This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/4300/ABC.2ACE/3832.3 Message Board Post: I think this is who you are looking for I have James Marshall Kiser married to Elizabeth Burchett they had 10 children Ellen Kiser James Schofield Kiser (Known as Tug) Louise Kiser Martha Kiser Richard Kiser Campbell Freguson Kiser Meredith Kiser Rachel Kiser Mary Jane Kiser Leanna Kiser

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ABC.2ACE/1389.1410.1 Message Board Post: Can someone help me? My grandmother was Louise Roman I am told. She married and Sanders from Smyth County, VA. Does anyone have info in this line. Thanks, Linda

I am looking for evidence of Rebecca Keith who supposedly married Alfred Farmer. The only child I have listed is Phoebe. Any help would be greatly appreciated. G Maphis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gray Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/3835 Message Board Post: Would like a photo of the old log kitchen at the old James Gray (later "Bone" Gray place) farm in Glade Hollow. I visited the site just after the old log structure had collapsed. Also would like a photo of Nelson Gray's home. Believe that it stood until sometime in the late 1980's or early 1990's. Thank You, Clark Gray

In the Chalkley Chronicles on the Augusta County GenWeb it mentions that John Thompson was the heir to Anthony and Robert Thompson of Pennsylvania. Do you think that John is the same one that is later mentioned as having a wife named Susannah and a son named Billy? madye@fuse.net wrote:This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thompson, Johnson, Roman, Duty, Ferrell, Evans, Elam, Emmett Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/3438.2.1 Message Board Post: Jessica, The info you posted is simply not correct. The Russell Co. Thompson's were not children of John & Mary Thompson of Halifax Co., NC. As Robert mentioned in his message, there were nine Thompson siblings, namely, William, Richard, John, Susannah who married William Johnson, Margaret who married first William Roman and second Russell Duty, Martha who married first William Ferrell and second William Evans, Elizabeth who married William Elam, Sarah "Sally" who married John Elam, and Rachel who married James Emmett. All of these siblings are documented in the court papers at Wythe Co., VA in regards to the civil suit over Richard's estate. I have been to the courthouse and obtained copies of these records. Also, William was not the youngest of the three brothers. John, born abt 1761 most certainly was younger than William who was born abt. 1752. As for the identity of the parents of the Russell Co. Thompsons, there has been nothing that definately documents their identity, however, research of early Washington & Russell Co. tax records indicates that their fathers name was John. Additional information indicates that their mothers name was probably Susannah. The Thompson family was in what became Russell Co. as early as 1771, at which time it was part of Fincastle Co. Fincastle had just been formed from Botetourt Co. and in 1769 Botetourt had been formed from Augusta Co., VA. So a search of Botetourt & Augusta Co. records is appropriate prior to 1771. In the Augusta records is a court record from 1759 where William Ferrell (husband of Martha Thompson), orphan of John Ferrell, was bound out to John Archer. John Archer owned land on Long Glade Creek in Augusta Co. There was a John Thompson who also owned land on a branch of Long Glade Creek in 1759. A court case from 1769 indicates that John's wifes name was Susannah and that he had a son named Billy. Also in 1769 John & Susannah Thompson sold two tracts of land on Glade Creek to Isreal Christian. This last bit of information is important because Isreal Christian also moved to the Thompson Creek area of what would become Russell Co. and was a close neighbor of the Thompson! family on Thompson Creek. All of this information combines to indicate that John & Susannah Thompson were probably the parents of the Russell Co. Thompson family. Lastly, as to the "belief" that the Thompson family is originally from Scotland and stayed one generation in Ulster Ireland prior to coming to VA, there simply is no evidence to support that. At this point there is in fact no evidence yet as to where they came from prior to being in Augusta Co. or when they arrived in America. ==== VARUSSEL Mailing List ==== Remember, if you want to reply to a message that has been forwarded to the mailing list from the Russell County Message Board, you should go to the message board and post your reply there, not direclty to the mailing list. A message that has been forwarded to the mailing list will begin as follows: "This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list." A link will be incuded in the message to allow you to go to the message board and post your reply. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/3833.1 Message Board Post: Could you perhaps be looking for "Jonathan" or "Johnston" Howard who married Nancy Cowan? Jonathan is my ancestor also. He died 1873, his parents were Francis Howard and Sarah Johnston. Francis Howard's parents were William Howard and Sarah Hawkins. William and Sarah were married about 1737 in Oxford, Granville, NC. William was born 6-13-1702 in York, VA and died about 1751 in Mecklenburg, VA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/1091.1211.2.1.2 Message Board Post: I am researching line of John Drake and Martha Lester. Do you have info re: her parents? I believe she descended from Gabriel Arthur, an Englishman, and Hannah (Nakitie) a Cherokke woman.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/3670.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: As you have probably found reseaching the Spears / Speers /Speer line is challenging. Alfred is listed in the 1910 census as Sameul A Speer. Please contact me at my email Juliusstr42@earthlink.net we can determine what I have that is of use to you.

Dawna, Thanks for the lead, but I believe that Eliza is too young. A woman who descends from Joseph Baker's brother knows that Mary Louisa Dean was called Eliza, the family lived 4 houses away from Virginia's home. The granddaughter of Virginia that gave me the lead was Crotie Vicars Osborne her mother was Mary Belle Zora Baker daughter of Mary Louise "Eliza" Dean and Joseph Baker. Why she didn't tell me it was her great uncle that was Priscilla's father I will never know. I am blessed she remembered as much as she did. She did tell me that Eliza Dean that married the Baker's mother was Janie. So I believe I now have the right bunch of Dean's but I new mystery as Jane appears to have been a single mother. Such is genealogy! Thanks-Deb Clarkston ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dawna111@aol.com> To: <VARUSSEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [VARUSSEL] Re: Dean, Baker, Keith, Dingus, Vicars, Doyle > > > Deborah > There is an Eliza Dean, age 3 in the 1870 Eastern Section of Cambell CO, VA > Census. Father listed as Frank Dean. > > > Dawna J Vicars > _Dawna Vicars Page: Vicars, Crabtree, Nickerson, Shore(s)_ > (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/i/c/Dawna-J-Vicars-CA/?Welcome =1039103104) > > > > In a message dated 4/30/2005 3:38:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > deborahjohn@adelphia.net writes: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Keith, Vicars, Doyle, Dean, Baker, Kilgore > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Virginia's maiden name was Keith, daughter of James Powell Keith and Martha > Jones Keith. She had my great-grandmother Priscilla Oct 14 1873 by a Dean > man. She married Samuel Vicars Mar 21 1881, he died and her children were placed > under the guardianship of Samuel's cousin, David Campbell Vicars. David and > Virginia married Oct 6 1885. After 1900 Virginia married a Doyle. A > granddaughter of Virginia's told me Priscilla's father had a sister named Eliza that > married a Baker. The only fit I have found is Mary Louisa "Eliza" Dean b. 1859 > who married Joseph C. Baker Aug 21 1881. My understanding is that Eliza may > have had children by Joseph prior to their marriage while he was married to > Martha Kilgore and they married after Martha's death. I have access to a 1870 > Russell Co VA Census transcript and found a Louisa Dean about the right age > but she is living with a Gose Family. Thank you for interest in helping me. > > > > > > _Dawna Vicars Page: Vicars, Crabtree, Nickerson, Shore(s)_ > (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/i/c/Dawna-J-Vicars-CA/?Welcome =1039103104) > > > ==== VARUSSEL Mailing List ==== > It is ok to send messages that have genealogical value to the mailing > list. However, if the nature of your messages have turned more personal > and no longer have any real genealogical value then they should probably > be sent in private. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dean, Baker, Vicars, Osborne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Patti, Thanks for the support of my theory. The granddaughter of Virginia that gave me the lead was Crotie Vicars Osborne her mother was Mary Belle Zora Baker daughter of Mary Louise "Eliza" Dean and Joseph Baker. Why she didn't tell me it was her great uncle that was Priscilla's father I will never know. I am blessed she remembered as much as she did. She did tell me that "Eliza Dean that married the Baker"'s mother was Janie. So I believe I now have the right bunch of Dean's but I new mystery as Jane appears to have been a single mother. Such is genealogy! Thanks-Deb Clarkston

Deborah There is an Eliza Dean, age 3 in the 1870 Eastern Section of Cambell CO, VA Census. Father listed as Frank Dean. Dawna J Vicars _Dawna Vicars Page: Vicars, Crabtree, Nickerson, Shore(s)_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/i/c/Dawna-J-Vicars-CA/?Welcome=1039103104) In a message dated 4/30/2005 3:38:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, deborahjohn@adelphia.net writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keith, Vicars, Doyle, Dean, Baker, Kilgore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Virginia's maiden name was Keith, daughter of James Powell Keith and Martha Jones Keith. She had my great-grandmother Priscilla Oct 14 1873 by a Dean man. She married Samuel Vicars Mar 21 1881, he died and her children were placed under the guardianship of Samuel's cousin, David Campbell Vicars. David and Virginia married Oct 6 1885. After 1900 Virginia married a Doyle. A granddaughter of Virginia's told me Priscilla's father had a sister named Eliza that married a Baker. The only fit I have found is Mary Louisa "Eliza" Dean b. 1859 who married Joseph C. Baker Aug 21 1881. My understanding is that Eliza may have had children by Joseph prior to their marriage while he was married to Martha Kilgore and they married after Martha's death. I have access to a 1870 Russell Co VA Census transcript and found a Louisa Dean about the right age but she is living with a Gose Family. Thank you for interest in helping me. _Dawna Vicars Page: Vicars, Crabtree, Nickerson, Shore(s)_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/i/c/Dawna-J-Vicars-CA/?Welcome=1039103104)

In a message dated 4/30/2005 3:38:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, deborahjohn@adelphia.net writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keith, Vicars, Doyle, Dean, Baker, Kilgore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Virginia's maiden name was Keith, daughter of James Powell Keith and Martha Jones Keith. She had my great-grandmother Priscilla Oct 14 1873 by a Dean man. She married Samuel Vicars Mar 21 1881, he died and her children were placed under the guardianship of Samuel's cousin, David Campbell Vicars. David and Virginia married Oct 6 1885. After 1900 Virginia married a Doyle. A granddaughter of Virginia's told me Priscilla's father had a sister named Eliza that married a Baker. The only fit I have found is Mary Louisa "Eliza" Dean b. 1859 who married Joseph C. Baker Aug 21 1881. My understanding is that Eliza may have had children by Joseph prior to their marriage while he was married to Martha Kilgore and they married after Martha's death. I have access to a 1870 Russell Co VA Census transcript and found a Louisa Dean about the right age but she is living with a Gose Family. Thank you for interest in helping me. _Dawna Vicars Page: Vicars, Crabtree, Nickerson, Shore(s)_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/v/i/c/Dawna-J-Vicars-CA/?Welcome=1039103104)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/3670.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Alfred Spears was my husband's ggrandfather. Do you know where he is buried and/or how he died? Also, I have found that Nancy Fields Spears married Horatio Bartlett in Scott County in 1866. Do you have any other info on Bartlett? Would appreciate any info. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dean, Baker, Kilgore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: It is correct that Joseph C. Baker fathered children with Mary Louisa Dean while still married to Martha Kilgore. Joe was the brother of our gg-grandpa John Baker so I have done some research on him also. John Baker was also quite active outside his marriage, fathering 4 children with his wife's sister. Here is what I know about Louisa Dean's family: 1880 census, Louisa is found in Copper Creek, Russell CO. She is a single sister in the home of George Dean 25, who is married to a Nancy 20 and they have no children yet. The first 4 children born to Joe Baker are listed under Louisa, as nephews to George, and using the last name Dean. Also in the home is the mother Jane, who is 40 and also noted as single, NOT widowed. When looking at the 1880 census you find that George's home is listed on the very same page as your Keith family, and also that of Joe Baker. They were all in very close proximity to each other. George and the Keith family are noted 4 households apart. I believe that the mother Jane Dean was also a single woman when she had her children. I think her age is incorrect in 1880 and that she was probably 7-8 years older than noted. I'm sure she must be the same Jane Dean found in Scott Co in 1870 with 3 children, Mary L.17, George 16 & William 10. She is in the home of a Nancy Dean, 64. In 1860 in Scott Co she is Jane Dean, 28 spinster with the same 3 children. Mary & George's ages are off a little bit but the youngest William is 2 months old. In 1880 the younger son William, does not appear to be around Russell or Scott CO area. He could be the 20 year old William Dean in Lawrence Co, KY. Lawrence Co, Ky was not a far migration from Russell & Scott Co, VA. Given the proximity of George Dean to the Keith family I would put him as a high suspect for being the father of your Priscilla. William would have been a bit young, but possible.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keith, Vicars, Doyle, Dean, Baker, Kilgore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Virginia's maiden name was Keith, daughter of James Powell Keith and Martha Jones Keith. She had my great-grandmother Priscilla Oct 14 1873 by a Dean man. She married Samuel Vicars Mar 21 1881, he died and her children were placed under the guardianship of Samuel's cousin, David Campbell Vicars. David and Virginia married Oct 6 1885. After 1900 Virginia married a Doyle. A granddaughter of Virginia's told me Priscilla's father had a sister named Eliza that married a Baker. The only fit I have found is Mary Louisa "Eliza" Dean b. 1859 who married Joseph C. Baker Aug 21 1881. My understanding is that Eliza may have had children by Joseph prior to their marriage while he was married to Martha Kilgore and they married after Martha's death. I have access to a 1870 Russell Co VA Census transcript and found a Louisa Dean about the right age but she is living with a Gose Family. Thank you for interest in helping me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1.1 Message Board Post: My Eliza Dean (who is was my grandmother) I know for a fact was only married once to a Bill Shepherd. But my grandmother had a Aunt Eliza who was married that was a Dean(not researched who she married yet). My Deans are primarily from Wise County VA, Scott County VA and Letcher County KY areas that I have found so far. Can you give me some idea of the date range that your Eliza was from? there is a bunch in my family tree. All my Eliza's had a twin typically named Rinda or Marinda. Was Virginia's maiden name doyle or vicars? was not sure based on your message.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dean, Baker, Keith, Dingus, Vicars, Doyle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ABC.2ACE/2022.2031.2032.2033.1 Message Board Post: My great-grandmother Priscilla Keith Dingus was the daughter of Virginia Keith Vicars Vicars Doyle and unknown Dean. A granddaughter of Virginia informed me that the unknown Dean had a sister named Eliza that married a Baker. I wonder if the Baker was Joseph C. Baker and Eliza his second wife Mary Louise "Eliza" Dean. If so, I need information on Mary Louise "Eliza" Dean's family. If she had more than one brother I will probably never prove which brother fathered Priscilla but at least I will know my Dean line. Please help me with this brickwall if you can. I have been trying to crack it for almost 30 years.

Russell County charged me $6.00 the last time I needed a marriage certificate, but that was a few years ago. You can call, they are very nice there. Elizabeth

If you need a State of Virginia Birth Certificate, you may use either one of the two following links: http://www.vdh.state.va.us/vitalrec/index.asp http://www.virginiavitalrecords.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Gerhart" <raegerhart@yahoo.com> To: <VARUSSEL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: [VARUSSEL] Russell County Courthouse > I was wondering if someone is going to the courthouse > in Russell County, if they could see if there is a > marriage certificate there for a Herndon. I need to > know the cost of the certificate and postage for > mailing it to me. The marriage certificate is for John > Moses (Rev, Johnie) Herndon and Huldy E. Taylor. The > certificate is for the date of December 17, 1908. If > someone can help with this, it would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Connie (Herndon) Gerhart > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== VARUSSEL Mailing List ==== > Messages of an inflamatory or abusive manner will not be tolerated > on the mailing list. Messages of this type are to be sent in private > either to the person they are directed toward or the list owner. > Complaints should also be sent to the list owner. Violators of this > rule are subject to suspension from the mailing list. >

Castlewood resident Helen Thomas posted this extensive Holbrook web site including Kilgore, Johnson, Baker,Lawson and many more families of Russell and neighboring cos. I found access to the list of family at bottom of the Holbrook page. Check it out; I found it very informative especially the photos section.you may have to copy and paste the site in your browser. http://www.grandpappy.info/jhjamfra.htm