Hi, Pat. You may have to search and run down ALL the Sapps who appear here anywhere at the same time that your line first shows up. Sometimes brick walls are so strong that one needs to jump over the wall, go into the years before the wall, and run down EVERY appearance of that surname to a point where those distant folks are either positively eliminated or you learn that those appearances justify further study. Remember: Though there will be exceptions found, you may be reasonably sure that the surname you have was that of the man's parents and they lived some WHERE. Paul Drake JD Genealogist & Author <www.DrakesBooks.com> 931-484-9129 ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Mims To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? My Sapp family came in the 1700's I believe late 1700's but I can't find much on them earlier than 1799 in VA. It can really be frustrating when you know they came on a ship, unless they were extremely strong swimmers, and there is no record of them. Of course knowing a first name might also be helpful. (big grin) Pat Mims > Hi all and thanks Doug. > I am surprised by the number of descendants who had ancestors in Virginia. > For those of us who's ancestors came to the Virginia Colony around 1700, > or perhaps even earlier, records repositories having been burned twice > find records extant to settlement times extreamly hard to come by. My > Kelly settled in King and Queen County so if any of you run across any > kind of records for that county before 1750, please let me know where they > are. I am from Alaska and now live in Oregon. > Have a great holiday all. > Don Kelly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 AM > Subject: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > >>I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is >>fact >> can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from childhood, >> have >> been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. >> The >> beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to >> history of >> your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. >> I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs >> 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from Mass. >> But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our >> other, >> our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As usual >> this >> Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have done >> for >> 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. >> Genealogy is a Blast!! >> Thanks and Happy Holidays >> Doug >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005

Well, that is what keeps me going. He was supposed to have come over with Lord Baltimore. I really do not know this for sure. I've heard he was from Hamburg, Germany or from the Netherlands or England. I will just keep on looking until I go blind or I find him. hehe Pat ----- Original Message ----- > Hi, Pat. You may have to search and run down ALL the Sapps who appear here > anywhere at the same time that your line first shows up. > > Sometimes brick walls are so strong that one needs to jump over the wall, > go into the years before the wall, and run down EVERY appearance of that > surname to a point where those distant folks are either positively > eliminated or you learn that those appearances justify further study. > > Remember: Though there will be exceptions found, you may be reasonably > sure that the surname you have was that of the man's parents and they > lived some WHERE. > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Mims > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > My Sapp family came in the 1700's I believe late 1700's but I can't find > much on them earlier than 1799 in VA. It can really be frustrating when > you > know they came on a ship, unless they were extremely strong swimmers, and > there is no record of them. Of course knowing a first name might also be > helpful. (big grin) > Pat Mims > > > > > Hi all and thanks Doug. > > I am surprised by the number of descendants who had ancestors in > Virginia. > > For those of us who's ancestors came to the Virginia Colony around > 1700, > > or perhaps even earlier, records repositories having been burned twice > > find records extant to settlement times extreamly hard to come by. My > > Kelly settled in King and Queen County so if any of you run across any > > kind of records for that county before 1750, please let me know where > they > > are. I am from Alaska and now live in Oregon. > > Have a great holiday all. > > Don Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 AM > > Subject: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > > > >>I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is > >>fact > >> can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from > childhood, > >> have > >> been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. > >> The > >> beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to > >> history of > >> your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. > >> I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs > >> 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from > Mass. > >> But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our > >> other, > >> our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As > usual > >> this > >> Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have > done > >> for > >> 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. > >> Genealogy is a Blast!! > >> Thanks and Happy Holidays > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: > 11/25/2005 > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Pat You might want to post a query on the list that covers the Delmarva Peninsula. There are, and have been since English came to Delaware, or the lower three counties of PA, or the Jersies, depending on who or what you read, many families named Sapp. They tend, here in DE, to be in the Kent Co area, around what is now Dover, but were found in the other two counties as well. Many people from this area, on the Delmarva Peninsula, often went down the Chesapeake Bay to VA. It's not a long trip, to say the least. Where I live in DE, I"m 7 miles from the MD border, and then perhaps 4 miles to the Chesapeake Bay. I have many ancestors that went back and forth between MD and VA, in the 1600's. They ended up staying in VA by the later 1600's, but worked that headright system fairly well. I have no connection to the Sapp's, other than knowing they were/are here, and knowing where some are in cemeteries, only by wandering past. Actually, some are buried right outside the Delaware State Museum, which was once a church, and enclosed by a huge cemetery in Dover DE. Just figured you might have to check other areas besides VA. They may not have come directly from whatever country of origin to VA, but migrated, early, from DE, MD or eastern shore VA (they're there too) to mainland VA. Happy Hunting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Drake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > Hi, Pat. You may have to search and run down ALL the Sapps who appear here > anywhere at the same time that your line first shows up. > > Sometimes brick walls are so strong that one needs to jump over the wall, > go into the years before the wall, and run down EVERY appearance of that > surname to a point where those distant folks are either positively > eliminated or you learn that those appearances justify further study. > > Remember: Though there will be exceptions found, you may be reasonably > sure that the surname you have was that of the man's parents and they > lived some WHERE. > > Paul Drake JD > Genealogist & Author > <www.DrakesBooks.com> > 931-484-9129 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat Mims > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > My Sapp family came in the 1700's I believe late 1700's but I can't find > much on them earlier than 1799 in VA. It can really be frustrating when > you > know they came on a ship, unless they were extremely strong swimmers, and > there is no record of them. Of course knowing a first name might also be > helpful. (big grin) > Pat Mims > > > > > Hi all and thanks Doug. > > I am surprised by the number of descendants who had ancestors in > Virginia. > > For those of us who's ancestors came to the Virginia Colony around > 1700, > > or perhaps even earlier, records repositories having been burned twice > > find records extant to settlement times extreamly hard to come by. My > > Kelly settled in King and Queen County so if any of you run across any > > kind of records for that county before 1750, please let me know where > they > > are. I am from Alaska and now live in Oregon. > > Have a great holiday all. > > Don Kelly > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 7:24 AM > > Subject: [VAROOTS] Thanksgiving Started When? > > > > > >>I love this list. It is amazing how one statement of what we think is > >>fact > >> can bring out so many additional pieces of history. We, from > childhood, > >> have > >> been taught "the facts" about things as other people want them to be. > >> The > >> beauty of genealogy which translates, if you having fun doing it, to > >> history of > >> your family and where it lived is learning how things really were. > >> I must admit that being a native Virginian I do chuckle about 1619 vs > >> 1621--especially since our daughter is engaged to a young lad from > Mass. > >> But..at the end of the day what truly counts is how we enjoy each our > >> other, > >> our family and our church. History is History--no more no less. As > usual > >> this > >> Virginian will spend part of Christmas in Va with family, as we have > done > >> for > >> 42 years since the Air Force brought me to Florida. > >> Genealogy is a Blast!! > >> Thanks and Happy Holidays > >> Doug > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: > 11/25/2005 > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Just as another jumping off place - I went to school with a Robert Sapp in Fairfax County, VA in the 1940's. Knowing how families migrate that might be another area to look. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com