I am researching John Miller, b. 1809 in Shenandoah Co., son of William and Mary Magdalene Copenhaver Miller. He married in 1833; wife was Mary Ann. Problem is there were two marriage licenses issued that year for a John Miller and a Mary Ann. First was John Miller to Mary Ann Piper, daughter of David Piper on 18 Feb 1833. Second was John Miller to Mary Ann Bowers on 10 Jun 1833. Any suggestions on how to determine which one is the son of William and Mary Miller? The one I’m researching (John) was a widower in 1865 when he married Lucy Spiker. There is a Mary Ann Miller, wife of John and daughter of David Piper, buried in the Miller-Minnick-Barb Cemetery, and her date of death is 1874. Information passed down to me through the Miller family indicates that Mary Ann Piper is our ancestor, but I’m thinking that may be incorrect. Part of the difficulty in determining who’s who is that there were MANY people named John Miller living in Shenandoah Co between 1810-1890. Donna Miller (865) 691-9702 [email protected] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM

Does anyone know if any divorce records have been transcribed? I assume there are some from the late 1800's early 1900's. Michael Charles ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Will it be possible to find copies of wills going back to about 1880 at the Shenandoah Co courthouse? What about property tax records? Donna Miller (865) 691-9702 [email protected] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 9:31 AM

I am looking for the marriage of Elizabeth Parrett b. abt 1748 to Frederick and Barbara (Margaret) Parrett I have a note from I know not where that she may have married a Henry Shoemaker. They may have moved to Ohio after Rev. War. Any information on Elizabeth Parrett would be great. I am working on a book and found in proofing my info is weak with her. Thanks, Marica [email protected]

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This is what I found, Chocy Shenandoah Co., VA Samuel WENDEL to Cathrine (sic) KELLER; 6 Sep 1824; Bondsman: Philip KELLER Shenandoah Co., VA Henry Washington ORNDORFF; 19 yrs; b & l in Shen. Co., VA; Farmer; parents James & Amelia ORNDORFF; married on 16 Nov 1862; to CATHERINE WINDLE, 29 yrs; Widow; b & l in Shenandoah Co., VA; parents John & Dorothy KELLER; married by Thomas MILLER; Page 37, Line 49. Shenandoah Co., VA George HALAINA to Rachel WINDLE; 19 July 1853; no other information listed in the book, "Shenandoah Co. Marriage Bonds 1772-1853" typed by the Genealogical Society of Utah in 1939. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I looked to familysearch.org and came up with the surname KELLER for a Susanna Catherine Keller who wed Samuel E. Windle. These people were supposedly located in the Tombrook area of Shen. Co. I am interested in the Windles as my Nelson and Anderson families married into the Windle family. All these families seem to have a connection to both Shen and Frederick Cos., VA. I hope this helps. Karen (TX) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [VASHENAN] Rachel Windle md to George Halaina,d/o Samuel E. Windle & Catharine Vashenan Subscribers, We received this E-mail from Debbie Nicora asking us about some Windles. We are not familiar with these particular Windles as we have not researched Windles unless they directly married into the Bushong family. We are sending this request along to the List in hopes someone will recognize them as everyone has always been such a help. Thanks. Russell and Gloria Bushong ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------- FROM DEBBIE NICORA Am looking for information on a Samuel E. Windle.... his daughter Rachel married in Shenandoah County Va in 1853 to a George Halaina. On their wedding info it had he and his wife Catharine listed. Unfortunately there was no last name for Catharine and I'm trying to track both Samuel and his wife Catharine. Thank you, Debbie Nicora [email protected] ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vashenan Subscribers, We received this E-mail from Debbie Nicora asking us about some Windles. We are not familiar with these particular Windles as we have not researched Windles unless they directly married into the Bushong family. We are sending this request along to the List in hopes someone will recognize them as everyone has always been such a help. Thanks. Russell and Gloria Bushong ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------- FROM DEBBIE NICORA Am looking for information on a Samuel E. Windle.... his daughter Rachel married in Shenandoah County Va in 1853 to a George Halaina. On their wedding info it had he and his wife Catharine listed. Unfortunately there was no last name for Catharine and I'm trying to track both Samuel and his wife Catharine. Thank you, Debbie Nicora [email protected] ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I know that Find-A-Grave has a good part of it on line but I didn't see the name you mention. You might check out the Millers that are there and see if that can help. _http://www.findagrave.com/_ (http://www.findagrave.com/) Michael Charles ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Does anyone know if there is an online record of graves/tombstones for this cemetery? I am looking for a grave for John Miller, b. 3 Apr 1809, Strasburg, VA; d. ~1891 and is reportedly buried in Mt. Hebron Cemetery in Winchester. Thanks! D. Miller No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/965 - Release Date: 8/21/2007 4:02 PM

Just today I received the following from John Adamson of the Strasburg Heritage Association: Strasburg Family History Share Fair One of SHA's goals is to record and preserve our local history. Our Oral History project has been a result of this goal. For several years we've talked about encouraging families in Strasburg and Davis District to share their family histories, family tree, family Bibles and photos to create an archive for future generations. Mark your calendar now for Sunday, September 16 when we'll co-sponsor, along with the Strasburg Community Library, a Strasburg Family History Share Fair at 3 p.m. at the St. Paul Lutheran Church Fellowship Hall. We're asking families to bring and share genealogical information from family Bibles, other family papers (deeds, etc.) and old photographs. When possible we will scan the information brought in to create a permanent archive of local family histories. We hope this collection of information will add to our Oral History Project interviews. Old photographs would be especially helpful with the project, now available to the public at the Strasburg Community Library. We've all seen old family papers, Bibles and photographs from time to time at auctions, being sold to strangers, and have wondered about the history that is lost. We hope that this Share Fair will give the community an opportunity to ensure that our own local history and way of life is remembered and appreciated. Please ask family and friends about documents they may be willing to share. Perhaps you could create your own family tree and photo display to bring to the Share Fair. Don Silvius

Donna, this is what I received from the Chamber of Commerce: Ms. Hood, >From research I conducted earlier this year, I determined that Strasburg Heritage Days is what has developed into Mayfest. Heritage Days was held in the fall during the 1970's. Today, we have Mayfest in the spring and are planning an Oktoberfest for October 6 from 2 to 9 p.m. Jackie Thompson, Administrative Assistant, Strasburg Chamber of Commerce Jan, The committees working on Oktoberfest are still finalizing plans. There will be a business expo at the fire house from 2 to 5 p.m. Other activities throughout the day will be live entertainment concluding with a street dance from 7 to 9 p.m.; food; German beer; pumpkin decorating from 2 to 6 p.m.; numerous children's games; an apple pie baking contest from 2:30 to 3 p.m.; a cake walk to polka music every hour from 3 to 7 p.m.; Bingo from 3 to 5 p.m.; a nail driving contest at 3 p.m.; a living history presentation from 3 to 6 p.m.; and a number of other activities. All activities are either at the fire hall, rescue squad building or on the old town lot behind the fire department. Not directly included in Oktoberfest, but on the Sunday, October 7 from 6 to 8 p.m. there will be a Sunday in the Park program with live music, hayrides, popcorn and water. If you want more information on Oktoberfest, you may want to contact Rich Orndorff, who is the Oktoberfest event coordinator. His number is 335-4177. Jackie >Does anyone have more details about this event? I believe it is Sep. 16 from 3-6 p.m. Does anyone know if there is a program or schedule of events? I think Jim Artz is going to give a presentation on genealogy. What else is the docket? Thanks! Donna Miller< -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 231 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM

Does anyone have more details about this event? I believe it is Sep. 16 from 3-6 p.m. Does anyone know if there is a program or schedule of events? I think Jim Artz is going to give a presentation on genealogy. What else is the docket? Thanks! Donna Miller (865) 691-9702 [email protected] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/961 - Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM

For those searching Wetzel- check out http://genforum.genealogy.com . I saw at least two Wetzels listed with a Derrow connection. Hope this helps someone. Sharon [email protected] wrote: There were 2 Wetzell/Coffman marriages John Wetzel (one L) to Christina Coffman - 11 Aug 1798 (not 1789 are stated elsewhere) - bond by Samuel Wetzel William Wetzell (2 L's) to Rebecca Coffman 20 April 1849 - bond John Wetzell who also posted bonds for Absalom in 1845, Martin in 1832, Eli in 1837. And in the records for John in 1820 and David in 1822 it says he's the son of John. Hope this information helps someone in those lines. Bev In a message dated 8/14/2007 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Aug 1789 thanks -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL What year was the Wetzel - Coffman marriage? I'm going to be ordering the 1801-1804 shenandoah county marriage bonds -would it be on there? "J. Whetzel" wrote: Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we John Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of John. I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that is a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81. John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced 1)David (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

There were 2 Wetzell/Coffman marriages John Wetzel (one L) to Christina Coffman - 11 Aug 1798 (not 1789 are stated elsewhere) - bond by Samuel Wetzel William Wetzell (2 L's) to Rebecca Coffman 20 April 1849 - bond John Wetzell who also posted bonds for Absalom in 1845, Martin in 1832, Eli in 1837. And in the records for John in 1820 and David in 1822 it says he's the son of John. Hope this information helps someone in those lines. Bev In a message dated 8/14/2007 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Aug 1789 thanks -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL What year was the Wetzel - Coffman marriage? I'm going to be ordering the 1801-1804 shenandoah county marriage bonds -would it be on there? "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> wrote: Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we John Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of John. I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that is a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81. John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced 1)David (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Aug 1789 thanks -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL What year was the Wetzel - Coffman marriage? I'm going to be ordering the 1801-1804 shenandoah county marriage bonds -would it be on there? "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> wrote: Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we John Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of John. I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that is a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81. John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced 1)David (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think surely the line should be "we John >and< Henry ..." - but it is hard to tell without the document in front of me. The Samuel at the bottom may be a witness; again it's hard to tell without seeing the document. It is quite possible that the consent slips - if any - would be on the microfilm. I really have kept up with where the Shenandoah records are now and exactly what was microfilmed - it's been at least 15 years since I've been in the court house. I have hardly anything on Leah Pence and David Wetzel. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > Richard, thanks for the information about bond vs. marriage. Does that > line > "we John of Henry..." look like a good starting place to find the father > of > John? Would the consent paper be on microfilm at the library? I know > that > you are great with the Pence history and wonder if you had anything about > David and Leah? I think I emailed with you years ago when I started. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Richard A. Pence > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > > The "obligation" you write about in your message below is the marriage > bond. > > What the bond's "obligation" is not an intent to marry. It is meant to > assure that there is no legal reason why the marriage should not take > place. > > The most common of these were that both parties were of legal age, that > neither were married and that the were not too closely related (per laws > of > the church or state). > > The bondsman was not necessarily the father of either the bride or groom. > But if David was actually born in 1802, then he was not yet of age. > Therefore there needed to be some sort of consent furnished by a parent. > Perhaps signed the bond was that consent. If you sent for the marriage > record, did you ask for or get all the papers associated with the record. > There is often consent slips. I don't know where the marriage bonds are > now > kept in Shenandoah County, but many years ago they were filed in little > file > > drawers in the clerk's office in Woodstock. I think these contained loose > papers as well as the bond, wrapped with a ribbon. > > Richard Pence > Fairfax, VA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > > >> Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am >> attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or >> intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we >> John >> Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of >> John. >> I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that >> is >> a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds >> 1772-1850" page 81. >> >> John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was >> indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, >> Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of >> 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced >> 1)David >> (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's >> grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) >> >> We have not seen any middle initial connected with our David. >> >> There does appear to be a David F. Wetzel born in the 1790? He is often >> confused/interchanged with our David. >> [[[[iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 >> Jul >> 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA]]]. This would mean that David F. was born 5 >> years >> before John and Christina were married. >> >> Also you will see (attached) that Leah's name is also shown as Feah in >> some >> genealogy lists. >> >> Do you have anymore information about our David line? >> Send b >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Sandi Komosinski >> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL >> >> First of all, thank you to everyone who has contributed their time and >> help! >> I thought maybe by including a bit on my WETZEL line it may help to >> pinpoint >> my WOLF line (Mainly John's father). I thought maybe desc. of the >> Wetzel/Kauffman lines may recognize my Wolf family. Thx again everyone >> for >> your time, help, and guidance! I appreciate it very much! >> Sandi Komosinski >> By the way, I am more than willing to share all the info I have on all >> these >> lines. >> >> Descendants of John Wetzel >> >> Generation No. 1 >> >> 1. JOHN2 WETZEL (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. 1775 in Shenandoah Co., VA. He >> married CHRISTINA COFFMAN 11 Aug 1798 in Shenandoah Co., VA, daughter of >> AUGUSTINE COFFMAN/KAUFFMAN and MARY HOUTZ. She was born Abt. 1776. >> >> Notes for JOHN WETZEL: >> >> >> >> Marriage Notes for JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: >> Virginia Marriages to 1800 >> Spouse 1: Coffman, Christina >> Spouse 2: Wetzel, John >> Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1798 >> Marriage Location: Virginia >> Shenandoah County >> >> "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81 >> WETZEL, John / COFFMAN, Christina >> August 11,1798, Bondsman: Saml. Wetzel >> >> >> >> More About JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: >> Marriage: 11 Aug 1798, Shenandoah Co., VA >> >> Children of JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN are: >> i. ANNA3 WETZEL, m. HENRY WEAVER, 14 Nov 1827. >> >> More About HENRY WEAVER and ANNA WETZEL: >> Marriage: 14 Nov 1827 >> >> ii. ELI WETZEL, b. Abt. 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. DIANA ESTEP, 29 Apr >> 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. 22 Jul 1818, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Jan >> 1896. >> >> More About ELI WETZEL and DIANA ESTEP: >> Marriage: 29 Apr 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA >> >> iii. HENRY WETZEL, m. REBECCA DELLINGER, 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA. >> >> More About HENRY WETZEL and REBECCA DELLINGER: >> Marriage: 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA >> >> iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 Jul >> 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA. >> >> More About DAVID WETZEL and LEAH PENCE: >> Marriage: 31 Jul 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA >> >> 2. v. SOPHIA WETZEL, b. 1798, VA; d. 25 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion >> Co., >> IN. >> vi. JOHN WETZEL, b. 1803, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Shenandoah Co., VA; m. >> HANNAH H. HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK, 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. >> Abt. >> 1800, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Abt. 1826. >> >> More About JOHN WETZEL and HANNAH HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK: >> Marriage: 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA >> >> >> Generation No. 2 >> >> 2. SOPHIA3 WETZEL (JOHN2, SAMUEL1) was born 1798 in VA, and died 25 Apr >> 1885 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN1. She married JOHN WOLF 04 Jul 1820 >> in >> Shenandoah Co., VA2, son of ADAM WOLF?. He was born 09 Jun 1795 in VA, >> and >> died 16 Sep 1860 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN. >> >> Notes for SOPHIA WETZEL: >> The 1868 City Directory for Indianapolis shows Sophia WOLF, widow, >> boarding >> at 65 N. Bright Street and in 1869 at W.S. Minerva 2 South New York >> Street. >> >> On July 22, 1870, in the 4th Ward in Marion Co., IN Sophia was residing >> with >> her son Erasmus and his wife and son. At this time Sophia was 70 years >> old >> and her occupation was "braning" in the flour mill in Indianapolis. >> WOLF, Erasmus-age 36, born Virginia, cooper >> WOLF, Uphias-age 25, born Indiana, keep house >> WOLF, John A.-age 7/12, born Indiana, born Nov. >> WOLF, Sophia-age 70, born Virginia, braning >> >> In 1874 Mrs. John Wolf and her son Erasmus resided at 54 N. Geisendorff >> Street and in 1880 Sophia resided at 633 W. Vermont Street. >> >> The following is from the 1880 Federal Census for Indianapolis, Marion >> Co., >> IN; June 19,1880; 633 W. Vermont St., Dwelling #513, Family #597: >> WOLF, Sophia-age 83, born VA, keeps house, widow, parents born VA >> WOLF, Isac-age 36, born VA, cooper, single, parents born VA >> >> Sophia was listed in the 1880 list of Old Residents in Indianapolis over >> age >> 65. >> >> Sophia died in 1885 at the age of 87. The following death notice was >> found >> for her in the April 25,1885 issue of the "Indianapolis News", page 3, >> column 3: "DIED-WOLF, Sophia, in this city in her 87th year. Funeral >> from >> the residence of Jas. Amos, 2 and Blake St. Sunday at 2 p.m." >> >> >> More About SOPHIA WETZEL: >> Burial: 28 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. >> Cause of Death: Old Age, age 87 >> Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA3 >> Resided 2: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia4 >> Resided 3: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH5 >> Resided 4: 1860, N. 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN6 >> Resided 5: 1868, 65 N. Bright St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN7 >> Resided 6: 1869, 2 South New York St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN8 >> Resided 7: 22 Jul 1870, 4th Ward, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN w/son >> Erasmus >> Resided 8: 1874, 54 N. Geisendorff St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN9 >> Resided 9: 1880, 633 W. Vermont St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 >> Resided 10: 19 Jun 1880, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 >> >> Notes for JOHN WOLF: >> John and Sophia had nine children. All of their children were born in >> Virginia, in the Forestville/Mount Jackson area of Shenandoah County. >> For >> many, many years it was believed that John and Sophia had a son Otto, >> born >> about 1827 in Virginia. Finally, after some very extensive research, it >> is >> now believed that there was no Otto. There is an Otto in the >> Indianapolis >> area but after much research this Otto could not be ours as he was born >> in >> Bavaria. And a child of his approximate age never showed up in the >> Virginia >> or Ohio census records that would have matched up with ours. So as far as >> I >> am concerned, there was no son named Otto, unless someone can prove >> otherwise. >> >> John and Sophia were found in the 1820 census for Mt. Pleasant, >> Shenandoah >> Co., VA: >> John Wolf, 1 free white male 16-26 >> 1 free white female 16-26 >> 1 person engaged in manufacturing >> >> The 1830 census for the Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia >> shows >> the following: >> John Wolf (of Adam) >> 2 white males under 5 (Abraham 1824 & William 1825) >> 1 white male of 30 under 40 (John 1795) >> 2 white females under 5 (Elizabeth 1829 & Sidney Amanda 1830) >> 1 white female of 5 & under 10 (Diana 1821) >> 1 white female of 30 under 40 (Sophia 1799) >> >> The family has not been found in any 1840 census for Virginia, Ohio, or >> Indiana, even though we do know the family was in Virginia in 1844 as >> their >> son Isaac was born in Virginia. More research on this needs to be done. >> >> Around 1848 the family left Virginia by covered wagon and went to >> Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio. John had the first kerosene lamp in >> Springfield and people from all over came to see it. The following >> information was found in the 1850 Federal Census for Springfield, Clark >> Co., >> OH, August 12,1850, Dwelling 947, Family 965: >> WOLF, Jno.-age 55, born VA 1795, Cooper >> WOLF, Sophia-age 52, born VA 1798 >> WOLF, William-age 21, born VA 1829, Cooper >> WOLF, Sidney A.-age 16, born VA 1834 >> WOLF, Erasmus-age 14, born VA 1836 >> WOLF, L.C.-age 12, born VA 1838 >> WOLF, Isaac-age 10, born VA 1840 >> >> Also in Springfield was John and Sophia's son Abraham and his family: >> Dwelling 959, Family 977, Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, >> Farmer; his wife Sarah, age 25, born 1823 in Virginia; and their two >> children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio in 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born >> 1849 >> in Ohio. >> >> John Wolf is listed in the 1852 City Directory for Springfield as a >> laborer >> and boarding with George Dibert, a brick maker. >> >> In 1853 the Wolf's left Springfield by train and settled in Indianapolis, >> Marion Co., Indiana. >> >> The following information was found in the 1860 Federal Census for North >> 1/2 >> Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN; June 12,1860; Dwelling #86, Family #71: >> WOLF, John-age 65, born Virginia, occupation: cooper >> WOLF, Sophia-age 63, born Virginia >> Dwelling #87, Family #71: >> WOLF, Erasmns-age 25, born Virginia, occupation: cooper >> WOLF, Sidney-age 24, born Virginia, Weaver >> WOLF, Isaac-age 22, born Virginia, Cooper >> UNKUS or ANKUS????, this was not legible, John-age 6/12, born Indiana >> (This >> could possibly be Sidney's son John Alta Miller although he was >> supposedly >> born in Ohio.) >> >> John was a cooper (barrel maker) all his life, as were his sons William, >> Erasmus, and Isaac. >> >> John's tombstone, which is still standing after 146 years, in Mt. Jackson >> Cemetery in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana reads as: >> JOHN WOLF DIED Sept 16 1860 AGED 65 yrs 3 mos 7 da >> On the lower portion of the stone is the following: >> I have fought the good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept >> the >> faith. >> >> >> More About JOHN WOLF: >> Date born 2: 09 Jun 1795, Tombstone states age 65 y 3 m 7 days-Mt. >> Jackson >> Cem., Marion Co., IN11 >> Burial: Sep 1860, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. >> Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 65 >> Occupation: Cooper >> Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA12 >> Resided 2: 1830, Shenandoah Co. (Western District), VA13 >> Resided 3: 12 Aug 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH14 >> Resided 4: 12 Jun 1860, North 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN15 >> >> More About JOHN WOLF and SOPHIA WETZEL: >> Marriage: 04 Jul 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA16 >> >> Children of SOPHIA WETZEL and JOHN WOLF are: >> i. DIANA4 WOLF, b. 18 Mar 1821, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., >> VA; m. JOHN PRIEST, 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH17; b. Abt. 1826, Clark >> Co., >> OH. >> >> Notes for DIANA WOLF: >> It is not known as of yet if our Diana Wolf is indeed the Diana Wolf that >> married John Priest. More research will need to be done. The >> information >> on John Priest is merely being listed for research purposes only at this >> time. >> >> >> More About DIANA WOLF: >> Baptism: 21 Aug 1821, Shenandoah Co., VA-Godmother Eve Wetzel18 >> Resided: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia19 >> >> More About JOHN PRIEST and DIANA WOLF: >> Marriage: 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH20 >> >> ii. HARRESON WOLF, b. 02 Jul 1822, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah >> Co., >> VA; d. 19 Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA. >> >> Notes for HARRESON WOLF: >> Tombstone Inscription, Solomon's Church Cemetary, Forestville, Shenandoah >> Co., Virginia: >> Wolf, Harreson Died: 19 Aug 1823 Son of John & Sophia; age 1.1.17 >> >> >> More About HARRESON WOLF: >> Burial: Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA-Solomon's Ch.21 >> Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 1 yr 1 m 7 d >> >> iii. ABRAHAM WOLF, b. Apr 1824, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., >> VA; d. 1904; m. SARAH RINKER, 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH22; b. 31 Dec >> 1823, >> VA; d. 20 Aug 1882, Indiana. >> >> Notes for ABRAHAM WOLF: >> 1850 Federal Census Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio; Dwelling 959, Family >> 977: >> Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, Farmer; his wife Sarah, age >> 25, >> born 1823 in Virginia; and their two children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio >> in >> 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 in Ohio. >> >> 1860 Federal Census June 23,1860 Erie Twp., Miami Co., Indiana, Post >> Office >> Peru: >> Abram Wolf, age 34, born Virginia ca 1826; Farmer >> Sarah Wolf 37 VA >> Peter R Wolf 13 OH >> John H Wolf 11 OH >> Joseph Wolf 9 >> Mary E Wolf 7 >> Lydia S Wolf 2 >> >> 1870 Federal Census Beaver Twp., Newton Co., Indiana: >> Abraham Wolf, 45, VA, Farmer >> Sarah, 46, VA, Keeps House >> Peter, 22, OH, At Home >> John, 20, OH, At Home >> Joseph, 19, OH, At Home >> Mary E, 17, OH, At Home >> Lydia S, 11, IN, At Home >> Edward S, 8, IN, At Home >> Sarah J, 6, IN, At Home >> >> 1880 Federal Census Washington, Newton Co., Indiana: >> Abraham Wolf, 56, Farmer, born VA, parents also >> Sarah, 57, Keeps House, born VA, parents also >> Edward, 19, Works On Farm, born IN >> Jane, 16, born IN >> >> 1900 Federal Census Mill, Grant Co., Indiana: >> Mary E. Wolf, head, 47, OH, Feb 1853, 1 child, 1 living >> Silas Archibald , son, 24, IN, Mar 1876, single >> Abraham Wolf, father, 75, VA, Apr 1825, widow >> >> >> More About ABRAHAM WOLF: >> Occupation: Farmer >> Religion: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia23 >> Resided 1: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH24 >> Resided 2: 1860, Erie, Miami Co., IN25 >> Resided 3: 1870, Beaver Twp., Newton Co., IN26 >> Resided 4: 1880, Washington, Newton Co., IN27 >> Resided 5: 1900, Mill, Grant Co., IN28 >> >> More About SARAH RINKER: >> Burial: Murphy Cemetery; Morocco, Newton Co., IN29 >> >> More About ABRAHAM WOLF and SARAH RINKER: >> Marriage: 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH30 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Richard, thanks for the information about bond vs. marriage. Does that line "we John of Henry..." look like a good starting place to find the father of John? Would the consent paper be on microfilm at the library? I know that you are great with the Pence history and wonder if you had anything about David and Leah? I think I emailed with you years ago when I started. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard A. Pence Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL The "obligation" you write about in your message below is the marriage bond. What the bond's "obligation" is not an intent to marry. It is meant to assure that there is no legal reason why the marriage should not take place. The most common of these were that both parties were of legal age, that neither were married and that the were not too closely related (per laws of the church or state). The bondsman was not necessarily the father of either the bride or groom. But if David was actually born in 1802, then he was not yet of age. Therefore there needed to be some sort of consent furnished by a parent. Perhaps signed the bond was that consent. If you sent for the marriage record, did you ask for or get all the papers associated with the record. There is often consent slips. I don't know where the marriage bonds are now kept in Shenandoah County, but many years ago they were filed in little file drawers in the clerk's office in Woodstock. I think these contained loose papers as well as the bond, wrapped with a ribbon. Richard Pence Fairfax, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am > attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or > intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we > John > Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of > John. > I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that > is > a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds > 1772-1850" page 81. > > John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was > indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, > Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of > 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced > 1)David > (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's > grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) > > We have not seen any middle initial connected with our David. > > There does appear to be a David F. Wetzel born in the 1790? He is often > confused/interchanged with our David. > [[[[iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 > Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA]]]. This would mean that David F. was born 5 > years > before John and Christina were married. > > Also you will see (attached) that Leah's name is also shown as Feah in > some > genealogy lists. > > Do you have anymore information about our David line? > Send b > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Sandi Komosinski > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > > First of all, thank you to everyone who has contributed their time and > help! > I thought maybe by including a bit on my WETZEL line it may help to > pinpoint > my WOLF line (Mainly John's father). I thought maybe desc. of the > Wetzel/Kauffman lines may recognize my Wolf family. Thx again everyone > for > your time, help, and guidance! I appreciate it very much! > Sandi Komosinski > By the way, I am more than willing to share all the info I have on all > these > lines. > > Descendants of John Wetzel > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. JOHN2 WETZEL (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. 1775 in Shenandoah Co., VA. He > married CHRISTINA COFFMAN 11 Aug 1798 in Shenandoah Co., VA, daughter of > AUGUSTINE COFFMAN/KAUFFMAN and MARY HOUTZ. She was born Abt. 1776. > > Notes for JOHN WETZEL: > > > > Marriage Notes for JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Virginia Marriages to 1800 > Spouse 1: Coffman, Christina > Spouse 2: Wetzel, John > Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1798 > Marriage Location: Virginia > Shenandoah County > > "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81 > WETZEL, John / COFFMAN, Christina > August 11,1798, Bondsman: Saml. Wetzel > > > > More About JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Marriage: 11 Aug 1798, Shenandoah Co., VA > > Children of JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN are: > i. ANNA3 WETZEL, m. HENRY WEAVER, 14 Nov 1827. > > More About HENRY WEAVER and ANNA WETZEL: > Marriage: 14 Nov 1827 > > ii. ELI WETZEL, b. Abt. 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. DIANA ESTEP, 29 Apr > 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. 22 Jul 1818, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Jan 1896. > > More About ELI WETZEL and DIANA ESTEP: > Marriage: 29 Apr 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iii. HENRY WETZEL, m. REBECCA DELLINGER, 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About HENRY WETZEL and REBECCA DELLINGER: > Marriage: 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About DAVID WETZEL and LEAH PENCE: > Marriage: 31 Jul 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA > > 2. v. SOPHIA WETZEL, b. 1798, VA; d. 25 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN. > vi. JOHN WETZEL, b. 1803, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Shenandoah Co., VA; m. > HANNAH H. HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK, 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. Abt. > 1800, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Abt. 1826. > > More About JOHN WETZEL and HANNAH HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK: > Marriage: 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. SOPHIA3 WETZEL (JOHN2, SAMUEL1) was born 1798 in VA, and died 25 Apr > 1885 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN1. She married JOHN WOLF 04 Jul 1820 > in > Shenandoah Co., VA2, son of ADAM WOLF?. He was born 09 Jun 1795 in VA, > and > died 16 Sep 1860 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN. > > Notes for SOPHIA WETZEL: > The 1868 City Directory for Indianapolis shows Sophia WOLF, widow, > boarding > at 65 N. Bright Street and in 1869 at W.S. Minerva 2 South New York > Street. > > On July 22, 1870, in the 4th Ward in Marion Co., IN Sophia was residing > with > her son Erasmus and his wife and son. At this time Sophia was 70 years > old > and her occupation was "braning" in the flour mill in Indianapolis. > WOLF, Erasmus-age 36, born Virginia, cooper > WOLF, Uphias-age 25, born Indiana, keep house > WOLF, John A.-age 7/12, born Indiana, born Nov. > WOLF, Sophia-age 70, born Virginia, braning > > In 1874 Mrs. John Wolf and her son Erasmus resided at 54 N. Geisendorff > Street and in 1880 Sophia resided at 633 W. Vermont Street. > > The following is from the 1880 Federal Census for Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN; June 19,1880; 633 W. Vermont St., Dwelling #513, Family #597: > WOLF, Sophia-age 83, born VA, keeps house, widow, parents born VA > WOLF, Isac-age 36, born VA, cooper, single, parents born VA > > Sophia was listed in the 1880 list of Old Residents in Indianapolis over > age > 65. > > Sophia died in 1885 at the age of 87. The following death notice was > found > for her in the April 25,1885 issue of the "Indianapolis News", page 3, > column 3: "DIED-WOLF, Sophia, in this city in her 87th year. Funeral > from > the residence of Jas. Amos, 2 and Blake St. Sunday at 2 p.m." > > > More About SOPHIA WETZEL: > Burial: 28 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Old Age, age 87 > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA3 > Resided 2: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia4 > Resided 3: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH5 > Resided 4: 1860, N. 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN6 > Resided 5: 1868, 65 N. Bright St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN7 > Resided 6: 1869, 2 South New York St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN8 > Resided 7: 22 Jul 1870, 4th Ward, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN w/son > Erasmus > Resided 8: 1874, 54 N. Geisendorff St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN9 > Resided 9: 1880, 633 W. Vermont St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > Resided 10: 19 Jun 1880, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > > Notes for JOHN WOLF: > John and Sophia had nine children. All of their children were born in > Virginia, in the Forestville/Mount Jackson area of Shenandoah County. For > many, many years it was believed that John and Sophia had a son Otto, born > about 1827 in Virginia. Finally, after some very extensive research, it > is > now believed that there was no Otto. There is an Otto in the Indianapolis > area but after much research this Otto could not be ours as he was born in > Bavaria. And a child of his approximate age never showed up in the > Virginia > or Ohio census records that would have matched up with ours. So as far as > I > am concerned, there was no son named Otto, unless someone can prove > otherwise. > > John and Sophia were found in the 1820 census for Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah > Co., VA: > John Wolf, 1 free white male 16-26 > 1 free white female 16-26 > 1 person engaged in manufacturing > > The 1830 census for the Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia shows > the following: > John Wolf (of Adam) > 2 white males under 5 (Abraham 1824 & William 1825) > 1 white male of 30 under 40 (John 1795) > 2 white females under 5 (Elizabeth 1829 & Sidney Amanda 1830) > 1 white female of 5 & under 10 (Diana 1821) > 1 white female of 30 under 40 (Sophia 1799) > > The family has not been found in any 1840 census for Virginia, Ohio, or > Indiana, even though we do know the family was in Virginia in 1844 as > their > son Isaac was born in Virginia. More research on this needs to be done. > > Around 1848 the family left Virginia by covered wagon and went to > Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio. John had the first kerosene lamp in > Springfield and people from all over came to see it. The following > information was found in the 1850 Federal Census for Springfield, Clark > Co., > OH, August 12,1850, Dwelling 947, Family 965: > WOLF, Jno.-age 55, born VA 1795, Cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 52, born VA 1798 > WOLF, William-age 21, born VA 1829, Cooper > WOLF, Sidney A.-age 16, born VA 1834 > WOLF, Erasmus-age 14, born VA 1836 > WOLF, L.C.-age 12, born VA 1838 > WOLF, Isaac-age 10, born VA 1840 > > Also in Springfield was John and Sophia's son Abraham and his family: > Dwelling 959, Family 977, Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, > Farmer; his wife Sarah, age 25, born 1823 in Virginia; and their two > children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio in 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 > in Ohio. > > John Wolf is listed in the 1852 City Directory for Springfield as a > laborer > and boarding with George Dibert, a brick maker. > > In 1853 the Wolf's left Springfield by train and settled in Indianapolis, > Marion Co., Indiana. > > The following information was found in the 1860 Federal Census for North > 1/2 > Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN; June 12,1860; Dwelling #86, Family #71: > WOLF, John-age 65, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 63, born Virginia > Dwelling #87, Family #71: > WOLF, Erasmns-age 25, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sidney-age 24, born Virginia, Weaver > WOLF, Isaac-age 22, born Virginia, Cooper > UNKUS or ANKUS????, this was not legible, John-age 6/12, born Indiana > (This > could possibly be Sidney's son John Alta Miller although he was supposedly > born in Ohio.) > > John was a cooper (barrel maker) all his life, as were his sons William, > Erasmus, and Isaac. > > John's tombstone, which is still standing after 146 years, in Mt. Jackson > Cemetery in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana reads as: > JOHN WOLF DIED Sept 16 1860 AGED 65 yrs 3 mos 7 da > On the lower portion of the stone is the following: > I have fought the good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept the > faith. > > > More About JOHN WOLF: > Date born 2: 09 Jun 1795, Tombstone states age 65 y 3 m 7 days-Mt. Jackson > Cem., Marion Co., IN11 > Burial: Sep 1860, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 65 > Occupation: Cooper > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA12 > Resided 2: 1830, Shenandoah Co. (Western District), VA13 > Resided 3: 12 Aug 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH14 > Resided 4: 12 Jun 1860, North 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN15 > > More About JOHN WOLF and SOPHIA WETZEL: > Marriage: 04 Jul 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA16 > > Children of SOPHIA WETZEL and JOHN WOLF are: > i. DIANA4 WOLF, b. 18 Mar 1821, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; m. JOHN PRIEST, 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH17; b. Abt. 1826, Clark Co., > OH. > > Notes for DIANA WOLF: > It is not known as of yet if our Diana Wolf is indeed the Diana Wolf that > married John Priest. More research will need to be done. The information > on John Priest is merely being listed for research purposes only at this > time. > > > More About DIANA WOLF: > Baptism: 21 Aug 1821, Shenandoah Co., VA-Godmother Eve Wetzel18 > Resided: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia19 > > More About JOHN PRIEST and DIANA WOLF: > Marriage: 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH20 > > ii. HARRESON WOLF, b. 02 Jul 1822, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah > Co., > VA; d. 19 Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > Notes for HARRESON WOLF: > Tombstone Inscription, Solomon's Church Cemetary, Forestville, Shenandoah > Co., Virginia: > Wolf, Harreson Died: 19 Aug 1823 Son of John & Sophia; age 1.1.17 > > > More About HARRESON WOLF: > Burial: Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA-Solomon's Ch.21 > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 1 yr 1 m 7 d > > iii. ABRAHAM WOLF, b. Apr 1824, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; d. 1904; m. SARAH RINKER, 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH22; b. 31 Dec > 1823, > VA; d. 20 Aug 1882, Indiana. > > Notes for ABRAHAM WOLF: > 1850 Federal Census Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio; Dwelling 959, Family > 977: > Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, Farmer; his wife Sarah, age > 25, > born 1823 in Virginia; and their two children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio > in > 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 in Ohio. > > 1860 Federal Census June 23,1860 Erie Twp., Miami Co., Indiana, Post > Office > Peru: > Abram Wolf, age 34, born Virginia ca 1826; Farmer > Sarah Wolf 37 VA > Peter R Wolf 13 OH > John H Wolf 11 OH > Joseph Wolf 9 > Mary E Wolf 7 > Lydia S Wolf 2 > > 1870 Federal Census Beaver Twp., Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 45, VA, Farmer > Sarah, 46, VA, Keeps House > Peter, 22, OH, At Home > John, 20, OH, At Home > Joseph, 19, OH, At Home > Mary E, 17, OH, At Home > Lydia S, 11, IN, At Home > Edward S, 8, IN, At Home > Sarah J, 6, IN, At Home > > 1880 Federal Census Washington, Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 56, Farmer, born VA, parents also > Sarah, 57, Keeps House, born VA, parents also > Edward, 19, Works On Farm, born IN > Jane, 16, born IN > > 1900 Federal Census Mill, Grant Co., Indiana: > Mary E. Wolf, head, 47, OH, Feb 1853, 1 child, 1 living > Silas Archibald , son, 24, IN, Mar 1876, single > Abraham Wolf, father, 75, VA, Apr 1825, widow > > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF: > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia23 > Resided 1: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH24 > Resided 2: 1860, Erie, Miami Co., IN25 > Resided 3: 1870, Beaver Twp., Newton Co., IN26 > Resided 4: 1880, Washington, Newton Co., IN27 > Resided 5: 1900, Mill, Grant Co., IN28 > > More About SARAH RINKER: > Burial: Murphy Cemetery; Morocco, Newton Co., IN29 > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF and SARAH RINKER: > Marriage: 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH30 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The "obligation" you write about in your message below is the marriage bond. What the bond's "obligation" is not an intent to marry. It is meant to assure that there is no legal reason why the marriage should not take place. The most common of these were that both parties were of legal age, that neither were married and that the were not too closely related (per laws of the church or state). The bondsman was not necessarily the father of either the bride or groom. But if David was actually born in 1802, then he was not yet of age. Therefore there needed to be some sort of consent furnished by a parent. Perhaps signed the bond was that consent. If you sent for the marriage record, did you ask for or get all the papers associated with the record. There is often consent slips. I don't know where the marriage bonds are now kept in Shenandoah County, but many years ago they were filed in little file drawers in the clerk's office in Woodstock. I think these contained loose papers as well as the bond, wrapped with a ribbon. Richard Pence Fairfax, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am > attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or > intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we > John > Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of > John. > I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that > is > a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds > 1772-1850" page 81. > > John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was > indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, > Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of > 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced > 1)David > (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's > grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) > > We have not seen any middle initial connected with our David. > > There does appear to be a David F. Wetzel born in the 1790? He is often > confused/interchanged with our David. > [[[[iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 > Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA]]]. This would mean that David F. was born 5 > years > before John and Christina were married. > > Also you will see (attached) that Leah's name is also shown as Feah in > some > genealogy lists. > > Do you have anymore information about our David line? > Send b > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Sandi Komosinski > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > > First of all, thank you to everyone who has contributed their time and > help! > I thought maybe by including a bit on my WETZEL line it may help to > pinpoint > my WOLF line (Mainly John's father). I thought maybe desc. of the > Wetzel/Kauffman lines may recognize my Wolf family. Thx again everyone > for > your time, help, and guidance! I appreciate it very much! > Sandi Komosinski > By the way, I am more than willing to share all the info I have on all > these > lines. > > Descendants of John Wetzel > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. JOHN2 WETZEL (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. 1775 in Shenandoah Co., VA. He > married CHRISTINA COFFMAN 11 Aug 1798 in Shenandoah Co., VA, daughter of > AUGUSTINE COFFMAN/KAUFFMAN and MARY HOUTZ. She was born Abt. 1776. > > Notes for JOHN WETZEL: > > > > Marriage Notes for JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Virginia Marriages to 1800 > Spouse 1: Coffman, Christina > Spouse 2: Wetzel, John > Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1798 > Marriage Location: Virginia > Shenandoah County > > "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81 > WETZEL, John / COFFMAN, Christina > August 11,1798, Bondsman: Saml. Wetzel > > > > More About JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Marriage: 11 Aug 1798, Shenandoah Co., VA > > Children of JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN are: > i. ANNA3 WETZEL, m. HENRY WEAVER, 14 Nov 1827. > > More About HENRY WEAVER and ANNA WETZEL: > Marriage: 14 Nov 1827 > > ii. ELI WETZEL, b. Abt. 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. DIANA ESTEP, 29 Apr > 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. 22 Jul 1818, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Jan 1896. > > More About ELI WETZEL and DIANA ESTEP: > Marriage: 29 Apr 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iii. HENRY WETZEL, m. REBECCA DELLINGER, 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About HENRY WETZEL and REBECCA DELLINGER: > Marriage: 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About DAVID WETZEL and LEAH PENCE: > Marriage: 31 Jul 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA > > 2. v. SOPHIA WETZEL, b. 1798, VA; d. 25 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN. > vi. JOHN WETZEL, b. 1803, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Shenandoah Co., VA; m. > HANNAH H. HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK, 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. Abt. > 1800, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Abt. 1826. > > More About JOHN WETZEL and HANNAH HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK: > Marriage: 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. SOPHIA3 WETZEL (JOHN2, SAMUEL1) was born 1798 in VA, and died 25 Apr > 1885 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN1. She married JOHN WOLF 04 Jul 1820 > in > Shenandoah Co., VA2, son of ADAM WOLF?. He was born 09 Jun 1795 in VA, > and > died 16 Sep 1860 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN. > > Notes for SOPHIA WETZEL: > The 1868 City Directory for Indianapolis shows Sophia WOLF, widow, > boarding > at 65 N. Bright Street and in 1869 at W.S. Minerva 2 South New York > Street. > > On July 22, 1870, in the 4th Ward in Marion Co., IN Sophia was residing > with > her son Erasmus and his wife and son. At this time Sophia was 70 years > old > and her occupation was "braning" in the flour mill in Indianapolis. > WOLF, Erasmus-age 36, born Virginia, cooper > WOLF, Uphias-age 25, born Indiana, keep house > WOLF, John A.-age 7/12, born Indiana, born Nov. > WOLF, Sophia-age 70, born Virginia, braning > > In 1874 Mrs. John Wolf and her son Erasmus resided at 54 N. Geisendorff > Street and in 1880 Sophia resided at 633 W. Vermont Street. > > The following is from the 1880 Federal Census for Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN; June 19,1880; 633 W. Vermont St., Dwelling #513, Family #597: > WOLF, Sophia-age 83, born VA, keeps house, widow, parents born VA > WOLF, Isac-age 36, born VA, cooper, single, parents born VA > > Sophia was listed in the 1880 list of Old Residents in Indianapolis over > age > 65. > > Sophia died in 1885 at the age of 87. The following death notice was > found > for her in the April 25,1885 issue of the "Indianapolis News", page 3, > column 3: "DIED-WOLF, Sophia, in this city in her 87th year. Funeral > from > the residence of Jas. Amos, 2 and Blake St. Sunday at 2 p.m." > > > More About SOPHIA WETZEL: > Burial: 28 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Old Age, age 87 > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA3 > Resided 2: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia4 > Resided 3: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH5 > Resided 4: 1860, N. 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN6 > Resided 5: 1868, 65 N. Bright St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN7 > Resided 6: 1869, 2 South New York St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN8 > Resided 7: 22 Jul 1870, 4th Ward, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN w/son > Erasmus > Resided 8: 1874, 54 N. Geisendorff St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN9 > Resided 9: 1880, 633 W. Vermont St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > Resided 10: 19 Jun 1880, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > > Notes for JOHN WOLF: > John and Sophia had nine children. All of their children were born in > Virginia, in the Forestville/Mount Jackson area of Shenandoah County. For > many, many years it was believed that John and Sophia had a son Otto, born > about 1827 in Virginia. Finally, after some very extensive research, it > is > now believed that there was no Otto. There is an Otto in the Indianapolis > area but after much research this Otto could not be ours as he was born in > Bavaria. And a child of his approximate age never showed up in the > Virginia > or Ohio census records that would have matched up with ours. So as far as > I > am concerned, there was no son named Otto, unless someone can prove > otherwise. > > John and Sophia were found in the 1820 census for Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah > Co., VA: > John Wolf, 1 free white male 16-26 > 1 free white female 16-26 > 1 person engaged in manufacturing > > The 1830 census for the Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia shows > the following: > John Wolf (of Adam) > 2 white males under 5 (Abraham 1824 & William 1825) > 1 white male of 30 under 40 (John 1795) > 2 white females under 5 (Elizabeth 1829 & Sidney Amanda 1830) > 1 white female of 5 & under 10 (Diana 1821) > 1 white female of 30 under 40 (Sophia 1799) > > The family has not been found in any 1840 census for Virginia, Ohio, or > Indiana, even though we do know the family was in Virginia in 1844 as > their > son Isaac was born in Virginia. More research on this needs to be done. > > Around 1848 the family left Virginia by covered wagon and went to > Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio. John had the first kerosene lamp in > Springfield and people from all over came to see it. The following > information was found in the 1850 Federal Census for Springfield, Clark > Co., > OH, August 12,1850, Dwelling 947, Family 965: > WOLF, Jno.-age 55, born VA 1795, Cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 52, born VA 1798 > WOLF, William-age 21, born VA 1829, Cooper > WOLF, Sidney A.-age 16, born VA 1834 > WOLF, Erasmus-age 14, born VA 1836 > WOLF, L.C.-age 12, born VA 1838 > WOLF, Isaac-age 10, born VA 1840 > > Also in Springfield was John and Sophia's son Abraham and his family: > Dwelling 959, Family 977, Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, > Farmer; his wife Sarah, age 25, born 1823 in Virginia; and their two > children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio in 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 > in Ohio. > > John Wolf is listed in the 1852 City Directory for Springfield as a > laborer > and boarding with George Dibert, a brick maker. > > In 1853 the Wolf's left Springfield by train and settled in Indianapolis, > Marion Co., Indiana. > > The following information was found in the 1860 Federal Census for North > 1/2 > Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN; June 12,1860; Dwelling #86, Family #71: > WOLF, John-age 65, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 63, born Virginia > Dwelling #87, Family #71: > WOLF, Erasmns-age 25, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sidney-age 24, born Virginia, Weaver > WOLF, Isaac-age 22, born Virginia, Cooper > UNKUS or ANKUS????, this was not legible, John-age 6/12, born Indiana > (This > could possibly be Sidney's son John Alta Miller although he was supposedly > born in Ohio.) > > John was a cooper (barrel maker) all his life, as were his sons William, > Erasmus, and Isaac. > > John's tombstone, which is still standing after 146 years, in Mt. Jackson > Cemetery in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana reads as: > JOHN WOLF DIED Sept 16 1860 AGED 65 yrs 3 mos 7 da > On the lower portion of the stone is the following: > I have fought the good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept the > faith. > > > More About JOHN WOLF: > Date born 2: 09 Jun 1795, Tombstone states age 65 y 3 m 7 days-Mt. Jackson > Cem., Marion Co., IN11 > Burial: Sep 1860, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 65 > Occupation: Cooper > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA12 > Resided 2: 1830, Shenandoah Co. (Western District), VA13 > Resided 3: 12 Aug 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH14 > Resided 4: 12 Jun 1860, North 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN15 > > More About JOHN WOLF and SOPHIA WETZEL: > Marriage: 04 Jul 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA16 > > Children of SOPHIA WETZEL and JOHN WOLF are: > i. DIANA4 WOLF, b. 18 Mar 1821, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; m. JOHN PRIEST, 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH17; b. Abt. 1826, Clark Co., > OH. > > Notes for DIANA WOLF: > It is not known as of yet if our Diana Wolf is indeed the Diana Wolf that > married John Priest. More research will need to be done. The information > on John Priest is merely being listed for research purposes only at this > time. > > > More About DIANA WOLF: > Baptism: 21 Aug 1821, Shenandoah Co., VA-Godmother Eve Wetzel18 > Resided: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia19 > > More About JOHN PRIEST and DIANA WOLF: > Marriage: 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH20 > > ii. HARRESON WOLF, b. 02 Jul 1822, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah > Co., > VA; d. 19 Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > Notes for HARRESON WOLF: > Tombstone Inscription, Solomon's Church Cemetary, Forestville, Shenandoah > Co., Virginia: > Wolf, Harreson Died: 19 Aug 1823 Son of John & Sophia; age 1.1.17 > > > More About HARRESON WOLF: > Burial: Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA-Solomon's Ch.21 > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 1 yr 1 m 7 d > > iii. ABRAHAM WOLF, b. Apr 1824, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; d. 1904; m. SARAH RINKER, 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH22; b. 31 Dec > 1823, > VA; d. 20 Aug 1882, Indiana. > > Notes for ABRAHAM WOLF: > 1850 Federal Census Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio; Dwelling 959, Family > 977: > Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, Farmer; his wife Sarah, age > 25, > born 1823 in Virginia; and their two children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio > in > 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 in Ohio. > > 1860 Federal Census June 23,1860 Erie Twp., Miami Co., Indiana, Post > Office > Peru: > Abram Wolf, age 34, born Virginia ca 1826; Farmer > Sarah Wolf 37 VA > Peter R Wolf 13 OH > John H Wolf 11 OH > Joseph Wolf 9 > Mary E Wolf 7 > Lydia S Wolf 2 > > 1870 Federal Census Beaver Twp., Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 45, VA, Farmer > Sarah, 46, VA, Keeps House > Peter, 22, OH, At Home > John, 20, OH, At Home > Joseph, 19, OH, At Home > Mary E, 17, OH, At Home > Lydia S, 11, IN, At Home > Edward S, 8, IN, At Home > Sarah J, 6, IN, At Home > > 1880 Federal Census Washington, Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 56, Farmer, born VA, parents also > Sarah, 57, Keeps House, born VA, parents also > Edward, 19, Works On Farm, born IN > Jane, 16, born IN > > 1900 Federal Census Mill, Grant Co., Indiana: > Mary E. Wolf, head, 47, OH, Feb 1853, 1 child, 1 living > Silas Archibald , son, 24, IN, Mar 1876, single > Abraham Wolf, father, 75, VA, Apr 1825, widow > > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF: > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia23 > Resided 1: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH24 > Resided 2: 1860, Erie, Miami Co., IN25 > Resided 3: 1870, Beaver Twp., Newton Co., IN26 > Resided 4: 1880, Washington, Newton Co., IN27 > Resided 5: 1900, Mill, Grant Co., IN28 > > More About SARAH RINKER: > Burial: Murphy Cemetery; Morocco, Newton Co., IN29 > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF and SARAH RINKER: > Marriage: 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH30 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi! I'm sorry I have no new info at this time but have you been in touch with Connie Harshbarger? She may be able to help you-her email address is [email protected] Give her a try-I'll bet she can help. Keep in touch and I'll do the same. Tomorrow I will dig out my notes etc and see what I can dig up! Thx for writing! Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Whetzel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > Sandy, I have been looking over the information on John Wetzel and I am > attaching a copy of John Wetzel and Christiana Coffman's "obligation" or > intent to marry. Let me know if you think that the first line says "we > John > Wetzel of Henry Wetzel" and does this mean that Henry is the father of > John. > I see that Samuel Wetzel's name is on the bottom and I thought maybe that > is > a bondsman signature as you sited "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds > 1772-1850" page 81. > > John's son David Wetzel is my husband's line. We feel that our David was > indeed born around 1802, married Leah Pence in July of 1882, had James, > Rebecca, Sidney Ann and Peter) and then married Rachael Slater in May of > 1868, when he was 66 years old. This is the marriage that produced > 1)David > (never married d. 10 Oct 1949) 2)Sarah 3)William McCauley(my husband's > grandfather), and 4) Eliza (see above bond/marriage licenses.) > > We have not seen any middle initial connected with our David. > > There does appear to be a David F. Wetzel born in the 1790? He is often > confused/interchanged with our David. > [[[[iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 > Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA]]]. This would mean that David F. was born 5 > years > before John and Christina were married. > > Also you will see (attached) that Leah's name is also shown as Feah in > some > genealogy lists. > > Do you have anymore information about our David line? > Send b > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Sandi Komosinski > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [VASHENAN] WOLF/WETZEL > > First of all, thank you to everyone who has contributed their time and > help! > I thought maybe by including a bit on my WETZEL line it may help to > pinpoint > my WOLF line (Mainly John's father). I thought maybe desc. of the > Wetzel/Kauffman lines may recognize my Wolf family. Thx again everyone > for > your time, help, and guidance! I appreciate it very much! > Sandi Komosinski > By the way, I am more than willing to share all the info I have on all > these > lines. > > Descendants of John Wetzel > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. JOHN2 WETZEL (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. 1775 in Shenandoah Co., VA. He > married CHRISTINA COFFMAN 11 Aug 1798 in Shenandoah Co., VA, daughter of > AUGUSTINE COFFMAN/KAUFFMAN and MARY HOUTZ. She was born Abt. 1776. > > Notes for JOHN WETZEL: > > > > Marriage Notes for JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Virginia Marriages to 1800 > Spouse 1: Coffman, Christina > Spouse 2: Wetzel, John > Marriage Date: 11 Aug 1798 > Marriage Location: Virginia > Shenandoah County > > "Shenandoah County Marriage Bonds 1772-1850" page 81 > WETZEL, John / COFFMAN, Christina > August 11,1798, Bondsman: Saml. Wetzel > > > > More About JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN: > Marriage: 11 Aug 1798, Shenandoah Co., VA > > Children of JOHN WETZEL and CHRISTINA COFFMAN are: > i. ANNA3 WETZEL, m. HENRY WEAVER, 14 Nov 1827. > > More About HENRY WEAVER and ANNA WETZEL: > Marriage: 14 Nov 1827 > > ii. ELI WETZEL, b. Abt. 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. DIANA ESTEP, 29 Apr > 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. 22 Jul 1818, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Jan 1896. > > More About ELI WETZEL and DIANA ESTEP: > Marriage: 29 Apr 1837, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iii. HENRY WETZEL, m. REBECCA DELLINGER, 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About HENRY WETZEL and REBECCA DELLINGER: > Marriage: 09 Nov 1838, Shenandoah Co., VA > > iv. DAVID F. WETZEL, b. 1793, Shenandoah Co., VA; m. LEAH PENCE, 31 Jul > 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > More About DAVID WETZEL and LEAH PENCE: > Marriage: 31 Jul 1822, Shenandoah Co., VA > > 2. v. SOPHIA WETZEL, b. 1798, VA; d. 25 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN. > vi. JOHN WETZEL, b. 1803, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Shenandoah Co., VA; m. > HANNAH H. HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK, 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA; b. Abt. > 1800, Shenandoah Co., VA; d. Abt. 1826. > > More About JOHN WETZEL and HANNAH HORSAFLUKE/HAUSENFLUCK: > Marriage: 28 Jun 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. SOPHIA3 WETZEL (JOHN2, SAMUEL1) was born 1798 in VA, and died 25 Apr > 1885 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN1. She married JOHN WOLF 04 Jul 1820 > in > Shenandoah Co., VA2, son of ADAM WOLF?. He was born 09 Jun 1795 in VA, > and > died 16 Sep 1860 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN. > > Notes for SOPHIA WETZEL: > The 1868 City Directory for Indianapolis shows Sophia WOLF, widow, > boarding > at 65 N. Bright Street and in 1869 at W.S. Minerva 2 South New York > Street. > > On July 22, 1870, in the 4th Ward in Marion Co., IN Sophia was residing > with > her son Erasmus and his wife and son. At this time Sophia was 70 years > old > and her occupation was "braning" in the flour mill in Indianapolis. > WOLF, Erasmus-age 36, born Virginia, cooper > WOLF, Uphias-age 25, born Indiana, keep house > WOLF, John A.-age 7/12, born Indiana, born Nov. > WOLF, Sophia-age 70, born Virginia, braning > > In 1874 Mrs. John Wolf and her son Erasmus resided at 54 N. Geisendorff > Street and in 1880 Sophia resided at 633 W. Vermont Street. > > The following is from the 1880 Federal Census for Indianapolis, Marion > Co., > IN; June 19,1880; 633 W. Vermont St., Dwelling #513, Family #597: > WOLF, Sophia-age 83, born VA, keeps house, widow, parents born VA > WOLF, Isac-age 36, born VA, cooper, single, parents born VA > > Sophia was listed in the 1880 list of Old Residents in Indianapolis over > age > 65. > > Sophia died in 1885 at the age of 87. The following death notice was > found > for her in the April 25,1885 issue of the "Indianapolis News", page 3, > column 3: "DIED-WOLF, Sophia, in this city in her 87th year. Funeral > from > the residence of Jas. Amos, 2 and Blake St. Sunday at 2 p.m." > > > More About SOPHIA WETZEL: > Burial: 28 Apr 1885, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Old Age, age 87 > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA3 > Resided 2: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia4 > Resided 3: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH5 > Resided 4: 1860, N. 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN6 > Resided 5: 1868, 65 N. Bright St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN7 > Resided 6: 1869, 2 South New York St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN8 > Resided 7: 22 Jul 1870, 4th Ward, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN w/son > Erasmus > Resided 8: 1874, 54 N. Geisendorff St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN9 > Resided 9: 1880, 633 W. Vermont St., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > Resided 10: 19 Jun 1880, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN10 > > Notes for JOHN WOLF: > John and Sophia had nine children. All of their children were born in > Virginia, in the Forestville/Mount Jackson area of Shenandoah County. For > many, many years it was believed that John and Sophia had a son Otto, born > about 1827 in Virginia. Finally, after some very extensive research, it > is > now believed that there was no Otto. There is an Otto in the Indianapolis > area but after much research this Otto could not be ours as he was born in > Bavaria. And a child of his approximate age never showed up in the > Virginia > or Ohio census records that would have matched up with ours. So as far as > I > am concerned, there was no son named Otto, unless someone can prove > otherwise. > > John and Sophia were found in the 1820 census for Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah > Co., VA: > John Wolf, 1 free white male 16-26 > 1 free white female 16-26 > 1 person engaged in manufacturing > > The 1830 census for the Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia shows > the following: > John Wolf (of Adam) > 2 white males under 5 (Abraham 1824 & William 1825) > 1 white male of 30 under 40 (John 1795) > 2 white females under 5 (Elizabeth 1829 & Sidney Amanda 1830) > 1 white female of 5 & under 10 (Diana 1821) > 1 white female of 30 under 40 (Sophia 1799) > > The family has not been found in any 1840 census for Virginia, Ohio, or > Indiana, even though we do know the family was in Virginia in 1844 as > their > son Isaac was born in Virginia. More research on this needs to be done. > > Around 1848 the family left Virginia by covered wagon and went to > Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio. John had the first kerosene lamp in > Springfield and people from all over came to see it. The following > information was found in the 1850 Federal Census for Springfield, Clark > Co., > OH, August 12,1850, Dwelling 947, Family 965: > WOLF, Jno.-age 55, born VA 1795, Cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 52, born VA 1798 > WOLF, William-age 21, born VA 1829, Cooper > WOLF, Sidney A.-age 16, born VA 1834 > WOLF, Erasmus-age 14, born VA 1836 > WOLF, L.C.-age 12, born VA 1838 > WOLF, Isaac-age 10, born VA 1840 > > Also in Springfield was John and Sophia's son Abraham and his family: > Dwelling 959, Family 977, Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, > Farmer; his wife Sarah, age 25, born 1823 in Virginia; and their two > children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio in 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 > in Ohio. > > John Wolf is listed in the 1852 City Directory for Springfield as a > laborer > and boarding with George Dibert, a brick maker. > > In 1853 the Wolf's left Springfield by train and settled in Indianapolis, > Marion Co., Indiana. > > The following information was found in the 1860 Federal Census for North > 1/2 > Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN; June 12,1860; Dwelling #86, Family #71: > WOLF, John-age 65, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sophia-age 63, born Virginia > Dwelling #87, Family #71: > WOLF, Erasmns-age 25, born Virginia, occupation: cooper > WOLF, Sidney-age 24, born Virginia, Weaver > WOLF, Isaac-age 22, born Virginia, Cooper > UNKUS or ANKUS????, this was not legible, John-age 6/12, born Indiana > (This > could possibly be Sidney's son John Alta Miller although he was supposedly > born in Ohio.) > > John was a cooper (barrel maker) all his life, as were his sons William, > Erasmus, and Isaac. > > John's tombstone, which is still standing after 146 years, in Mt. Jackson > Cemetery in Indianapolis, Marion County, Indiana reads as: > JOHN WOLF DIED Sept 16 1860 AGED 65 yrs 3 mos 7 da > On the lower portion of the stone is the following: > I have fought the good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept the > faith. > > > More About JOHN WOLF: > Date born 2: 09 Jun 1795, Tombstone states age 65 y 3 m 7 days-Mt. Jackson > Cem., Marion Co., IN11 > Burial: Sep 1860, Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN-Mt. Jackson Cem. > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 65 > Occupation: Cooper > Resided 1: 1820, Mt. Pleasant, Shenandoah Co., VA12 > Resided 2: 1830, Shenandoah Co. (Western District), VA13 > Resided 3: 12 Aug 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH14 > Resided 4: 12 Jun 1860, North 1/2 Centre Twp., Marion Co., IN15 > > More About JOHN WOLF and SOPHIA WETZEL: > Marriage: 04 Jul 1820, Shenandoah Co., VA16 > > Children of SOPHIA WETZEL and JOHN WOLF are: > i. DIANA4 WOLF, b. 18 Mar 1821, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; m. JOHN PRIEST, 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH17; b. Abt. 1826, Clark Co., > OH. > > Notes for DIANA WOLF: > It is not known as of yet if our Diana Wolf is indeed the Diana Wolf that > married John Priest. More research will need to be done. The information > on John Priest is merely being listed for research purposes only at this > time. > > > More About DIANA WOLF: > Baptism: 21 Aug 1821, Shenandoah Co., VA-Godmother Eve Wetzel18 > Resided: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia19 > > More About JOHN PRIEST and DIANA WOLF: > Marriage: 10 Mar 1846, Clark Co., OH20 > > ii. HARRESON WOLF, b. 02 Jul 1822, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah > Co., > VA; d. 19 Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA. > > Notes for HARRESON WOLF: > Tombstone Inscription, Solomon's Church Cemetary, Forestville, Shenandoah > Co., Virginia: > Wolf, Harreson Died: 19 Aug 1823 Son of John & Sophia; age 1.1.17 > > > More About HARRESON WOLF: > Burial: Aug 1823, Forestville, Shenandoah Co., VA-Solomon's Ch.21 > Cause of Death: Cause unknown, age 1 yr 1 m 7 d > > iii. ABRAHAM WOLF, b. Apr 1824, Forestville/Mt. Jackson, Shenandoah Co., > VA; d. 1904; m. SARAH RINKER, 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH22; b. 31 Dec > 1823, > VA; d. 20 Aug 1882, Indiana. > > Notes for ABRAHAM WOLF: > 1850 Federal Census Springfield, Clark Co., Ohio; Dwelling 959, Family > 977: > Abraham WOLF, age 26, born 1824 in Virginia, Farmer; his wife Sarah, age > 25, > born 1823 in Virginia; and their two children, Peter, age 2 born in Ohio > in > 1848 and J.A., age 11/12 born 1849 in Ohio. > > 1860 Federal Census June 23,1860 Erie Twp., Miami Co., Indiana, Post > Office > Peru: > Abram Wolf, age 34, born Virginia ca 1826; Farmer > Sarah Wolf 37 VA > Peter R Wolf 13 OH > John H Wolf 11 OH > Joseph Wolf 9 > Mary E Wolf 7 > Lydia S Wolf 2 > > 1870 Federal Census Beaver Twp., Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 45, VA, Farmer > Sarah, 46, VA, Keeps House > Peter, 22, OH, At Home > John, 20, OH, At Home > Joseph, 19, OH, At Home > Mary E, 17, OH, At Home > Lydia S, 11, IN, At Home > Edward S, 8, IN, At Home > Sarah J, 6, IN, At Home > > 1880 Federal Census Washington, Newton Co., Indiana: > Abraham Wolf, 56, Farmer, born VA, parents also > Sarah, 57, Keeps House, born VA, parents also > Edward, 19, Works On Farm, born IN > Jane, 16, born IN > > 1900 Federal Census Mill, Grant Co., Indiana: > Mary E. Wolf, head, 47, OH, Feb 1853, 1 child, 1 living > Silas Archibald , son, 24, IN, Mar 1876, single > Abraham Wolf, father, 75, VA, Apr 1825, widow > > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF: > Occupation: Farmer > Religion: 1830, Western District in Shenandoah Co., Virginia23 > Resided 1: 1850, Springfield, Clark Co., OH24 > Resided 2: 1860, Erie, Miami Co., IN25 > Resided 3: 1870, Beaver Twp., Newton Co., IN26 > Resided 4: 1880, Washington, Newton Co., IN27 > Resided 5: 1900, Mill, Grant Co., IN28 > > More About SARAH RINKER: > Burial: Murphy Cemetery; Morocco, Newton Co., IN29 > > More About ABRAHAM WOLF and SARAH RINKER: > Marriage: 12 Oct 1846, Clark Co., OH30 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >