be a process of elimination. CLAYTORs seem to pop up suddenly in Bedford Co., Virginia with a Sgt. Samuel Claytor (abt.1752-1815) who served in the Revolution. He lived and died in Bedford, but so far everything I've found, including the origins of purported spouses, indicates he came to Bedford, Virginia directly from Pennsylvania. A Mrs. Lottie Pace Carothers, DAR ID#110247 born in Danville, Pittsylvania Co., Va. is one later descendant listing surnames of PACE, HAGERMAN, & MITCHELL from Sgt. Sam's first wife Ann ROGERS. And if I have noted this correctly, a Miss Julia Graham ANNSPAUGH DAR ID#42612 born in Bedford City, Va, a descendant of his 2nd wife Martha Ann MITCHELL. The 29 Mar 1789 Bedford Co. Va Taxlist shows this Sam 4 3 9 0 0 0 0. Anyone recognize him? John may be one of his children. I downloaded the grant but it doesn't show me any further connect-ors. >Master Index Virginia Surveys and Grants 1774-1791 compiled by Joan E. >Brookes-Smith, 1976, KHS > >Name: Claytor, John >Acreage: 868½ >County: Fayette >Watercourse: Bushy Fork >Survey Date: 3-26-1785 >Grant Date: 9-19-1787 >VA Book 14:44-45

Phyllis, Thank you so much for the information. I recently have been going over the tax lists and I found out the hard way exactly what you described and it sure did make all the difference in finding out more about my ancestor and their neighbors. Best regards, Chocy

The following may be Clayton and be of interest. For the recorded copy go to the Library of Virginia website to access. read and copy. < http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/ > Master Index Virginia Surveys and Grants 1774-1791 compiled by Joan E. Brookes-Smith, 1976, KHS Name: Claytor, John Acreage: 868½ County: Fayette Watercourse: Bushy Fork Survey Date: 3-26-1785 Grant Date: 9-19-1787 VA Book 14:44-45 Phyllis Vannoy Spiker

The headings for Virginia Auditor of Public Accounts 1790 Personal Property Tax List (PPT) for Shenandoah Co. are from left to right across the columns: Dates of receiving from individuals Persons named No. White Tithables No. Black Tithables Do. over 16 years No. Blacks over 12 years & under 16 years No. Horses Mares Colts & Mules No. Studd Horses Prices Covering at per season FYI 1790 is an Alpha list and neighbors may be determined by consulting the complete list and sorting by date. Using a perpetual calendar, one can determine the weekend days and other days when the Tax Collector may not have "visited". According to Schreiner -Yantis, The 1787 Census of Virginia, page xiv "Tithable - Subject or liable to payment of tithes; a person or thing that is tithable. The age at which white males were tithable at the county level was 16 years; at the state level, the age was 21 years. The county tax paid for the political operation of the county and for the care of the poor; the amount of tax varied from county to county and from year to year in the same county as the method of arriving at the amount of tax was to add the year's expenditures and divide this by the number of tithes. All paid the same amount for the state tithe; in 1787 the amount was 10 shillings per tithe." Regarding the state taxes which were first collected for 1782 and included : ibid. page xiii, "The tax on white males over 21 years and up was repealed on the 12th of October 1787." From 1782-1787 the list include white males 16-21. This column was not required beginning with the 1788 list; However, many commissioners continued to include this column. In later years these ages were again included for several years. Carefully, read all the column headings for each year. Cautions when consulting these lists. 1. Usually the heading is only on the first page of each list; therefore, you MUST make a copy of the first page. The headings do change from year to year. 2. The only notation of the year may be in the heading on the first page. Write the year on each page. 3. Cite the SPECIAL TAX COMMISSIONER'S NAME on each page copied. They collected within a precinct/geographic boundary. 4. Don't forget to cite the COUNTY NAME. Note: Land taxes for VA are separate lists then & now! Phyllis Vannoy Spiker

Cynthia, I assume you have the personal property tax list. I don't have 1790 handy but I know the first four columns are white titheables, Blacks over 16, Blacks over 12 & under 16, number of horses mares colts & mules. The other 3 columns probably were number of stud horses, ordinary licenses, and carriage wheels but I'm only about 75% sure of that. Tom Cynthia Claytonroberts wrote: > It's already a zillion sticky degrees here in Wales, Wisconsin, where the > barns will get air-conditioning long before the houses ever do.......that > said, please excuse my going-around-in-circles searching for my family > connections & answers. I've gathered the information below of my > gggg-grandfather Samuel CLAYTON, jr. born abt 1764 in Culpeper, Culpeper > Co., Va. He might have met his wife Catharine PRICE while visiting his > Aunt Lucy (Clayton) WILLIAMS's family in Woodstock. I know his cousin > Philip Williams b. abt 1766 who married Sarah CROUDSON, 15 Oct 1791, in > Shenandoah Co., was Clerk of Shenandoah County Court for a time. I know > absolutely nothing about the PRICE family and there are any number of Wm. > PRICEs in the neighborhood. Does anyone connect to this PRICE family? > > Would also love to know what the headings were of the columns on the 1790 > Tax List for Shenandoah County; the top is torn off my copy and I know the > headings differed in those days from county to county. I'm not sure my Sam > actually owned land in Shenandoah County and am wondering if these numbers > are horses (or billiard tables<g>) > > It looks like my Sam sold his stuff to his brother Philip in 1792 and then > moved on to Bourbon Co., Ky that same year, but I'm sure the WILLIAMs > family remained. I'm wondering if any of Sam's children returned & > remained. There is a Nancy CLAYTON (1802-1895) who married a Joseph > MILLER, 4 Feb 1833, in Shenandoah County. I'm wondering if she is one of > Sam's kids, or a maybe a CLAYTON from his Grand-Uncle Sam Clayton's line > out of Frederick Co., Va. > > I'm going to stop going round and round now and go put a cold cloth on my > head. Any help would be so appreciated. > Cynthia in Wisconsin > > ============================================================== > Marriage Bonds: Clayton, Saml., Jr. ---Price, Catharine. Dau. of Wm. May > 24, 1786. > ============================================================== > 1790 Shenandoah Co. Tax List > Mar 26 CLAYTON, Samuel 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 > (No Column Headings on this taxlist so I don't know what/whom he is being > taxed for) > ============================================================== > 26 Apr 1792 Culpeper Book R, pp70 > Samuel Clayton to Philip Clayton, deed of mortgage of 7 slaves and furniture > Culpeper Co. Deed Bk pp 70-71 6 April 1792 > ============================================================== > THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS > Volume 1 Part 1 CHAPTER III OLD KENTUCKY GRANTS > THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY > page 159 > Grantee: Clayton, Samuel > Acres: 1,000 > Book: 12 > Page: 53 > Date Survey: 10-25-1792 > County: Bourbon > Watercourse: Stoner Cr > ========================= > 1793 on Bourbon Co., KY Tax List > ========================= > 1795 on Bourbon Co., Ky Tax Roll - 1127 > ================================ > 1810 US FED CENSUS BOURBON CO. KY > Clayton, Samuel 13201 20101 p80 > ================================ > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.