I do see a mention in the will of Elizabeth Zirkle, widow of George Adam Zirkle a daughter listed as "Catherine McCarty". Will dated 29 Aug 1821 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up >I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > David or Daniel McCarty > thanks, > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara & George Grenier > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Will Book O, page 310 Christian Magart, Shenandoah County Wife: Margaret - the place upon which I now live containing about 201 acres during her natural life. Son Isaac - the above place after her death. Dau: Mary Rothgeb. Mentions; land purchased of John Mauck adjoining land of David Rothgeb, Sen. Grandchildren: (the children of my deceased daughter Barbara Kaufman), Mary Gander, Anna Kaufman, Barbara Kaufman, Frances Kaufman, Martin Kaufman. Exor: John Varner Wit: W.C. Lauck, Henry Strickler and David Stickler. Dated: 25 Mar 1828, Proven: 12 May 1828. Will Book A, page 78 David Magert - Colony of Virginia, in Frederick County. Wife: Margaret. Children: David (oldest), Bence, Daniel, John, Henry, Rudolph, and Elizabeth. Exors: Jacob Sheafer and Henry Mauk Wit: George Kuntz, John Magert and Peter Roadcap Dated: 23 Dec 1770, Proven 23 may 1775 Will Book F, page 384 Benjamin Maggert, Shenandoah County Wife: Susana Maggert Children: not named Exors: Christian Alshite and Thomas Newman Wit: Jacob Maggert and Barbara Newman Dated: 05 Sep 1805, Proved 09 Dec 1805 Hope this helps! CH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > How about Maggert or Maggard? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CA HACKER > To: vashenan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi, > I did not see any wills for a McCarty listed but did see this: > Will Book A, Page 250 > John MacCanthur, Senior, Shanando County, Colony of Virginia. > Wife: Rozeanah. Sons: John, Frederick, Daniel, David. > No Exor named > Wit: John and Frederick McEntor > Dated 25 Jun 1799, Proved 29 July 1799 > This is as close to the McCarty name that I saw in the book. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> > To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > >I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > > David or Daniel McCarty > > thanks, > > Patti > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Barbara & George Grenier > > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > > > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > > wouldn't be in that book > > > > Barbara > > Southern California > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry about that! I was thinking of Frederick Woolslegel. The admin. of the will was a Woolford Cathy Marin Co., CA "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast" - unknown

This Frederick had married into the Nisely/Knisleyfamily. Cathy In a message dated 7/24/2010 12:05:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cajalz@comcast.net writes: Hi, Did not see any Wolford wills. Did see a Frederick Woolford/Woodford as an Exor.and witness to the will of Benjamin Layman in 1787. and an Exor of the will of Anthony Nisely in 1777. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Silkey" <598581@twcny.rr.com> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up >I am looking for wills of the Wolford/Woolford/Wohlfarth family, > especially Frederick. Looking for names of sons. > Nancy J Sikey > On Jul 24, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen wrote: > > I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > David or Daniel McCarty > thanks, > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara & George Grenier > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Did not see any Wolford wills. Did see a Frederick Woolford/Woodford as an Exor.and witness to the will of Benjamin Layman in 1787. and an Exor of the will of Anthony Nisely in 1777. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Silkey" <598581@twcny.rr.com> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up >I am looking for wills of the Wolford/Woolford/Wohlfarth family, > especially Frederick. Looking for names of sons. > Nancy J Sikey > On Jul 24, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen wrote: > > I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > David or Daniel McCarty > thanks, > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara & George Grenier > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I did not see a Ludwig will but did see: 1. Joseph Ludwig was a witness for a codical to the will of Jacob Emswiller in 1832. 2. Joseph Ludwick was a witness to the will of Henry Lambert in 1843 3. In the will of Joseph Moore, 1820 he mentions some land that he bought from Jacob Ludwig. It seems that this land was on or near "Holeman Creek". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara & George Grenier" <grenier@earthlink.net> To: <VASHENAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:13 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I did not see any wills for a McCarty listed but did see this: Will Book A, Page 250 John MacCanthur, Senior, Shanando County, Colony of Virginia. Wife: Rozeanah. Sons: John, Frederick, Daniel, David. No Exor named Wit: John and Frederick McEntor Dated 25 Jun 1799, Proved 29 July 1799 This is as close to the McCarty name that I saw in the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up >I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > David or Daniel McCarty > thanks, > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara & George Grenier > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you At 11:51 AM 7/24/2010, you wrote: >Hi, >I did not see a Ludwig will but did see: >1. Joseph Ludwig was a witness for a codical to the will of Jacob Emswiller >in 1832. >2. Joseph Ludwick was a witness to the will of Henry Lambert in 1843 >3. In the will of Joseph Moore, 1820 he mentions some land that he bought >from Jacob Ludwig. It seems that this land was on or near "Holeman Creek". > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barbara & George Grenier" <grenier@earthlink.net> >To: <VASHENAN@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:13 AM >Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > > wouldn't be in that book > > > > Barbara > > Southern California

How about Maggert or Maggard? ----- Original Message ----- From: CA HACKER To: vashenan@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up Hi, I did not see any wills for a McCarty listed but did see this: Will Book A, Page 250 John MacCanthur, Senior, Shanando County, Colony of Virginia. Wife: Rozeanah. Sons: John, Frederick, Daniel, David. No Exor named Wit: John and Frederick McEntor Dated 25 Jun 1799, Proved 29 July 1799 This is as close to the McCarty name that I saw in the book. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <vashenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up >I also have a will look up if someone has this book. > David or Daniel McCarty > thanks, > Patti > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara & George Grenier > To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM > Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up > > > Hi all > > Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of > Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath > > I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills > > Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so > wouldn't be in that book > > Barbara > Southern California > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for wills of the Wolford/Woolford/Wohlfarth family, especially Frederick. Looking for names of sons. Nancy J Sikey On Jul 24, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen wrote: I also have a will look up if someone has this book. David or Daniel McCarty thanks, Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara & George Grenier To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up Hi all Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so wouldn't be in that book Barbara Southern California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also have a will look up if someone has this book. David or Daniel McCarty thanks, Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara & George Grenier To: VASHENAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:13 AM Subject: [VASHENAN] Wills, administrations look up Hi all Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so wouldn't be in that book Barbara Southern California ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to VASHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Does anyone have this book? Shenandoah County, Virginia Abstracts of Wills, 1772-1850 By Amelia C. Gilreath I am looking for LUDWIG/LUDWICK wills Also a will for Philip Ludwig/Ludwick He was on the 1850 census so wouldn't be in that book Barbara Southern California

Vashenan Listmates, Here is another correction and Revised List of the children of Jacob Rinker Jr. Hopefully, this time it is correct! Gloria ------------------------------ CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR. & MARY FRAVEL 1. Elizabeth Rinker, born 1812 2. Samuel Rinker, born 1814 3. Mary Rinker, born 1816 4. Henry St. John Rinker, born 1819 5. Jacob George Rinker, born 1821 CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR. & ELIZABETH HAAS 6. Catharine Rinker, born 1823, died 1837, unmarried and without issue 7. Robert Michael Rinker, born 17 May 1825, died 1825 8. Thomas Jefferson Rinker, born circa 1826-27

Vashenan Listmates, Thanks to one of my benefactors in Shenandoah County, who sent me the following information for which I am very grateful. As you can see the tombstone for Jacob G. Rinker states "son of Jacob and Mary Rinker" so that pretty much answers my question as to which was his mother. It will forever remain a mystery as to why the clerk worded the Chancery Record the way he did. Perhaps the Clerk when recording it, couldn't read the writing clearly and put "of "but meant "over the age of fourteen" It is amazing how one word can change the meaning of a document so quickly. But now it is all clear! We were surprised to see that there was a daughter Elizabeth Rinker born to Jacob Rinker Jr. and Mary Fravel and she is not named in the Will of Jacob Rinker Jr., so she must not have lived passed infancy. ----------------------------- Revised List of the Children of Jacob Rinker Jr. CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR. & MARY FRAVEL 1. Elizabeth Rinker, born 1812 1. Samuel Rinker, born 1814 2. Mary Rinker, born 1816 3. Henry St. John Rinker, born 1819 4. Robert Michael Rinker, born 1820, died 1820 5. Jacob George Rinker, born 1821 CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR & ELIZABETH HAAS 5. Catharine Rinker, born 1823, died 1837 6. Thomas Jefferson Rinker, born circa 1826-27 It would be really helpful if we could find Thomas Jefferson Rinker in the 1900 census. ------------------------------- Tombstone Inscriptions at Reformed Church Cemetery, Woodstock, Virginia. Jacob G Rinker Son of Jacob and Mary Rinker May 21 1821- April 18 1844. Diannah G. Rinker Wife of Jacob G. Rinker 1 December 1818 - 5 July 1847 Mary Rinker Wife of Jacob Rinker, Jr 18 June 1791- 8 June 1821 Jacob Rinker b. 1779 - d. July 1831 Reformed Church Records Woodstock, Shenandoah County, Virginia Jacob Rinker Jr and Mary his wife had Elizabeth Rinker was born 29 July 1812 Samuel Rinker was born 18 March 1814 Mary Rinker was born 18 August 1816 Henry St. John Rinker was born 28 February 1819 Jacob George Rinker was born 30 May 1820 Jacob Rinker and Elizabeth his wife Catherine Rinker was born 25 July 1823 Robert Michael Rinker born 17 May 1825 Baptized 25 September 1825 Funerals attended by John William Coffman found in the same church book. Jacob G. Rinker age 23 years 3 months, 30 August 1844 No birth record for Thomas Jefferson Rinker son of Jacob Rinker Jr and Elizabeth Haas. But there is a tomb for SALLEY E. RINKER daughter of Thomas and Ann Hill (Kilby) Rinker b. 1855 d. 9 June 1861. She was 2 years on the 1860 census. 1860 Federal Census: Virginia Woodstock, Shenandoah County Enumerated 12 June 1860 Page 32/858 Lines 12-16, HH 219/219 Thomas J. Rinker 32/Male/$33000-$3356/VA Ann H. Rinker 32/Female/$2400-$296/VA {Ann H. Kilby} Edward H. Rinker 4/Male/VA Sallie E. Rinker 2/Female/VA {Died 9 June 1861} Annie L. Rinker 1/Female/VA ----------------------- Some information sent to me by a friend, revised and submitted by Gloria Bushong

Good Morning Vashenan Listmates, We have a very loose end in the Bushong family. Since this family intermarried so much with the Valley families, we are putting this on the List in hopes that someone else may have a loose end in their lineage, that may connect to these Bushongs. Notice that one of the documents in the settlement of Jacob Bushong's estate below shows one of the appraisers was Christian Hottel. Jacob and Juliana had 11 children living at the time of his death. -------------------------------- Jacob Bushong married Juliana Weigel.They came from Manchester, York County, Pennsylvania. Jacob died leaving a Will in Augusta County in 1812 and he and wife are buried at Churchville. So many of the Shenandoah families went to this area. He did not name his children individually in his Will but he had one son named Jacob and a ton of daughters. His brothers lived in Shenandoah County and he owned land in Shenandoah, Rockingham, Augusta and Pendleton Counties at various times. He also served in the Revolutionary War. This Jacob Bushong is not to be confused with Jacob Bushong, son of Peter Bushong and Barbara Wenger, and who married Catharine Cline. (Boschong Archives April 2007). To see all of our posts on the family of Jacob Bushong and Juliana Weigel go to the BOSCHONG Archives at Rootsweb for January 2005, January 2007, May 2007, January 2010, February 2010, and March 2010 among others. ------------------------------- Augusta County Virginia Will Book 11 Pages 124-126 3 April 1812 Agreeable to an order of Court we the appraisers have made an Inventory of the Property of Jacob Bushong, deceased, this third day of April one thousand eight hundred and twelve and is as follows viz. (Inventory follows). In addition to personal estate inventory, the following is included: 20 acres of land, . To an article of agreement between Jacob Bushong deceased and Henry Accord in the purchase of a plantation in Pendleton County the said Accord is indebted to the estate of Jacob Bushong deceased, the sum of two hundred and fifty pounds bearing interest from the different installments described in the said Article bearing date the 5th day of November 1806. Appraisers - James Kirk, Daniel Fall, Christian Hottel. Ordered recorded on 22 June 1812. ----------------------------- Son: Jacob Bushong Jr. married Eve Bossert Daughters: Barbara Bushong married to Jacob Harshbarger Catharine Bushong married Peter Link Juliana Bushong married Peter Nicholas Margaret Bushong married Philip Null Cloe Bushong married Philip Miller Eve Bushong married Philip Haines Susannah Bushong married Henry Accord Maria Elizabeth Bushong married John Mathias Amend Sarah "Sally" Bushong married John Herrington Mary Bushong married Benjamin Agle ------------------------------- Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong

Gloria, Thanks, I knew you could straighten me out. Tomorrow I will start fresh! Chocy

Good Evening Chocy, To answer your question., I believe that you are looking at a totally different Jacob Rinker. See below. Shenandoah County Chancery Suit 1844-007 Peter Miller VS Thomas Jefferson Rinker To the County Court of Shenandoah County in Chancery sitting: Respectively complaining sheweth unto the court, your orator, Peter Miller, of said county, that in the division of the lands of Jacob Rinker Jr. deceased, there was assigned jointly to Catharine and Thomas J. Rinker, two of the children of said Jacob Rinker, a tract of land lying in said county on Black Oak Ridge containing Eighty six acres and three quarters. That the said Catharine Rinker afterwards died under age, unmarried and without issue, leaving her interest in said land to descend to the said Thomas J. Rinker a brother of the whole blood, to Samuel Rinker, Henry St. John Rinker and Jacob George Rinker brothers of the half blood and to Mary the wife of Daniel Fravel, a sister of the half blood, ............. It goes on, but there's no point in putting it on the List. You can read it in it's entirety on the Library of Virginia website. >From this Chancery suit, we are now wondering exactly which is correct. That Jacob George Rinker is a son of Mary Fravel or that he is a son of Elizabeth Haas. We just can't figure out how two boys could be fourteen years of age as referred to in the Chancery Suit and not be twins, unless one was born in the very beginning of the year and the other born at the end of the same year. But then again, that doesn't work for the death of Jacob Rinker Jr. in 1831. So, since the court chancery records are contradictory in nature from case to case, and census records are not there for Jacob George Rinker to compare with brother Thomas J. Rinker, therefore, put Jacob George Rinker with which ever mother you prefer. My brain is fried for the night! Gloria B.

Hi Gloria, Its the end of the day for me, so probably not a good time to start on your post; but before I forget this is what I had on Catherine RINKER, the one I have listed as the daughter of Jacob RINKER and his wife, Mary FRAVEL. "Shenandoah County, Virginia Marriage Bonds, 1772-1853" Godfrey MILLER to Catherine RINKER; 6 Jun 1829; Shenandaoh County, Virginia; daughter of Jacob RINKER. Spelled: Godfrey MILLER, Jr.. Bond Book If the Catherine RINKER that married Godfrey MILLER in 1829 was 18-20 years old at the time of her marriage she would have been born between 1809-1811. If I have the right Jacob RINKER, than this Catherine would be the daughter of Mary FRAVEL. They were married 20 Mar 1808. I, also have a Rebecca RINKER that married Jonathan MILLER on 1 Nov 1824; Shenandoah County, Virginia. Bondsman: Jacob RINKER. Bond Book If I have the right Jacob RINKER, than Rebecca RINKER would be the sister to Catherine and Jonathan MILLER would be a brother to Godfrey MILLER, Jr., the sons of Godfrey MILLER, Sr. and his wife, Barbara Andrick FUNKHOUSER, the daughter of Isaac FUNKHOUSER, who had his will translated from German to English by a Jacob RINKER. I haven't gone over all the post, so you may already have explained it all. Chocy

Vashenan Subscribers, I should know better then to post when I am so tired, which I am at this point. I told you in the first couple of posts that we had determined based on the Chancery Suit of 1840 that Thomas J. Rinker and Jacob George Rinker were twins. Then when we posted, we messed up and put Jacob George as son of Mary Fravel. Please correct this as he was the twin brother of Thomas J. Rinker and the son of Jacob Rinker Jr and second wife Elizabeth Hass. CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR. & MARY FRAVEL 1. Samuel Rinker, born 1814 2. Mary Rinker, Born 1816 3. Henry St. John Rinker, born 1819 4. Robert Rinker, born 1820, died 1820 CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR & ELIZABETH HAAS 5. Catharine Rinker, born 1823, died 1837 6. Thomas J. Rinker, born circa 1826 twin 7. Jacob George Rinker, born circa 1826, twin Thanks, Gloria Bushong

CONTINUATION: MARY FRAVEL, D/O GEORGE FRAVEL SR. & ELIZABETH BUSHONG, VA. Part 7 ----------------------- JACOB RINKER JR MARRIED FOR A SECOND TIME IN 1822 TO ELIZABETH HAAS CHILDREN OF JACOB RINKER JR. AND ELIZABETH HAAS: 6. CATHARINE RINKER Born: 1823, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: 1837, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died Single and without issue Burial: Probably St. Pauls Reformed Church Cemetery, Woodstock, Shenandoah County, VA ----------------------- 7. THOMAS J. RINKER Born: 1826, Shenandoah County, Virginia Died: Between 1880 and 1900, possibly in Culpeper County, Virginia (based on obit of last wife) Married Twice: M/1: 5 September 1848 by Thomas Holtzman in Rappahannock County, Virginia to ANN HILL KILBY, d/o Leroy Kilby & Sarah Lee Hill. M/2: 23 November 1876 to ELIZABETH FISHER BROBECK, Widow of Philip ELIZABETH FISHER Born: d/o George & Catharine Fisher Died: 17 December 1900 Burial: Cedar Grove Cemetery, Mt. Jackson, north of New Market, Virginia NOTE: Yes, we are aware that the Rinker book states that he married an Anna Clay but this is an error unless he married three times, since we have the marriage document from Rappahannock County below. Ann H. Kilby's full name was Ann Hill Kilby somehow related to Thomas J. Rinker's father Jacob Rinker Jr. who was a business partner with John N. Hill in Woodstock. -------------------- To the Clerk of Rappahannock County Court. I have soleminized the following marriages in assurance of marriage licenses issued from your office: 5 September 1848 - Thomas J. Rinker of Shenandoah County to Ann H. Kilby Given under my hand this 22nd day of January 1849. Thomas Holtzman Duly Recorded by W. J. Menefee, Clerk of the Court, Rappahannock County, Virginia Bond was provided by James O. Kilby. KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS, That we, Thomas J. Rinker and James O. Kilby are held and firmly bound unto the commonwealth of Virginia in the just and full sum of One hundred and fifty Dollars to which payment well and truly to be made to the said Commonwealth of Virignia, we bind ourselves, our and each of our heirs, executors and administrators, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals, and dated this 4th day of September 1848. The condition of the above obligation is such, That whereas there is a marriage shortly intended to be solomenized between the above bound Thomas J. Rinker of Shenandoah County and Ann Hill Kilby daughter of Leroy Kilby of Rappahannock County. Now, if there be no lawful cause to obstruct the said marriage, then the above obligation to be void; otherwise to remain in full force and virtue. Thomas J. Rinker James O. Kilby W. J. Menefee, Clerk Age of Ann H. Kilby proved by James O. Kilby Age of Thomas J. Rinker, son of late Jacob Rinker Jr. of Shenandoah County proved by James G. Fravel and by William Moreland JP & Guardian of Thomas J. Rinker in Shenandoah County, Virginia on 5 September 1848. --------------------- Rappahannock County Virginia Marriages Thomas J. Rinker Married: 5 September 1848 Ann H. Kilby --------------------- Ann Hill Kilby died in 1873 and Thomas J. Rinker married a second time to the Elizabeth Fisher, widow of Philip Brobeck. -------------------------- Shenandoah County Virginia Marriages Elizabeth Fisher, Age 32, Single, d/o George Fisher & Cathrine Sine Married 15 March 1860 Philip Brobeck (Jr.) Age 48, Single, s/o Philip Brobeck Sr. & wife Mary ---------------------- Elizabeth Brobeck, widow of Philip then married Thomas J. Rinker ---------------------- Shenandoah County Virginia Chancery Suit Case #1849-003 Thomas J. Rinker VS David Lambert Partition of land TO THE COUNTY COURT OF SHENANDOAH COURT IN CHANCERY SITTING: Respectfully complaining, Your Orator Thomas J. Rinker, sheweth to the Court, that in the division of the real estate of his late father Jacob Rinker Jr., deceased, there was assigned, among other portions of land, to your Orator and his sister Catharine Rinker, a tract of land lying in said county two miles west of Woodstock on the road leading from said town to Columbia Furnace, containing one hundred acres more or less. That the said Catharine Rinker died under twenty one years of age unmarried and without issue, leaving as her only heirs at law on the part of her father, the said Jacob Rinker Jr. deceased, from whom she devised by devise, her interest in said land, the following persons, to wit: Your Orator who was a brother of the said Catharine of the whole blood and Samuel Rinker, Henry St. John Rinker, and Jacob G. Rinker, brothers and Mary the wife of David H. Fravel as sister of the half blood, That your Orator being thus entitled to an undivided half of the said tract of land as devised from his father and to one undivided third of the other half as one of the heirs of said Catharine Rinker deceased, holds two undivided thirds of the whole and that David Lambert of said county, who purchased the interests of the other heirs, holds the other undivided third, and that your Orator is anxious to have the said land divided so that he may hold and enjoy his interest therein in severally. Your Orator files with this bill an contract made Exhibit A from the Report of the commissioners who divided the lands of said Jacob Rinker Jr. deceased, of record in the clerk's office of this county, which contains a more particular description of said land. To the same therefore that justice may be done and as your Orator can only have complete and adjudged relief in a court of equity where matters of this nature are properly recognizable and relisable. Your Orator prays that said David Lambert may be made Defendant to this bill and answer the same upon oath and that the Court will cause partition of the said tract of land to be made between your Orator and the said David Lambert according to their respective rights and interests as above set forth and grant to your Orator such other and general relief in the premises in the circumstances of the case require and with the Court may seem just and equitable and your Orator will ever pray and etc. William - Bird For Complainant EXHIBIT A Extract from the Division of the Lands of Jacob Rinker Jr. among his heirs as admitted to record 11 March 1835: "And thirdly they assign unto Catharine Rinker and Thomas Rinker jointly the tract of land purchased by their father from John Woods lying two miles west of Woodstock on the road leading from said Town to Columbia Furnace and also the tract of land lying on the Spring hollow (except that part of said tract which has heretofore been assigned their mother as part of her Dower out of the lands of which her former husband died seized and to designate this last mentioned tract more particularly we will say, it is the same which was conveyed to Jacob Rinker Jr. deceased by the heirs of Jacob Rinker Sr. deceased, All which we now respectfully submit to the Court." Given under our hands this 22 day November 1834 David Crawford Samuel Ott William Moreland A Copy Teste Samuel C. Williams, CSC ------------------- NOTE: The Kilby family married in to the Isaac Newton Bushong family which goes back to the Bushongs of the New Market Battlefield. ----------------- 1850 Federal Census: Could not find them anywhere. --------------------- 1860 Federal Census: Virginia Woodstock, Shenandoah County Enumerated 12 June 1860 Page 32/858 Lines 12-16, HH 219/219 Thomas J. Rinker 32/Male/$33000-$3356/VA Ann H. Rinker 32/Female/$2400-$296/VA {Ann H. Kelly} Edward H. Rinker 4/Male/VA Sallie E. Rinker 2/Female/VA Annie L. Rinker 1/Female/VA ------------------------ 1870 Federal Census: Virginia Stonewall District, PO Edinburg, Shenandoah County Enumerated 14 September 1870 Page 801A Lines 20-25, HH 366/366 Thomas J. Rinker 43/Male/White/Farmer/$2500-$250/VA Ann H. Rinker 43/Female/White/KeepsHouse/VA {Ann Hill Kilby} Edwin Rinker 14Male/White/AttendedSchool/VA Anna Rinker 11/Female/White/AttendedSchool/VA Mary Rinker 9/Female/White/VA Henry C. Rinker 2/Male/White/VA ----------------------------- First Wife Ann Hill Kilby died 28 April 1873 near Woodstock, Virginia and Thomas J. Rinker then married in 1876 to widow Elizabeth Brobeck/Brubeck nee Fisher. ---------------------------- 1880 Federal Census: Virginia Stonewall District, ED 84, Shenandoah County Enumerated 9 June 1880 Page 370C Lines 37-39, HH 58/58 Thomas J. Rinker White/Male/52/Shoemaker/VA/VA/VA Elizabeth Rinker White/Female/51/Wife/HouseKeeper/VA/VA/VA {Elizabeth Fisher Brobeck} Henry C. Rinker White/Male/12/Son/Laborer/VA/VA/VA ---------------------- 1900 Federal Census: Virginia Stevensburg Mag. District, Culpeper County Enumerated 22 & 23 June 1900 Page 128B, Sheet 13 Lines 52-55, HH 245/253 H. C. Rinker Head/W/M/March1868/32/Md3yrs/FarmerRents/VA/VA/VA {Henry C. Rinker} L. N. Rinker Wife/W/F/May1865/35/2children1living/VA/VA/VA Elwin N. Rinker Son/W/M/April1899/1/VA/VA/VA Lela Kilby Cousin/W/F/April1870/30/Single/VA/VA/VA ------------------------ 1910 Federal Census: Virginia Stevensburg, ED 24, Culpeper County Enumerated 5 May 1910 Page 199B, Sheet 12 Lines 59-62, HH 225/231 H. C. Rinker Head/W/M/42/Md13yrs/FarmManager/RentsHm/VA/VA/VA L. N. Rinker Wife/W/F/44/3children2living/VA/VA/VA Elwin Rinker Son/W/M/11/AttendedSchool/VA/VA/VA Earle Rinker Son/W/M/7/AttendedSchool/VA/VA/VA --------------------------- This obit is for Elizabeth Fisher Brobeck/Brubeck Rinker, second wife of Thomas J. Rinker The Shenandoah Herald Woodstock, Virginia Friday, 28 December 1900 Page 3, Column 5 OBITUARY MRS. THOMAS J. RINKER Mrs. Thomas J. Rinker died at her residence near St. Luke last Monday aged 73 years. She leaves four children to mourn the loss of an affectionate mother. Messrs. Samuel, Philip, Robert and Henry Brubeck. She was buried at St. Luke on last Tuesday. NOTE: In the obit Thomas J. Rinker was dead as he is not mentioned as surviving and although it states that she was buried at St. Luke that was not the case. Her service might have been held at St. Luke, but Elizabeth Fisher Brobeck Rinker was buried at Cedar Grove Cemetery, just north of New Market, VA. NOTE: From the obit it is hard to know whether the writer was referring to St. Luke, the place, or St. Lukes Church (Brethren) and for those of you who are curious as to where St. Luke and St. Lukes Church are located: St Luke (Locale) is "located 0.1 miles south of Narrow Passage Creek, 2.5 miles southwest of Alonzaville and three miles northeast of Columbia Furnace." "St. Lukes Church is located at the east foot of Little North Mountain 0.5 miles northwest of Holmans Creek and two miles west of Moores Store. Records indicate, conflictingly, that this Brethren church was erected sometime between 1835 and 1840, and that it was dedicated in 1876. This church has also been called the "County Line Church" due to its proximity to the Rockingham-Shenandoah County border 150 feet away." Source: SHENANDOAH COUNTY GAZETTEER & hISTORICAL GEOGRAPHY by Irvin D. Magin, Revised 2003. ----------------------- TOMBSTONE INSCRIPTION Cedar Grove Cemetery, Mt. Jackson, north of New Market, Virginia ELIZABETH RINKER Died 17 December 1900 Wife of Thomas J. Rinker Dau of George & Catharine Fisher When did Thomas J. Rinker die and Where is Thomas J. Rinker buried? Does anyone have an obit? --------------------------- END OF THREAD Researched and Submitted by Gloria Bushong