>From "THE FREE PRESS", Sept 4, 2003 edition, "Pages from newspapers past". Feb. 22, 1889 "Letter about old New Market. Messrs. Editors.-Having lived at your place and being one of the older citizens, I often think of , and call to mind, the following names of many of the older citizens of your place, and now put them on record for future generations, as: William Wickes, wheelwright; Peter Windle, blacksmith; James McCann, furniture maker; Watson Alman, son of William; Samuel Tidler, hatter, the doctors were Solomon Henkel, John W. Rice, S. G. Henkel, S. P. C. Henkel, Neff and Allen; the preachers were Revs. Paul Henkel, Ambrose Henkel, J. Stirewalt and Oswalt; George Cring, watch maker; Philip Pitman, hotel keeper; Jacob Sommers, tinner; the merchants were Coffman, Strayer, the Henkels, Neff, &c.; Jacob Savage, hotel keeper, hatter and tanner; Joseph Little, shoemaker; James Charlton, saddler; John Gay, tailor; A. Spreecher, tanner; Francis Sibert, saddler; T. Read, tailor; John Kiggs, hotel keeper; Martin Myers, shoe-maker; Samuel Huston, saddler; John Coffman, weaver; Pat. McMannas, merchant; John Shomo, carpenter; Anthony Duf, garener; Jessie Spencer, laborer; Bodells, saddle tree makers; Christ Adams; Mrs. Day; Samuel Spitzer, gun smith; Elijah Moore, mason; Granny Shomo, cakes and beer; J. Sugars, tailor; Theodore Jordan, carpenter; Daniel Shomo, gun smith; John Deppo, plasterer; John Kipps, wagon store; Wm. Windle, smith; Adam Olinger, black smith; John and Jacob Savage, farmers; and kept fine horses; the latter owned by father; David Pence, tanner; Mrs. Frost, an old colored woman, whom they called Granny Talmer; John Watkins, brickmaker; Joseph Charlton, shoe maker. Most if not all, these have passed away. ..I love your place. It is my birthday; I want to get back down to my old home before long. There is not one day that I do not think of my old home. I was so well pleased when I was there last time. Yours truly, William Monroe Strother, Wilkesbarre, Pa." Rick Monroe Long Beach, CA (Not running for Governor) P.S.: I'm sure that in the above letter, Granny Shomo would have been my favorite person!!

the poll tax was eliminated by the 24 amendment to the constitution on 1 23 1964, the purpose of the poll tax was to repress the vote.....ie African Americans the poll tax in England was another matter, the first one was to pay for the War with France, the second one was the downfall of Margaret Thacher

Margaret, I'll answer the easy part first. They were still collecting the personal property tax as of a few years ago that I know of and I suspect they still are this year. The tithable part (poll tax) ended in the late 1960's, I think, when voting rights were being extended. As to whether everyone had to pay the tax, essentially they did. Then, as now, there must have been people living "off the record" who escaped taxes, and I expect that the authorities turned a blind eye toward a few people. But, generally, destitution was a fairly serious matter and would have gotten the attention of the Poor Warden or the County Court or the keeper of the Poor House, depending on which time. Tom Margaret Davis wrote: >This is a question that I have been meaning to ask. Did everyone HAVE to pay the tax. Suppose a family had several sons and was destitute what would happen in that case to you know. And how late did they still collect taxes into the 1800's. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Pierce > To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Re: PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST-SHENANDOAH CO., VA > > > Norman, > Most people who were subject to militia service were also tithables, but > not vice-versa. A tithable was a person, sometimes 21 but usually 16, > who was subject to the poll tax to support the parish prior to the > Revolution and the County thereafter (I'm not certain of the exact date > of transition, but 1782 would be a fair guess). > In the time period 1782-1786 (please don't take this to mean it was done > differently before 1782 - it's just that evidence is scant), it appears > the local magistrate, or someone in a similar capacity, gathered the tax > lists. Those lists were taken by districts which were probably > magisterial districts. Beginning in 1787, the tax collection was > handled by area corresponding to the militia regimental area. It is > quite possible that, in many instances, the magisterial districts > coincided at least roughly with militia company areas. > It was up to the County Court to excuse folks from the levy, except for > constables, Peter Muhlenberg, and (I'm told) state officials, who were > at times exempted by law. Obviously, if one were old and infirm, or > perhaps one-legged from Revolutionary service, then the County Court > would be likely to give an exemption since that person would be unable > to easily make payment. > > Tom > > Norman Runyon wrote: > > >Tithable Questions: > > I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal > >property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult > >male age 21 or older? > > Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I > >assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to > >callup for militia duty? > > I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some of > >the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are still > >taxed for their horses. > > In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too old > >for militia service? > > Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? > > Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer be > >considered a "Tithable"? > >Norman > > > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > >

This is a question that I have been meaning to ask. Did everyone HAVE to pay the tax. Suppose a family had several sons and was destitute what would happen in that case to you know. And how late did they still collect taxes into the 1800's. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Pierce To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Re: PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST-SHENANDOAH CO., VA Norman, Most people who were subject to militia service were also tithables, but not vice-versa. A tithable was a person, sometimes 21 but usually 16, who was subject to the poll tax to support the parish prior to the Revolution and the County thereafter (I'm not certain of the exact date of transition, but 1782 would be a fair guess). In the time period 1782-1786 (please don't take this to mean it was done differently before 1782 - it's just that evidence is scant), it appears the local magistrate, or someone in a similar capacity, gathered the tax lists. Those lists were taken by districts which were probably magisterial districts. Beginning in 1787, the tax collection was handled by area corresponding to the militia regimental area. It is quite possible that, in many instances, the magisterial districts coincided at least roughly with militia company areas. It was up to the County Court to excuse folks from the levy, except for constables, Peter Muhlenberg, and (I'm told) state officials, who were at times exempted by law. Obviously, if one were old and infirm, or perhaps one-legged from Revolutionary service, then the County Court would be likely to give an exemption since that person would be unable to easily make payment. Tom Norman Runyon wrote: >Tithable Questions: > I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal >property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult >male age 21 or older? > Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I >assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to >callup for militia duty? > I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some of >the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are still >taxed for their horses. > In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too old >for militia service? > Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? > Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer be >considered a "Tithable"? >Norman > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Norman, Most people who were subject to militia service were also tithables, but not vice-versa. A tithable was a person, sometimes 21 but usually 16, who was subject to the poll tax to support the parish prior to the Revolution and the County thereafter (I'm not certain of the exact date of transition, but 1782 would be a fair guess). In the time period 1782-1786 (please don't take this to mean it was done differently before 1782 - it's just that evidence is scant), it appears the local magistrate, or someone in a similar capacity, gathered the tax lists. Those lists were taken by districts which were probably magisterial districts. Beginning in 1787, the tax collection was handled by area corresponding to the militia regimental area. It is quite possible that, in many instances, the magisterial districts coincided at least roughly with militia company areas. It was up to the County Court to excuse folks from the levy, except for constables, Peter Muhlenberg, and (I'm told) state officials, who were at times exempted by law. Obviously, if one were old and infirm, or perhaps one-legged from Revolutionary service, then the County Court would be likely to give an exemption since that person would be unable to easily make payment. Tom Norman Runyon wrote: >Tithable Questions: > I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal >property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult >male age 21 or older? > Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I >assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to >callup for militia duty? > I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some of >the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are still >taxed for their horses. > In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too old >for militia service? > Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? > Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer be >considered a "Tithable"? >Norman > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > >

Tithable Questions: I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult male age 21 or older? Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to callup for militia duty? I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some of the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are still taxed for their horses. In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too old for militia service? Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer be considered a "Tithable"? Norman

Here are some tax records from notes I made several years ago. I'm not sure whether the term used was taxables or tithables. I do not have copies of the pages, just these names that I extracted from the microfilm copies. Personal Property Tax Rolls (mf #89) Shenandoah Co., Va. Dallas Public Library, Dallas, TX 1784 -- -Mayberry, Pennybacker, Samuels 1785 -- Dederick Pennebacker 9 tithables (21+) 4 horses 1 cattle Isaac Samuels 1 tithable (21+) 1 horse 1786 -- Darick Pennebaker 5 tithables (21+) 6 horses 3 cattle - Samuels, Mayberry Persons Charged w/tax {tithables} 1787 May 10 -- Penebaker, Derick {Derick Penebacker, Benj. Penebaker, Ab'm Penebaker, John Martin, Joseph Bennet, Joseph Samuels, John Hickey, Adam Broils} May 10 -- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels} 1788 Sept. 5 -- Mayberry, George {George Mayberry} Aug. 26 -- Penebaker, Benj. {Benj. Penebaker, Ab'm Penebaker} May 26 -- Penebaker, Derick {17 tithables} Aug. 19 -- Bird, Mounce {Mounce Bird, Wm. Bird, Wm. Thornton} 1789 June 6 -- Penebaker, Derick & Co. {19 white tithables, 2 blacks (16+), 19 horses, mares, colts, mules} Aug. 21--Mayberry, George 1 white tithable (21+) 1 horse... Oct. 30 -- Penebaker, Benj. {Penebaker, Benj., Ab'm, & John Penebaker, Rich'd Tanner, Joseph Harris, Joseph Samuels} 6 tithables, 7 horses... 1790 -- -- Mayberry, George 1 tithable 1 horse May 31-- Penebaker, Benj. {Penebaker, Benj., Joseph Samuels, John Brawdice, Ab'm Penebaker, Anthony Tanner} 5 white tithables, 1 black (16+) 6 horses... Penebaker, Dedrick 2 tithables 2 horses... 1791 Nov. 1 -- Snelling, Aquila 1 tithable Nov. 1 -- Penebaker, Dederick 10 white tithables, 2 blacks (16+), 1 black (12-16), 14 horses... Aug. 10--Mayberry, Joseph 1 tithable Aug. 17--Penebaker, Benj. {Penebaker, Benj., Geo. Mayberry, Isaac Samuels, Joseph Samuels, Samuel McKey} 5 tithables Aug. 10--Rose, Isaac 1 tithable Nov. 7 -- Ruddle, George 1 tithable Nov. 11 -- Ruddle, Elizabeth {Isaac & Geo. Ruddell} 2 tithables (21+) 1 black (16+) 5 horses... 1792 Jun 23 -- Penebaker, Dederick 10 tithables, 1 black (16+) 1 black (12-16) 12 horses... Mar 17 -- Snelling, Charles 1 tithable 1 horse Jun 20 -- Snelling, Aquila 1 tithable -- Mayberry, Joseph 1 tithable -- Ruddle, George 1 tithable -- Ruddle, William 1 tithable -- Samuel, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Benj'm Pennybacker, Geo. Mayberry, Joseph Cokeland, John Rogers, Edward Evans, Felix O. Neal, Samuel McKey, Henry Painter, John Smith} 10 tithables, 1 black (12-16) 11 horses... 1793 Capt. 1=Isaac Goare Capt. 2= Wm. Bird Capt. 3=John Hupp Capt. 5=Christian Hoffman [Sorry, I appear to have missed Capt. 6's identity] Jun 11 -- Penebaker, Dedrick 12 tithables, 1 black (16+) 1 black (12-16) 13 horses... Jun 11 -- Penabaker, Benjamin 3 tithables 9 horses... Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse July 25-- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Geo. Mayberry, Charles Taylor, Jno. Doyle, Henry Painter, Edward Evans} 6 tithables 6 horses... 1794 May 14 -- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Geo. Mayberry, Henry Painter, William Mayberry (May 19)} 4 taxables 9 horses May 19 -- Penebacker, John 1 tithable 1795 May 26 Samuels, Isaac 6 tithables 1 black (16+) 8 horses May 18 Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse Apr. 8 Pennibacker, Benj. 5 tithables 3 blacks (16+) 8 horses Apr 8 Pennibacker, Derick 3 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 9 horses May 23 Pennibacker, John 1 tithables 1 horse 1796 Jun 13 Pennybacker, Derrick 2 tithables 5 horses May 20 Pennybacker, John 1 tithable May 17 Samuels, Issac, Mayberry [George] 4 tithables 1 black (16+) 9 horses May 17 Mayberry, Joseph 1 tithable Jun 6 Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 hourse Jun 9 Pennybacker, Derrick 5 tithables 1 black (16+) 18 horses 1797 May 20--[Capt.3] Pennybaker, Benj. 9 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 9 horses May 15--[Capt.1] Mayberry, Joseph 1 tithable (all entries marked out) May 20--[Capt.3] Mayberry, Joseph 1 tithable 1798 Jun 1-- [Capt.3] Pennybacker, Benj. 7 white males (16+) 2 blacks (16+) 9 horses Oct 24-- [Capt.6] Ruddle, Isaac 2 tithables 1 black (12-16) 5 horses [Capt.6] Ruddle, George 1 tithable 2 horses Nov. 20 [Capt.1] Ruddle, George 1 tithable May 3 [Capt.3] Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 4 horses May 3 [Capt.3] Snelling, Charles 1 tithable May 3 [Capt.3] Pennybaker, Derick 3 tithables 6 horses 1799 Apr. 24 Pennybacker, John 1 tithable (16+) Jun 17 Pennybacker, Abraham 1 tithable 1 horse Jun 17 Pennybacker, Derick 2 tithables (16+) 2 blacks (16+) 8 horses Sept 9 [Capt.3] Pennybacker, Benj. 5 tithables 5 blacks (16+) 10 horses May 18 [Capt.3] Samuels, Isaac 1 tithable 1 horse July 3 [Capt.3] Bird, George 2 tithables, 1 black (16+) 14 horses July 6 [Capt.3] Bird, John 2 tithables 7 horses July 6 [Capt.3] Bird, Peter 2 tithables 2 horses Oct. 23 [Capt.5] Bird, Andrew 1 tithable 2 horses Jun 9 [Capt.2] Bird, William 2 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 1 black (12-16) 6 horses Aug 4 [Capt.3] Bird, Peter 3 tithables 2 horses Oct 22 [Capt.3] Bird, John 2 titables 6 horses 1800 Captains: 1 Isaac Gore 2 Wm. Bird 3 John Huff 4 Geo. Rinker 5 Christian Hoffman Apr.10 Abraham Pennybacker 1 tithable " " John Pennybacker 1 tithable " " Derrick Pennybacker 1 tithable 1 black (12-16) 5 horses [three men above on Wm. Jennings' list] C-2 Mar. 21 Peter Bird 1 tithables 3 horses C-3 Mar 12 George Bird 2 tithables 1 black (16+) 11 horses C-3 Apr. 4 John Bird 2 tithables 7 horses C-3 Jun 6 Wm. Bird 3 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 7 horses C-5 May 10 Andrew Bird 1 tithable 4 horses C-5 Jun 9 Abraham Bird 1 tithable 2 blacks (16+) 7 horses C-3 Jun 7 Benj. Pennybacker 6 tithables 6 blacks (16+) 6 horses C-3 May 10 Isaac Samuels 1 tithable 1 black (12-16) 1 horse 1801 May 25 Pennybacker, Derrick 1 tithable 2 blacks (16+) 6 horses " " Pennybacker, John 1 tithable 2 horses " " Pennybacker, Abraham 1 tithable May 22 Samuels, Mayberry & Co. 5 tithables 11 blacks (16+) 1 black (12-16) 22 horses -- -- Snelling, Charles 1 tithable C-2 Apr 18 Bird, Peter 2 tithables 5 horses C-3 Mar 26 Bird, Mounce 2 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 8 horses C-3 " " Bird, Andrew 1 tithables 3 horses C-3 Apr 3 Bird, John 2 tithables 7 horses C-3 May 19 Bird, George 2 tithables 1 black (16+) 10 horses C-5 Mar 28 Bird, Abraham 3 tithables 2 blacks (16+) 6 horses Dirck Pennybacker and his family along with his, then or future, sons-in-law arrived in the Shenandoah Valley in 1783, as deposed by his son Benjamin in 1814: Chalkley, Lyman, Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia: Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County 1745-1, Dallas Public Library. "March, 1814, Benjamin Pennbacker, aged 53, deposes, ditto; was not in Shenandoah County in 1779; he first came in 1783." Prior to 1784, Dirck Pennybacker appeared on the tax rolls of Berks Co., Pa.: Berks Co., Union twp. 1767...Penebecker, Derick 230 ac. 4 horses, 2 cattle, 7 sheep, 16 tax Berks Co., Amity twp. 1768...Pennybaker, Derick miller Berks Co. Amity twp. 1779...Pannebecker, Derick gristmill Berks Co., Amity twp. 1780...Pannebecker, Derick Berks Co., Amity twp. 1781...Pannebecker, Derrick gristmill [list missing for 1782-83] Berks Co., Amity twp. 1784...Pannebaker, Ditrich...[gristmill is on tax list with 200 ac. but shows him to have no horses, cattle, sheep, negroes, or family members.] Berks Co., Amity twp. 1785...Dirck Pennybacker does not appear on the list In May of 1783, Dirck Pennybacker's gristmill tract in Berks Co., Pa, which he had purchased from Mark Bird 3 Feb. 1770, was seized and sold for debt at a sheriff's sale. Source: Berks County, Pennsylvania Deed Books, v. 70, p. 399-400 Deed Poll "To all people to whom these presents shall com I Philip Kremer Esquire high Sheriff of Berks County in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Send Greetings Whereas by a writ of scire facias [that you cause to know] bearing Test the Seventeenth day of May Anno Domini one thousand and seven hundred and eighty three issuing out of the Court of Common Pleas of said County I was commanded that of the goods and Chattels Lands & Tenaments of Derrick Pannybecker late of Amity Township & Berks County afs. Yeoman in my Bailiwick I should cause to be levied, as well a certain debt of nine hundred and twelve Pounds in Gold or silver money which John Kirlin and Henry Lehr lately in the County Court of Common Pleas of the County of Berks before the Justices at Reading recovered against him as two Pounds eleven shillings and three pence like Money which the said John & Henry in the said Court were adjudged for their damages which they sustained by occasion of the detention of that debt, as for! their Costs & charges by them in & about there said in that behalf expended, whereof the said Derrick Pannybecker was convicted as appears of Record And that I should have that Money before the Justices at Reading at the County Court of Common Pleas thereto be held for the County of Berks the twelfth day of August this next to render unto the said John & Henry for their debt & damages aforesaid." It may noted that as of 17 May 1783, Dirck Pennybacker was referred to as "late of Amity Township & Berks County." Tradition holds that the Pennybackers made a brief stopover in Washington County, Md., near Sharpsburg, where they leased a furnace from the Hughes family. This operation was destroyed shortly thereafter and they moved on to Virginia. In support of this tradition are two pieces of evidence: Benjamin Pennybacker served in the Select Militia of Washington County (unit formed in 1781) under Capt. Adam Ott in 1783 and Isaac Samuels witnessed a deed there in 1783. Western Maryland Genealogy, v. 3, #4, Oct. 1987, p. 184 Washington county deeds...Michael Didenaver of Washington Co. to Isaac Bachtel of Washington Co. for �19.9: list of goods not in deed. Witness: Isaac Samuels 15 Feb.; recorded 28 Feb. 1783 (p. 243-4)." Library of Virginia: Digital Library Program, Library of Virginia Land Records, Northern Neck Land Grants, Grants Z: 1796-1802, p. 71-72 ...by virtue of a land office Treasury warrant Number eight thousand seven hundred and forty afsaid the ninth day of November one thousand seven hundred and eighty one, There is Granted by the said Commonwealth unto Derick Pennybaker A certain tract or parcel of land containing three hundred and ninety five acres by survey bearing date the twenty-sixth day of October one thousand seven hundred and ninety-nine lying and being in the County of Shenandoah... Survey Book 5, 1796-1802, p. 516 By virtue of a land Office Treasury warrant No. 8740 bearing date of 9th day of November 1781 for 2000 acres of land obtained by David Leitch part thereof being entered on my books by Benjamin Horner who assigns the same to Derrick Pennybacker. I have surveyed for the said Derick Pennybacker assignee of Benjamin Horner assignee of Robert Pollard assignee of William Harris Junr' executor of William McKensie dec'd who was assignee of said David Leitch (agreeable to his location made the 12th day of Dec. 1783) a certain tract or parcel of land containing three hundred and ninety five acres lying and being in the county of Shenandoah�.[as described in the grant above] [Note: Dirck agreed to the location of the land surveyed for him in Shenandoah County on 12 Dec. 1783.] That they were at Pine Forge by October 1784 is evidenced by a letter written from that place by Dirck Pennybacker to his brother Jacob regarding their father's death which occurred 14 June 1784: To Jacob Pennybacker Pine Forge October 16, 1784 My advice to you is to Make Sale of the place at any Time when it Suits you but I shall be willing to Make a Sale at any time when Required wich you may Rely on. I will be down in the Spring and expect whe can settle without any farder cost. Any farder I have Nottien to Rite as whe are all well at present. Hoping thes Lines wil find you all in the Same. I Remember my Kind Love to you all spesly to Mother. If the winter should prove faberel [favorable? ] it is Likele I shall be down abought the first of January. Derick Pennybacker I should be willing if there could be some Money made up for Samul for I Expect he must want it as he has had Nottien of the Estate yet. [as transcribed by Gov. Samuel W. Pennypacker ca 1877; the letter in question was in his possession at that time] Sherry Johnson Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:47:49 EDT From: Chocybrown@aol.com To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS Shenandoah County, Virginia Department of Taxation Personal Property Tax Lists 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond Microfilm Reel #315 September 11, 2003 "Requested Look-ups" 1782 All the "P's" are not readable. No Pennybackers Many of the "S's" are too light to read. 1783 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1784 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1785 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1786 No Penny Backers No Samuels This does not mean there were none of the above listed on the lists. It only means I do not have a copy of a page with that name on it. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

I hope everything goes well for mother and child, and you will have a wonderful new grandchild to spoil. There is nothing like it in this world. We can indulge the grandchildren, whereas if we treated our children that way, we would be spoiling them. I have grandsons and granddaughters, and they are each unique human beings. Blessings on your family. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Runyon" <norman@runyon.com> To: <cad@friendlynet.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS - OOPS! Carol, Thanks, we are looking forward to the birth (January). Actually, however the baby is a boy and his name is Gabriel Thomas Schultz. Rose is my wife - who accidently clicked "reply" on the wrong letter when she intended to reply to our daughter Katrina's letter. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Digby" <cad@friendlynet.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Fw: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS - OOPS! > Hey, no problem! Congratulations on the new grandchild. I like the name > Gabrielle Rose. It is lovely. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norman Runyon" <norman@runyon.com> > To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS - OOPS! > > > Sorry about the letter that got sent to our group by accident - instead of > to our daughter. > Norman > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > >

Hey, no problem! Congratulations on the new grandchild. I like the name Gabrielle Rose. It is lovely. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Runyon" <norman@runyon.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS - OOPS! Sorry about the letter that got sent to our group by accident - instead of to our daughter. Norman ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Sorry about the letter that got sent to our group by accident - instead of to our daughter. Norman

HUH?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Runyon" <norman@runyon.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS Tom, Katrina & Gabriel, I saw the pictures just before I left to go to the hospital for the Fallfest. I was home only 5 minutes before Heather and Logan came. I was going to call you when I first saw the pictures but I didn't think you would want me to call you at 8 this morning. HE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I am SO happy for you!!! I told dad last night that you said he is "perfect." Dad said, "Did you tell her that we would want him even if he weren't?" Awwwwhhhhhh........ I want the video. I want everything!!! I'd like to make a scrapbook of my own of my grandbabies. I think you should name him Gabriel Rose. That way, I can make sure of getting my namesake in case you have all boys. Heather and I worked in the barn this afternoon. We have SO MUCH stuff out there. Hope to get rid of most of it next weekend. Dad leaves to go camping with the men from church tomorrow afternoon. He won't be back til sometime on Sunday. He's leaving me ALONE for 2 nights. Bbaaawwwlllllll! I'm scared of the dark, too!!! Anyway, gotta go work some more on the barn. A friend from the hospital is coming over tonight to help get her stuff marked. I want EVERYTHING marked by next Wednesday so I don't have a lot of last minute things to do. I will be taking Gabe's pictures (yes, all 3 of them) with me this weekend and showing him off to everyone!! Take care. Once again, he's BEAUTIFUL!!!! Love ya, MOm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS > > Shenandoah County, Virginia > Department of Taxation > Personal Property Tax Lists > 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond > Microfilm Reel #315 > > September 11, 2003 > "Requested Look-ups" > > 1782 > All the "P's" are not readable. > No Pennybackers > Many of the "S's" are too light to read. > > 1783 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1784 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1785 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1786 > No Penny Backers > No Samuels > > This does not mean there were none of the above listed on the lists. It only > means I do not have a copy of a page with that name on it. > > > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Tom, Katrina & Gabriel, I saw the pictures just before I left to go to the hospital for the Fallfest. I was home only 5 minutes before Heather and Logan came. I was going to call you when I first saw the pictures but I didn't think you would want me to call you at 8 this morning. HE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!! I am SO happy for you!!! I told dad last night that you said he is "perfect." Dad said, "Did you tell her that we would want him even if he weren't?" Awwwwhhhhhh........ I want the video. I want everything!!! I'd like to make a scrapbook of my own of my grandbabies. I think you should name him Gabriel Rose. That way, I can make sure of getting my namesake in case you have all boys. Heather and I worked in the barn this afternoon. We have SO MUCH stuff out there. Hope to get rid of most of it next weekend. Dad leaves to go camping with the men from church tomorrow afternoon. He won't be back til sometime on Sunday. He's leaving me ALONE for 2 nights. Bbaaawwwlllllll! I'm scared of the dark, too!!! Anyway, gotta go work some more on the barn. A friend from the hospital is coming over tonight to help get her stuff marked. I want EVERYTHING marked by next Wednesday so I don't have a lot of last minute things to do. I will be taking Gabe's pictures (yes, all 3 of them) with me this weekend and showing him off to everyone!! Take care. Once again, he's BEAUTIFUL!!!! Love ya, MOm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Chocybrown@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] PENNYBACKER/SAMUELS > > Shenandoah County, Virginia > Department of Taxation > Personal Property Tax Lists > 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond > Microfilm Reel #315 > > September 11, 2003 > "Requested Look-ups" > > 1782 > All the "P's" are not readable. > No Pennybackers > Many of the "S's" are too light to read. > > 1783 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1784 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1785 > No Pennybackers > No Samuels > > 1786 > No Penny Backers > No Samuels > > This does not mean there were none of the above listed on the lists. It only > means I do not have a copy of a page with that name on it. > > > > > > > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

Shenandoah County, Virginia Department of Taxation Personal Property Tax Lists 1782-1799 Library of Virginia at Richmond Microfilm Reel #315 September 11, 2003 "Requested Look-ups" 1782 All the "P's" are not readable. No Pennybackers Many of the "S's" are too light to read. 1783 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1784 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1785 No Pennybackers No Samuels 1786 No Penny Backers No Samuels This does not mean there were none of the above listed on the lists. It only means I do not have a copy of a page with that name on it.

Hi, Are you researching any Ridenour families in Frederick County, ------------Cedar Creek, Virginia ???...........Pauline Reckley Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: <BCYIII@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:53 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] CLEM'S and RIDENOUR Ft Valley to Ohio > Samuel Clem in Shenandoah Co., VA m 3-29-1827 Susannah Ridenour. In 1828 he > moved to with his family to Tuscarawas Co., OH. In 1834 he moved to Champaign > Co., OH there until 1841 he then bought land in Monroe Township Allen Co, > Indiana. There were eight children, Andrew, Sarah, Melinda, William, David, > Samuel, Adam and Henry. > > > Bruce C Young III > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

I am searching for inforamtion on Catherine Weaver miller, married to Abraham Miller, and i also would like to know where George M. Bean is buried in Shenandoah Valley. Thanks for any help. Carol

All the lists are quiet today. ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Digby To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Am I hooked Am i still connected to Vashenan? I haven't had any transactions for some time now. Carol ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

I got your email in Ohio Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Digby" <cad@friendlynet.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Am I hooked > Am i still connected to Vashenan? I haven't had any transactions for some time now. Carol > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > >

Am i still connected to Vashenan? I haven't had any transactions for some time now. Carol

In 1776 Moses Henry lived at Flint Run, Shenandoah Co., VA when he enlisted in the Rev. War according to his pension file. Does anyone know if there is still a Flint Run or if it is now named something else? If it still exist, what part of the county is it in? I'd like to look it up on a map. Thanks.

Does anyone know if/where there may be maps of the colonies, counties, and/or territories as they were in the 1775 -1800 time period. Thanks.