This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ABC.2ACE/2969.1 Message Board Post: Not sure if same Ball Family, but I have this: BALL, OF BARKHAM Created Jan 24th, 1675-76 Extinct May 19th, 1785 Arms-Argent a lion, passant sable on a chief of the second three Mullets of the first. Crest-Out of clouds proper a demi lion rampant sable holding a Globe, or. Motto- Coelum Tueri-meaning "Behold the Heavens"