Greetings Folk's - I know I most likely will not be able to locate the exact spot my hdpth's resided on ... but on my fast approaching genealogical trip through VA, NC and SC [Nov. 6th to the 18th] ... I would like to get some snap shots of the general area :) does anyone here, know from these abbreviated transcription ... where "in general" these locations might be found by todays landmarks :) from the Isle of Wight Co., VA Deeds 1750-1782, by W. L. Hopkins, I came across the following deed abstracts ... both indicated to be in the IoW deed book 8, 1747-1752 pg. 160 - 1 Aug. 1748... John Woodwers and wife, Margaret Woodwers, of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 100 acres on the north side of main Blackwater Swamp adjoining the line between Isle of Wight and Nansemond County and John Butler (being land granted John Woodwerd on 9 Jul 1724). Wit: Issac Fleming, William Murfree and James (X) Holland. Rec: 13 Oct 1748 John Woodwerd pg. 399 - 26 Nov. 1750... James Mackleney of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 150 acres on Beaverdam Branch adjoining James Johnson (being part of a patent granted Arthur Allen and Edward Felwell and Robert Horning on 29 Nov. 1679). Wit: Abraham (X) Johnson Jr., Nathaniel (X) Johnson and William Moore. Rec: 6 Jun 1751 James Mackleney I am wondering if there is a way to tell where the "general area" of these two parcels might be located in the present day ? yes I realize or at least I believe there might not be an exact location that we could point to ... that is why I said "general area" :) not sure if the following deeds dovetail into this, and or give additional info ... both of these indicated to be in the IoW deed book 12, 1765-1772, mention Henry Hedgpeth as witness in one, and then within the description of what appears to be part of the same parcel that he was a witness of in the earlier transaction of ... pg. 187 - 30 Nar 1767... John Butler to Moses Butler... 200 acres in the upper parish adjoining Baker, Carr, the County line and the Mill Branch (being the land devised to the said Moses Butler). Wit: Daniel Holland, Mason (X) Johnson and Henry (X) Hedgpeth Rec: 5 Nov 1767 John (X) Butler pg. 307 - 22 Feb 1769... Moses Butler and wife, Priscillah Butler, to Frederick Frazier... 100 acres in the upper parish adjoining the county line, Henry Hedgpeth and the Mills Branch (being the land bought by Moses Butler in 1767). Wit: Joseph Holland, Stephen Darden Jr., Daniel Holland and Lazarus Whitehead. Rec: 3 Aug 1769 Moses Butler I will toss this one in also, as it appears to be an additional reference to Moses' transactions :) pg. 189 - 4 Nov 1767... William Butler of the upper parish of Nansemond County to Frederick Frasur... 100 acres in the upper parish adjoining Joseph Butler and the Marsh Branch (being part of a patent for 600 acres granted James Butler, John Butler and Peter Butler and this part was devised to said William Butler by the will of his father, John Butler, decd.). Wit: Moses Butler, Mason Johnson and Henry Hedgpeth. Rec: 5 Nov 1767 William (X) Butler thanks in advance for any helpful hints on location this general area :) Ken Hedgpeth - Altadena -> Pasadena, CA -USA [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You.

You quite likely have named enough general boundaries in both counties to come quite close to those ancient homesites. There are a number of ways to accomplish what you wish to do. The easiest would be to FIRST gain a GOOD map of the counties, and then visit the county surveyor's offices in, first, IofW (in the town of IofW), and then in Edgecombe (at Tarboro). Ask those folks to direct you to the approximate area. After you have learned something of the locations, you will want to gain the USGS 7.5 minute Quadrangles of those areas. Were I you, I would call ahead in order to know that on the day you propose to visit, the surveyors will be there and have a few minutes to assist you, since in smaller counties most of such people are also otherwise employed. Good luck Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenny Hedgpeth To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:46 PM Subject: [VAROOTS] help locating area ... Greetings Folk's - I know I most likely will not be able to locate the exact spot my hdpth's resided on ... but on my fast approaching genealogical trip through VA, NC and SC [Nov. 6th to the 18th] ... I would like to get some snap shots of the general area :) does anyone here, know from these abbreviated transcription ... where "in general" these locations might be found by todays landmarks :) from the Isle of Wight Co., VA Deeds 1750-1782, by W. L. Hopkins, I came across the following deed abstracts ... both indicated to be in the IoW deed book 8, 1747-1752 pg. 160 - 1 Aug. 1748... John Woodwers and wife, Margaret Woodwers, of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 100 acres on the north side of main Blackwater Swamp adjoining the line between Isle of Wight and Nansemond County and John Butler (being land granted John Woodwerd on 9 Jul 1724). Wit: Issac Fleming, William Murfree and James (X) Holland. Rec: 13 Oct 1748 John Woodwerd pg. 399 - 26 Nov. 1750... James Mackleney of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 150 acres on Beaverdam Branch adjoining James Johnson (being part of a patent granted Arthur Allen and Edward Felwell and Robert Horning on 29 Nov. 1679). Wit: Abraham (X) Johnson Jr., Nathaniel (X) Johnson and William Moore. Rec: 6 Jun 1751 James Mackleney I am wondering if there is a way to tell where the "general area" of these two parcels might be located in the present day ? yes I realize or at least I believe there might not be an exact location that we could point to ... that is why I said "general area" :) not sure if the following deeds dovetail into this, and or give additional info ... both of these indicated to be in the IoW deed book 12, 1765-1772, mention Henry Hedgpeth as witness in one, and then within the description of what appears to be part of the same parcel that he was a witness of in the earlier transaction of ... pg. 187 - 30 Nar 1767... John Butler to Moses Butler... 200 acres in the upper parish adjoining Baker, Carr, the County line and the Mill Branch (being the land devised to the said Moses Butler). Wit: Daniel Holland, Mason (X) Johnson and Henry (X) Hedgpeth Rec: 5 Nov 1767 John (X) Butler pg. 307 - 22 Feb 1769... Moses Butler and wife, Priscillah Butler, to Frederick Frazier... 100 acres in the upper parish adjoining the county line, Henry Hedgpeth and the Mills Branch (being the land bought by Moses Butler in 1767). Wit: Joseph Holland, Stephen Darden Jr., Daniel Holland and Lazarus Whitehead. Rec: 3 Aug 1769 Moses Butler I will toss this one in also, as it appears to be an additional reference to Moses' transactions :) pg. 189 - 4 Nov 1767... William Butler of the upper parish of Nansemond County to Frederick Frasur... 100 acres in the upper parish adjoining Joseph Butler and the Marsh Branch (being part of a patent for 600 acres granted James Butler, John Butler and Peter Butler and this part was devised to said William Butler by the will of his father, John Butler, decd.). Wit: Moses Butler, Mason Johnson and Henry Hedgpeth. Rec: 5 Nov 1767 William (X) Butler thanks in advance for any helpful hints on location this general area :) Ken Hedgpeth - Altadena -> Pasadena, CA -USA [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/2005

Ken: Here is what I did. First, go to http://historical-county.newberry.org/website/Virginia/viewer.htm type in 1748, compare it to 2005, tells you that IoW at that time was west of Nansamond County and covered present day IoW, plus present day Southampton and Franklin (IC), with, it looks like, Nansamond being renamed Suffolk. Blackwater River divides current Southampton Co. from IoW, running from the Suffolk/Southampton line to Surry County. Much of it appears to be a swamp. But, of course, in 1748, it would have all been in IoW. So, the "north side of main Blackwater Swamp adjoining the line between Isle of Wight and Nansamond County" would put the site probably somewhere around present day Franklin, which is close to the then Nansamond line. There are some "industrial ponds" at the juncture of the counties, but plenty of other swamps around as well. "150 acres on Beaverdam Branch" -- interestingly, there is a Beaverdam Swamp just east of Franklin. There was a "Beaverdam Church" in the GNIS: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=122:1:2924986233901329782 So, my best guess is that the area around Franklin is your best bet. I'd stay away from the "industrial ponds" <G>, but I'd say any of the back roads out 58/258 towards Carswell would do it for you. I went through this adventure finding some pretty well sited land in Buckingham County, and frankly, it all looks pretty much the same, once you get out of town <G>. By the way, I highly recommend what Kenny is doing. Some of these areas are so "gone back", with an occasional patch of cleared land, that they probably resemble what our ancestors had to deal with. The trees may be only 60 inches in diameter, instead of 90, but the underbrush and such are pretty overwhelming. I had a bit of a time trying to connect these to the Library of Virginia patents, but did find a few you might be interested in: http://ajax.lva.lib.va.us/F/QU78V9MVYAV793BDV23TYVRRCSA3HKU937SFXECKLGD3V6YFU2-00432?func=file&file_name=f ind-b Title Hedgpah, John, Sr. Publication 29 October 1696. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Note Location: Nansemond County. Description: 450 acres on the westward side of Faustus Cabin branch comes out of the back swamp of Sumerton Creek. Source: Land Office Patents No. 9, 1697-1706 (v.1 & 2 p.1-742), p. 50 (Reel 9). Part of the index to the recorded copies of patents for land issued by the Secretary of the Colony serving as the colonial Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. Title Hedgpath, Henry. Publication 2 August 1736. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Note Location: Nansemond County. Grantee(s): Hedgpath, Henry and Holland, James. Description: 146 acres beg.g at a pine near the head of Corowak Swamp. Source: Land Office Patents No. 17, 1735-1738, p. 148 (Reel 15). Title Hedgpath, John, Jr. Publication 16 June 1714. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Patents 1-42, reels 1-41. Note Location: Nansemond County. Description: 443 acres on the west side of a swamp known by the name of Mills's Swamp. Source: Land Office Patents No. 10, 1710-1719, p. 158 (Reel 10). Title Johnson, Joseph. Publication 3 June 1790. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Grants A-Z, 1-124, reels 42-190; Virginia State Land Office. Grants 125- , reels 369-. Related See also the following surname(s): Johnston, Jonson. Note Location: Isle of Wight County. Description: 66 acres adjoining the land of Britain Johnson, Treasy Frasier, Henry Hedgbeth &c. Source: Land Office Grants No. 22, 1789-1791, p. 264 (Reel 88). Good luck, Kenny! (BTW, if you have Altadena and Pasadena, why isn't South Pasadena called Bajadena <G>?) Pat (in Tucson) Nosco vestri atavi est ingredior intellego vestri ego (To become acquainted with your ancestors is to begin to comprehend your self) >> where "in general" these locations might be found by todays landmarks :) from the Isle of Wight Co., VA Deeds 1750-1782, by W. L. Hopkins, I came across the following deed abstracts ... both indicated to be in the IoW deed book 8, 1747-1752 pg. 160 - 1 Aug. 1748... John Woodwers and wife, Margaret Woodwers, of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 100 acres on the north side of main Blackwater Swamp adjoining the line between Isle of Wight and Nansemond County and John Butler (being land granted John Woodwerd on 9 Jul 1724). Wit: Issac Fleming, William Murfree and James (X) Holland. Rec: 13 Oct 1748 John Woodwerd pg. 399 - 26 Nov. 1750... James Mackleney of Edgcomb Co. in NC to Henry Hedgpath of Isle of Wight... 150 acres on Beaverdam Branch adjoining James Johnson (being part of a patent granted Arthur Allen and Edward Felwell and Robert Horning on 29 Nov. 1679). Wit: Abraham (X) Johnson Jr., Nathaniel (X) Johnson and William Moore. Rec: 6 Jun 1751 James Mackleney I am wondering if there is a way to tell where the "general area" of these two parcels might be located in the present day ? yes I realize or at least I believe there might not be an exact location that we could point to ... that is why I said "general area" :) Ken Hedgpeth - Altadena -> Pasadena, CA -USA