yes Christine that is true ... the one you mentioned found here http://tinyurl.com/ seems to work the same as the one I mentioned found here http://simurl.com/ .... and there are probably a few others out there too ... I have used both of these off and on :) I still make the suggestion of one of these to be booked marked for future usage ... it will surely alleviate the pain of people posting "I can't access that link" .... usually :) and or others who think it's something they did themselves ... and not even question it :/ missing out on perhaps a valuable tid-bit of info, that they might not see again else where :) Ken - hdpth-DNA like a smile ... genealogical kindness causes a chain reaction :) > [Original Message] > From: cristy <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 1/14/2006 10:16:42 AM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Re: Borden Grant and Beverly Manor Map ... > > tinyurl will do that same as that also, a program to make the links smaller. > > Christine << snip >> [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You. a thought to ponder ... Acts 1:8 a message to the outer most parts ...