Thanks, Bev. I have worked a long time tracking my Kennedys, McClennys, Garners, Sparks, Carrs, Johnsons, Pelhams, Grants, Doziers, Warrens, Rushings, Lipscombs and others. Drew a name out of a little box on my desk and it was Kirby this time so here I am trying to figure out if they got here before or after the Mayflower. Sometimes I think all my early ancestors were in the Lost Colony. Rex -----Original Message----- From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 10:44 AM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY Rex! Your explainations are AWESOME! We have missed you all these years - glad you have joined us now! My Latin is non-existant but I did find this in "What Did They Mean By That? - A Dictionary of Historical Terms for Genealogists" by Paul Drake, J>D> published by Heritage Books. "et ux., et uxor" (Lat) and wife; and husband" e.g., "The deed was to Jane Smith, et uxor, hence even though the husband's name did not appear, the researcher knew that Jane was then married." Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: RE: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY Date: 9/6/2003 11:09:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:rex@tyler.net">rex@tyler.net</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Fairly common in older legal documents: "et ux" - and wife, sometime with actual name included "et vir" - and husband and again sometime with actual name included "et al" - and others. Usually first time all names are stated then later in same document sometimes only shown as "Harvey, et al" (for example). More recently et ux and et vir have mostly been replaced with actual words "and wife" or "and husband". "Et al" is still used where appropriate and/or acceptable in the context of the document. For example, you may find a deed in 1914 from A, B, C, and D to E. Later in 1919, a deed from E to F when referring to the 1914 transaction might refer to the parties named in the 1914 deed as A, et al to E. A word of caution: In 1921 you find a lawsuit styled C vs. F (and/or perhaps some of the others) claiming an interest in the property. When you look at C's petition, you discover that he is claiming (1) he didn't sign the deed or (2) someone signed his name who was not authorized to do so or (3) another possibility, F is claiming a greater interest in the property than C (and/or the others) conveyed and F is wrongfully excluding them from the use and enjoyment of C's remaining interest in the property. I won't do here but I can outline for you many fact situations that give rise to these land title disputes, many of which involve heirs of deceased ancestors. Perhaps more than you wanted to know but sometimes the first deed you encounter doesn't tell the whole story. Rex -----Original Message----- From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:41 PM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY Can you tell us how it was used? Give us the exact quote, please. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY Date: 9/5/2003 10:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:DEBnLEX@aol.com">DEBnLEX@aol.com</A> Reply-to: HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) IN DOING MY RESEARCH, I NOTICED A DESCENDENT'S NAME AS BEING 'UX' HARVEY INSTEAD OF JUST 'HARVEY' DOES 'UX' HAVE A CERTAIN MEANING? THANKS, DEBBIE ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I seem to have the same problem. I have yet to be able to cross the big pond and find my English roots. Hope ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Kirby" <rex@tyler.net> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY > Thanks, Bev. I have worked a long time tracking my Kennedys, > McClennys, Garners, Sparks, Carrs, Johnsons, Pelhams, Grants, > Doziers, Warrens, Rushings, Lipscombs and others. Drew a name > out of a little box on my desk and it was Kirby this time so here I am > trying to figure out if they got here before or after the Mayflower. > Sometimes I think all my early ancestors were in the Lost Colony. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 10:44 AM > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY > > Rex! Your explainations are AWESOME! We have missed you all these years - > glad you have joined us now! > > My Latin is non-existant but I did find this in "What Did They Mean By That? > - A Dictionary of Historical Terms for Genealogists" by Paul Drake, J>D> > published by Heritage Books. > > "et ux., et uxor" (Lat) and wife; and husband" e.g., "The deed was to Jane > Smith, et uxor, hence even though the husband's name did not appear, the > researcher knew that Jane was then married." > > Bev > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: RE: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY > Date: 9/6/2003 11:09:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:rex@tyler.net">rex@tyler.net</A> > Reply-to: <A > HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > Fairly common in older legal documents: > "et ux" - and wife, sometime with actual name included > "et vir" - and husband and again sometime with actual name included > "et al" - and others. Usually first time all names are stated then > later in same document sometimes only shown as > "Harvey, et al" (for example). > More recently et ux and et vir have mostly been replaced with actual words > "and wife" or "and husband". "Et al" is still used where appropriate > and/or acceptable in the context of the document. For example, you may > find a deed in 1914 from A, B, C, and D to E. Later in 1919, a deed from > E to F when referring to the 1914 transaction might refer to the parties > named in the 1914 deed as A, et al to E. > > A word of caution: In 1921 you find a lawsuit styled C vs. F (and/or > perhaps > some of the others) claiming an interest in the property. When you look at > C's petition, you discover that he is claiming (1) he didn't sign the deed > or > (2) someone signed his name who was not authorized to do so or (3) another > possibility, F is claiming a greater interest in the property than C (and/or > the > others) conveyed and F is wrongfully excluding them from the use and > enjoyment of C's remaining interest in the property. > > I won't do here but I can outline for you many fact situations that give > rise > to these land title disputes, many of which involve heirs of deceased > ancestors. > > Perhaps more than you wanted to know but sometimes the first deed you > encounter doesn't tell the whole story. > > Rex > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ms2001@aol.com [mailto:Ms2001@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:41 PM > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY > > Can you tell us how it was used? Give us the exact quote, please. > > Bev > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [VAROOTS] UX HARVEY > Date: 9/5/2003 10:11:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:DEBnLEX@aol.com">DEBnLEX@aol.com</A> > Reply-to: HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > To: <A HREF="mailto:VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com">VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > IN DOING MY RESEARCH, I NOTICED A DESCENDENT'S NAME AS BEING 'UX' HARVEY > INSTEAD OF JUST 'HARVEY' DOES 'UX' HAVE A CERTAIN MEANING? > THANKS, > DEBBIE > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >