Sharon, Jonas and Phebe Myers are part of our family. Let me get back to you after I go through my many notes. I may be able to tell you why your family was living in their household. There are so many interwoven family members! Gloria ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Forgot to ask you how the Good family connects because you mentioned Bob Good. George Druck/Trook (brother to Rebecca) married (second marriage) abt 1840/42 Mary Gochenour. When George died Mary married 1863 John W. Good. John was 64 years old and the son of Samuel and Dorothy Good. Any connection? Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Pine Forge > Wow, what a bonus. Thanks for the maiden name of Rebecca. We have been > wondering what it was. The people buried in the Woods/Myers Cemetery are > mostly > related in some way. A few of the relations are buried in other cemeteries > though. Every time we go to the cemetery we are sick at heart to see how > it has > deteriorated. > > One of Russell's cousins, Bob Good did clean it one time long ago, but it > is > now back in terrible shape. It is just too big a job for one person. Maybe > if > we form a committee and do it in the dead of winter we could get the job > done. We do not know any of the living descendants except our family but > we > know they have to be out there. Anyone want to help? > > Just a bit of history: > > Rebecca and Emanuel Rinehart's daughter Adah C. Rhinehart married in > Shenandoah County to Simeon Woods the 27 August 1867. Simeon Woods was the > son of > Ephraim Woods and first wife Dorothy Rhodes. Ephraim's second wife was > Elizabeth Bushong, widow of Jacob Bushong. Her maiden name was McInturff. > Ephriam > Woods bought a home with land in 1849 (we believe is now referred to as > the > James Spitzer Home since he was the last to own it in the 1900s) and is > on the > same road as the Soloquily School House, going up the mountain north. It > is now > abandoned and used for storage by Franwood farms. The home was built > circa > 1793 was originally owned by Abraham Bird and wife May. It is a wonder it > is > still standing but it was well build. > In 1886 Ephraim Woods owns 227 acres on Smith Creek Road some of which > belonged to widow Elizabeth Bushong when she married him and brought the > land into > the marriage. We have shown his Will on our Boschong List. > > Simeon Woods actually married twice: > M/1: 6 November 1855 to Margaret Foltz, d/o John Foltz and Mary Margaret > Catharine Pence > M/2: 27 August 1867 to Adah C. Rhinehart, d/o Emanuel Rhinehart and > Rebecca > Trook > > John Foltz and Mary Margaret Catharine Pence were the parents of my > husband > Russell's great great grandfather Uriah Foltz. Uriah Foltz married Anna > Hoover d/o William Hoover and Mary Margaret Sheetz. They lived in > Rockbridge > County but after Uriah's death in 1857, Anna moved with her children back > to Smith > Creek Road in Shenandoah County. Then Anna and her unmarried daughter > Catharine moved into New Market on Waters Street in her later years. > Uriah Foltz is > buried in the the old section of Mt. Carmel Presbyterian Church Cemetery > on > the Lee Highway about a quarter mile north of Steele's Tavern and Anna is > who > died in 1904 is buried at Cedar Grove Church Cemetery. The home in > Rockbridge County has been restored and is on the Historic Registry. It > is a neat old > house very similar to the Battlefield home at New Market. > > Two of Uriah Foltz's brothers married Shavers. His brother John Walton > Foltz > married Mary Jane Shaver and his brother Jacob married Rachel Ellen > Shaver. > > We would love to have a picture of Elizabeth McInturff Bushong Woods if > there is every one found! > > Gloria and Russell Bushong > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for all of the info. We live in Indiana but come to Shenandoah at least once a year - Sep this year. We are going to drive by all the places that you mentioned. I am sure that Rebecca went by the maiden name of Druck as most of the daughters of Nicholas Druck did. The girls were all married by the time the sons changed the name to Trook or Drook. Adah C. Rinehart was also married before she married Simeon Woods. She first married, 1857, John Kingree 1820 - 1858. He was the son of John and Elizabeth (Kerlin) Kingree. Adah & John had one son, John Franklin Kingree, born born in 1858. John (the son) married Virginia Woods in 1892. I saw an interesting item in "The History of Rockingham County". May, 1868 Simeon Woods planted a large tract of grapes near New Market. Thanks again for all of the data ------ Carole Trook-Hacker ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Pine Forge > Wow, what a bonus. Thanks for the maiden name of Rebecca. We have been > wondering what it was. The people buried in the Woods/Myers Cemetery are > mostly > related in some way. A few of the relations are buried in other cemeteries > though. Every time we go to the cemetery we are sick at heart to see how > it has > deteriorated. > > One of Russell's cousins, Bob Good did clean it one time long ago, but it > is > now back in terrible shape. It is just too big a job for one person. Maybe > if > we form a committee and do it in the dead of winter we could get the job > done. We do not know any of the living descendants except our family but > we > know they have to be out there. Anyone want to help? > > Just a bit of history: > > Rebecca and Emanuel Rinehart's daughter Adah C. Rhinehart married in > Shenandoah County to Simeon Woods the 27 August 1867. Simeon Woods was the > son of > Ephraim Woods and first wife Dorothy Rhodes. Ephraim's second wife was > Elizabeth Bushong, widow of Jacob Bushong. Her maiden name was McInturff. > Ephriam > Woods bought a home with land in 1849 (we believe is now referred to as > the > James Spitzer Home since he was the last to own it in the 1900s) and is > on the > same road as the Soloquily School House, going up the mountain north. It > is now > abandoned and used for storage by Franwood farms. The home was built > circa > 1793 was originally owned by Abraham Bird and wife May. It is a wonder it > is > still standing but it was well build. > In 1886 Ephraim Woods owns 227 acres on Smith Creek Road some of which > belonged to widow Elizabeth Bushong when she married him and brought the > land into > the marriage. We have shown his Will on our Boschong List. > > Simeon Woods actually married twice: > M/1: 6 November 1855 to Margaret Foltz, d/o John Foltz and Mary Margaret > Catharine Pence > M/2: 27 August 1867 to Adah C. Rhinehart, d/o Emanuel Rhinehart and > Rebecca > Trook > > John Foltz and Mary Margaret Catharine Pence were the parents of my > husband > Russell's great great grandfather Uriah Foltz. Uriah Foltz married Anna > Hoover d/o William Hoover and Mary Margaret Sheetz. They lived in > Rockbridge > County but after Uriah's death in 1857, Anna moved with her children back > to Smith > Creek Road in Shenandoah County. Then Anna and her unmarried daughter > Catharine moved into New Market on Waters Street in her later years. > Uriah Foltz is > buried in the the old section of Mt. Carmel Presbyterian Church Cemetery > on > the Lee Highway about a quarter mile north of Steele's Tavern and Anna is > who > died in 1904 is buried at Cedar Grove Church Cemetery. The home in > Rockbridge County has been restored and is on the Historic Registry. It > is a neat old > house very similar to the Battlefield home at New Market. > > Two of Uriah Foltz's brothers married Shavers. His brother John Walton > Foltz > married Mary Jane Shaver and his brother Jacob married Rachel Ellen > Shaver. > > We would love to have a picture of Elizabeth McInturff Bushong Woods if > there is every one found! > > Gloria and Russell Bushong > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow, what a bonus. Thanks for the maiden name of Rebecca. We have been wondering what it was. The people buried in the Woods/Myers Cemetery are mostly related in some way. A few of the relations are buried in other cemeteries though. Every time we go to the cemetery we are sick at heart to see how it has deteriorated. One of Russell's cousins, Bob Good did clean it one time long ago, but it is now back in terrible shape. It is just too big a job for one person. Maybe if we form a committee and do it in the dead of winter we could get the job done. We do not know any of the living descendants except our family but we know they have to be out there. Anyone want to help? Just a bit of history: Rebecca and Emanuel Rinehart's daughter Adah C. Rhinehart married in Shenandoah County to Simeon Woods the 27 August 1867. Simeon Woods was the son of Ephraim Woods and first wife Dorothy Rhodes. Ephraim's second wife was Elizabeth Bushong, widow of Jacob Bushong. Her maiden name was McInturff. Ephriam Woods bought a home with land in 1849 (we believe is now referred to as the James Spitzer Home since he was the last to own it in the 1900s) and is on the same road as the Soloquily School House, going up the mountain north. It is now abandoned and used for storage by Franwood farms. The home was built circa 1793 was originally owned by Abraham Bird and wife May. It is a wonder it is still standing but it was well build. In 1886 Ephraim Woods owns 227 acres on Smith Creek Road some of which belonged to widow Elizabeth Bushong when she married him and brought the land into the marriage. We have shown his Will on our Boschong List. Simeon Woods actually married twice: M/1: 6 November 1855 to Margaret Foltz, d/o John Foltz and Mary Margaret Catharine Pence M/2: 27 August 1867 to Adah C. Rhinehart, d/o Emanuel Rhinehart and Rebecca Trook John Foltz and Mary Margaret Catharine Pence were the parents of my husband Russell's great great grandfather Uriah Foltz. Uriah Foltz married Anna Hoover d/o William Hoover and Mary Margaret Sheetz. They lived in Rockbridge County but after Uriah's death in 1857, Anna moved with her children back to Smith Creek Road in Shenandoah County. Then Anna and her unmarried daughter Catharine moved into New Market on Waters Street in her later years. Uriah Foltz is buried in the the old section of Mt. Carmel Presbyterian Church Cemetery on the Lee Highway about a quarter mile north of Steele's Tavern and Anna is who died in 1904 is buried at Cedar Grove Church Cemetery. The home in Rockbridge County has been restored and is on the Historic Registry. It is a neat old house very similar to the Battlefield home at New Market. Two of Uriah Foltz's brothers married Shavers. His brother John Walton Foltz married Mary Jane Shaver and his brother Jacob married Rachel Ellen Shaver. We would love to have a picture of Elizabeth McInturff Bushong Woods if there is every one found! Gloria and Russell Bushong ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Since I received such good information about Pine Forge I thought I would ask another question. This same John Randolph Shaver/Shaffer had six children, 5 boys and 1 girl. On the 1870 census it shows the first 2 boys, Daniel and Casper. On the 1880 census it shows the 3rd son, Charles, and his daughter Cora. In that ten year span his wife died and he moved in with his brother, James Perry and his family. For whatever reason his son Daniel is found living with a Jonas & Phoebe Myers and the 4th son, Ellis is found living with Joseph & Rebecca Hupp. However, Casper and the 5th son, Mervil J. are both missing. I cannot find them again until the 1900 census when Casper shows up with his own family and Mervil shows up living with his father and stepmother. Was this something that occurred a lot when a parent died and the other parent moved in with other family? I found Daniel and Ellis and the folks they were living with sort of by accident. I thought that Daniel and Casper might have been apprenticed to someone and so looked at pages before and after the page that John and Perry were listed on. However, Ellis was only 8 and the man he was with is shown as a blacksmith. Would he have been an apprentice at 8? Also, there was a notation that says either "taken in service or taken in raise". How does someone disappear for 30 years? I would love to find out who Casper and Mervil were with during those years. In 1880 Casper would have been 12 and Mervil would have been about 6. Any ideas on how to find them or do I just start going through ALL the pages of the census around New Market? Thanks again for the Pine Forge help and any help you can give here. Sharon --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

Thanks to all of you who provided me with the Pine Forge information. I really appreciate the help. I was checking out the 1885 atlas but either missed it or it was on a page I didn't get to yet. Sharon --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

Sharon, Pine Forge is shown on 1885 Lakes Atlas -Lee Dist Part A--page 35 this site. L.

Doing research on my Peters family and read this 1817 complaint by the children/heirs of Lewis Zirkle to set aside his will. It lists all of the Zirkle children but also lists people who "deposes". It also list their ages in 1817 so if anyone is researching the following here is the list: Thomas Moore, age 53 Abadiah Layton, age 83 Andrew Bird, age 62 Dr. Jacob D. Williamson, no age listed David Bruchart, age 62 Henry Phillips age 32, Daniel Zirkle married his sister Rev. John Klick (Gluck), age 62 George Diniger (Denninger), age 59 Jacob Weaver, age 40 John Peters, age 32 John Layton, age 28 Philip Peters, age 26 Elijah Moore, age 40, is a mason by trade and moved to New Market in 1800. William West, age 34 John Moore, age 56 Francis Lybert, age 50 Thomas Moore, Jr., age 33 James Chapman, age 43 Thomas Robertson, no age listed. Most of these people say they knew and/or lived near to Lewis Zirkle. They must be from around the Shenandoah/Rockingham county line near New Market.

I hate to see old cemeteries go "down hill" - as they do everywhere. My 2 great grandfather, Philip Trook's, sister Rebecca Trook 1807 - 1891 is buried in the Myers/Woods Cemetery. She married 1st Samuel Schmucker and 2nd Emanuel Rinehart. One of their daughters, Adah C. Rinehardt married Simeon Woods. I have been warned several times not to even try to go to the cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Pine Forge > Sharon, Tom is correct about the location of Pine Forge. The name of the > road to turn on off of Route 11 is Smith Creek Road. The Shavers/Shaffers > mingled with the Bushong family and their many "married-in connections" > so it is > possible that if you cannot find them buried at Woods Chapel, your > Shaver/Shaffer could be buried in Cedar Grove Cemetery right at the > corner of Route 11 > and Smith Creek Road and across from the Cedar Grove Church of the > Brethren.or > Myers/Woods Cemetery on Smith Creek Road which is now on the Franwood > turkey > farm property. There are so many unmarked graves now in both cemeteries > because the tombstones have been destroyed over the years. The > Myers/Woods > Cemetery is full of poison ivy and no one dares venture into it. > > Russell and Gloria Bushong > bushongfamily.com > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharon, Tom is correct about the location of Pine Forge. The name of the road to turn on off of Route 11 is Smith Creek Road. The Shavers/Shaffers mingled with the Bushong family and their many "married-in connections" so it is possible that if you cannot find them buried at Woods Chapel, your Shaver/Shaffer could be buried in Cedar Grove Cemetery right at the corner of Route 11 and Smith Creek Road and across from the Cedar Grove Church of the Brethren.or Myers/Woods Cemetery on Smith Creek Road which is now on the Franwood turkey farm property. There are so many unmarked graves now in both cemeteries because the tombstones have been destroyed over the years. The Myers/Woods Cemetery is full of poison ivy and no one dares venture into it. Russell and Gloria Bushong bushongfamily.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Sharon, Go north from New Market on US Rte 11 maybe 2 or 2.5 miles. There will be a cemetery on your left and a road (State Rte 620 I think) on your right. Turn there and you will immediately see an old church, Cedar Grove. Go a couple hundred yards to a bridge over Smith Creek and the downstream end of Pine Forge is now beneath you. The Forge stretched upstream maybe a quarter mile or so; there is an access road between the Church and the bridge that goes off to your right. I think it has a sign saying something like "Old Forge Road". There's no much left except some stones and concrete. Anyway, cross the bridge and sort of bear left and head up toward the gap into the Massanutten and, in a mile or two, you'll come to Wood's Chapel where there is a cemetery. Go to www.topozone.com and type in "Rudes Hill", VA. Then go slightly south (down the screen) from there. Tom Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Domer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [VASHENAN] Pine Forge > Can anyone tell me where Pine Forge is or was located? I am trying to find > the burial site for John Randolph Shaver/Shaffer and his wives. His first > wife was Sarah Catherine V. Bailey. She died 13 Dec 1877. According to > Someone You Knew II, Vol. II they were living in Pine Forge at the time of > her death. > > John R. died 24 Mar 1913 and information I have says he is buried at > Woods Chapel but family members were there just months ago and could not > find him or either wife. I do not have a date of death for Fannie. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks to all. > > Sharon > > > --------------------------------- > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me where Pine Forge is or was located? I am trying to find the burial site for John Randolph Shaver/Shaffer and his wives. His first wife was Sarah Catherine V. Bailey. She died 13 Dec 1877. According to Someone You Knew II, Vol. II they were living in Pine Forge at the time of her death. John R. died 24 Mar 1913 and information I have says he is buried at Woods Chapel but family members were there just months ago and could not find him or either wife. I do not have a date of death for Fannie. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks to all. Sharon --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

Until the Revolutionary War, according to an article on the Library of Virginia site, the marriage laws pertaining to relationships were those of the English common law. Unfortunately, I can't find what these were - still lolling. Richard Fairfax VA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:24 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Marriage & Code of VA I assume this is the current Code. Do you perhaps have the time line of the changes to the VA Code for family law. It is my understanding the cousin restriction was a restriction of the Roman Catholic Church and not originally a legal one. Phyllis Vannoy Spiker § 20-38.1. Certain marriages prohibited. (a) The following marriages are prohibited: (1) A marriage entered into prior to the dissolution of an earlier marriage of one of the parties; (2) A marriage between an ancestor and descendant, or between a brother and a sister, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood or by adoption; (3) A marriage between an uncle and a niece or between an aunt and a nephew, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I assume this is the current Code. Do you perhaps have the time line of the changes to the VA Code for family law. It is my understanding the cousin restriction was a restriction of the Roman Catholic Church and not originally a legal one. Phyllis Vannoy Spiker § 20-38.1. Certain marriages prohibited. (a) The following marriages are prohibited: (1) A marriage entered into prior to the dissolution of an earlier marriage of one of the parties; (2) A marriage between an ancestor and descendant, or between a brother and a sister, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood or by adoption; (3) A marriage between an uncle and a niece or between an aunt and a nephew, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I saw a local obituary the other day that said the funeral would be conducted at First Church of Columbia Furnace, and that the burial would be in the church’s cemetery. I couldn’t find a listing on the vashen web page for a church/cemetery by this name, so I took a little drive to what I thought might be the cemetery. That is what prompted me to write, what I think, would be more clear directions and information on this particular cemetery, especially if you are unfamiliar to the area. FOR DON: You may want to consider changing the directions that are currently on the web page, and also include the name of First Church of Columbia Furnace. There is a picture of the church on the vashen web page, but I am sending you pictures of 2 sections of the cemetery, both in front, and in back of the church, that you may want to include on the web page. I hope this will be helpful. Thank you, Jan Hood DIRECTIONS: Columbia Furnace Union Church Cemetery (aka Columbia Furnace Cemetery) - This church is aka First Church of Columbia Furnace, as can be seen from a sign beside the cemetery. From Woodstock take W. Reservoir Rd (Rt. 42), that changes into Senedo Rd. After you have traveled 6 miles from Woodstock, you will come to the community of Columbia Furnace. The cemetery and church will be in view on your right. Take a Right onto Union Church Rd (Rt 768), which is the road in front of the church. Across the road, from the entrance to the FRONT of the church, is the oldest section of the cemetery that is surrounded by a stone wall. It appears that a section is going to open in the area just outside the stone wall. The largest section of the cemetery is in BACK of the church.

Richard, This site gives two of the applicable Virginia laws that were codified: http://www.wvculture.org/history/marriagelaws.html But, as you point out, there was also common law pertaining to who could marry. Unfortunately, common law was often not recorded, save in case law, and can be hard to find, again as you note. There were some non-bloodline prohibitions such as your step-mother, but those seemed to be mostly concerned with propriety and property. The bulk of the prohibitions involved degree of consanguinity wherein your parents and children are degree 1 and your siblings are degree 2. To find your degree of consanguinity simply add the degrees along the lowest sum path. For example, your father is degree 1, his sister is degree 2. Her daughter is degree 1. So, if you marry your first cousin, that is degree 4 (1+2+1). Common law sometimes prohibited marriages as far removed as 10 degrees, but, so far as I know, always prohibited 3 or less. The actual degree seems to have changed depending on which Bishop did the pronouncement and which King wanted to marry which 2nd cousin. Most modern laws prohibit marriages at 3 or 4 degrees. This use of degree of consanguinity, I am told by my geneticist acquaintances, applies better to Mendel's peas than to humans. The other problem with this arose with smaller, restricted, religious groups such as my Dunkard or Quaker ancestors where families tended to intermarry generation after generation. You could do a network calculation using something like that used for equivalent resistances, but I don't know of anyone doing that. If there are any horse breeders reading this, you may know how to figure this. Are you old enough to remember Jerry Lee Lewis' marriage to his 3rd cousin, twice removed? The nation was horrified. Tom Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Pence" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Marriage & Code of VA Until the Revolutionary War, according to an article on the Library of Virginia site, the marriage laws pertaining to relationships were those of the English common law. Unfortunately, I can't find what these were - still lolling. Richard Fairfax VA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 3:24 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Marriage & Code of VA I assume this is the current Code. Do you perhaps have the time line of the changes to the VA Code for family law. It is my understanding the cousin restriction was a restriction of the Roman Catholic Church and not originally a legal one. Phyllis Vannoy Spiker § 20-38.1. Certain marriages prohibited. (a) The following marriages are prohibited: (1) A marriage entered into prior to the dissolution of an earlier marriage of one of the parties; (2) A marriage between an ancestor and descendant, or between a brother and a sister, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood or by adoption; (3) A marriage between an uncle and a niece or between an aunt and a nephew, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the what the Code of Virginia says about who cannot marry. If you are not prohibited from marrying, you can legally marry. First cousins can marry in Virginia. I have one set of gg grandparents who were first cousins. Jim Messersmith Rockville, VA § 20-38.1. Certain marriages prohibited. (a) The following marriages are prohibited: (1) A marriage entered into prior to the dissolution of an earlier marriage of one of the parties; (2) A marriage between an ancestor and descendant, or between a brother and a sister, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood or by adoption; (3) A marriage between an uncle and a niece or between an aunt and a nephew, whether the relationship is by the half or the whole blood. At 05:29 PM 6/14/2007 , you wrote: >Marge, >I don't know that VA ever did ban cousin marriages; my family in VA >continued it through the early 1900s - well not everybody, but some. I have >a cousin out in Indiana that I'm related to 8 different ways and I'm told >that's not even close to the record. >Pennsylvania, by the way, prohibits all related marriages though they don't >specify what they mean or how far relationship carries. I believe Maryland >permits it because some of the PA Amish go down there to get married, but >I'm not sure of the exact law. >Tom Pierce > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marge" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:01 PM >Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Marriage record documents and so forth. > > > > When did Virginia start the first cousin's not marrying. My Riley's and > > Fosters and Smoots and Welchs intermarried with each other thru first > > cousins. > > > > The only branchs of the Riley's (in my line)_ that did not marry first > > cousins was my great grandfather's branch that moved to Maryland and my > > "cousin and researcher" branch who moved to Pennsylvania. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.17/850 - Release Date: 6/15/2007 >11:31 AM

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Julie, Vickie and other Grove researchers. Do you have information on the William Grove/Elizabeth A Grove family found: 1850 US Fed Census Frederick Co., VA Dist 15 H/H 1706/1732 William Grove 35 Elizabeth Grove 40 John Grove 7 James Snapp 18 Margaret A. Jones 7 Catherine Brown 7 1860 US Fed census of Mag. Dist No. 8, H/H 1399/1361 Elizabeth A. Grove 53 John E. Grove 17 Margaret A. Grove 16. William R. Spiker married Margaret A. Grove married 27 May 1866 in Frederick Co., VA 1870 US Fed Census Berkeley Co WV, Gerrardstown, HH 233/236 Elizabeth Grove 68 John E. 25 Spiker, William 30 Margaret 25 Arthur L 2 Joy J 8/12 Any information welcome. Phyllis Spiker ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Marge, I don't know that VA ever did ban cousin marriages; my family in VA continued it through the early 1900s - well not everybody, but some. I have a cousin out in Indiana that I'm related to 8 different ways and I'm told that's not even close to the record. Pennsylvania, by the way, prohibits all related marriages though they don't specify what they mean or how far relationship carries. I believe Maryland permits it because some of the PA Amish go down there to get married, but I'm not sure of the exact law. Tom Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Marriage record documents and so forth. > When did Virginia start the first cousin's not marrying. My Riley's and > Fosters and Smoots and Welchs intermarried with each other thru first > cousins. > > The only branchs of the Riley's (in my line)_ that did not marry first > cousins was my great grandfather's branch that moved to Maryland and my > "cousin and researcher" branch who moved to Pennsylvania. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >