Here are the VA patents visible on line in photocopies of the original, thus open to you and more complete and accurate than are Nugent's Abstracts, where there are many errors and misinterpretations. You can search VA Land Office Patents by name of ancestor from the bottom of this page if you do not know the Vol. and page numbers. Paul http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/

Thank you so very much for this Paul ,I am using this for sure. Linda Rogers Paul Drake <pauldrake@charter.net> wrote: Here are the VA patents visible on line in photocopies of the original, thus open to you and more complete and accurate than are Nugent's Abstracts, where there are many errors and misinterpretations. You can search VA Land Office Patents by name of ancestor from the bottom of this page if you do not know the Vol. and page numbers. Paul http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Bev and Paul, Thank you both for the information and the web site... Now for a couple of questions... Bev, you mentioned land patent to Lt. Richard Popeley "for the transportation of 25 persons including Thomas Kirbye" and then Kirbye was assigned the land of Thomas Symons ...who received the land for the transportation of 9 persons on Nov 25, 1637." Correct me if I am wrong but would "transportation" mean bringing folks over from ? by ship to America? Am I to infer that Thomas Kirbye was a passenger on broad Popeley's ship and he could have been a "freeman, slave or indentured servant"? I assume further that Lt. Popeley did this sometime before June 10, 1635 perhaps as far back as two years or more. Is there anyway of knowing when Lt Popeley transported these 25 individuals. How would I find the name of the ship and the list of those 25 individuals and the classification of Kirbye as a passenger? As to the assignment of land to Kirbye in 1642 which had earlier been patented to Symons for transporting 9 people on Nov 25, 1637...Would that mean that Kirbye, if an indentured servant on Lt. Popeley's ship, was no longer indentured by 1642 which then enabled him to own land? I couldn't help but notice that 1642 minus 7 equals 1635. Would that suggest that Kirbye got here in 1635 as an indentured servant, served his seven years and then was able to own land in his own name by 1642? Can you refer me to any website or article discussing how a person became "un-indentured" so to speak? Who kept up with who was and who wasn't indentured? Were there any papers, certificates or whatever issued by any governmental agency? In other words, how would anyone know when an indentured servant was no longer indentured? I am somewhat lost on this little "ship" and will appreciate any help either or you or anyone else can provide that will light my way to shore... Thanks, Rex Kirby -----Original Message----- From: Paul Drake [mailto:pauldrake@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:28 PM To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] HULETTS IN VA Here are the VA patents visible on line in photocopies of the original, thus open to you and more complete and accurate than are Nugent's Abstracts, where there are many errors and misinterpretations. You can search VA Land Office Patents by name of ancestor from the bottom of this page if you do not know the Vol. and page numbers. Paul http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Rex, Don't know if you have this information, but thought I would send it to just in case. Hope Stanly all kerby family info from william and mary quarterly vol 14 no 3 page 154-158 and from "A History of Poquoson, Virginia" by Thomas Vincent Watkins.... THOMAS KERBY DIED 1 JUNE 1668. HIS WILL WAS MADE 6 MARCH 1668, A MONTH BEFORE THE RENNOVATION OF HIS HOUSE AND FOUR MONTHS BEFORE HIS DEATH. I GIVE TO MY SON ROBERT MY WHOLE SEAT OF LAND. IN CASE HE DEPART THIS LIFE IN HIS MINORITY LEAVING NO ISSUE AND MY WIFE MARY THEN SURVIVING HIM, THE LAND TO BE FOR THE ONLY USE AND BEHOOF OF MY SAID WIFE, WHO IS MOTHER OF MY SON.....WITT HENRY FREEMAN, WILLIAM MERRY, ROBER SHELSTON. PROBATE OF THE WILL WAS SECURED BY MARY KERBY THE RELICT AND EXECUTRIX AT A COURT 24 JUNE 1668. THE TONE OF THE WILL SOUNDS LIKE THOMAS KERBY HAD BEEN MARRIED BEFORE AND THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUS ISSUE; HAD ROBERT BEEN THE ONLY SON, THE LAW OF PRIMOGENITURE WOULD HAVE SECURED ROBERT'S TITLE TO THE LAND. PROVISION WAS MADE IN THE WILL THAT THERE WOULD BE NO INTERFERENCE FROM OTHER POSSIBLE HEIRS. THOMAS KERBY WAS LIVING IN CHARLES PARISH, YORK COUNTY, AS EARLY AS 1645. HE DIED JUNE 20, 1668. HIS WILL MENTIONS ONLY ONE SON ROBERT, WHOM HE DESIRES TO BE TAUGHT READING AND WRITING. HE MARRIED MARY , WHO DIED AND WAS BURIED FEB 8, 1686. The Thomas Kirby plantation "butted" upon Football Quarter Creek and is the land on Bunting's Lane. Thomas Curson patented land on the west side of Football Quarter Creek. It was located on a branch called "Key OaK". This land descended to his grandson, Thomas Kirby, who was also grandson to Thomas Kirby mentioned above.............. THE 200 ACRE PATENT FOR LAND ON FOOTBALL QUARTER CREEK WAS EXCHANGED FOR A JOINT GRANT WITH THOMAS KERBY FOR 350 ACRES IN THE MOCKJACK BAY AREA ACROSS THE YORK RIVER. THIS JOINT PATENT OF MOORE AND KERBY IS MISSING BUT ON 10 OCTOBER 1642, THIS PATENT WAS ASSIGNED TO THOMAS SYMMONS. THE HEADRIGHTS FOR THIS JOINT PATENT WERE JOHN EDDEN, PETER BAYERS, ELLIN AUDREY (FIRST WIFE OF THOMAS KERBY), GILBERT REYNOLDS. WILLIAM RICHARDS, AND BARBARY CHAPMAN. THE LAST THREE OF THESE NAMES ARE THE SAME AS FOUND IN THE JOSEPH MOORE GRANT. THE OTHER THEREE NAMES ARE THE HEADRIGHTS OWNED BY KIRBY. THIS MEANS THAT JOSEPH MOORE SACRIFICED HIS 200 ACRE GRANT ON FOOTBALL QUARTER FOR A JOINT OWNERSHIP WITH KIRBY IN THE MOCKJACK BAY AREA. THIS ASSIGNMENT OF THIS LAND TO THOMAS SYMMONS WAS AN EXCHANGE OF LAND BETWEEN THOMAS SYMMONS AND THOMAS KERBY. IT APPEARS ALSO THAT JOSEPH MOORE WAS DECEASED AT THE TIME THE TRANSFER OF LAND BETWEEN SYMMONS AND KIRBY WAS MADE. THE FIRST PATENT OF THOMAS SYMMONS IS MENTIONED IN A PATENT TO HENRY FREEMAN. THIS FIRST SYMMONS GRANT WAS ISSUED ON 11 FEBRUARY 1635. THE SECOND PATENT WHICH IS A RENEWAL OF THE FIRST IS DATED 23 MAY 1637. 50 ACRES BUTTING UPON A CREEK NEAR ADJOINING LAND OF HUMPHRY LOYD, AND 50 ACRES NEAR LAND OF THOMAS RAY, BOUNDED ON THE NORTHEAST WITH A SEDGIE CREEK AND ON THE SOUTHEAST WITH A PYNER SWAMP. DUE FOR TRANSPORTAION OF HIS WIFE ALICE ROBINS AND A SERVANT NAMED RICHARD KEY. THE THIRD PATENT DATED, 25 NOVEMBER 1637. TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRENENTS SHALL COME, I SIR JOHN HARVEY, KNT, DOE WITH THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCILL OF STATE ACCORDINGLY GIVE AND GRAUNT UNTO THOMAS SYMMONS, 450 ACRES OF LAND SITUATE, LYING AND BEING IN THE COUNTY OF CHARLES RIVER, BUTTING UPON FOOTEBALL QUARTER CREEK SOUTH, RUNNING PARALLEL TO A BRANCH OF SAID CREEK NEAR NORTHWEST UNTIL IT MEETS WITH THE PALNTAION OF SAID THOMAS SYMMONS, THE SOUTHWEST SIDE BOUNDED WITH THE LANDS OF WILLIAM FREEMAN, THE WEST SIDE BOUNDED WITH THE LAND OF ANDREW HUNTINGTON AND WHAT THIS GIFT OF LAND SHOULD WANT OF 450 ACRES IS TO BEE SUPPLIED BETWEEN THE PLANTATIONS OF GILBERT SYMMONS AND THE SAID THOMAS SYMMONS, RUNNING HALF A MILE INTO THE WOODS. THE LAND, 450 ACRES BEING DUE UNTO HIM THE SAID THOMAS SYMMONS BY AND FOR THE TRANSPORTAION AT HIS OWN EXPENSE AND CHARGES OF NINE PERSONS INTO THIS COLONY WHOSE NAMES ARE IN THE RECORDS MENTIONED UNDER THIS PATENT. JOHN CARTER, GEORRGE HADERWILL, ROBERT ROBINS, DOROTHY GLOVER, RICHARD TOMPSON, JAMES LISTER, RICHARD HINTON, SOMON CULY, WILLIAM HADEWELL. THIS PATENT WAS ASSIGNED TO THOMAS KIRBY, PLANTER, ON 28 DECEMBER 1642. WITNESSES; PETER RANSOME AND EDWARD BEREMAN. THIS WAS AN EXCHANGE OF LAND BETWEEN THOMAS SYMMONS AND THOMAS KIRBY. THE SYMMONS LAND ON FOOTBALL QUATER CREEK WAS TRADED FOR LAND IN THE MOCKJACK BAY AREA ACROSS THE YORK RIVER TAHT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY PATENTED BY KIRBY AND JOSEPH MOORE JOINTLY. THOMAS SYMMONS WAS DECEASED BEFOR 26 OF MARCH 1646, FOR A COURT OF THAT DATE IN YORK COUTY, A SUIT BETWEEN FRANCIS WILLIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF THOMAS SYMMONS DECEASED, PLAINTIFF AND THOMAS KIRBY CONCERNING CATTLE WAS PRESENTED. THOMAS SYMMONS IS SAID TO BE DECEASED IN A PATENT OF THOMAS PURIFOY AND MRS TEMPERANCE PEPPETT IN MOCKJACK BAY, 15 SEPTEMBER 1652. THIS MEANS THAT BY 1646 THOMAS KIRBY HAD BECOME ESTABLISHED ON HIS PLANTATION ON FOOTBALL QUARTER CREEK AND THAT THOMAS SYMMONS HAD MOVED MOST OF HIS POSSESSIONS TO MOCKJACK BAY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Kirby" <rex@tyler.net> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:53 PM Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] Cavaliers and Pioneers > Bev and Paul, > > Thank you both for the information and the web site... > Now for a couple of questions... > > Bev, you mentioned land patent to Lt. Richard Popeley > "for the transportation of 25 persons including Thomas > Kirbye" and then Kirbye was assigned the land of Thomas > Symons ...who received the land for the transportation of > 9 persons on Nov 25, 1637." > > Correct me if I am wrong but would "transportation" mean > bringing folks over from ? by ship to America? Am I to > infer that Thomas Kirbye was a passenger on broad > Popeley's ship and he could have been a "freeman, slave > or indentured servant"? I assume further that Lt. Popeley > did this sometime before June 10, 1635 perhaps as far > back as two years or more. Is there anyway of knowing > when Lt Popeley transported these 25 individuals. How > would I find the name of the ship and the list of those > 25 individuals and the classification of Kirbye as a > passenger? > > As to the assignment of land to Kirbye in 1642 which had > earlier been patented to Symons for transporting 9 people > on Nov 25, 1637...Would that mean that Kirbye, if an > indentured servant on Lt. Popeley's ship, was no longer > indentured by 1642 which then enabled him to own land? > I couldn't help but notice that 1642 minus 7 equals 1635. > Would that suggest that Kirbye got here in 1635 as an > indentured servant, served his seven years and then was > able to own land in his own name by 1642? > > Can you refer me to any website or article discussing > how a person became "un-indentured" so to speak? > Who kept up with who was and who wasn't indentured? > Were there any papers, certificates or whatever issued > by any governmental agency? In other words, how would > anyone know when an indentured servant was no longer > indentured? > > I am somewhat lost on this little "ship" and will appreciate > any help either or you or anyone else can provide that > will light my way to shore... > > Thanks, Rex Kirby > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Drake [mailto:pauldrake@charter.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:28 PM > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] HULETTS IN VA > > Here are the VA patents visible on line in photocopies of the original, thus > open to you and more complete and accurate than are Nugent's Abstracts, > where there are many errors and misinterpretations. > > You can search VA Land Office Patents by name of ancestor from the bottom of > this page if you do not know the Vol. and page numbers. Paul > http://eagle.vsla.edu/lonn/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >