Moses Henry Google LVA. Select The Library of Virginia. What we have. Land records. Virginia Land Office Patents and Grants/Northern Neck Grants and Surveys Enter Henry Moses in to the search window; click GO. When the list of hits shows go to the next page and see the answer to your question!! Click the square in front of the name. Click "Selected" to see the digitized land office card. At the top there is a link to the image of the grant and another to the survey. First slick the grant link. On the new window click "Click Here". On the next window click on the "document" and be patient! You will get the beginning of the grant. To print this page click your browser's print icon. Click options on the printer window and select "fit to page". After it prints. Hit the Go Back icon (<) the browser and you will be taken back to the "document" screen. Click the link to the next page on the top right of the list of pages. The next page will load. Print this page. Read careful what is written. The process was: 1. Warrant - right to the named quantity of land. 2. Entry - an order to a surveyor to survey a specific area of land (this amount was based on a warrant and could be the whole amount or a parcel from it. Many warrantees sold their warrant rights in various size tracts. When this was done it was called an assignment. The assignee was the new owner of the right to the named quantify of land. This happened at every step of the process until the survey had been sent to the Land Office for the grant to be written.( Before the grant is returned I have seen county court minutes where the Grantee had agreed to transfer title of the newly granted land to him to another when the grant is returned to the county. In this case the grantee has moving from the county to another state. 3. Survey by the surveyor of the "local" area. Survey was sent to the land office or Proprietors Office to have the land grant issued by the governors office. 4. The land grant (or patent) is written and returned to the surveyor's office to be delivered or picked up by the new grantee. Elijah Roye did not grant the 100a of land but for some consideration transferred the right of 100a on this named Treasury Warrant No. 765 ( probably Elijah Roye's) to Moses Henry. While a transfer is a transfer! The kind of transfer has its specific "name" and relates exactly to a step as defined by legislative acts. The paperwork follows and allows us to know exactly who had what rights, how & when. Your guy paid something to Elijah Roye for the right to the 100a. This grant language does not tell who had the right to make the entry or request the survey. Entries had recording fees and surveys were not free. Do back to the digitized card screen and click on the survey image and see what other information it relates. Watch the dates as this may indicate when your guy was in the area at that time. Read the survey carefully. The language is very clear and means just what it says! The warrant was for 650A to Elijah Roye who had selected the area for this 100a to be entered and surveyed. He assigned the survey to your guy. The assignment paper may indicate that Elijah did not live near or could not easily get to the surveyors office where his warrant was being held. If he had sent the warrant at that particular time, he would most likely written the assignment on the back of his warrant. This assignment note does not appear to be the back of a warrant. Warrants were more square like documents. NOTE: 3 men signed the original assignment note which appears to be transcribed. You are looking at images of a recording book and not original documents. The original survey and the assignment note may be in possession of LVA in Virginia Land Office Plats & Certificates. However, the warrant may not have been returned until the last survey from this warrant was sent to the land office. One needs to know to whom the last allowable acreage was granted to find the warrant. These documents are filed by alpha & year. In this case H 1797 From the website: "All of the documents that accompanied the patents, including warrants and surveys, were annually destroyed prior to 1779. Some counties (created both before and after 1779) have survey books among their records." Great website! Enjoy it! Phyllis Vannoy Spiker

According to "A to Zax", to grant means to sell, convey or donate. Without the original papers, you can't tell which it was. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VASHENAN] Moses & Elizabeth Henry Date: 1/15/2004 7:02:05 PM Eastern Standard Time From: diane.kittle@voyager.net To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) According to the land records in the VA Library a Moses Henry and wife Elizabeth conveyed 100 acres of land (that was granted to them by Elijah Roye in 1797) to a Zachariah North of Ohio. Does anyone know of or have a record of a Moses Henry marrying an Elizabeth ??? prior to 1802? Also, when it states that Elijah Roye "granted" them 100 acres does this mean he sold it or conveyed it as one would to a relative? Any assistance would be great. Thanks. ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

According to the land records in the VA Library a Moses Henry and wife Elizabeth conveyed 100 acres of land (that was granted to them by Elijah Roye in 1797) to a Zachariah North of Ohio. Does anyone know of or have a record of a Moses Henry marrying an Elizabeth ??? prior to 1802? Also, when it states that Elijah Roye "granted" them 100 acres does this mean he sold it or conveyed it as one would to a relative? Any assistance would be great. Thanks.

I'm sure you've found this: 1920 Census; Montgomery Co, OH; Dayton twp; Pg. 1A; ED = 92; Image 0559 on Ancestry.com (Original image) CROWE, Harry, head, 32, m'd, VA VA VA; Woodworker, building Emma, wife, 33, b. OH OH OH Emmer, step son, 13, OH OH OH Louise? (Leona?) step dau, 14, OH OH OH Ralph, son, 7, Oh VA OH Thelma, dau, 3yrs, ?8mo's (Hard to read months.) OH VA OH Joseph, brother, VA VA VA, machinest, lathe Shirley > You should check those dates again. If Harry was born in 1890, he couldn't > have married Emma in 1889! Something is wrong. > > > In a message dated 01/04/2004 3:20:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Poetrywaif@comcast.net writes: > Dear Listers, > My biggest brickwall is with my own last name. LOL. Not a living relative > exists besides my father. So here is my quandry. My great grandfather was > Harry Edward Crowe, (maybe his real first name, maybe not) born in Virginia abt > 1890. He had a brother (maybe a cousin) Joseph. He and Joseph moved to Ohio > and Harry married my great grandmother Emma C. Ahlers b abt 1889. There was a > story that he was head of the Ohio numbers racket for the Detroit mob & that he > got killed/commited suicide somewhere around 1949. This is told to me by my > father, however, I cannot find a single death for him, I have tried every > variation of Harry & have even tried using the name of Edward as a possible first > name. My father also doesn't know if he really died at that time because he > didn't go to a funeral. He was just told that he died and was found in the > house. The only place I can find him existing, is on the census' for 1920 & 1930 > in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio. "Harry" had two step ! > children Leona & Elmer (Ahlers) Crowe, and two biological children Ralph > Edward Crowe & Thelma Crowe. I can find information on Joseph, I have his death > record, it shows his parents as being Samuel Crowe & Ida Gardner. Though on > the 1900 census they show up in Rockingham County, VA w/Joseph but not Harry. > Ancestry doesn't let you view this census as a picture, just as the names that > appear on there (one by one). The "e" is not present on their name at this > time. I know they are from the same family because of the page, roll, & line > numbers given for the individual. If any of this sounds familiar to anyone, I > would greatly appreciate the help. My father thinks they might have been from > the Roanoke/Rockingham areas of Virginia as he did go to visit relatives there > often. > Thank you kindly, > Erin T. Crowe > > > ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > Your support of RootsWeb helps make SHENANDOAH-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > ==== SHENANDOAH Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: crb@ponyexpress.net > List Adm for SHENANDOAH-L and SHENANDOAH-D > Now with over 725 subscribers! >

For more information on the hypothetical Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census for the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, and the lack of proof that Madley/Magdalena Bumgardner (various spelling) was the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr., go to the following postings on the Burner Family Genealogical Forum: http://genforum.genealogy.com/burner/messages/72.html http://genforum.genealogy.com/burner/messages/76.html http://genforum.genealogy.com/burner/messages/79.html Joe

As an adjunct of the 3 volumns is a pre-pay website that includes what would have been vol. 4 and further. The price is I believe $59.95, and you can pay through the mail, or on-line. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jwbake@aol.com> To: <VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Mennonite Census > In a message dated 1/7/2004 5:19:05 PM Central Standard Time, > 73644.1350@compuserve.com writes: > > > Be very cautious of this census. There was no 1750 Mennonite census of the > > Shenandoah area. As I recall, Mr Davis somewhat made up this census. > > Somewhere on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com there is a letter of how this > > so-called census came to be. I don't have the time right now to find it. > > > > I have got to ask.....is this Mennonite census only of Mennonites? And can > you give me a ISB number or something on this book so I can request it from > the library? > > > Neither volume of three volume set, "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners," by > Richard Warren Davis show IBS Numbers. They carry a Copyright notice and his > address as P. O. Box 50182, Prove, Utah 84605. Vol. III has the Reconstructed > 1750 Mennonite Census for Shenandoah Valley, Virginia. Presumably the census is > of Mennonites only. > > The books were offered for sale by Masthof Bookstore and Press > 220 Mill Road > Morgantown, PA 19543-9701 > Tel. 610-286-0258 > E-mail: mast@masthof.com > URL <http://www.masthof.com> > Vol. I has the catalog no. 1747, Vol. II 2010 and Vol. III 2306. > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >

Sally, One of my loose ends in Shenandoah County is John Andrews, though I am not actively pursuing him at the moment. I have absolutely no idea whether John might be related to William , but.. 1830 William Andrews 30-40 1 male 5-10 1 male under 5 1 female 30-40 1 female 10-15 1 female under 5 Names of family are not given in 1830 By the way, I have a little trouble reading the census, but I don't believe William is in Woodstock. He appears to be in the northern half of the county but that's all I can tell. Tom Alley wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Gudas [mailto:seatide@att.net] >Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:25 PM >To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: {not a subscriber} William Andrews > > >I found a William Andrews in the 1830 Census Index for Shenandoah Co., >Va. - Woodstock. > >If anyone has easy access to this census, I'd appreciate it if you >could tell me the names and ages of other persons living in this >household. > >Thanks very much for your help, > >Sally Andrews Gudas > > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >

Bev, I'm pretty sure they didn't have a son named Charles. I don't know about grandsons. Thanks, Tom Ms2001@aol.com wrote: >Tom - > >Did they have a son or grandson named Charles? One of my grandfather's >sisters and one of his half-sisters married a Charles Fenton in the 1800s and they >(first one wife then when she died, the second one) lived in Pleasant Hill, >MO. He was shot in the lung at Gettysburg and survived. They had a bunch of >kids (don't have time to look that up right now) and all are buried at the >Baptist Cemetery in Pleasant Hill. > >Bev > >========Original Message======== >Subj: [VASHENAN] Mathias Finter >Date: 1/9/2004 7:18:52 PM Eastern Standard Time >From: tvpierce@infionline.net >Reply-to: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > >Mathias Finter (Fenter/Finder/Fender) lived in what is now Marksville >District of Page County in the late 1700's. His wife's name was >Barbara. Does anyone know what her maiden name was? >Tom > > > >> >> >> >> > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== >Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html > > > >

-----Original Message----- From: Gudas [mailto:seatide@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:25 PM To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} William Andrews I found a William Andrews in the 1830 Census Index for Shenandoah Co., Va. - Woodstock. If anyone has easy access to this census, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me the names and ages of other persons living in this household. Thanks very much for your help, Sally Andrews Gudas

Tom - Did they have a son or grandson named Charles? One of my grandfather's sisters and one of his half-sisters married a Charles Fenton in the 1800s and they (first one wife then when she died, the second one) lived in Pleasant Hill, MO. He was shot in the lung at Gettysburg and survived. They had a bunch of kids (don't have time to look that up right now) and all are buried at the Baptist Cemetery in Pleasant Hill. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VASHENAN] Mathias Finter Date: 1/9/2004 7:18:52 PM Eastern Standard Time From: tvpierce@infionline.net Reply-to: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Mathias Finter (Fenter/Finder/Fender) lived in what is now Marksville District of Page County in the late 1700's. His wife's name was Barbara. Does anyone know what her maiden name was? Tom > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== Shenandoah Co VAGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html

Mathias Finter (Fenter/Finder/Fender) lived in what is now Marksville District of Page County in the late 1700's. His wife's name was Barbara. Does anyone know what her maiden name was? Tom > >

Hello all, Thanks to Mary Blackwell for contributing Miley family photos, which can be seen via the "Show Us Your Ancestors" page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/showus.html>. Next week, we'll be having a planning meeting for Shenandoah County Heritage Day on April 10, if you are interested in space for your family history display, please contact me at <dsilvius1@earthlink.net>. Thanks again to everyone for your willingness to share your information and contribute to genealogy in Shenandoah County. Don Don Silvius Co-coordinator Shenandoah County, Virginia GenWeb Project <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vashenan/vashenan.html> The 2nd annual Shenandoah County Heritage Day is Saturday April 10, 2004, at the Edinburg Fire Hall, Edinburg, VA, 11:00 am - 4:00 pm

In a message dated 1/7/2004 5:19:05 PM Central Standard Time, 73644.1350@compuserve.com writes: > Be very cautious of this census. There was no 1750 Mennonite census of the > Shenandoah area. As I recall, Mr Davis somewhat made up this census. > Somewhere on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com there is a letter of how this > so-called census came to be. I don't have the time right now to find it. > > I have got to ask.....is this Mennonite census only of Mennonites?  And can you give me a ISB number or something on this book so I can request it from the library? Neither volume of three volume set, "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners," by Richard Warren Davis show IBS Numbers. They carry a Copyright notice and his address as P. O. Box 50182, Prove, Utah 84605. Vol. III has the Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census for Shenandoah Valley, Virginia. Presumably the census is of Mennonites only. The books were offered for sale by Masthof Bookstore and Press 220 Mill Road Morgantown, PA 19543-9701 Tel. 610-286-0258 E-mail: mast@masthof.com URL <http://www.masthof.com> Vol. I has the catalog no. 1747, Vol. II 2010 and Vol. III 2306.

Following up on the recent maps discussion. . . Today, I checked the date of the segments copied from Boye's Map of Virginia. While the caption of the map in an article on Valley furnaces was noted as 1825, the map itself was 1825/1859. Lena Fuller found both versions of the maps at the LVA Map sites. Sandra

Be very cautious of this census. There was no 1750 Mennonite census of the Shenandoah area. As I recall, Mr Davis somewhat made up this census. Somewhere on Rootsweb or Ancestry.com there is a letter of how this so-called census came to be. I don't have the time right now to find it. Message text written by INTERNET:VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com >The > Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census of Shenandoah Valley - Massanutten Area: > Household 37: Jacob Borner, age 28, Madelena ,age 23, Michael age 2, Jacob, > Newborn. Household 38: John Baumgartner age 55, Mary age 19, John age 16, > Elizabeth age 14 and Christian age 12. This from "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners > Vol III" by Davis > Betty Carson I have got to ask.....is this Mennonite census only of Mennonites? And can you give me a ISB number or something on this book so I can request it from the library? Thank you so much - I was not aware of this source. Mary<

Since my post of "Wife of Jacob Burner, Jr.," there has been notes to the mailing list and to me dealing with the identification of the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr., and also concerning the 1750 Reconstructed Mennonite Census of the Shenandoah Valley including the Massanutten Area. As far as I can determine, the only primary reference that sheds any light on the identity on the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr., who was the mother of Jacob Burner, Jr., is found in John (Hans) Bumgardner's Augusta County Will. This will was written on March 22, 1751, and is recorded in Augusta County Will Book 1, pg. 332. John Bumgardner mentions his children: John, Christian, Mary, Elizabeth and Madley/Madlena. He also mentions Jacob Burner, his grandson, and nominates Jacob Burner, (Sr.) as an executor of his estate. It can thus be concluded that one of his daughters was the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr., and the mother of Jacob Burner, Jr., but the will does not identify which one. Since Jacob, Jr., was specifically mentioned as a legate in the will, perhaps his mother was no longer living. In 1999 Richard Warren Davis published Vol. III of "Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners" containing a Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census for the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, including the Massanutten area. Jacob Borner's Family was designated as Household 37 and John Baumgartner as Household 38 (pg. 6). He places Madlena (Baumgartner) Borner in Jacob Borner's household, indicating she was Jacob's wife. He presented similar information in Vol. II, pg. 61. I wrote Mr. Davis and asked him for the source of his information proving Madlena was the wife of Jacob, Sr. He checked his notes and confirmed that Jacob Burner had married a daughter of John Bumgardner, but was unable to find the source of information that identified her as Madlena. He speculated that someone may have sent this information to him. Over the years a number of persons in addition to Davis have reported without proof that Madlena Burmgardner was the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr. I believe I have found the origin of this information in the publication/manuscript, "A Man of the Bullpasture, John Hiner, 1742-1814, " written by Amanda Arbogast Forbes for the dedication of the John Hiner marker on June 12, 1966, in a small family cemetery near Doe Run. Va. I contacted the author for the source of her information that Madlena was the wife of Jacob Burner, Sr.  She stated her proof was inadequate and was based on a false assumption. Unfortunately, the information in her publication has been accepted as fact by many and continues to be circulated as such since then. In conclusion, I think we can say with certainty that Jacob Burner, Sr., married one of the daughters of John Bumgardner, but we do not know for sure which one. There is a possibility that Jacob Burner, Sr., was married more than once, but we have no proof for this. I continue to search for a primary reference or solid proof that identifies the daughter of John Bumgardner who married Jacob Burner, Sr. If anyone has this proof or any ideas, please post them or contact me directly. Perhaps I have missed an important reference. Joe Baker

In a message dated 1/7/2004 2:14:27 AM Central Standard Time, VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Can you tell me more about the book this is from? Is it still being > published? Do you know whether a microfilm copy exists of the > Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census for Shenandoah Valley? > I found the books in Salt Lake City. You can look at the catalog on line. I did find that they have them on film. Volume III of Emigrants, Refugees and Prisoners by Richard Warren Davis is on the following film available at a Family History Center FHL INTL Film --1224597 Item 10. This is the volume that contains the Mennonite census. Surely there are some copies of these books in libraries but I don't know where. I see that I also made a note that Vol I has 6 pages of Baumgartner information starting on page 68 with Hans b. ca 1520. And Vol II on page 61 has Madle Baumgartner, daughter of Hans, married to Jacob Burner, plus some other additions. Betty Carson

Thank you so much for your post! This is information I did not have. Can you tell me more about the book this is from? Is it still being published? Do you know whether a microfilm copy exists of the Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census for Shenandoah Valley? Thanks again, Vicki On Monday, January 5, 2004, at 11:02 AM, BeejC1@aol.com wrote: > I do not know the maiden name of Anna who married Jacob Jr. I do have > a clue > as to which Baumgartner daughter married his father, Jacob Burner Sr. > The > Reconstructed 1750 Mennonite Census of Shenandoah Valley - Massanutten > Area: > Household 37: Jacob Borner, age 28, Madelena ,age 23, Michael age 2, > Jacob, > Newborn. Household 38: John Baumgartner age 55, Mary age 19, John age > 16, > Elizabeth age 14 and Christian age 12. This from "Emigrants, > Refugees and Prisoners > Vol III" by Davis > Betty Carson > > > ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or > VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe. >

I know - just thought they might be useful to you. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [VASHENAN] Burner, Jacob Date: 1/5/2004 6:36:50 PM Eastern Standard Time From: Jwbake@aol.com Reply-to: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com To: VASHENAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) In a message dated 1/5/2004 5:10:31 PM Central Standard Time, Ms2001@aol.com writes: > Ferederick County shows one Jacob Burner who married Elizabeth Harmon in > 1804 > (date cannot be read) - minister Wm Hill. > > Shenandoah shows another Jacob married to Ann Raper on 2 Dec 1815 - bond by > > Jacob Y Burner. > Thank you for the two Jacob Burner marriages. Unfortunately, they were not Jacob Burner, Jr., son of Jacob Burner, Sr., and one of the daughters of John Bumgardner. This Jacob Burner Jr., died in 1782. Joe Baker ==== VASHENAN Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send a msg. to VASHENAN-L-request@rootsweb.com or VASHENAN-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe.

In a message dated 1/5/2004 5:10:31 PM Central Standard Time, Ms2001@aol.com writes: > Ferederick County shows one Jacob Burner who married Elizabeth Harmon in > 1804 > (date cannot be read) - minister Wm Hill. > > Shenandoah shows another Jacob married to Ann Raper on 2 Dec 1815 - bond by > > Jacob Y Burner. > Thank you for the two Jacob Burner marriages. Unfortunately, they were not Jacob Burner, Jr., son of Jacob Burner, Sr., and one of the daughters of John Bumgardner. This Jacob Burner Jr., died in 1782. Joe Baker