On pg. 187, Brenner gives the sources where he found the information: "Bailyn, New England Merchants, pp. 19, 26n, 35; Andrews, Colonial Period I: 398." Hope you're more successful in your quest than I have been. ;-) ~Virginia rex@tyler.net wrote: << Thank you for sharing this. Many years ago I sat down and talked to a Ms. Lucille Pegram in Gaffney, SC. Her dad was Robert Kirby who was a brother to one of my gr grandfathers back up the line. She told me that family legend was that several of the Kirbys were fur traders -even in Indian territory - and one operated a trading post way outside the original 13 colonies - but this is the first time I have actually seen a written account of a Kirby trading in furs. But there it is in black and white... thanks, Rex >>