Though miniscule in numbers of migrants compared to Cumberland Gap, don't forget the Crab Orchard Gap from Old Southwest Point, or the same Gap from Asheville thence west on the trail that became US 70. Paul Have you checked out Wm. Dollarhide's paperback book, "Map Guide to American Migration Routes 1735-1815?" (Published by Heritage Quest, 1997.) The only early route from VA. to TN. was through the Cumberland Gap. Many people, exhausted from the terrible trip, remained close to the route in TN. or KY. for a few years before moving on. So checking out the counties along the route for ancestors often produces results. The Gap route was used long after 1815, BTW. On my genealogy web page is a map showing the route from VA. through TN. to KY. Elizabeth My Baker Page: http://www.wiu.edu/users/mfeak/ debra crowell wrote: > Paul what sound advice & very true! Now can you help answer this question > for me? > I have some ancesters that were from Va. originally but never stayed there > and moved south to Tennessee & elsewhere...now the question is since I have > exhusted the counties and state to which they moved to and need to go back > into Va. but can't due to the long distance & not knowing where to start..... > with & > not having alot of $$$$s what do you suggest since I have gotten NOWHERE > from Va. county sites... > My biggest brick wall is Albert Hurt b.1804 Va. was married in 1828 > Tn....... > Debra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Drake" <pauldrake@charter.net> > To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA > > > Bev, Erin and all you good people: Genealogy, like politics, is LOCAL. > Dead ends are most often solved in the records and materials to be found in > the counties where the ancestor lived through life. So, where, where, where > is your avenue to leads. Start with the county websites of that ancestor > and see what they have provided there, spend the $10-$12 to join the little > genealogical society at that place, pose queries, and gain their help, all > the while exhausting your other sources. Those people, of all other > strangers, are most likely to have info about your family. To do otherwise > and set yourself adrift in the vast internet ocean hoping for answers is > akin to taking a shot at the woods in the hope of bagging breakfast. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Erin T. Crowe > > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA > > > > > > Bev, > > I have tried the newspapers, but I will be at it again as so many ppl > have > > responded & found my great grandfather & my great great grandfather on > the > > Census for Rockingham Co, VA. Now I have many more names which means > many > > more leads....More detective work. Woo Hoo. > > Thank you so much for taking the time, > > Erin T. Crowe > > > > > > > Try the newspapers for that area. A story like that should have been > > fairly > > > prominent. > > > > > > Bev > > > > > > ========Original Message======== > > > Subj: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA > > > Date: 1/4/2004 3:19:50 PM Eastern Standard Time > > > From: Poetrywaif@comcast.net > > > Reply-to: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > My biggest brickwall is with my own last name. LOL. Not a living > relative > > > exists besides my father. So here is my quandry. My great > grandfather > > was > > > Harry Edward Crowe, (maybe his real first name, maybe not) born in > > Virginia abt > > > 1890. He had a brother (maybe a cousin) Joseph. He and Joseph moved > to > > Ohio > > > and Harry married my great grandmother Emma C. Ahlers b abt 1889. > There > > was a > > > story that he was head of the Ohio numbers racket for the Detroit mob > & > > that he > > > got killed/commited suicide somewhere around 1949. This is told to me > by > > my > > > father, however, I cannot find a single death for him, I have tried > every > > > variation of Harry & have even tried using the name of Edward as a > > possible first > > > name. My father also doesn't know if he really died at that time > because > > he > > > didn't go to a funeral. He was just told that he died and was found > in > > the > > > house. The only place I can find him existing, is on the census' for > 1920 > > & 1930 > > > in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio. "Harry" had two step ! > > > children Leona & Elmer (Ahlers) Crowe, and two biological children > Ralph > > > Edward Crowe & Thelma Crowe. I can find information on Joseph, I have > his > > death > > > record, it shows his parents as being Samuel Crowe & Ida Gardner. > Though > > on > > > the 1900 census they show up in Rockingham County, VA w/Joseph but not > > Harry. > > > Ancestry doesn't let you view this census as a picture, just as the > names > > that > > > appear on there (one by one). The "e" is not present on their name at > this > > > time. I know they are from the same family because of the page, roll, > & > > line > > > numbers given for the individual. If any of this sounds familiar to > > anyone, I > > > would greatly appreciate the help. My father thinks they might have > been > > from > > > the Roanoke/Rockingham areas of Virginia as he did go to visit > relatives > > there > > > often. > > > Thank you kindly, > > > Erin T. Crowe > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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