I can't remember who it was that talked about how much money the photographers have to spend on equipment, training, ect. but it is true. this is how they make their living and for people to try to go around them really isn't fair. The exception, to me would be old pictures where the photographer is either out of business or dead. I don't think it should be a problem to copy these. I scan them into my picture program and then I print them out. I have given these to family members. The photographers around here charge from $800.00 up to do a wedding. My husband is an a photographer (not professional, but very good) and he takes pictures at weddings or any other occasion for people we know as a gift. they usually hire a photographer to make the brides picture and he will do all the candid shots. He also takes all the pictures for our granddaughter's school and gives them to everyone, no charge. He really enjoys doing it and it is a gift most people love to get. Thanks, Pat >I had an old Olin Mills picture done years ago and it was actually in the >newspaper back then as it was for a local beauty pagent which I guess means >he did have copyright to it. When I tried to call and gave them the dates, >they would not even look for it unless I spent a certain amount of money, >(quite a bit) actually was not too polite to me ;(, I had the exact date >they were in the paper and knew withing weeks or days when they were taken. > He told mem they were filed by date but I guess up in his attic or > something. I have not called back yet. > > cia, > cristy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny Hedgpeth" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:28 AM > Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy > > >> well anyone who has had photographs done by Olin Mills had better read >> the >> "fine print" on the contract ... although I personally have never >> heard/read about them going after anyone ... it is written in a way that >> they do hold the copyright on the "proofs" :( which is what a lot of >> people I had known, ended up buying "the proofs", and when they tried to >> get copies/reprints done else where, more cheaper [less expensively] ... >> some to most were not too successful usually and or had trouble finding >> someone welling to make copies/enlargements ... >> >> I had experienced trouble once even trying to get copies made of a photo >> that was on an old postcard several years ago, even after "much >> searching" >> to discover that the photographer of the original was dead, and his >> company/business hadn't been in existence for years ... >> >> now with the advances in technology, making equipment, quality and prices >> within the reach of many, most are likely to take matters into their own >> hands ... and a good number of amateurs can do just as good as the >> professionals :) not say it's right or wrong ... but the temptation is >> there :) >> >> Ken - >> >> >>> [Original Message] >>> From: Paul Drake <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Date: 12/11/2005 1:21:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy >>> >>> I would bet a lot (were I a gambler) that Olin Mills has not copyrighted >> any portrait of their customers for MANY years, if ever. When we did that >> article, I checked the case reports and records of the copyright office >> rather widely and found not a single such copyright of other than their >> own >> people. >>> >>> The copyright law does NOT provide a blanket protection for such as >> future photos or even future writings. They have protection for their >> logo >> and nothing more; we can not gain protection for books we may one day >> write. >>> >>> Paul Drake JD >>> Genealogist & Author >>> <www.DrakesBooks.com> >>> 931-484-9129 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Kenny Hedgpeth >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:00 PM >>> Subject: RE: [VAROOTS] Fw: copyrights, "Fair Use", and genealogy >>> >>> >>> >>> I have always wondered about those Olin Mills photos that numerious >> people >>> put on their personal web sites :) >>> >>> obviously IF I was to post one of those, [which I haven't yet] but I >> sure >>> as heck would crop the picture so as to not show the companies name >>> ... >>> which does indicate their copyright ... >>> >>> Ken - >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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