This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7417/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Job Hobbs filed for Rev War pension in Madison Co Arkansas in 1859. He would be 100 years old on 21 June. He was b. in Frederick Co VA. He named his father as Vinson Hobbs, his mother as Ruth Thomas. His siblings: James Mary Hannah Vinson Joel Ezekiel Ruth Rachel William Absolem Abner He said he was brother to the Ezekiel Hobbs who served in the Rev War from Washington Co. His oldest brother died in KY. His oldest sister died in Washington Co VA His next oldest brother died on Hickory Creek in TN. The next oldest brother died on Big Piney Creek. One brother was killed by Cherokee in TN or KY. Absolem wrote to him from Lee Co VA. He left Washington Co VA in 1780 & moved to Powells Valley for 10 yrs. Moved to Madison Co KY for 4 yrs. Moved to Knox Co TN for 3 yrs. Moved to Montgomery Co TN for 4 yrs. Moved to Davies KY. Moved to Spencer Co Indiana for 14 yrs. Moved to Clay Co Ill for 4 yrs & 4 yrs in Marion Co Ill. Moved to Washington Co Arkansas, then moved to Madison Co Arkansas where he'd been living for 12 or 15 yrs. He had also applied out of Louisville KY. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7416/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ezekiel Hobbs filed for Rev War pension 1834 Wash. Co VA at age 72 " upwards". Was drafted 1776 in what became Washington CO VA & said he'd always resided there. He m. Elizabeth Lilley as per copy of marriage bond dated 27 July 1803, signed by Hardy Lilley & Ezekiel Hobbs. Michael Fleener made statement & said Ezekiel Hobbs lived on the north fork of the Holston River in 1770. In 1855 Elizabeth gave her age as 70 yrs old. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PamelaSmith35 Surnames: MCGraw Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7408.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would you like to share your connection to the McGraw family. Which of Thomas' children do you connect with? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pspencer1818 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7409.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply. Their child, Mary Rasnake is in my line. Would you have more information on Gabriel's children or when the move was to Minnesota? If you have more info. you can share on this family, I'd like to hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pspencer1818 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7408.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information you have shared. I appreciate your time and what you have listed is very helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PamelaSmith35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7408.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have some McGraw information. Here is my individual information sheet for Thomas McGraw. My gr gr gr grandmother, Margaret McGraw is the daughter of Thomas and Nancy (unknown) McGraw. Name: Thomas MCGRAW1,2,3,4,5,6 Sex: Male Father: John MCGRAW (abt 1775 - abt 1861) Mother: Sarah ANDERSON ( - bef 1850) Individual Facts Birth abt 1815 Russell Co, VA7,8 Census 24 Oct 1850 (age 35) 54 District, Russell Co, VA9 Misc event 22 Dec 1883 (age 68) Performed marriage of Thomas F. McGraw and Mary Rasnake; Russell Co, VA10 Marriages/Children 1. Nancy K. UNKNOWN Marriage abt 1842 (age 27)11,12 Children Elisabeth MCGRAW (abt 1842 - ) Margaret J. MCGRAW (1844 - ) Lavinia A. MCGRAW (1847 - ) Robert H. MCGRAW (1849 - abt 1921) 2. Catharine LEWIS Marriage 17 Aug 1860 (age 45) Russell Co, VA13,14,15 Children Isaiah MCGRAW (abt 1854 - ) Thomas F. MCGRAW (abt 1857 - ) Isaiah Franklin (Franklin) MCGRAW (Apr 1856 - ) Victoria J. MCGRAW (abt 1859 - ) Mary B. (Nancy B.) MCGRAW (abt 1869 - ) Notes (Individual) General: In the 1840 Census of Russell CO, VA, there is a Thomas McGraw, head of his household. There is one male under 5, one male 10 - 15, one male 30-40, one female 10-15, one female 20-30. In the 1850 Census of Russell Co, Va, there is a Thomas McGraw, 35 years old, head of his household, a farmer with $800 of real property. He does not have a spouse in his household. The annotated version of this census states his first wife's name was Nancy. Children Elisabeth, 8, Margaret, 6, Lavinia A., 3, Robert, 1, and Henry McGraw, 18, probable son of John and Sarah McGraw are living in his household. In the 1860 Census of Russell Co, VA, there is a Thomas and Catharine McGraw who would be the correct age to be this Thomas. Thomas is 45 years old and a laborer. In the Marriage register of Rev. Alexander Little, there is an entry for Thomas Jefferson McGraw married to Margaret Norris on 18 June 1863 in Washington Co, Va. Do not know who this Thomas is. Birth (abt 1815): When Thomas McGraw married Catherine Lewis in 1860, he was 45 years old, born in Russell County, Va. Census (24 Oct 1850): In 1850, Thomas is 33 years old and head of his household. He does not have a spouse. His 4 children and a brother are living with him. Notes (Family #1) Marriage (abt 1842): Thomas McGraw was a widow when he married Catherine Lewis. In 1850, Thomas Mcgraw's oldest child was born in 1842. Notes (Family #2) Marriage (17 Aug 1860): Catherine Lewis, single, and Thomas McGraw, widow, were married by John Wallis. Thomas McGraw is a widow when he married Catherine. In 1860, Catharine is 30 years old and living in the household of Thomas McGraw. In 1884 Thomas and Catherine (Lewis) McGraw are listed as the parents of Franklin who married Luticia Elkins. Prepared by: Pamela Hill Smith 1921 Kathy Court Owings, MD 20736 301 855 8142 [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chrisstallard Surnames: Rasnake, Patrick, Harris Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7409.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gabriel Lafayette Rasnake born ca 1829; m(1) to Margaret ? who was born 02-09-1832; died 08-10-1862. One child by this marriage, William Rasnake, born ca 1854. Gabriel's 2nd marriage was to Harriet Patrick, born about 1842, moved from a farm in Virginia to Minnesota. Children from 2nd marriage: ch(1)John M Rasnake, age 19 married Millie Harris, age 17, on 04-16-1884 in RusCo, VA. She was dau of Adeline Harris of Tazewell Co; ch(2) Robert Rasnake born ca 1866; ch(3)Mary Rasnake born ca 1869 and ch(4)Maggie Rasnake. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Friends and Family, Please enjoy this correspondence below, reading from the bottom up for the right chronology. We have yet another branch of the George Lea Jessee family connecting to us, as well as a descendant of Mary Polly Jessee Kiser, not to mention her Counts, Skeen, Castle, Suit, and Buckles roots, all deep in SW VA. I am sure Denise will appreciate any help you can give her in her exploration. I hope they do make the Jessee Reunion this August 9, 2008 and that they can find some help to explore their George Lea Jessee roots in Russell Co. Jim _____ From: Denise Cumor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:02 PM To: Jim Jessee Subject: RE: Fairbanks Jessee Family Hello JIm, Please do forward this information to the list! I will be back in touch as soon as get all the details. Thanks, Denise _____ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fairbanks Jessee Family Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:59:59 -0700 Denise, I am so glad to make the connection for you, and sorry that your Fairbanks died tragically. My father died when I was 10 years old, in 1957, and he was also 40, so I know of this kind of loss. May I share our correspondence in the Jessee Newletter and forward it to the Jessee list? There will be interest in this, and you can get help at the reunion to go see the original John Jessee place, which your George Lea Jessee inherited or bought out his brothers. The George Lea Cemetery is there, with John and Frankey, among others. I look forward to including the marriage and descendants information for Fairbanks in the Jessee Database, and thank you for helping with that. Yes, Carlos is a not a typical Jessee name! Lot's of James, Jim, and Jimmys, though. Jim _____ From: Denise Cumor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:07 AM To: Jim Jessee Subject: RE: Jessee name Hello Jim, I can confirm that Fairbanks Jessee is my grandfather, he actually died when my father was 5 years old in Baltimore, MD. Putting his death at 1946 or 1947. He is the child of Marshall and Sarah Jessee. I plan to visit my father soon and will get you names and dates of all of his line. My fathers name is Carlos James Jessee "Jim", the first name Carlos was given to him in honour of a friend that saved Fairbanks life, but we both find it interesting that there are other Carlos Jessee's out there, my brothers name is also Carlos James Jessee Jr. "Jimmy". I am going to try and encourage my father to travel with me to the reunion this August. Thanks! Denise Leanne Jessee Cumor or just "D" _____ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Jessee name Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:31:50 -0700 The problem is that since I do not have a death date for Fairgbanks, it assumes he is living, and does not show his name, but you can find his father, Marshall Greeley Jessee. Do these names and dates fit your family at all? Don't take my word for it, this has to be proven. Jim _____ From: Denise Cumor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:43 PM To: Jim Jessee Subject: RE: Jessee name Hello Jim, Thanks for the quick response. I am having problems trying to locate Fairbanks on the roots database. Is it even possible to search by RIN? If you have any helpful tips on searching, I would gladly appreciate it. I have a bit more information for you, from what my mother knows. Fairbanks Jessee Married Maude Della Tipton b.June 8th year unknown, her parents John Wes & Mary Tipton, deceased she later re-married after his death to Charles Shannon Children of Fairbanks & Maude Jessee: Roy Jessee Jack Jessee Georgia Gray Jessee (re-married twices, 1st to Jack Kiser, NJ, and marriage?, is now deceased) Kenneth Brice Jessee (deceased) Carlos James Jessee (my father) I can certainly take the lineage to my generation and have the names of all of my cousins/siblings and there children, get birth and death dates and where evryone lives/lived. I will also be calling my father this week to get more information. I would love to have the dates and location of the Fairbanks you have listed, I hope I can find him on the database. Thanks, Denise _____ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Jessee name Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:38:45 -0700 Cousin Denise, Thank you for your note. I hope I can help you. I do have one Fairbanks Jessee, born 1906 in Castlewood, Russell Co., VA, which is nearby the original Jessee Home Place, of John Jessee, Sr who married Frankey Lea, and settled at Jessee's Mill, near Castlewood, VA in 1790. I have been there many times, although I live in California, borh here. My Jessee family came here in 1906 from Illinois, and had left Castewood area about 1870 for Illinois. Please go to my database at www.jessee.org <http://www.jessee.org/> , and see if this Fairbanks Jessee, RIN 21382, fits the time frame. If so there is an extensive pedigree there for him. We would be about 5th cousins, as your line goes back to George Lea Jessee and Mary Polly Jessee Kiser, two of the 15 children of John and Frankey. I descend from their brother, John Jessee, Jr. I do not have any marriage or descendants information for him, so you would be my first contact for him. If this is your Fairbanks, you would be a Counts descendant, too. And that makes you about an 9th cousin to my wife! I also have two Carlos Jessees in my database, but not Carlos James with a father of Fairbanks. Let me know if this fits. Would also love to share your note in the Jessee Newsletter. See those also on the Website. Jim _____ From: Denise Cumor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Jessee name Hello Jim, I stumbled on you website tonight and was very excited. My family name is Jessee. My fathers family comes from the south, W. VA/VA. His name is Carlos James Jessee. Hi fathers name was Fairbanks Jessee, he died in a fire in Baltimore (where he had moved with his children) when my father was 3 years old. My father and I both live in MD, although he was raised in VA, and I am not sure where. I grew up visiting my grandmother in West VA. Maude Shannon (originally Jessee, she re-married). I know very little about my fathers ancestry, he does not know much himself. And would be curious to see if the name Fairbanks Jessee connects in anyway, I will try to get more details for you as well, I am very excited to pass your website on to my family. Thanks for all of your hard work! Denise

I have seen the information posted about Lafayette moving to MN, but my research in MN cannot document this as a fact. Per his will, Lafayette died c1871 (likely in Russell Co VA). His farm was still intact at the time of his death and passed to his two sons. Several years after Lafayette's death, Harriet Virginia Patrick had a son. She remarried to John B. Compton and had several more children. Lafayette's brother, Jasper Newton Rasnake, and Jasper's spouse, Malinda Patrick (younger sister to Lafayette's spouse, Harriet Virginia Patrick), did migrate along with the Oliver Rasnake family and other Russell Co VA families to MN per the census there. More information on the line of Gabriel Lafayette Rasnake can be found in the last revision (Dec 2006) to the second edition of Judge Sutherland's book entitled "Some Descendants of John Counts of Glade Hollow." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VARUSSEL] Rasnake This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chrisstallard Surnames: Rasnake, Patrick, Harris Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counti es.russell/7409.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gabriel Lafayette Rasnake born ca 1829; m(1) to Margaret ? who was born 02-09-1832; died 08-10-1862. One child by this marriage, William Rasnake, born ca 1854. Gabriel's 2nd marriage was to Harriet Patrick, born about 1842, moved from a farm in Virginia to Minnesota. Children from 2nd marriage: ch(1)John M Rasnake, age 19 married Millie Harris, age 17, on 04-16-1884 in RusCo, VA. She was dau of Adeline Harris of Tazewell Co; ch(2) Robert Rasnake born ca 1866; ch(3)Mary Rasnake born ca 1869 and ch(4)Maggie Rasnake. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7414.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CORRECTION - one document in this file says William Hays & Elizabeth Lemon m. 21 August 1785 in Franklin Co VA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7414/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Hays filed for Rev War pension 1832 in Pulaski Co KY age 77. Resided Botetourt Co when he entered service. Lived Washington Co VA before moving to Pulaski Co KY. He died 13 Aug 1838. He married Rachel Lemon in 1783 in Henry Co VA. She d. 18 Feb 1843 in Pulaski Co KY. Surviving children after mothers death: Levina, wife of William Minifee Elizabeth, wife of Chryslia Yanders Margaret, wife of Mathew Hardin Isaac Rachel, wife of Thomas Roark William Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7413/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The widow of Joseph Hatfield, Rachel Smith Hatfield, filed for pension & bounty land in Campbell Co TN, and Scott Co TN. Joseph Hatfield & Rachel Smith were married 28 Oct 1779, apparently in Russell CO VA. Joseph died 29 Aug 1832. Joseph was an Indian Spy during the Rev War period in Russell Co VA & served before & after the marriage. Jean Smith of Campbell Co TN said he was the best woodsman on the frontier. William Hansard(age 90 in 1853)and Margaret Hansard(age 91 in 1853) said they were near neighbors of Joseph Hatfield during his service. Richard Crabtree of Campbell Co TN in 1843 made statement for Rachel. Rachel was 80 yrs old in 1843. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Joseph Hatfield The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/military/pensions/rhatfield.html Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7412/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andrew Harwell "sometimes called Harvey" applied for Rev War pension in Perry Co KY in 1832. He resided on Troublesome Creek in Perry Co. He stated he thinks he was 20 years old in 1776 when Independance was declared. He states he was born in Scotland & came to America without his parents. He lived in Sussex Co VA with Col. David Morgan & sometimes Morgan's son in-law Jordan Richardson. When he entered service he was living in Casewell Co NC. He later resided in Washington Co VA, then Russell Co VA. In 1832 he said he'd been living in Perry Co KY for 12 or 13 years. He also states he was married in Casewell Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7411/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Martha Harris, widow of John Harris applied for Rev War widow's pension in Adams Co Ill. Her husband John Harris had died in Warren Co KY 18 Aug 1816. Her maiden name was Martha Thomas & they were married 31 Oct 1781 in St Clair's Bottom in Washington Co VA by Rev. Thomas Woolsey. Martha Thomas was b. 28 March 1764. Martha states that John left his father's home in Granville NC to join the service. He served under "two men named Campbell". John Harris' sister lived 18 miles from Abingdon & was refered to as Mrs McPhatridge. John & Martha had 7 children: Enoch, b. Washington Co VA 21 Nov 1783 Elijah, b. 4 Mar 1787 Mary, b. 2 March (?) 1789 Thomas, b. 12 Sept 1791 (lived in Wayne Co Ill 1854) Martha, b. 23 Dec 1795 John, b. 30 June 1799 Abijah, b. 17 Nov 1803 In one of the children's statements for their mother it was said that John & family moved from Washington Co VA to Garrard Co KY in 1789 & then moved to Warren Co KY in 1807 or 1808. Also mentioned is Elijah Whitney who emigrated with his father from VA. Whitney lived on John's land in both Garrard & Warren Co's, and was believed to have served with him. There is a written statement dated 1803 saying that Elijah Whitney had known John Harris for 25 years. Enoch, son of John & Martha, lived in Warren Co KY in 1854. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: my440sixpack Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7410/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have just been reading the Rev War widow's app for Martha (Thomas) Harris, wife of John Harris. In the file is a letter from JW Stevens of Abingdon who apparently had been contacted to try & find the marriage record for this couple. They had been married 1781 in St Clair's Bottom in Washington County by Thomas Woolsey, a Baptist minister. Mr. Stevens said in his reply that he had spoken with Mrs. Dean, the daughter of Rev. Woolsey, & that she said her sister had taken his marriage record book with her to Missouri. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

how do you find these Rev.War pension I would like to see if there is any on the Pecks,Stacy,Miller, Payne,and others thanks Jalena Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: [VARUSSEL] Andrew Harwell aka Andrew Harvey > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: my440sixpack > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7412/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Andrew Harwell "sometimes called Harvey" applied for Rev War pension in > Perry Co KY in 1832. He resided on Troublesome Creek in Perry Co. > He stated he thinks he was 20 years old in 1776 when Independance was > declared. > He states he was born in Scotland & came to America without his parents. > He lived in Sussex Co VA with Col. David Morgan & sometimes Morgan's son > in-law Jordan Richardson. > When he entered service he was living in Casewell Co NC. He later resided > in Washington Co VA, then Russell Co VA. > In 1832 he said he'd been living in Perry Co KY for 12 or 13 years. > He also states he was married in Casewell Co. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, Wanda Green especially, and her friends and I researched this Vance/Gross/McKinney family a few years ago, some of what we found, after extensive research, follows: Rebecca was Allen's 2nd wife. She was born Carter Co., TN around 1840 She was Rebecca Moseley d/o P. Harper Mosely and Marinda "Rindy" McKinney Rindy McKinney later married John Vance. Rebecca and her sister, Mary "Polly" carried the Vance name of their stepfather until they were adults, and then started going by Moseley until they were married. By the way, Mary Polly Mosely-Vance married Andy Gross s/o of Allen Gross So, the sisters Rebecca and Polly married father and son! Another way to look at it; Andy married his stepmother's sister. Andy was my wife's g-g grandfather so yes you and my wife are 3rd cousins. See Quintin Vance, Wanda Green, and Edna Horn; "David Vance and Family", pp. 19-23, Mullins Printing Co., Clintwood, Va., 1986. SOURCES Follow: ------------------------------------------------ SOME MARRIAGE RECORDS: ----------------------------------------------- 1. John Vogt & T. William Kethley, Jr., Virginia Historic Marriage Register, Giles County Marriages, 1806-1850, Iberian Publishing Co., Athens, Georgia, p33, Huntsville Public Library, Huntsville, AL, H 975.5782 VOG. Grose, Allen & Elizabeth Fry 28 Sep 1837; d of George; bondsmen: R F Watts, Edward Hale min: Landon Duncan- 28 Sep1837. 2. Dodd, Jordan R, et. al., Early American Marriages: Virginia to 1850., Bountiful, UT: Precision Indexing Publishers, 19xx. "ALLEN GROSE ELIZABETH FRY 28 September 1837 Giles." ALLEN GROSE ELIZABETH FRY. 3. Allen Gross and Rebecca Mosely; Apr.13, 1861, Tazewell County, Virginia Marriage Book 3 Pg. 14 Line 10 Allen was the son of Wm. and Mary Gross. His age was 45, widowed, born in Pittsylvania Co., VA. She was 22 yrs. old, single, the daughter of Marinda Mosely, born in Carter County, TN. They were married by Patton J. Lockhart. Half-sister to Grandpa Dave Vance 4. Rebecca (Mosely Vance) Gross, age 30, a widow, on 11 April 1881 married James Osborn, age 30, widowed. Marriage Register, Welch, McDowell Co., WVa. (They are on 1900 Buchanan Co. Census with son Ruel b. 1886) --------------------------------------------------------- CENSUS --------------------------------------------------------- GROSS, ALLEN Township: Western District 62 Page: 308 1850 Census Tazewell County, Virginia: THE WESTERN DISTRICT; visit 1275, 1275, p308, img 190 Allen 40 M Farmer Va Betsy 40 F Va Sarah 13 F Va John 10 M Va Andy 8 M Va Emory 6 M Va [sic, This appears to be an error] Elanor 3 F Va (Cosby) Emma 1 F Va ------------------------------------------------------------------- CENSUS: GROSS, ALLEN Township: Cedar Bluff P.O. Page: 153,839 1860 Census Tazewell County, Virginia: THE WESTERN DISTRICT; 28 July, 1860 by Alexander H. Greever visit 1063, 1034, img 43 19 Allen 47 M Farmer 285 Pennsylvania [sic, should probably be Pittsylvania] 20 Elizabeth 45 F Va 21 John W. 17 M Va 22 Andrew 15 M Va 23 Henry H [sic] 13 M Va 24 Cosbi E. 14 M Va 25 Emma S. 12 F Va 26 Matilda 10 F Va 27 Malinda L. 5 F Va Note: Ancestry.com has this indexed as Grosso ------------------------------------------------------------------- CENSUS: GROSS, ALLEN State: VA Year: 1870 County: Buchanan County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule Township: Garden Township Page: 178, img 12, visit 76,73 Database: VA 1870 Federal Census Index Allen 58 Rebecca 29 Cosby 32 Arminda 5 Henderson 2 Elizabeth 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pspencer1818 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.russell/7409/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking information on Gabriel Layfayette Rasnake (not sure of the correct spelling) born 1830 in Russell County, Virginia. Married in 1862 to Harriett V. Patrick. I would like any information on their family line, especially their children. Please contact me if you have these names in your line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Linda, I believe Alben is possibly Allen, and Elizabeth was called Betsy. It is possible that Henry was Emory Henry. Or, this could be another family. See the 1850 census record below. His death record on the Federal Mortality Schedules indicates he was in Buchanan County at the time (1880) and had been living there for 24 years, since 1856. On the 1870, he is there with Rebecca age 27, and there is no indication if she is wife or other but she is "Keeping House." Cosby E. is noted to be a Domestic Servant, and there is no indication as to whom the younger children belong to. Hopefully more research will put more pieces together. I am not able to find an 1860 or 1840 record for Allen Gross. Hope this helps, Michelle 1850 United States Federal Census Name: Allen Gross Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Birth Place: Virginia Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Western District, Tazewell, Virginia Household Members: Name Age Allen Gross 40 Andy Gross 8 Betsy Gross 40 Elenor Gross 3 Emma Gross 1 Emory Gross 6 John Gross 10 Lorah Gross 13 Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Western District, Tazewell, Virginia; Roll: M432_979; Page: 308; Image: 190. 1870 United States Federal Census Name: Allen Gross Estimated Birth Year: 1812 Age in 1870: 58 Birthplace: Virginia Home in 1870: Garden, Buchanan, Virginia Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Grundy Household Members: Name Age Allen Gross 58 Rebecca Gross 27 Cosby E Gross 32 Arminda Gross 5 John Gross 3 Henderson Gross 2 Elisabeth Gross 1 Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Garden, Buchanan, Virginia; Roll: M593_1637; Page: 178; Image: 357. U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1880 Name: Allan Gross Gender: Male Race: White Marital Status: Married Place of Birth: Virginia Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Age: 70 Month of Death: Feb Cause of Death: Diseased liver Place of Death: (City, County, State) Garden Mag Dist, Buchanan, Virginia Census Year: 1880 Source Citation: Census Place (City, County, State): Garden Mag Dist, Buchanan, Virginia; Roll: T1132_18; Page: 220; Enumeration District: 14; Line Number: 6. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Housh To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [VARUSSEL] Albert Gross, Tazewell, VA Michelle, I certainly hope so. On Henry Gross and Lila Vance marriage record, it lists Alben and Elizabeth Gross as his parents. That is the only time I have seen his name. Do you have any information on him and where did you find it? I would love to be able to knock down at least one brick wall. Thanks. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michelle Ligon Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [VARUSSEL] Albert Gross, Tazewell, VA Is this Albert Gross of Tazewell, VA, one of your people, Linda? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vatazewe/1880-ED86.htm Michelle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message