Try the newspapers for that area. A story like that should have been fairly prominent. Bev ========Original Message======== Subj: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA Date: 1/4/2004 3:19:50 PM Eastern Standard Time From: Poetrywaif@comcast.net Reply-to: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Dear Listers, My biggest brickwall is with my own last name. LOL. Not a living relative exists besides my father. So here is my quandry. My great grandfather was Harry Edward Crowe, (maybe his real first name, maybe not) born in Virginia abt 1890. He had a brother (maybe a cousin) Joseph. He and Joseph moved to Ohio and Harry married my great grandmother Emma C. Ahlers b abt 1889. There was a story that he was head of the Ohio numbers racket for the Detroit mob & that he got killed/commited suicide somewhere around 1949. This is told to me by my father, however, I cannot find a single death for him, I have tried every variation of Harry & have even tried using the name of Edward as a possible first name. My father also doesn't know if he really died at that time because he didn't go to a funeral. He was just told that he died and was found in the house. The only place I can find him existing, is on the census' for 1920 & 1930 in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio. "Harry" had two step ! children Leona & Elmer (Ahlers) Crowe, and two biological children Ralph Edward Crowe & Thelma Crowe. I can find information on Joseph, I have his death record, it shows his parents as being Samuel Crowe & Ida Gardner. Though on the 1900 census they show up in Rockingham County, VA w/Joseph but not Harry. Ancestry doesn't let you view this census as a picture, just as the names that appear on there (one by one). The "e" is not present on their name at this time. I know they are from the same family because of the page, roll, & line numbers given for the individual. If any of this sounds familiar to anyone, I would greatly appreciate the help. My father thinks they might have been from the Roanoke/Rockingham areas of Virginia as he did go to visit relatives there often. Thank you kindly, Erin T. Crowe ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Bev, I have tried the newspapers, but I will be at it again as so many ppl have responded & found my great grandfather & my great great grandfather on the Census for Rockingham Co, VA. Now I have many more names which means many more leads....More detective work. Woo Hoo. Thank you so much for taking the time, Erin T. Crowe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ms2001@aol.com> To: <VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA > Try the newspapers for that area. A story like that should have been fairly > prominent. > > Bev > > ========Original Message======== > Subj: [VAROOTS] Harry Crow(e) born abt 1890 VA > Date: 1/4/2004 3:19:50 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: Poetrywaif@comcast.net > Reply-to: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > To: VAROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > Dear Listers, > My biggest brickwall is with my own last name. LOL. Not a living relative > exists besides my father. So here is my quandry. My great grandfather was > Harry Edward Crowe, (maybe his real first name, maybe not) born in Virginia abt > 1890. He had a brother (maybe a cousin) Joseph. He and Joseph moved to Ohio > and Harry married my great grandmother Emma C. Ahlers b abt 1889. There was a > story that he was head of the Ohio numbers racket for the Detroit mob & that he > got killed/commited suicide somewhere around 1949. This is told to me by my > father, however, I cannot find a single death for him, I have tried every > variation of Harry & have even tried using the name of Edward as a possible first > name. My father also doesn't know if he really died at that time because he > didn't go to a funeral. He was just told that he died and was found in the > house. The only place I can find him existing, is on the census' for 1920 & 1930 > in Dayton, Montgomery Co, Ohio. "Harry" had two step ! > children Leona & Elmer (Ahlers) Crowe, and two biological children Ralph > Edward Crowe & Thelma Crowe. I can find information on Joseph, I have his death > record, it shows his parents as being Samuel Crowe & Ida Gardner. Though on > the 1900 census they show up in Rockingham County, VA w/Joseph but not Harry. > Ancestry doesn't let you view this census as a picture, just as the names that > appear on there (one by one). The "e" is not present on their name at this > time. I know they are from the same family because of the page, roll, & line > numbers given for the individual. If any of this sounds familiar to anyone, I > would greatly appreciate the help. My father thinks they might have been from > the Roanoke/Rockingham areas of Virginia as he did go to visit relatives there > often. > Thank you kindly, > Erin T. Crowe > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >