Hi Jim, I sent away for the Numident ($16) once and believe me, it is not worth it. You actually get more information right from the Social Security Death Index. So, the Numident is worthless and if I were you I would spend the $27 wherein you receive a copy of the actual Social Security Application which shows: 1. Full name of the person filling out the form (including maiden & married name if a female) 2. Full parents names which includes maiden name for the mother 3. Where the person filling it out is working & the address 4. Date when it was filled out 5. Address where living at the time of filling out the form 6. Date & place of birth 7. Age at last birthday 8. If registered with the US Employment Service, number of Registration Card 9. Signature of the person filling out the form. 10. Social Security Number Hope this helps and if you still want to see what the, "Abbreviated Numident," will show you I will dig out my one copy and send you the information. Just let me know. Regards, Nancy Ann Faulkner

Beware though, this information is only as good as the memory of the one supplying it. I don't know who filled out my grandfather's form. The writing differed from Grandpa's signature and I question the accuracy. My mother helped fill out my grandmother's form and she didn't know how to spell the names of her mother's parents. I've found these same problems on death certificates and other papers. The informant doesn't always know the information he or she is asked to give. Barb Marshall Nancy Ann Faulkner wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I sent away for the Numident ($16) once and believe me, it is not worth it. You actually get more information right from the Social Security Death Index. > > So, the Numident is worthless and if I were you I would spend the $27 wherein you receive a copy of the actual Social Security Application which shows: > > 1. Full name of the person filling out the form (including maiden & married name if a female) > > 2. Full parents names which includes maiden name for the mother > > 3. Where the person filling it out is working & the address > > 4. Date when it was filled out > > 5. Address where living at the time of filling out the form > > 6. Date & place of birth > > 7. Age at last birthday > > 8. If registered with the US Employment Service, number of Registration Card > > 9. Signature of the person filling out the form. > > 10. Social Security Number > > Hope this helps and if you still want to see what the, "Abbreviated Numident," will show you I will dig out my one copy and send you the information. Just let me know. > > Regards, > > Nancy Ann Faulkner > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Barb, that is true. My grandfathers death certificate gave the wrong name for his father, gave his mother's "nickname" instead of her real name and had been filled out by my Aunt and it was what she "knew" at a time she was in grief. Angelee Barb Marshall wrote: >Beware though, this information is only as good as the >memory of the one supplying it. I don't know who filled >out my grandfather's form. The writing differed from >Grandpa's signature and I question the accuracy. My >mother helped fill out my grandmother's form and she >didn't know how to spell the names of her mother's >parents. I've found these same problems on death >certificates and other papers. The informant doesn't >always know the information he or she is asked to give. > >Barb Marshall > >Nancy Ann Faulkner wrote: > > >>Hi Jim, >> >>I sent away for the Numident ($16) once and believe me, it is not worth it. You actually get more information right from the Social Security Death Index. >> >>So, the Numident is worthless and if I were you I would spend the $27 wherein you receive a copy of the actual Social Security Application which shows: >> >> 1. Full name of the person filling out the form (including maiden & married name if a female) >> >> 2. Full parents names which includes maiden name for the mother >> >> 3. Where the person filling it out is working & the address >> >> 4. Date when it was filled out >> >> 5. Address where living at the time of filling out the form >> >> 6. Date & place of birth >> >> 7. Age at last birthday >> >> 8. If registered with the US Employment Service, number of Registration Card >> >> 9. Signature of the person filling out the form. >> >> 10. Social Security Number >> >>Hope this helps and if you still want to see what the, "Abbreviated Numident," will show you I will dig out my one copy and send you the information. Just let me know. >> >>Regards, >> >>Nancy Ann Faulkner >> >> >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

CAUTION: Nancy is correct. Further, MANY of the genealogy for pay sites are mediocre at best, and almost all abstracts for money web-sites are to a measure incomplete or inaccurate. One should always go to the source nearest the original as possible, where at least the errors will more closely be those you made as opposed to the errors of some unknown abstractor. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Ann Faulkner To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] Social Security -5 Form....... Hi Jim, I sent away for the Numident ($16) once and believe me, it is not worth it. You actually get more information right from the Social Security Death Index. So, the Numident is worthless and if I were you I would spend the $27 wherein you receive a copy of the actual Social Security Application which shows: 1. Full name of the person filling out the form (including maiden & married name if a female) 2. Full parents names which includes maiden name for the mother 3. Where the person filling it out is working & the address 4. Date when it was filled out 5. Address where living at the time of filling out the form 6. Date & place of birth 7. Age at last birthday 8. If registered with the US Employment Service, number of Registration Card 9. Signature of the person filling out the form. 10. Social Security Number Hope this helps and if you still want to see what the, "Abbreviated Numident," will show you I will dig out my one copy and send you the information. Just let me know. Regards, Nancy Ann Faulkner ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237