I had an old Olin Mills picture done years ago and it was actually in the newspaper back then as it was for a local beauty pagent which I guess means he did have copyright to it. When I tried to call and gave them the dates, they would not even look for it unless I spent a certain amount of money, (quite a bit) actually was not too polite to me ;(, I had the exact date they were in the paper and knew withing weeks or days when they were taken. He told mem they were filed by date but I guess up in his attic or something. I have not called back yet. cia, cristy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Hedgpeth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy > well anyone who has had photographs done by Olin Mills had better read the > "fine print" on the contract ... although I personally have never > heard/read about them going after anyone ... it is written in a way that > they do hold the copyright on the "proofs" :( which is what a lot of > people I had known, ended up buying "the proofs", and when they tried to > get copies/reprints done else where, more cheaper [less expensively] ... > some to most were not too successful usually and or had trouble finding > someone welling to make copies/enlargements ... > > I had experienced trouble once even trying to get copies made of a photo > that was on an old postcard several years ago, even after "much searching" > to discover that the photographer of the original was dead, and his > company/business hadn't been in existence for years ... > > now with the advances in technology, making equipment, quality and prices > within the reach of many, most are likely to take matters into their own > hands ... and a good number of amateurs can do just as good as the > professionals :) not say it's right or wrong ... but the temptation is > there :) > > Ken - > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Paul Drake <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Date: 12/11/2005 1:21:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy >> >> I would bet a lot (were I a gambler) that Olin Mills has not copyrighted > any portrait of their customers for MANY years, if ever. When we did that > article, I checked the case reports and records of the copyright office > rather widely and found not a single such copyright of other than their > own > people. >> >> The copyright law does NOT provide a blanket protection for such as > future photos or even future writings. They have protection for their > logo > and nothing more; we can not gain protection for books we may one day > write. >> >> Paul Drake JD >> Genealogist & Author >> <www.DrakesBooks.com> >> 931-484-9129 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Kenny Hedgpeth >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:00 PM >> Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy >> >> >> >> I have always wondered about those Olin Mills photos that numerious > people >> put on their personal web sites :) >> >> obviously IF I was to post one of those, [which I haven't yet] but I > sure >> as heck would crop the picture so as to not show the companies name ... >> which does indicate their copyright ... >> >> Ken - >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >