Norman, Usually, when you see the tax actually computed as part of the list, the poll tax will not be part of that. I don't fully understand the use of, or the making of, these lists. I will try to find some examples and see if I am sure I understand this. Do you have any names around 1800 that I could look at? If not, I'll just pick some people I might recognize. Tom Norman Runyon wrote: >Tom, > Thank you for your reply. That clears up part of my wondering. > The reason I posted the query is 3-fold: >1: I have found elderly men where the record said 0 tithables but they >did have horses and they did pay tax on the horses. I do not know the >phsical condition of the men. >2: I have found young men where they were listed as 1 tithable but 0 >horses and paid no tax. >3: I have found women heads of households listed with 0 tithables but >with horses and they paid tax on the horses. > In most (not all) of the VA Personal Property Tax Records, that I have >read, the tax seemed only to be on the livestock and not the on "tithable" >individuals. Sometimes cattle, and/or other goods, were included in the tax. >These were all VA Personal Property Tax records between 1782 and 1830. > Norman > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Pierce" <tvpierce@infionline.net> >To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:05 PM >Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Re: PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST-SHENANDOAH CO., VA > > > > >>Norman, >>Most people who were subject to militia service were also tithables, but >>not vice-versa. A tithable was a person, sometimes 21 but usually 16, >>who was subject to the poll tax to support the parish prior to the >>Revolution and the County thereafter (I'm not certain of the exact date >>of transition, but 1782 would be a fair guess). >>In the time period 1782-1786 (please don't take this to mean it was done >>differently before 1782 - it's just that evidence is scant), it appears >>the local magistrate, or someone in a similar capacity, gathered the tax >>lists. Those lists were taken by districts which were probably >>magisterial districts. Beginning in 1787, the tax collection was >>handled by area corresponding to the militia regimental area. It is >>quite possible that, in many instances, the magisterial districts >>coincided at least roughly with militia company areas. >>It was up to the County Court to excuse folks from the levy, except for >>constables, Peter Muhlenberg, and (I'm told) state officials, who were >>at times exempted by law. Obviously, if one were old and infirm, or >>perhaps one-legged from Revolutionary service, then the County Court >>would be likely to give an exemption since that person would be unable >>to easily make payment. >> >>Tom >> >>Norman Runyon wrote: >> >> >> >>>Tithable Questions: >>> I understand that a person who is called a "Tithable" on the personal >>>property tax lists is, generally, considered to be any able bodied adult >>>male age 21 or older? >>> Usually, the tax district is described as a "Militia District" so I >>>assume that means the persons listed as "Tithables" are those subject to >>>callup for militia duty? >>> I have been going over several Personal Property Tax Lists where some >>> >>> >of > > >>>the older adult males are listed as "0 Tithables" - although they are >>> >>> >still > > >>>taxed for their horses. >>> In this case would "0 Tithables" mean that they are considered too >>> >>> >old > > >>>for militia service? >>> Or, perhaps, physically unable to perform militia service? >>> Was there an upper age limit for which an adult male would no longer >>> >>> >be > > >>>considered a "Tithable"? >>>Norman >>> >>> >>>==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>>To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or >>> >>> >VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >>Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >> >> >> >> > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. > > > >

Hi Dell, Thank you for your response. Actually, Runion Creek was originally known as Tunis Creek. My ancestor John Runyon obtained land along Tunis Creek on 13 Dec 1753 when that area was still part of Augusta County. The Runyon family has lived along Tunis Creek ever since. John died there in 1830 and, within a few years after that, 3 of his 4 sons moved to Ohio. Almost all of the family who left VA still retain the Runyon spelling but his son Anderson's family remained in "Brocks Gap" and over the next 20 to 30 years their spelling of the family name gradually evolved into Runion. (Some who went to Hardy Co., WV even evolved to Runions.) If you find really old maps you will find the name Tunis Creek but, due to the fact that most of the people living along it were named Runion, the name ended up changing to Runion Creek. I don't have a time frame on that. My best guess is that a Holland Dutchman migrated to that area sometime before 1753. Most likely he would have come from New York (formerly New Amsterdam) or New Jersey. He must have been one of the 1st settlers there for the village, and the creek that ran by it, to have been named after him -even though the creek starts somewhere in Shenandoah County. I was hoping someone would know who he was. Perhaps early land records would help identify him. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "DELLIEMER QUICK" <jddquick@msn.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:20 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Tunis village > Hi Norman, > That village of Tunis sure seems to be in the same neck of the woods as where my ancestor Tunis Quick Senior lived. I would sure like to know the village name's origin too! > The name Tunis does have a Holland Dutch origin. In my family, an English ancestor (speculative) was Anthony Quick, whose first name became Thennis|Theunis in Dutch when he went to Holland. Descendants of his in Holland migrated to America (more definitely known), bringing Dutch customs. Theunis|Tunis seems to have been one of the most popular names in the Quick family for 200 years. Tunis was used by many other Holland Dutch families, also, though. > My Tunis Quick Senior lived in Shenandoah County 1794-1815 (his land straddled the Shenandoah Co./Rockingham Co. boundary, but I do not yet have an exact location, which I plan to find). His sons were in the area various years. His son Tunis Junior (brother of my ancestor James) seems to have been around the area more than the other brothers. For example, there is record of marriage of Tunis Quick (I guess Junior; it would be a second marriage) in Rockingham County in 1811, and his name is in the sale documents of his father's estate. > Even without an answer to the origin of the village Tunis's name, I am intrigued by the question, because it is exciting to wonder about. Thanks very much for bringing it up and providing the great location description! > By the way do you know the origin of the name Runion Creek? That's close to your last name! > Yours truly, > Dell

Hi Bev, I know there are so many different naming patterns depending on the country of origin and the families tradition. The website, I believe Elaine gave, was really good about the different points. Diane's family, the HENRYS, married into my RITTER/RUTTER family twice in the early years. I don't know what country the HENRYS were from but my family were probable Dutch-German per some clue we have; however, the family of Stephen A. and Mary "Polly" (Ritter) Ritter did name their 3rd son and daughter after themselves. Their 5th son was named after Mary's father, Henry. We don't know the names of Stephen's lineage. But we do have all of Stephen's children and they too named their 3rd son and daughter after their parents and their first child after Stephen. I have a number of the early Ritter families children and most of them did as Stephen and Mary "Polly" Ritter did----------so, I thought it was a possible---------BUT, there is really no way of knowing until you find that document! I do think it helps in your search to be aware that because of naming patterns you will find the same given name over and over again in the same family and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Best regards, Chocy

Chocy - Often the second son was named after the Mother's father - then they went into grandfathers. And some families named the first son after the father, second after father's father, thirds after mother's father. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VASHENAN] Naming Patterns Date: 9/16/2003 12:50:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:Chocybrown@aol.com">Chocybrown@aol.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Diane, The naming pattern seems to be: 1. 1st son named after the father's father. 2. 2nd son named after the father's grandfather 3. 3rd son named after the father. For sure in the Ritter family, the 3rd son and 3rd daughter, were named after the father and mother. Stephen Ritter had 6 sons and 3 daughters between 1812 & 1835----------Right there you have 7 Stephen. Chocy ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

John Hup was the Captain number 3, which I have assumed to mean of the 3rd Company of the 13th Militia Regt. That was the folks in at least the eastern side of what is now Ashby District. It is not clear to me how far west the Company area extended, but I think it went out to Cabin Hill at least. Tom Joyce Franke wrote: >Sherry has so nicely given us these tax records. I see a John HUPP in 1793 >as a captain of what exactly? John is not my ancestor, but his brother, >Samuel, is, if this is the right family! > >Joyce > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Johnson Sherry" <sherrjoh7@yahoo.com> >To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > >>Here are some tax records from notes I made several years ago. I'm not >> >> >sure whether the term used was taxables or tithables. I do not have copies >of the pages, just these names that I extracted from the microfilm copies. > > >>Personal Property Tax Rolls (mf #89) Shenandoah Co., Va. >>Dallas Public Library, Dallas, TX >> >>1784 -- -Mayberry, Pennybacker, Samuels >> snip >> >> > > > >>1793 Capt. 1=Isaac Goare Capt. 2= Wm. Bird >> Capt. 3=John Hupp Capt. 5=Christian Hoffman >> [Sorry, I appear to have missed Capt. 6's identity] >> Jun 11 -- Penebaker, Dedrick 12 tithables, 1 black (16+) 1 >> >> >black (12-16) 13 horses... > > >> Jun 11 -- Penabaker, Benjamin 3 tithables 9 horses... >> Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse >> July 25-- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Geo. Mayberry, Charles >> >> >Taylor, Jno. Doyle, Henry Painter, Edward Evans} 6 tithables 6 horses... > > >>1794 >> >> >snip > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >

Here is a good source for more on naming patterns... as there were several... depending upon nationality, time period, etc. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/naming.htm Elaine

Diane, Only the white male tithable over 21 were listed unless a widow or single woman was in charge of the house and she would only be listed if she had something taxable such as a horse or cattle. She, herself, did not pay a tax on herself since she was not a male. Therefore, there is no way to know who the females were unless there was a special circumstance. Chocy

Diane, The naming pattern seems to be: 1. 1st son named after the father's father. 2. 2nd son named after the father's grandfather 3. 3rd son named after the father. For sure in the Ritter family, the 3rd son and 3rd daughter, were named after the father and mother. Stephen Ritter had 6 sons and 3 daughters between 1812 & 1835----------Right there you have 7 Stephen. Chocy

Listers, On one of the personal property tax lists, I sent you, will find the names of the Captains on Youngs list (he seems to be the only one who used them). The number beside the name is the name of the Captain for Young (Commissioner) who took the tax information. Chocy

What a great site! Lots of good info there. I have marked it as a favorite! Joyce Subject: [VASHENAN] Several different naming patterns > Here is a good source for more on naming patterns... as there were several... depending upon nationality, time period, etc. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hornbeck/naming.htm > > Elaine

Wow, thanks for the insight. Just in case it wasn't confusing enough they throw us another curve - just keeps it interesting I guess. I appreciate the info. This type of info may very well of kept me from going down the wrong track for some time just to be disappointed. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:54 AM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] 1780 - 1800 Divorces Hello diane.kittle@voyager.net, In reference to your comment: è Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. ________________________ You cannot assume this. In those days Jr/Sr merely meant there were 2 people with the same name in the neighborhood. To make matters worse, when Sr died, Jr took the name Sr - especially if there was yet another one of the same name around there! I was very confused about a Sr's will for sometime before I realized I had the wills of 2 different men - both identified as Sr! Likewise a 'sister' could mean a sister in the church or organization - and 'brother' can mean Masonic brother, and nieces and nephews were often identified as cousins. Today's terminology cannot be assumed to be true in the old days. BEv ========Original Message======== Subj: [VASHENAN] 1780 - 1800 Divorces Date: 9/16/2003 1:56:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:diane.kittle@voyager.net">diane.kittle@voyager.net</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Does anyone know if divorce records for the 1780 to 1800 time period for Shenandoah Co. are available anywhere? 1788 - A Moses Henry was enumerated in the 1788 tax list close to a Susannah Henry. 1790 - Moses Henry, son of Susannah, married Nellie Humes. 1794 - Thomas Humes conveyed 100 acres to Moses Henry Jr. and his wife Eleanor Humes (Guessing this is "Nellie"?) 1798 - Moses Henry Jr. was enumerated in the 1798 tax list. 1798 - Moses Henry married Martha Manery 1799 - Moses Henry and Moses Henry Jr. were both enumerated in the 1798 tax list separately Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. If this is an incorrect assumption, someone please let me know that the practice then was different than it is today. If Moses Jr. was the son of Susannah yet Moses Sr. was alive I'm guessing it is possible that Susannah was also the wife of Moses Sr. but not living with him and/or divorced. Someone stop me if I'm way off base here. Just in case this is a possibility I would like to see if there is a record of the divorce if they are available anywhere. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Folks, Via another source I was told that the 1786 - 1796 tax rolls for Shenandoah Co. included all the adult members in the house. Therefore, maybe the Moses below was not divored from Susannah but residing with her, not next to her. Has anyone else discovered it to be fact that all adults in the household were enumerated during those years? Diane -----Original Message----- From: Diane Kittle [mailto:diane.kittle@voyager.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:56 AM To: 'VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: 1780 - 1800 Divorces Does anyone know if divorce records for the 1780 to 1800 time period for Shenandoah Co. are available anywhere? 1788 - A Moses Henry was enumerated in the 1788 tax list close to a Susannah Henry. 1790 - Moses Henry, son of Susannah, married Nellie Humes. 1794 - Thomas Humes conveyed 100 acres to Moses Henry Jr. and his wife Eleanor Humes (Guessing this is "Nellie"?) 1798 - Moses Henry Jr. was enumerated in the 1798 tax list. 1798 - Moses Henry married Martha Manery 1799 - Moses Henry and Moses Henry Jr. were both enumerated in the 1798 tax list separately Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. If this is an incorrect assumption, someone please let me know that the practice then was different than it is today. If Moses Jr. was the son of Susannah yet Moses Sr. was alive I'm guessing it is possible that Susannah was also the wife of Moses Sr. but not living with him and/or divorced. Someone stop me if I'm way off base here. Just in case this is a possibility I would like to see if there is a record of the divorce if they are available anywhere. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Hello diane.kittle@voyager.net, In reference to your comment: è Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. ________________________ You cannot assume this. In those days Jr/Sr merely meant there were 2 people with the same name in the neighborhood. To make matters worse, when Sr died, Jr took the name Sr - especially if there was yet another one of the same name around there! I was very confused about a Sr's will for sometime before I realized I had the wills of 2 different men - both identified as Sr! Likewise a 'sister' could mean a sister in the church or organization - and 'brother' can mean Masonic brother, and nieces and nephews were often identified as cousins. Today's terminology cannot be assumed to be true in the old days. BEv ========Original Message======== Subj: [VASHENAN] 1780 - 1800 Divorces Date: 9/16/2003 1:56:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:diane.kittle@voyager.net">diane.kittle@voyager.net</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com">VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Does anyone know if divorce records for the 1780 to 1800 time period for Shenandoah Co. are available anywhere? 1788 - A Moses Henry was enumerated in the 1788 tax list close to a Susannah Henry. 1790 - Moses Henry, son of Susannah, married Nellie Humes. 1794 - Thomas Humes conveyed 100 acres to Moses Henry Jr. and his wife Eleanor Humes (Guessing this is "Nellie"?) 1798 - Moses Henry Jr. was enumerated in the 1798 tax list. 1798 - Moses Henry married Martha Manery 1799 - Moses Henry and Moses Henry Jr. were both enumerated in the 1798 tax list separately Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. If this is an incorrect assumption, someone please let me know that the practice then was different than it is today. If Moses Jr. was the son of Susannah yet Moses Sr. was alive I'm guessing it is possible that Susannah was also the wife of Moses Sr. but not living with him and/or divorced. Someone stop me if I'm way off base here. Just in case this is a possibility I would like to see if there is a record of the divorce if they are available anywhere. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

Does anyone know if divorce records for the 1780 to 1800 time period for Shenandoah Co. are available anywhere? 1788 - A Moses Henry was enumerated in the 1788 tax list close to a Susannah Henry. 1790 - Moses Henry, son of Susannah, married Nellie Humes. 1794 - Thomas Humes conveyed 100 acres to Moses Henry Jr. and his wife Eleanor Humes (Guessing this is "Nellie"?) 1798 - Moses Henry Jr. was enumerated in the 1798 tax list. 1798 - Moses Henry married Martha Manery 1799 - Moses Henry and Moses Henry Jr. were both enumerated in the 1798 tax list separately Since there are apparently two Moses's, a Moses (Sr. probably) and a Moses Jr., and I'm assuming that Jr. means the son of a Moses and not merely a younger Moses born to an individual with a name other than Moses. If this is an incorrect assumption, someone please let me know that the practice then was different than it is today. If Moses Jr. was the son of Susannah yet Moses Sr. was alive I'm guessing it is possible that Susannah was also the wife of Moses Sr. but not living with him and/or divorced. Someone stop me if I'm way off base here. Just in case this is a possibility I would like to see if there is a record of the divorce if they are available anywhere. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Exactly what does the Capt.-1 stand for? I found that beside two of my Henry names and one of them is a female so it doesn't seem to make sense that it would be a military title. -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Franke [mailto:rjfranke@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:30 AM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [VASHENAN] HUPP in tax records Sherry has so nicely given us these tax records. I see a John HUPP in 1793 as a captain of what exactly? John is not my ancestor, but his brother, Samuel, is, if this is the right family! Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson Sherry" <sherrjoh7@yahoo.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Here are some tax records from notes I made several years ago. I'm not sure whether the term used was taxables or tithables. I do not have copies of the pages, just these names that I extracted from the microfilm copies. > > Personal Property Tax Rolls (mf #89) Shenandoah Co., Va. > Dallas Public Library, Dallas, TX > > 1784 -- -Mayberry, Pennybacker, Samuels > snip > > 1793 Capt. 1=Isaac Goare Capt. 2= Wm. Bird > Capt. 3=John Hupp Capt. 5=Christian Hoffman > [Sorry, I appear to have missed Capt. 6's identity] > Jun 11 -- Penebaker, Dedrick 12 tithables, 1 black (16+) 1 black (12-16) 13 horses... > Jun 11 -- Penabaker, Benjamin 3 tithables 9 horses... > Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse > July 25-- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Geo. Mayberry, Charles Taylor, Jno. Doyle, Henry Painter, Edward Evans} 6 tithables 6 horses... > > 1794 snip ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Aaron Henry married Harriet Rutter or Ritter Dec. 2, 1805. She was the daughter of Hezekiah Ritter/Rutter according to Shenandoah Co. marriages pg. 50. Is anyone researching the Rutter name? I'm actually researching the Henry name and think Aaron may be related to Moses Henry and the Samuel Henry listed in the 1783 Tax List for Shenandoah Co. and want to find out all I can about the family. I'm having difficulty connecting them and think that by researching additional family members it may be helpful. Strangely enough, I live outside of a village named St. Louisville in Ohio and it was founded by a Ritter.

Sherry has so nicely given us these tax records. I see a John HUPP in 1793 as a captain of what exactly? John is not my ancestor, but his brother, Samuel, is, if this is the right family! Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnson Sherry" <sherrjoh7@yahoo.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Here are some tax records from notes I made several years ago. I'm not sure whether the term used was taxables or tithables. I do not have copies of the pages, just these names that I extracted from the microfilm copies. > > Personal Property Tax Rolls (mf #89) Shenandoah Co., Va. > Dallas Public Library, Dallas, TX > > 1784 -- -Mayberry, Pennybacker, Samuels > snip > > 1793 Capt. 1=Isaac Goare Capt. 2= Wm. Bird > Capt. 3=John Hupp Capt. 5=Christian Hoffman > [Sorry, I appear to have missed Capt. 6's identity] > Jun 11 -- Penebaker, Dedrick 12 tithables, 1 black (16+) 1 black (12-16) 13 horses... > Jun 11 -- Penabaker, Benjamin 3 tithables 9 horses... > Samuels, Joseph 1 tithable 1 horse > July 25-- Samuels, Isaac {Isaac Samuels, Geo. Mayberry, Charles Taylor, Jno. Doyle, Henry Painter, Edward Evans} 6 tithables 6 horses... > > 1794 snip

Rick I think you SHOULD run for CA Gov...... everyone else is! At least you guys are making our Florida 2000 race look like child's play. LOL P ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rickmonroe67@wmconnect.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] LETTER WITH MANY NAMES > >From "THE FREE PRESS", Sept 4, 2003 edition, "Pages from newspapers past". > > Feb. 22, 1889 > > "Letter about old New Market. Messrs. Editors.-Having lived at your place > and being one of the older citizens, I often think of , and call to mind, the > following names of many of the older citizens of your place, and now put them on > record for future generations, as: > > William Wickes, wheelwright; Peter Windle, blacksmith; James McCann, > furniture maker; Watson Alman, son of William; Samuel Tidler, hatter, the > doctors were Solomon Henkel, John W. Rice, S. G. Henkel, S. P. C. Henkel, Neff > and Allen; the preachers were Revs. Paul Henkel, Ambrose Henkel, J. Stirewalt > and Oswalt; George Cring, watch maker; Philip Pitman, hotel keeper; Jacob > Sommers, tinner; the merchants were Coffman, Strayer, the Henkels, Neff, &c.; > Jacob Savage, hotel keeper, hatter and tanner; Joseph Little, shoemaker; > James Charlton, saddler; John Gay, tailor; A. Spreecher, tanner; Francis > Sibert, saddler; T. Read, tailor; John Kiggs, hotel keeper; Martin Myers, > shoe-maker; Samuel Huston, saddler; John Coffman, weaver; Pat. McMannas, > merchant; John Shomo, carpenter; Anthony Duf, garener; Jessie Spencer, laborer; > Bodells, saddle tree makers; Christ Adams; Mrs. Day; Samuel Spitzer, gun > smith; Elijah Moore, mason; Granny Shomo, cakes and beer; J. Sugars, tailor; > Theodore Jordan, carpenter; Daniel Shomo, gun smith; John Deppo, plasterer; > John Kipps, wagon store; Wm. Windle, smith; Adam Olinger, black smith; > John and Jacob Savage, farmers; and kept fine horses; the latter owned by > father; David Pence, tanner; Mrs. Frost, an old colored woman, whom they called > Granny Talmer; John Watkins, brickmaker; Joseph Charlton, shoe maker. Most > if not all, these have passed away. ..I love your place. It is my birthday; > I want to get back down to my old home before long. There is not one day that > I do not think of my old home. I was so well pleased when I was there last > time. Yours truly, William Monroe Strother, Wilkesbarre, Pa." > > > Rick Monroe > Long Beach, CA > (Not running for Governor) > > P.S.: I'm sure that in the above letter, Granny Shomo would have been my > favorite person!! > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html >

My ancestors, Joseph and Mary Hupp English, loved their old VA home so much that they named one of their daughters Virginia for it! She was my great grandmother! Joyce > Thank you so much for sharing! I really enjoyed the > letter--------somewhere my RITTER/RUTTER family married into the STROTHER family, but I haven't > researched that angle yet; however, I really enjoyed his feelings for his > beautiful Virginia home. > Chocy

Rick, Thank you so much for sharing! I really enjoyed the letter--------somewhere my RITTER/RUTTER family married into the STROTHER family, but I haven't researched that angle yet; however, I really enjoyed his feelings for his beautiful Virginia home. Chocy