Listed in the death registry is: KENDALL, Leonard, died on 25 May 1856, Tumbling River, Inflammation of the Stomach, age of death 61 yrs & 2 days born in MA, Carpenter, husband of Abigail KENDALL, reported by his widow, no further information given; Page 16, Line 40. Chocy

-----Original Message----- From: Joseph J. Messersmith, Jr. [mailto:jjmessersmith@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:57 PM To: VAROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com; VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} 1860 Rockingham/Shenandoah Counties census look-up request I am trying to find a John Smot/Smots/Smoot/Smoots on the 1860 census. He may have lived in Rockingham or Shenandoah County. I am particularly looking for the name of his wife. I think he may have married Mary Pirkey in the early 1850's. She was born about 1830. Please respond directly to my address since I am not a subscriber to the Shenandoah County mail list. Thanks in advance for your help. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA

Dell, You may have this already but thought I would send it along just in case. QUCIK, Elizabeth, died on 14 Dec 1859, Forest, Neuralgia, age of death 50 years and 6 months and 1 day. Born in Forest, VA. wife of Wm. Quick, parents Jack & Catherine Steegle, reported by her husband; Page 23, Lone 26. Chocy

In a message dated 8/29/03 7:44:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chocybrown@aol.com writes: > Nancy and listers, > I, took, have selected years and pages from 1782 through 1830. As time > permits, I would be happy to check a specfic name if I have the year you > need. > Chocy > Hi, I'm Melanie Oates Malone and I'm looking for George Wolfe who was supposedly in Shenadoah County, Va till he went to Logan and then Todd Cty Ky where he died in 1825. He was married to Elizabeth Fleming b in Va also, but I don't know where in VA. George was in Ky by about 1800 so anything you may have before then in Va I would be interested in. The second child listed, Jacob Wolfe, was my 3xgreatgrandfather who lived in Rutherford County NC till he died in 1865, was married to Nancey McEntire Thompson. I have all the info on my 3xgreatgrandparents but very little on George Wolfe. His last name may have been speelled several different ways, Wolf, Woolf, Wolfe, Woolfe, Wolff. Thanks for any help as I am disabled and only up out of bed for a short time each day and don't always get to the computer if I am not having a good day. Thanks, Melanie Oates Malone Below is just a tad of what I do know: 1. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1289">George Wolfe </A>was born ABT 1770, and died 1825. He married <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1290">Elizabeth C. Fleming</A>. She was born ABT 1770 in VA, and died 1850.     Children of George Wolfe and Elizabeth C. Fleming are:  2   i. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1029">George Wolf</A> was born BET 1790 AND 1820, and died UNKNOWN.   3   ii. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1055">Jacob Wolf</A> was born BET 1790 AND 1820, and died UNKNOWN.   4   iii. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I0377">James Wolf</A> was born BET 1790 AND 1820, and died UNKNOWN. + 5   iv. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1065">Michael Wolf</A> was born 1794, and died 1852. + 6   v. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I0161">Phillip Wolf</A> was born 1799 in VA, and died AFT 1850. + 7   vi. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1053">Samuel Valentine Wolf</A> was born 1810, and died 1850. + 8   vii. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I0658">Solomon Wolf</A> was born 1815 in KY, and died UNKNOWN. + 9   viii. <A HREF="http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=toddcountyky&id=I1122">Isaac Wolf</A> was born ABT 1822 in KY, and died UNKNOWN.

Chocy, I don't have any Rutters in my line, but I've done quite a bit of research on my Byrd and Jones lines from Berks County, Pennsylvania, and have often seen the names of Thomas Rutter and his descendants among the records of that area. My ancestor Andrew Bird moved from Berks County, Pa. to the Shenandoah Valley ca 1732. The Bird family had mills and forges at Craney Island right across the county line in present-day Rockingham County. Some of the second generation Birds (Abraham and Mounce) eventually moved into Shenandoah County. Before leaving Amity twp. (present-day Douglassville, Pa.) Andrew Bird signed the inventory (1727) of Mounce Jones. Mounce Jones in his will referred to a piece of his property where it adjoined the dam of Thomas Rutter, so we know they were neighbors. Andrew Bird also signed the inventory (1731) of Swen Rambo of Lancaster County (again right across a county line). Swen Rambo's widow and family also settled in Augusta County as neighbors to the Bir! ds. William Bird the Ironmaster (Birdsboro, Pa is named for his family) married Bridget Hulings, a granddaughter of Mounce Jones. Bridget's brother Andrew Hulings, a grandson of Mounce Jones, also moved the the same area. My point is simply that there were many inter-related families from that area who, within a few decades, moved to the Shenandoah Valley and settled near each other. Andrew Bird was among the first, probably arriving with the Jost Heydt group. If your family's name was actually Rutter, it would be a possibility that they come from the same area as all of the above mentioned families. Some of the following information about Thomas Rutter is from the book OLEY VALLEY HERITAGE by Philip E. Pendleton. "A variation on the small knot of families that came together was the family that comprised a virtual clan, with several related households settling next to each other. An example is the extended family of Quaker ironmaster Thomas Rutter who came to the valley in 1715 to establish Pine Forge, Pennsylvania's first ironworks. Although Rutter probably had the capital to bring along some skilled English ironworkers, it is possible that he, his three sons Thomas, Joseph, and John, and his son-in-law Samuel Savage furnished most of the necessary mine, forest, and forge labor during the initial, experimental years...The valley's first ironworks, and the first in Pennsylvania, was Pine Forge [referred to in early days simply as Rutter's Forge], in Douglass Twp., established as a bloomery forge by Thomas Rutter in 1715. Pine Forge became a finery forge when Rutter built Colebrookdale Furnace in the neighboring community of that name in 1719...[William] Bird, an Irishman, had worked h! is way up through the iron industry, beginning as a young indentured servant cutting wood for Pine Forge's charcoal in the 1720's...The window openings of somewhat later valley English-speakers' swellings, such as the Joseph Rutter House (Douglass, 1731), George Boone, Sr., House (Exeter, 1733), and the Mordecai Lincoln House (Exeter, 1773), appear to have been built to accommodate the familiar vertical sash window..." [Note: Pendleton is a historian whose research focuses on social history and architecture.] In 1721, the American Weekly Mercury advertised for a runaway from Thomas Rutter at the ironworks in the county of Philadelphia, notices to be given to his master or to John Rutter of Philadelphia, smith, for a reward. Thomas Rutter, Sr. was an Assembly delegate in 1729. The book includes a map showing the location of Rutter's land and Pine Forge. From: HISTORICAL REVIEW OF BERKS COUNTY, v. XXV, #4, Fall 1960, p. 121 "Just such a man was Thomas Rutter, an English Quaker and blacksmith, who settled in Germantown, then a German settlement near Philadelphia...Rutter must have been a man of means, for he had been made chief magistrate of Germantown. As magistrate he had to deal with the Indians along the Manatawny and won their friendship...In 1715 Thomas Rutter obtained a patent of three hundred acres in the Manatawny region from William Penn. With his son-in-law, Samuel Savage, he started up the Schuylkill River, and in 1716 he built a "bloomery forge," called Rutter's Forge, on the Manatawny Creek near present-day Boyertown. This marks the beginning of Pennsylvania's iron industry..." The article continues with a lot more about the iron business and Pine Forge. My interest is due to the probability that my Andrew Bird also worked at Rutter's Forge during his time in Amity Township. Interestingly enough, the Bird's forge in Augusta County, Va. was also named Pine Forge. By the time of the American Revolution, many of these early Pennsylvania iron-making business were beginning to look south for new areas with accessible ore deposits and plentiful forests for making the charcoal used in the refining process. William Bird's son Mark Bird and his partners are known to have invested in projects in the Shenandoah Valley. If you are able to link your Rutters to this family, you can be pretty sure that the iron industry was what brought them to the valley. My Pennybacker family who eventually bought Pine Forge from the Bird family right after the Rev. War, worked for Mark Bird in Berks County before removing to Maryland about 1783. There they briefly leased a fu! rnace from the Hughes family (another Pennsylvania iron-making family). When that endeavor was wiped out by a flood a few months later, they moved on down into Virginia and settled at...Pine Forge, in Shenandoah County. Small world, isn't it? Sherry Johnson Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:16:00 EDT From: Chocybrown@aol.com To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASHENAN] COLLINS/RITTER-RUTTER-RETTER Thank you for the Pennsylvania RUTTER information. The RITTER/RETTER/RUTTERS came into the valley somewhere around 1747. A story says they landed in Philadelphia in the 1730's and lived in Lancaster Co., PA for awhile. Some I believe moved to Westmoreland Co., PA about the time ours came into the Shenandoah Valley. There is a story they were from Holland but I have not been able to find the link back before 1753. Other family members seem to have links to Maryland and think they may German. Thank you again for the article. Chocy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

PART #8 Years 1782-1787 were sent on Part #7 on 2 Sep 2003. This part (Part #8) will be the year 1788. Please refer to the first look-ups to have some idea of what pages I have in my notebooks. This takes quite a bit of time, so I don't want to repeat information. The names listed below stating "Done for years 1800-1830" are still being looked for in years 1782-1799. If they don't appear on the list then I don't have those surnames on the lists in my possession. That does not mean they are not on one of lists; it only means I don't have a page with that name on it. You may want to order the film. Shenandoah County, VA Department of Taxation Personal Property Tax Lists 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond Microfilm Reel #315 "Requested Look-ups" COLLINS-ARTERBURN-BROWN-SMITH-WIATT-WIETT-WYATT (Done for years 1800-1830) ANDREWS-ODELL-ODLE-STOMBOCK-STAMBACK-STUMBACH-ENGLISH-VANCE Note: I am giving all the surnames I find for the names that are being requested; therefore, all the BALLES-BAYLES-QUICK-WILLIAMS-WILSON-HUPP- HAWKINS have been completed on the copies of the Personal Property Tax lists that were sent in Parts #1 through #6 that I have in my notebooks. On those lists, I have indicated what I have for each year. 1788 May 12; Arterburn, William; White male Tithables-4; Black over 12 under 16-1; Horses-9. May 8; Arterburn, Peter; White male Tithables-2; Horses-3. Oct 14; Brown, William the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. Oct 31; Brown, Henry the White male Tithable over 21; Blacks over 16-1. Oct 31; Brown, John Jr the White male Tithable over 21; White male Tithables over 16 under 21; Horses-8. Nov 13; Brown, John the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. Nov 27; Beale, Taverner, Jno Beale, Edward Collins all White males over 21; Black over 16-10; Blacks over 12 under 16-3; Horses-14. May 28; Balle, Henry the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-3. May 23; Brown, W. John the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-1. Jun 6; Brown, William the White male Tithable over 21; Blacks over 16-1; Blacks over 12 under 16-1; Horses-4. Jun 10; Brown, David the White male Tithable over 21. Apr 30; Collins, John the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-3. Aug 02; Odell, Jeremiah the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. Aug 02; Odell, Elijah; White male Tithables over 21-4; Horses-10. Some of the O's hard to read or are unreadable. May 14; Odell, Jonathan; White male Tithables over 21-2; Horses-4. May 17; Odell, John the White male Tithable over 21; Horse-1. May 22; Odell, James; Tithables unreadable; Horses-7. May 22; Odell, Abraham; Tithable unreadable; Horses-5. Jun 7; Odell, Edward the White male Tithables over 21. Apr 24; Smith, Samuel the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-3. Apr 24; Smith, William the White male Tithable over 21; Blacks over 16-1; Horses-8. May 16; Smith, John (Carpentry) the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. May 31; Smith, William (mar?) the White male Tithable over 21. Sep 26; Smith, Conrad the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. Sep 26; Smith, Isaac the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-4. Some the S's are unreadable. Oct 25; Smith, John (unreadable) Oct 25; Smith, (unreadable Oct 27; Smith, Valentine, Geo Hite (?), Philer (?) Smith; Horses-2. Nov 14; Smith, Adam, Smith, Adam Jr; No. White Tithables above 16 below 21-1. Jul 31; Smith, Catherine; No. White males over 21-1; Horses-2. Aug 2; Smith, Henry the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-3. May 16; Stumbock, Jacob; White males Tithables over 21-2; Horses-2. May 16; Stumbock, Frederick the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-2. May 16; Smith, William; White male Tithables over 21-1; Horses-6 May 10; Smith, John the White male Tithable over 21; Horses-4. May 26; Smith, Wilonouth; Horse-1. May 27; Smith, Peter; White male Tithables over 21-2; Horses-2. Apr 30; Smith, John (P. Creek); White male Tithables over 21-3; Blacks over 16-1; Horses-7. Apr 30; Smith, John (B.Smith); White male Tithable over 21-5. Apr 24; Smith, Rawley; White male Tithable over 21-1; Back over 12 under 16-3; Horses-4. Apr 5; Smith, Thomas the White male Tithable over 21; Horse-3. Apr 4; Smith, John (C. Run); White male Tithables over 21-2; Horses-5. Apr 24; Weatt, John the male Tithable over 21; White male Tithables over 16 under 21-2; Horse-3. NO KINDLE-KENDAL-WARTH were found for the year 1788.

Joyce, There is a Vance line in Gallia Co., OH that has roots in Shenandoah County. Could they be yours? I think they have a tie-in with the Aumillers but I'm relying on a leaky memory of a converstaion perhaps 8 years ago. Tom Joyce Franke wrote: >Chocy, > >In looking in my database, I see some other members of my family may have >lived in Shenandoah Co. Do you have the alphabet part for VANCE, ENGLISH, >WARTH? I see the 4 children of Samuel VANCE and Hannah WARTH were all >baptized 19 June 1774 (all on the same day) in Shenandoah Co. Perhaps they >lived there rather than in Frederick Co.? > >Thanks for all the great work you are doing for all of us! > >Joyce > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > >

hello, we received the other article that you sent so you can send more. i check it every morning and every day after school to make sure that there is not junk mail in it. thanks Terry Krider (Crider) >From: dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com >Reply-To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Licking Co., OH >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:11:21 -0400 > >Hello all, > >I saw all the messages about Licking County, OH and thought I >would relay some information I heard mention of the glass industry >in Ohio and folks moving from Shenandoah County to Ohio for that >reason. > >If you think about the last quarter of the 19th century, the country >was moving from an agricultural to industrial economy. Also as the >population increased, there was a general trend of migration from >the east to the west. > >I think Tiffin, Ohio was a common place for our Shenandoah >Countians to move to, as it is mentioned a lot in my own family's >history as well as turning up often in Judy Stickley's obituaries. > >From a search for glass in Licking County, OH, on the web, there >is mention of a glass industry that started there in the 1890's. I >didn't do a thorough search, but did find enough to know that it did >exist at that time. > >Hope this gets someone pointed in the right direction to answer >some questions. > >Don > > >*************************************************** >Don Silvius >Co-coordinator >Shenandoah County VAGenWeb ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> ><dsilvius@intrepid.net> ><dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> >*************************************************** > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

There is a Robert Kendal p. 122 in the Shenandoah County, VA (Western District) 1830 census. 1 male age 20-30 1 female 15-20 1830 Census Woffendal Kendal 1 male aged 40-50 1 female 20-30 Woffendal Kendal who married Rachel Johnson Oct 8, 1827 in Shenandoah Co., VA, and a James Kendall who married Biddy Riley also on the very same date. Other Shen. Co., VA marriages: Jesse Kendel & Polly Baley (prob. Bailey) 9 Dec 1815 Elias Kendell & Peggy Koons 4 Nov 1797 James Kendle & mary Lockhart 22 Jan 1813 I didn't see a marriage for Robert. Shirley Edillon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo & Ann Davis" <anndavis@adelphia.net> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > Hi Chocy, > I've been lurking on this list awhile. If you have time, I'd appreciate a > lookup on the far end of the range. My mystery man (Jacob Kindle/Kendall) > had a son born at Woodstock in 1834. Knowing any Kindle/Kendall who was > there in 1830 would further my research in a big way. > Thanks, > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> > To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:43 PM > Subject: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > > > > Nancy and listers, > > I, took, have selected years and pages from 1782 through 1830. As > time > > permits, I would be happy to check a specfic name if I have the year you > > need. > > Chocy > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

Hi Don, No, my family is Bean. My great grandfather,George M. Bean came to Tiffin wth his wife Sarah(Barr) I do not know where George is buried but Sarah is buried nearby at Bloomville. Tom Bean, married Martha Nesselrodt,and he lived out his life in rural Mt. Jackson, Va. But when he passed away , Martha and the younger children moved to Tiffin where she lived out her life. My dad, Hal Bean was well acquainted with many people from around here who were from down there. And I am still searching for Beans. Have a great day! Carol

Hi Chocy, I've been lurking on this list awhile. If you have time, I'd appreciate a lookup on the far end of the range. My mystery man (Jacob Kindle/Kendall) had a son born at Woodstock in 1834. Knowing any Kindle/Kendall who was there in 1830 would further my research in a big way. Thanks, Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > Nancy and listers, > I, took, have selected years and pages from 1782 through 1830. As time > permits, I would be happy to check a specfic name if I have the year you > need. > Chocy > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

Chocy, The years I had hoped would be included in the search for Wyatt/Wiatt/Wiett included 1786-1807... as I have Edward Wiatt there in 1785 (listed in John Wayland's book). You included these names in your search of 1800 and later... for which I am most deeply appreciative. I know now that he was gone from Shenandoah by 1800. If you could continue to include these names in your search of 1786 and later it would answer a really big question for us. Thanks again, Elaine

PART #7 Shenandoah County, VA Department of Taxation Personal Property Tax Lists 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond Microfilm Reel #315 "Requested Look-ups" COLLINS-ARTERBURN-BROWN-SMITH-WIATT-WIETT-WYATT (Done for years 1800-1830) ANDREWS-ODELL-ODLE-STOMBOCK-STAMBACK-STUMBACH-ENGLISH-VANCE Note: I am giving all the surnames I find for the names that are being requested; therefore, all the BALLES-BAYLES-QUICK-WILLIAMS-WILSON-HUPP- HAWKINS have been completed on the copies of the Personal Property Tax lists that were sent in Parts #1 through #6 that I have in my notebooks. On those lists, I have indicated what I have for each year. 1782 Arterburn, Peter; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-5; Tax-,15,3. Arterburn, Will; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-4; Tax -,15,-. Andrews; John; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-1; Tax -,12,-. Brown, John; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-5; Cattle-7; Tax -, 1,1.9. Brown, Tho; No. Poll Tithables-1; Cattle-8; Tax -,12,-. Collins, John; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-3; Cattle-6; Tax 1,1,6. Odel, Elijah; No. Poll Tithables-3; Horses-11; Cattle-22; Tax 2,7,6. Odel, Leah; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-8; Tax -,6,-. Odel, Elizabeth; Cattle; 7; Tax- -,1,9. Odel, Jas; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-10, Cattle-12; Tax 1,13,-. Odel, Edward, No. Poll Tithables-1; Tax -,10,-. (Some of the S's were hard to read or unreadable) Smith, Valentine; No. Poll Tithables-2, Horses-2; Cattle-2; Tax-1,5,6. Smith, Peter; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-2; Tax -,14,-9. Smith, John; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-2; Tax -,14,-6. Smith, Joseph; No. Poll Tithables-5; Horses-3; Cattle-4; Tax 2,17,-. Smith, Wm (?); No. Poll Tithable-2 (?); Horses-9; Cattle-29; Tax 4,15,5. Smith, Joseph; Horse-1; Cattle-4; Tax -,3,-. Smith, Saml (?); No. Poll Tithable-1; Horses-4; Cattle-6; Tax -,19,6. Smith, Isaac; No. Poll Tithable-1; Horses-3; Cattle-3; Tax -,14,3. Smith, Adam; No. Poll Tithable-1; Horses-2; Cattle-10; Tax -,16, 6. Smith, John; Horses-4; Cattle-6; Tax -,9,6. Smith, Nick (?); No. Poll Tithable-1 (rest unreadable) Smith, Nathan (?); No. Poll Tithable-1; Horses-1 Cattle-9. Smith, John; No. Poll Tithable-1; Horses-2; Cattle-1. Smith, John; No. Poll Tithables-3; Horses-5; Cattle-14; Tax 2,3,6. Smith, (to light to read) Smith, Joseph; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-1; Cattle-4; Tax -,13,-. Smith, Elisha; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-4; Tax -,15,-. Smith, Benj; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-3; Cattle-5; Tax -,17,-. Smith, John Jr; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-1; Cattle-8; Tax 1,-,-. Smith, Jno; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-3; Cattle-9; Tax -,18,8. Smith, John Sr; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-4; Cattle-8; Tax 1,-,-. 1783 Arterburn, Peter; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-2. Arterburn, William; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-5. Brown, John; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-5; Cattle-5. Smith, Adam; No. Poll Tithables-1; Horses-2; Cattle-8. Smith, William and Slaves Ben, Mint(?), Harry, Samuel, (?), Sarah and Thomas. No. Poll Tithables-1; Slaves over 16-6; Horses-7; Cattle-27. 1784 Brown, John; Tithables-1; Horses-5; Cattle-7. Smith, William; Tithables-1; Slaves above 16-6' Horses-8; Cattle-18. 1785 Allerburn, William; Whites above 21-1; Horses-4; Cattle-6. Brown, Michael; Whites above 21-1; Horses-3; Cattle-5. Smith, Adam; Whites above 21-1; Horses-3; Cattle-10. Smith, Joseph; Whites above 21-1; Horses-2; Cattle-1. Smith, Samuel; Whites above 21-1; Horses-4; Cattle-6. Smith, William, Whites above 21-1; Slaves above 16-5; Horses-8; Cattle-25. Smith, John; Whites above 21-1; Slaves under 16 above 12-1; Horses-4; Cattle-9. Smith, Henry; Whites above 21-1; Horse-1. Smith, John; Whites above 21-1. 1786 Arterburn, William; Whites above 21-1; Horses-5; Cattle-6 Arterburn, Peter; Whites above 21-1; Horses-3; Cattle-4. Brown, John; Whites above 21-1; Horses-6; Cattle-4. Brown, Henry; Slaves above 16-1; Slaves under 16 above 12-1; Horses-1; Cattle-1. Odall, Jeremiah; Whites above 21-1; Horses-3; Cattle-3. Smith, William; Whites above 21-1; Horses-3. Smith, Roleight; Whites above 21-3; Slaves above 16-2; Slave under 16 above 12-7; Horses-4; Cattle-10. Smith, Henry; Whites above 21-1; Horses-1. Smith, John; Whites above 21-1; Horses-2; Cattle-3. Smith, Joseph; Whites above 21-1; Horses-1; Cattle-1. Smith, William; Whites above 21-1; Slaves above 16-6; Horses-8; Cattle-11. 1787 (?) 9; Atterburn, William-Tithable over 21; White tithable over 16 under 21-1; Blacks over 16-2; Blacks under 16-1; Horse-9; Cattle-2. May 22; Brown, John-Tithable over 21; Horses-5; Cattle-4. May 7; Brown, William-Tithable over 21; Slaves over 16-2; Slaves under 16-1; Horses-3; Cattle-7. Apr ?; Odell, Abraham-Tithable over 21; Horses-4; Cattle-7. Apr 24; Odell, James & James Odell Jr.-Tithables over 21; White Tithables above 16 under 12-2; Horses-8; Cattle-1. Mar 10; Smith, Samuel-Tithable over 21; Horses-3; Cattle-11. Mar 29; Smith, William-Tithable over 21; Blacks over 16-6; Horses-7; Cattle-25. 1788-1799 will be continued in PART #8 as I find time.

Shirley, You may have this but thought I's pass it along in case you don't. "Shenandoah Valley Pioneers and Their Descendants" By T. K. Cartmell Page 26 "----------------The following named persons had surveys made them on the South Branch. Washington, say John COLLINS had settled in the Manor-near the Indian Village (North of sidte of Moorefield,) and that he and Mr. George Wm. Fairfax spent the night with COLLINS. This note also appears "James Rutledge was settled about seventy miles aboe mouth of South Branch, where they spent a night.------------------this note dated April, 1758. Thank you for the Pennsylvania RUTTER information. The RITTER/RETTER/RUTTERS came into the valley somewhere around 1747. A story says they landed in Philadelphia in the 1730's and lived in Lancaster Co., PA for awhile. Some I believe moved to Westmoreland Co., PA about the time ours came into the Shenandoah Valley. There is a story they were from Holland but I have not been able to find the link back before 1753. Other family members seem to have links to Maryland and think they may German. Thank you again for the article. Chocy

How coincidental! I am from Tiffin, Ohio and my family did come to Tiffin, from Mt. Jackson, Va. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Licking Co., OH Hello all, I saw all the messages about Licking County, OH and thought I would relay some information I heard mention of the glass industry in Ohio and folks moving from Shenandoah County to Ohio for that reason. If you think about the last quarter of the 19th century, the country was moving from an agricultural to industrial economy. Also as the population increased, there was a general trend of migration from the east to the west. I think Tiffin, Ohio was a common place for our Shenandoah Countians to move to, as it is mentioned a lot in my own family's history as well as turning up often in Judy Stickley's obituaries. From a search for glass in Licking County, OH, on the web, there is mention of a glass industry that started there in the 1890's. I didn't do a thorough search, but did find enough to know that it did exist at that time. Hope this gets someone pointed in the right direction to answer some questions. Don *************************************************** Don Silvius Co-coordinator Shenandoah County VAGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> <dsilvius@intrepid.net> <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> *************************************************** ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

I live in OH and also wonder why the migration from Shenandoah Co. My ancestors came to Ross Co Oh about 1835. This area was a draw because of good farm land. Rev War grants at one time too. But I've always thought they would come to a location where they already had family living. Of course, some family had to start things off and the first to move. Maybe it would be worthwhile for you to join the Licking Co Oh Rootsweb list for awhile and ask that question, ie what was that area like during the time period your ancestors came here?

Tom and Kym, What I know of our family backs up what Tom says. David Russell served in the War of 1812. (Previously in the Revo. War.) I believe there must have been several who left for Licking Co, OH.. Muskingum Co, OH. Sometime in 1815, David Russell moved his family to Muskingum Co, near Licking Co. (Later in Licking, before migrating to Vermillion Co, IN.) Joseph W Crown also left Shenandoah Co. for Licking Co, OH. He and his family remained there. Joseph Crown's wife, Mary, was a sister of David Russell's wife Jane. (Maiden name of Slater.) Some Slaters also migrated at the same time.. same places. Shirley Starks > Kym, > If you don't mind my asking, who were your ancestors that went to > Athens? The movement that way started, I think, with the battle of > Point Pleasant which had a lot of Shenandoah men in it. Then, one of > the Steenbergens went out later and may have attracted some of their > neighbors. > Tom > > David & Kym Pitman wrote: > > >Tom, > > > >Thank you! Thank you! Thank you for describing what conditions were like > >prior to the westward movement for those of us who have never seen the area > >except in pictures. I had often wondered what motivated my ancestors to > >move from the Shenandoah to Athens Co., OH. The portrait you paint gives > >clues for further research. > > > >Kym

There is a James and a Charles Collins below for the year 1827. Are these, perhaps, the children of Jeffery Collins? (b. 1756) From Joan Hackett, I have a James listed as a son; but not a Charles. In a court proceeding, he says his birth is recorded in the Bible of "Old man Russell". (Bible said to be with David Russell in Ohio.) I'm very interested in him because we have wondered if there is a family connection which we haven't yet found. Shirley Starks > PART #6 > > Shenandoah County, VA > Department of Taxation > Personal Property Tax Lists > 1819-1830 > Library of Virginia at Richmond > Microfilm Reel #317 > > "Requested Look-ups" > BALLES-BAYLES-QUICK-WILLIAMS-WILSON-HUPP-HAWKINS-COLLINS-ARTERBURN-BROWN-SMI TH > -WIATT-WIETT-WYATT. > > 1827-A; Joseph Strickler's District (Some A-B-C-D-B-H-J-R-K-M-N-K-L-P-S-T) > Mar 24; Collins, James; White males over 16-1. > Mar 24; Collins, Charles; White males over 16-1; Horses-2.

The glass industry makes sense, but my families came in the 1830-40 era. Thanks for your info. MCalvin >Hello all, > >I saw all the messages about Licking County, OH and thought I >would relay some information I heard mention of the glass industry >in Ohio and folks moving from Shenandoah County to Ohio for that >reason. > >If you think about the last quarter of the 19th century, the country >was moving from an agricultural to industrial economy. Also as the >population increased, there was a general trend of migration from >the east to the west. > >I think Tiffin, Ohio was a common place for our Shenandoah >Countians to move to, as it is mentioned a lot in my own family's >history as well as turning up often in Judy Stickley's obituaries. > >>From a search for glass in Licking County, OH, on the web, there >is mention of a glass industry that started there in the 1890's. I >didn't do a thorough search, but did find enough to know that it did >exist at that time. > >Hope this gets someone pointed in the right direction to answer >some questions. > >Don > > >*************************************************** >Don Silvius >Co-coordinator >Shenandoah County VAGenWeb ><http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> ><dsilvius@intrepid.net> ><dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> >*************************************************** > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Hello all, I saw all the messages about Licking County, OH and thought I would relay some information I heard mention of the glass industry in Ohio and folks moving from Shenandoah County to Ohio for that reason. If you think about the last quarter of the 19th century, the country was moving from an agricultural to industrial economy. Also as the population increased, there was a general trend of migration from the east to the west. I think Tiffin, Ohio was a common place for our Shenandoah Countians to move to, as it is mentioned a lot in my own family's history as well as turning up often in Judy Stickley's obituaries. From a search for glass in Licking County, OH, on the web, there is mention of a glass industry that started there in the 1890's. I didn't do a thorough search, but did find enough to know that it did exist at that time. Hope this gets someone pointed in the right direction to answer some questions. Don *************************************************** Don Silvius Co-coordinator Shenandoah County VAGenWeb <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> <dsilvius@intrepid.net> <dsilvius@tlcdelivers.com> ***************************************************