I saw and read this article myself, but do not understand how you can trace DNA back generations, when the legal system has not been doing it for that many years themselves.??!! The article turned my stomach, and I do not approve of doing genealogy this way, personally I thought that the individuals thoughts, actions and behavior were rather on both the illegal side, and rather foolish, self-centered and filled self pride. However, then again I do not understand seeking her families genealogy this way. I enjoy doing it the old way, although I often want to pull my hair out when I fine that I have to start over again. A hobby is a hobby, and I have become a family historian because of my families desire to know their genealogical heritage. I also have found that while doing all four of my grandparents genealogy that I have learned more about American History and World History than I ever dreamed existed. I would not change my methods of search, hunt, and discovery in almost any way. I have met through Cyberspace so many of my cousins and other relatives that I would not have met otherwise, and this alone is a great treasure to me. Part of my family stayed in the northern states and my part of paternal side came south, although they later went back north, then part of them returned to Texas and other states close by. To me genealogy is much more than just names, dates and places. It is the getting a somewhat idea of what my ancestors suffered in helping to build this wonderful country and came to while America while it was still just colonies. They have fought and some have died to defend this country that I am proud to call home (although I have now discovered more of the good, bad and ugly about it), but I will still stand up and fight to keep it as it is and hopefully help improve it for my grandchildren and their grandchildren who will sooner or later take their stand as our nation's future leaders. I would not have gained a new insight and pride in this country or my family if I had not searched out my heritage with blood, sweat and tears. I have used the Internet for a starting place, then went to the Archives to try and prove or disprove what I found on the WWW. I think that many of the old ways of doing things are much better than the new and so called improved methods, but that is simply my opinion. However, this is a free country filled with a variety of people and we have the right to seek our own ways and methods as long as they are legal. We have the right to criticize, but we do not have the right to condemn others for their legal methods. As far as the article mentioned, it is my opinion that the individual became a stalker for their own needs and wants, which is to me illegal. However, that is my opinion and that does not make the other person wrong and me correct. If the person they were stalking decides they want to take action against them that is their right too. For me progress is not progress or legal when it is done improperly, but that is simply my opinion. Now lets get back to the business at hand, and discover our genealogy, and hopefully meet more of our previously unknown relatives. I also wish to state that I have made new friends while searching my genealogy, an while I may not meet them personally, they are very precious to me, and would like to meet them. Kenny Hedgpeth <hdpth@earthlink.net> wrote: not sure I understand your comment especially when it looks like a reply to something that was posted on a different List and/or Group ? ? ? ? but then again this could be a typical response from a few who don't know the whole story ... nor how newspapers are run / managed ... I got to see this same article in the Fresno Bee [CA news paper] and there are parts in there, that the NY paper cut out of the original article ... The California newspaper did not even use the same title "header" for this article :) so the moral is to only believe half of what you read ... and then question at least half of the rest :) Ken - hdpth-DNA > [Original Message] > From: Erin T. Crowe > To: > Date: 4/6/2007 8:36:36 PM > Subject: [VAROOTS] NYT article that makes genealogists look like predators... > > If it were me, I would be a tad upset if they had painted me in that light. > Sincerely, > > Erin T. 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I couldn't find the article from the link so what follows might not connect with what was in the article. I just want to say that I've been doing genalogy for 35 years the old way and I agree with everything that's been said regarding the joys and hassles of doing it that way. I also think the DNA opportunities are exciting. A distant relative of my husband's has, through the internet, connected with enough others of the same surname, both in America and in Ireland, to get a good idea of the origins of the family in Ireland. In many cases, when the paper trail has died out, this can be the only way to try to "get across the pond." I had my mtDNA done just for the fun of it. I learned that there were 1) there were no connections between me and anyone in their databaseno surprises thereand 2) my matriarchal line has been in northern Europe for a l-o-n-g time. I'm hoping to get one of my relatives and a couple of other friends of the same surname to do the DNA test to see if they might be related. The friends are also genealogists, so I would definitely not be "stalking strangers."
mstulken@wi.net wrote: >I couldn't find the article from the link so what follows might not >connect with what was in the article. > > Apparently the article was posted for only one day. I tried the next and it was gone. Does someone have it who then could summarize it for this site. THANKS! E. Kaspar > > >