Chochy, MANY THANKS.. Shirley S. > I found it! > > "1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners ( and Gazetteer)" > Volume Four: Northern Region > Comprising the counties of : > Alexandria, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, Frederick Counties, Independent City > of Winchester, Loudoun, Madison, Orange, Prince William, Rockingham, > Shenandoah, Spootsylvania and Stafford Counties. > abstracted by Roger G. Ward > Iberian Publishing Company > Athens, Georgia > > Roger G. Ward > Lubbock, Texas > February 1999 > > This is a wonderful reference book; however, once you locate your person and > know where to find them, you should order the mircofilm and take a look for > yourself. You could find something not included here. I have the original copies > of the record for some of the pages and it has been of additional help to me. > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

Chocy, Thanks for the information re Elizabeth Quick, which I did not have. Since I have no indication the Quicksburg Quicks are related to me I haven't researched them particularly yet, but will save the tidbit you provided which is extra incentive to look into that family. Thanks for keeping a helpful eye out! Yours truly, Dell ----- Original Message ----- From: VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:08 AM To: VASHENAN-D@rootsweb.com Subject: VASHENAN-D Digest V03 #156 Content-Type: text/plain VASHENAN-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 156 Today's Topics: #5 [VASHENAN] QUICK [Chocybrown@aol.com]

1798-A Apr 5; Arterburn, William Senr; Whites above 16-3; Horses-8. Apr 7; Arterburn, William Junr; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Jul 3; Arterburn, Peter (Levy free); Horses-2. Mar 28; Brown, Amos; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 5; Brown, Soloman; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 26; Brown, David; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 6; Collins, Jefry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. May 3; Collins, George; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 9; Kendall, Benjamin; Whites above 16-1; Black over 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 26; Collin, Mitchum (Levy Free); Horse-1. Note: This Collin was listed under the letter "M" but Collin was listed first along with the other surnames) Apr 10; Odell, Stephen; Whites above 16-1; Horses-5. Apr 10; Odell, Andrew; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Apr 10; Odell, Jonathan; Whites above 16-2; Horses-4. Jul 16; Odell, James; Whites above 16-4; Horses-9. Jul 20; Odell, Samuel; Whites above 16-1; Horses-7. Apr 10; Smith, Henry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 14; Smith, Jaber; Whites above 16-2. Apr 14; Smith, John (Fort); Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 21; Smith, Coonrod; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Apr 24; Smith, John (Mt. Levy Free); Horses-2. Jun 4; Smith, Jacob; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Jun 17; Smith, Christian; Whites above 16-1; Horses- 2. Jul 9; Smith, John (P. Creek); Whites above 16-2; Blacks over 16-2; Blacks over 12 under 16-1; Horses-5. Jul 9; Smith, Jacob; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 16; Smith, Steward; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 26; Smith, Peter; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Jul 26; Smith, George; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 5; Wolf, Michael; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jul 3; Wolfe, John; Whites above 16-3; Horses-5. 1798-B None 1799-A Apr 20; Arterburn, James; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Jun 17; Arterburn, Peter (L. free); Horses-1. Apr 12; Brown, Amos; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 20; Brown, Soloman; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. May 18; Brombock, John; Whites above 16-3; Horses-8. Jun 20; Brown, John; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Mar 21; Colling, Jefry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-6. Jun 20; Collins, George Sr; Whites above 16-2; Horses7. May 21; Kindell, Benjamin; Whites above 16-1; Blacks over 16-1; Horses-2. Jun 17; Kendal, Elias; Whites above 16-1. May 18; Odell, James; Whites above 16-4; Horses-7. May 18; Odell, Jonathan; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. May 18; Odell, Samuel; Whites above 16-1; Horses-6. Mar 12; Smith, Christian; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Mar 15; Smith, Joseph; Whites above 16-1; Blacks above 16-2; Horses-2. Mar 18; Smith, Martin; Whites above 16-1. Mar 18; Smith, Rowley; Whites above 16-1; Blacks above 16-6; Blacks above 12 over 16-2; Horses-5 Apr 15; Smith, John (Mt.); Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 18; Smith, John (F. V.); Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 23; Smith, William; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 24; Smith, Jacob; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. May 11; Smith, John (P. C.); Whites above 16-2; Blacks over 16-3; Horses-6. May 11; Smith, William; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. May 16; Smith, Coonrod; Whites over 16-1; Horses-2. May 16; Smith Jacob (C.R.); Whites over 16-1;Horses-2. May 18; Smith, Peter; Whites over 16-1; Horses-3. May 18; Smith, Stuart; Whites over 16-1; Horses-3. May 18; Smith, Adam; Whites over 16-1. Jun 29; Wolfe, Michael; Whites over 16-1; Horses-4. May 18; Wiont, John; Whites over 16-1; Horses-3. Jun 13; Wolfe, John; Whites over 16-3; Horses-5. 1799-B List of Young's Captains 1-Isaac Goare 2-William Bird 3-John Hup 4-George Rinker 5-Christian Hoffman 6-George Fravel 7-Frederick Parrott 8-Abraham Snapp 9-Philip Spengler 10-John Colvill Jul 9; No. Capt. 4; Brown, Henry; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. Jun 4; No. Capt 6; Brown, Jacob; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. Aug 15; No Capt 6; Brown, Conrod; Whites over 16-1. Sep 13; No. Capt 2; Mc Williams, James; Whites over 16-1. Jul 5; No Capt 3; Smith, Adam Junr; Whites over 16-1; Horses-4. Jul 5; No Capt 4; Smith, Conrod; Whites over 16-1; Horses-3. Sep 12; No Capt 4; Smith, Charles; Whites over 16-1; Horses 3. Sep 12; No Capt 4; Smith, Adam; Whites over 16-3; Horses 3. Jul 4; No Capt 5; Smith, John; Whites over 16-1. Aug 27; No Capt 5; Smith, William; Whites over 16-1; Blacks over 16-4; Horses-6. Aug 27; No Capt 5; Smith, Mary; Horses-1. Aug 28; No Capt 6; Smith, Hugh; Whites over 16-1 Aug 24; No Capt 7; Smith, Samuel; Whites over 16-1. Aug 13; No Capt 9; Smith, George; Whites over 16-1; Horses-2. Aug 20; No Capt 9; Smith, Peter; Whites over 16-1. Aug 20; No Capt 9; Smith, Valentine; Whites over 16-2; Horses-1. May 22; No Capt 3; Watt, Samuel; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. Jun 11; No Capt 4; Woolf, Adam; Whites over 16-1; Horses-2. Aug 3; No Capt 4; Woolf, George; Whites over 16-1; Horses-5. Aug 3; No Capt 4; Woolf, Jacob; Whites over 16-1; Horses-2. Aug 30; No Capt 7; Woolf, Henry, Whites over 16-2; Horses-3. Aug 14; No. Capt 6; Yeager, Jacob; Whites over 16-1. Aug 14; No Capt 6; Yeager, Joseph; Whites over 16-1.

1793-A Jun 20; Aterburn, Elijah; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 1; Odell, Jonathan; Whites above 16-3; Horses-3. May 14; Odell, Elijah; Whites above 16-4; Horses-6. May 14; Odell, Jeremiah; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jun 20; Odell, Samuel; Whites above 16-1; Horses- 2. Jun 20; Odell, James; Whites above 16-3; Horses-3. (this list is cut off at this point so it is possible there are more Odells) Mar 22; Smith, Karvier; Whites above 16-2; Blacks above 16-4; Horses-3. Mar 23; Smith, John & Smith, B.; Whites above 16-4; Horses-2. Mar 23; Smith, Coorod; Whites above 16-2; Horses-2. Mar 23; Smith, Jacob; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Apr 6; Smith, John (P Creek); Whites above 16-4; Backs above 16-1; Black above 12 under 16-1; Horses-3 Apr 24; Smith, John M.; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. May 14; Smith, John (forest); Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Jun 10; Smith, Henry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Jun 11; Smith, Christain; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. 1793-B Apr 10; Smith, John; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Apr 18; Smith, Adam Jr; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. 1794-A Mar 13; Smith, Roley; Whites above 16-3; Black above 16-6; Blacks above 12 under 16-1; Horses-5. Apr 2; Smith, John (Mountain); Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Apr 9; Smith, Henry (Fort); Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 11; Smith, John (Fort); Whites above 16-2; Horses-2. May 14; Smith, Kenny (Blacksmith); Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. May 14; Smith, Jacob; Whites above 16-1; Horses-4. May 14; Smith, Conrod; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. May 15; Smith, John (B S); Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. May 15; Smith, John (P C); Whites above 16-5; Blacks above 16-1; Blacks above 16 under 12-1; Horses-7. (list cuts off here) 1794-B Apr 8; Smith Adam & Smith, John; Whites above 16-2; Horses-16. Apr 8; Smith, John; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 8; Smith, Adam Sr; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. 1795-A Mar 18; Smith, John (Mountain); Whites above 16-2; Horses-2. Mar 19; Smith, Conrod; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Mar 30; Smith, Roley; Whites above 16-3; Blacks above 16-5; Blacks above 12 under 16-2; Horses-6. Apr 3; Smith, John (Fort); Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 3; Smith, Henry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Apr 3; Smith, Christian; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. 1795-B May 27; Capt #1; Smith, Adam; Whites above 16-2; Horses-3. 1796-A Mar 15; Arterburn, William Sr; Whites above 16-4; Blacks above 16-1; Blacks over 12 under 16-1;Horses8 Mar 15; Arterburn, John; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2 Mar 15; Arterburn, Elijah; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Apr 9; Arterburn, William Jr; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. 1796-B May 17; Smith, William; Whites above 16-1. Aug 18; Smith, Adam Jr; Whites above 16-1; Horses-3. Aug 9; Keller, Jacob & Smith, Sam; Whites above 16-2; Horses-6. 1797-A Mar 18; Arterburn, William Jun; Whites over 16-1; Horses-2. Mar 24; Arterburn, William Sen; Whites over 16-3; Horses-4; Stud Horses-1; Rate of covering-10/. Apr 29; Arterburn, Elijah; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. May 13; Arterburn, John; Whites over 16-1; Horses-1. May 29; Arterburn Peter (Levy Free); Horses-2. 1797-B May 16; Capt #1; Whites over 16-1. (S's list cuts off here)

NO KINDLE-KENDAL-WARTH was found for the year 1788. PART #9 Years 1782-1787 were sent on Part #7 Years 1788 was sent on Part #8 This part (Part #9) will be the year 1789. Please refer to the first look-ups to have some idea of what pages I have in my notebooks. This takes quite a bit of time, so I don't want to repeat information. The names listed below stating "Done for years 1800-1830" are still being looked for in years 1782-1799. If they don't appear on the list then I don't have those surnames on the lists in my possession. That does not mean they are not on one of lists; it only means I don't have a page with that name on it. You may want to order the film. Shenandoah County, VA Department of Taxation Personal Property Tax Lists 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond Microfilm Reel #315 "Requested Look-ups" COLLINS-ARTERBURN-BROWN-SMITH-WIATT-WIETT-WYATT (Done for years 1800-1830) ANDREWS-ODELL-ODLE-STOMBOCK-STAMBACK-STUMBACH-ENGLISH-VANCE KINDLE-KENDAL-WARTH (Done only on 1788) YAGAR-Mc WILLIAMS (Starts with this year-1789) Note: I am giving all the surnames I find for the names that are being requested; therefore, all the BALLES-BAYLES-QUICK-WILLIAMS-WILSON-HUPP- HAWKINS have been completed on the copies of the Personal Property Tax lists that were sent in Parts #1 through #6 that I have in my notebooks. On those lists, I have indicated what I have for each year. 1789-A None 1789-B None 1790-A None 1790-B Apr 26; Smith, John (C Run); Whites above 16-3; Horses-5. 1791-A None 1791-B Mar 10; Smith, John; Whites above 16-1. 1792-A Some "S's" unreadable Mar 29; Smith, Henry; Whites above 16-1; Horses-1. Mar 29; Smith, John (C Run); Whites above 16-2; Horses-4. Mar 29; Smith, John (P Creek); Whites above 16-5; Blacks over 16-1; Horses-9. Mar 29; Smith, Christian; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Mar 29; Smith, Coonrod; Whites above 16-1; Horses-2. Mar 31; Smith, John & Smith, B; Whites above 16-4; Horses-3. Jun 18; Smith, William; Whites above 16-3; Blacks over 12 under 16- 2; Horses-4. 1792-B None

Tom, I am not sure what date the HUPP and ENGLISH families left VA for OH, and have seen conflicting info on that. Since Mary HUPP married Joseph ENGLISH in 1819 in Licking Co., we can be sure that they were there by that date. I have also seen that Joseph enlisted in the War of 1812 from OH, but think that is wrong. Probably from VA. His records at the Nat'l Archives are lost. I don't know anything abt how political Samuel was in OH? His grandson, Nathaniel Anderson ENGLISH, was quite political, although he was more of an entrepreneur than politician. He may have been Quaker, as he served the North in other ways than being a soldier. He built forts for the North. Just as dangerous as being a soldier, and he was captured a couple of times. Someone on this list commented abt the people in VA who hated slavery. The HUPP and ENGLISH families were among those. My mother commented once how her family members were opposed to slavery although they had lived in the South. Perhaps because they lived there! Well, this is something to study later. Tim HUPP is the authority on all things HUPP. I will have to write to him and ask what he knows. However, he concentrates on VA, not OH, so don't know if he would be of help with that. Joyce > Hi Linda, > Samuel Hupp posted bond for several members of the family. I've always > thought it was because he was a man of some political importance, but > maybe there was more. Please let me know if you find a further connection. > Tom > > >Joyce, > > > >(I've been away this weekend and just catching up on the posts) I need > >to chime in here on this Licking County migration. My ancestor, Robert > >Stokesberry (Strichberry/Stretchberry in Shenandoah Co. records) also > >migrated to Licking county--somewhere between 1814 and 1820. He bought > >land in Licking Co. in 1820, and only held it two years, then sold it > >and went on to Ross County, OH. > > > >The really interesting thing is that Samuel Hupp signed the Robert's > >marriage bond. I'd love to learn more about Samuel Hupp and his family, > >since I've been unable to learn much about my Robert's family. Evidently > >there was a fairly close connection. What was the time frame that Samuel > >Hupp migrated to Licking Co.? > > > >Linda Stokesbury Brennan

Hi Linda, Samuel Hupp posted bond for several members of the family. I've always thought it was because he was a man of some political importance, but maybe there was more. Please let me know if you find a further connection. Tom Alley wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Linda Brennan [mailto:linda@triadesignfirm.com] >Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:08 AM >To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [VASHENAN] Licking Co., OH > > >Joyce, > >(I've been away this weekend and just catching up on the posts) I need >to chime in here on this Licking County migration. My ancestor, Robert >Stokesberry (Strichberry/Stretchberry in Shenandoah Co. records) also >migrated to Licking county--somewhere between 1814 and 1820. He bought >land in Licking Co. in 1820, and only held it two years, then sold it >and went on to Ross County, OH. > >The really interesting thing is that Samuel Hupp signed the Robert's >marriage bond. I'd love to learn more about Samuel Hupp and his family, >since I've been unable to learn much about my Robert's family. Evidently >there was a fairly close connection. What was the time frame that Samuel >Hupp migrated to Licking Co.? > >Linda Stokesbury Brennan > > > >Joyce Franke wrote: > > >>My family went to Newark, Licking Co., OH. I am not sure of the date, >>although Mary HUPP m Joseph ENGLISH in 1819 in Newark, so they were >> >> >> > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >

I found it! "1815 Directory of Virginia Landowners ( and Gazetteer)" Volume Four: Northern Region Comprising the counties of : Alexandria, Culpeper, Fairfax, Fauquier, Frederick Counties, Independent City of Winchester, Loudoun, Madison, Orange, Prince William, Rockingham, Shenandoah, Spootsylvania and Stafford Counties. abstracted by Roger G. Ward Iberian Publishing Company Athens, Georgia Roger G. Ward Lubbock, Texas February 1999 This is a wonderful reference book; however, once you locate your person and know where to find them, you should order the mircofilm and take a look for yourself. You could find something not included here. I have the original copies of the record for some of the pages and it has been of additional help to me.

Frederick County, Virginia Wills & Administrations 1795-1816 Compiled by M. N. Kangas D. E. Payne Page 67 SMITH, SAMUEL Inventory and appraisal: 2 Sept 1805 Appraisers: Jno. Coole, Joseph Gorden and John Roger (p. 123-125) Page 42 SMITH, JEREMIAH Account & Settlement. 21 Nov 1801/30 Nov 1801 Exrs: Samuel Smith, Jeremiah Smith Examiners: Jonathan Lovett, Joseph Baker, Benjamin McDonald, Joseph Baley (p. 666-668)

The company that published that book went out of business. Iberan Press there might be a few copies around at independent genealogy stores. Bruce C Young III

1860 ShenCo census, pg. 582 SMOOTZ, John H, 29, Cabinet Maker Mary E, 29 Claura (?), 7 Benjamin, 6 Franklin, 4 Theodore, 1 Elinora Miller, 16, House Guest

Shirley, I believe if you do a Google.com search engine search for Appleton's it should bring up the bookstore where you need to order the book. The bad news is I missed placed my book two days ago along with my garage opener. The good news is I found my garage opener in the bottom of the laundry basket, so the book should show up soon-----------guess I have been trying to do too many things at once! Anyhow, the book is a series for the different areas of Virginia. If you look for "1815 Virginia Landowners" it should bring you to a selection list. At that point, you want the Northern Neck area which will have a Volume number with a list of all the counties it covers. I believe I paid somewhere around $35 to $40 for my book and it is very valuable in locating the approximate area where the property is located. Taking the information from the different personal property and land tax lists you can figure out a lot. I have since copied the original Frederick County, VA 1815 land tax records and I can say for the most part that the book is pretty correct; however, a warning to ALL----------------there is nothing like looking at the film yourself! I found a few errors concerning the direction from the courthouse the property was located; instead of the SE the book said SW and that really threw me until I went into the original record and found the book had made the error--------------I know, for sure, NOW, that the property was in fact SE as was stated in the original record. Also, when reading the original record sometimes they are hard to read and you may be able to interrupt the writing better based on information you already know concerning the subject. Also, I lost one of my relatives and could not find him in one of my index books. When I was checking out the different tax years I found him listed as a White Male over 21 years of age whose tax was being paid by the first person listed--------"Person responsible for the Tithable" along with several other men. Each year is different, so you just don't know what you might find------------if you can, order the original and take a look for yourself. You may be very surprised at what you may find! Anyhow Shirley, if you can't locate the book let me know and when I find my copy I will post all the needed information. Good Luck, Chocy

Thanks Shirley, every little bit helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Edillon" <swe@cox.net> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > There is a Robert Kendal p. 122 in the Shenandoah County, VA (Western > District) 1830 census. > 1 male age 20-30 > 1 female 15-20 > > 1830 Census Woffendal Kendal > 1 male aged 40-50 > 1 female 20-30 > > Woffendal Kendal who married Rachel Johnson Oct 8, 1827 in Shenandoah Co., > VA, and a James Kendall who married Biddy Riley also on the very same date. > > Other Shen. Co., VA marriages: > Jesse Kendel & Polly Baley (prob. Bailey) 9 Dec 1815 > Elias Kendell & Peggy Koons 4 Nov 1797 > James Kendle & mary Lockhart 22 Jan 1813 > I didn't see a marriage for Robert. > > Shirley Edillon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geo & Ann Davis" <anndavis@adelphia.net> > To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > > > > Hi Chocy, > > I've been lurking on this list awhile. If you have time, I'd appreciate a > > lookup on the far end of the range. My mystery man (Jacob Kindle/Kendall) > > had a son born at Woodstock in 1834. Knowing any Kindle/Kendall who was > > there in 1830 would further my research in a big way. > > Thanks, > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> > > To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:43 PM > > Subject: [VASHENAN] PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST > > > > > > > Nancy and listers, > > > I, took, have selected years and pages from 1782 through 1830. As > > time > > > permits, I would be happy to check a specfic name if I have the year you > > > need. > > > Chocy > > > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > > > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

Chocy, Would you elaborate on your map or source for the 1815 landowners? Is it in a book or a separate map? Do you know if its still available for purchase? Thanks.. Shirley S. You wrote: > I consulted the 1815 Shenandoah County landowners and found George > Knisely's property10 miles south east of the Woodstock Courthouse. I consulted a > cemetery listing and found George Knisely and his family buried around > Dietrick. > A lister said that Dietrick was over the mountain from Powells Big > Fort (I am from California so all I see is the maps flat surfaces).

-----Original Message----- From: Joseph J. Messersmith, Jr. [mailto:jjmessersmith@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:57 PM To: VAROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com; VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} 1860 Rockingham/Shenandoah Counties census look-up request I am trying to find a John Smot/Smots/Smoot/Smoots on the 1860 census. He may have lived in Rockingham or Shenandoah County. I am particularly looking for the name of his wife. I think he may have married Mary Pirkey in the early 1850's. She was born about 1830. Please respond directly to my address since I am not a subscriber to the Shenandoah County mail list. Thanks in advance for your help. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA

-----Original Message----- From: Linda Brennan [mailto:linda@triadesignfirm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:08 AM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [VASHENAN] Licking Co., OH Joyce, (I've been away this weekend and just catching up on the posts) I need to chime in here on this Licking County migration. My ancestor, Robert Stokesberry (Strichberry/Stretchberry in Shenandoah Co. records) also migrated to Licking county--somewhere between 1814 and 1820. He bought land in Licking Co. in 1820, and only held it two years, then sold it and went on to Ross County, OH. The really interesting thing is that Samuel Hupp signed the Robert's marriage bond. I'd love to learn more about Samuel Hupp and his family, since I've been unable to learn much about my Robert's family. Evidently there was a fairly close connection. What was the time frame that Samuel Hupp migrated to Licking Co.? Linda Stokesbury Brennan Joyce Franke wrote: > > My family went to Newark, Licking Co., OH. I am not sure of the date, > although Mary HUPP m Joseph ENGLISH in 1819 in Newark, so they were >

Thanks Chocy, 'preciate it. Jacob Kendall came to Highland Co OH about 1836 but his father may still have been in that area. Thanks, Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] KENDALL > Listed in the death registry is: > KENDALL, Leonard, died on 25 May 1856, Tumbling River, Inflammation of the > Stomach, age of death 61 yrs & 2 days born in MA, Carpenter, husband of Abigail > KENDALL, reported by his widow, no further information given; Page 16, Line > 40. > > Chocy > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

Sherry, That is so very interesting! I recently found a deed where John Ritter/Rutter sold to George Knisely 150 acres in Powells Big Fort in 1799. Along with the land, he sold everything on the place it seems. Listed on the inventory going to George Knisely were quarry tools! He also used a block I:MR in place of where the "x" should have been between his first and last name on the deed. I still can not find where he purchased the land or when he purchased it. I wonder if there was iron on the land? Now there are two John Rutters listed on the Personal Property Tax List going upwards from the 1782. On one year, one of the John Rutters had written behind his name (North fork); but I can't say for sure which John Rutter was on the North fork. I consulted the 1815 Shenandoah County landowners and found George Knisely's property10 miles south east of the Woodstock Courthouse. I consulted a cemetery listing and found George Knisely and his family buried around Dietrick. A lister said that Dietrick was over the mountain from Powells Big Fort (I am from California so all I see is the maps flat surfaces). You are absolutely right about these families coming into the valley together. Do you know about where in Shenandoah County your Birds lived? Got to get to bed. I am in the process of painting my kitchen so I need to get up bright and early. Thank you for the great information. It will be interesting to find out if the Birds were close neighbors to the Rutters. Chocy